Maybe they get in but they need a lot to happen to get in.
a truly worthy Team shouldn't need all these things to happen to rise to the top. if the Buckeyes would have played well in their two losses, games that by all account they could have and should have won, the conversation would be that they should be #1 right now. I would be arguing that as well.
it happens every year, Teams sit around and wait for another Team's loss to help put them in the top four. the easiest solution is to play well and put yourself there. that's what Alabama does year after year and it drives us crazy. when OSU won the Championship a few years ago they did it by playing extremely well, no one else helped them.
that's just not the case this year and as much as it pains me, they look to me like a four loss Team.
I do remember the committee saying OSU was not even considered. I feel they were one of the four best teams but they failed to prove it on the field. The committee seems reluctant to place two teams from the same conference in the playoffs unless it is a slam dunk. I can see two SEC teams in if they simply pick the four best teams. However the best in the SEC are going to devour each other. Only Alabama could lose a game and get in. Why not have the Champions of the five power conferences all in and three at large teams? Again I say OSU is not one of the four best even if they win out. Of course # 9 would complain they deserve a chance at Alabama. Team #8 might wish they were #9.
There are some huge games this week and next week. There is no telling who will be in the Top 4 as of today.
In the SEC Auburn seems to have the Big Mo working in their favor. All week I've heard Bama is going down. I will say this is not the best team Bama has put out lately but they are still pretty good. Still haven't made my pick, it'll come Saturday.
As far as OSU, they are very talented at every position. They face the same problem we had years ago. When you become an elite program like OSU you get the best shot from every team you play every week. You can not afford a let down because you will get beat. If OSU played Iowa today they would probably beat 'em pretty bad. The head coach has to have them ready every week, that's his job.
I also think that Oklahoma is the best team right now. In 2 weeks who knows, but if old "Faker" Mayfield gets injured they're history. What's up with Faker and his head coach and all that fake crying? You will not see Saban, Meyer or Harbaugh do that. Well, you might if they lost a top recruit......
Happy Thanksgiving to all except Awbern and their fans.
Happy Thanksgiving to all the college football thread partipants. Enjoy your day
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Nice try. However, the committee already proved two years ago, that previous years has no barring on the current season, when they left out a 12-1 defending national champion.
I know many like to pile on Garnett but this is a valid point. OSU was the defending Champion who at 11-1 was left out. They lost one game on a last play of the game field goal. Bad timing as the loss was at the end of the year rather than the beginning. OSU was as good or better than any team in the playoffs and I feel could have won it all. They were 12-1 after demolishing The Irish in their bowl game.
Yep and in fairness they finished behind Iowa and MSU that year who were both 12-1 after the Big Ten Championship. Impossible to put them in. It wouldn't have mattered if they lost in week 4 or week 10. A one loss MSU beat OSU that year at OSU. MSU beat an undefeated Iowa team in a great championship game. There was no scenerio in which to place OSU ahead of either Iowa or MSU. None. Zero. Never.
Ohio State only finished 7th that year in the final CFB committes final polling after the regular season. They were placed behind a 10-2 Stanford. They played an anemic schedule that year and had a few lackluster performances. No doubt they had the talent to win it all that year. They just didn't deserve to be in the top 4. Those are the points anf facts he doesn't want to accept.
mark
Um, the mistake the committee made was putting Oklahoma in over ohio state. So there should've been two big ten teams in the playoffs. With all that NFL talent the buckeyes had that year, they would've crushed Oklahoma and probably alabama as well.
After the conference championship games, the composite computer had them ranked number four...ahead of Oklahoma who lost to a bad Texas team. They most certainly deserved a spot.
They made no such mistake. If that were the case it was a mistake putting in Ohio State last year as they were crushed by Clemson. You don't know until you play the games.
Iowa deserved the bid over OSU and they didn't go either. Their only loss was to MSU on pretty much the last play of the game. MSU beat OSU.
The committee had OSU 7th. They could have had them 6th but that's it. OSU Wasn't even seriously considered that year as they were third fiddle in the Big Ten that year.
Of course after the bowl games are played the deck can be shuffled but you don't know until after you play the games. That's why they play the games. Ohio State would be undefeated this year based on being favorites before the games are played. However we know how that turned out.
Happy Thanksgiving
mark
You obviously know nothing about college football. But then again your a michigan fan lol. You're used to losing and mediocrity. Everyone knows that the buckeyes were the best team in the big ten that year. Their defense was giving up seven points less a game then the team the year before when they won the national championship. Iowa lost their last two games, and they didn't have to play the buckeyes or michigan that year. and michigan state lost to a bad Nebraska team. OSU lost on a last second field goal. A few days earlier,zeke Elliott was in the hospital. The buckeyes won 25 out of 26 games. The committee is made up of only 13 people. They make mistakes. Not every committee member has anything to do with football. Condaliza rice?
If they went by the bcs system the year before, they would've been in the playoffs. The computer had them in the top four when the committee made their decision.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Nice try. However, the committee already proved two years ago, that previous years has no barring on the current season, when they left out a 12-1 defending national champion.
I know many like to pile on Garnett but this is a valid point. OSU was the defending Champion who at 11-1 was left out. They lost one game on a last play of the game field goal. Bad timing as the loss was at the end of the year rather than the beginning. OSU was as good or better than any team in the playoffs and I feel could have won it all. They were 12-1 after demolishing The Irish in their bowl game.
Yep and in fairness they finished behind Iowa and MSU that year who were both 12-1 after the Big Ten Championship. Impossible to put them in. It wouldn't have mattered if they lost in week 4 or week 10. A one loss MSU beat OSU that year at OSU. MSU beat an undefeated Iowa team in a great championship game. There was no scenerio in which to place OSU ahead of either Iowa or MSU. None. Zero. Never.
Ohio State only finished 7th that year in the final CFB committes final polling after the regular season. They were placed behind a 10-2 Stanford. They played an anemic schedule that year and had a few lackluster performances. No doubt they had the talent to win it all that year. They just didn't deserve to be in the top 4. Those are the points anf facts he doesn't want to accept.
mark
Um, the mistake the committee made was putting Oklahoma in over ohio state. So there should've been two big ten teams in the playoffs. With all that NFL talent the buckeyes had that year, they would've crushed Oklahoma and probably alabama as well.
After the conference championship games, the composite computer had them ranked number four...ahead of Oklahoma who lost to a bad Texas team. They most certainly deserved a spot.
They made no such mistake. If that were the case it was a mistake putting in Ohio State last year as they were crushed by Clemson. You don't know until you play the games.
Iowa deserved the bid over OSU and they didn't go either. Their only loss was to MSU on pretty much the last play of the game. MSU beat OSU.
The committee had OSU 7th. They could have had them 6th but that's it. OSU Wasn't even seriously considered that year as they were third fiddle in the Big Ten that year.
Of course after the bowl games are played the deck can be shuffled but you don't know until after you play the games. That's why they play the games. Ohio State would be undefeated this year based on being favorites before the games are played. However we know how that turned out.
Happy Thanksgiving
mark
You obviously know nothing about college football. But then again your a michigan fan lol. You're used to losing and mediocrity. Everyone knows that the buckeyes were the best team in the big ten that year. Their defense was giving up seven points less a game then the team the year before when they won the national championship. Iowa lost their last two games, and they didn't have to play the buckeyes or michigan that year. and michigan state lost to a bad Nebraska team. OSU lost on a last second field goal. A few days earlier,zeke Elliott was in the hospital. The buckeyes won 25 out of 26 games. The committee is made up of only 13 people. They make mistakes. Not every committee member has anything to do with football. Condaliza rice?
If they went by the bcs system the year before, they would've been in the playoffs. The computer had them in the top four when the committee made their decision.
You're a piece of work. Michigan State beat OSU at OSU and Iowa's only loss was to MSU and somehow you think OSU deserved to go instead of one of them. Only on Planet Garnettstyle does that make sense. Games are won and lost on the field not on paper or your mind. Iowa was 12-1 before the bowl games as was MSU. That was the resume the committee had to consider. Ohio State wasn't even on the radar. Third fiddle.
Hearing you make excuses, whine, cry and grovel over this never grows old.
mark
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Nice try. However, the committee already proved two years ago, that previous years has no barring on the current season, when they left out a 12-1 defending national champion.
I know many like to pile on Garnett but this is a valid point. OSU was the defending Champion who at 11-1 was left out. They lost one game on a last play of the game field goal. Bad timing as the loss was at the end of the year rather than the beginning. OSU was as good or better than any team in the playoffs and I feel could have won it all. They were 12-1 after demolishing The Irish in their bowl game.
Yep and in fairness they finished behind Iowa and MSU that year who were both 12-1 after the Big Ten Championship. Impossible to put them in. It wouldn't have mattered if they lost in week 4 or week 10. A one loss MSU beat OSU that year at OSU. MSU beat an undefeated Iowa team in a great championship game. There was no scenerio in which to place OSU ahead of either Iowa or MSU. None. Zero. Never.
Ohio State only finished 7th that year in the final CFB committes final polling after the regular season. They were placed behind a 10-2 Stanford. They played an anemic schedule that year and had a few lackluster performances. No doubt they had the talent to win it all that year. They just didn't deserve to be in the top 4. Those are the points anf facts he doesn't want to accept.
mark
Um, the mistake the committee made was putting Oklahoma in over ohio state. So there should've been two big ten teams in the playoffs. With all that NFL talent the buckeyes had that year, they would've crushed Oklahoma and probably alabama as well.
After the conference championship games, the composite computer had them ranked number four...ahead of Oklahoma who lost to a bad Texas team. They most certainly deserved a spot.
They made no such mistake. If that were the case it was a mistake putting in Ohio State last year as they were crushed by Clemson. You don't know until you play the games.
Iowa deserved the bid over OSU and they didn't go either. Their only loss was to MSU on pretty much the last play of the game. MSU beat OSU.
The committee had OSU 7th. They could have had them 6th but that's it. OSU Wasn't even seriously considered that year as they were third fiddle in the Big Ten that year.
Of course after the bowl games are played the deck can be shuffled but you don't know until after you play the games. That's why they play the games. Ohio State would be undefeated this year based on being favorites before the games are played. However we know how that turned out.
Happy Thanksgiving
mark
You obviously know nothing about college football. But then again your a michigan fan lol. You're used to losing and mediocrity. Everyone knows that the buckeyes were the best team in the big ten that year. Their defense was giving up seven points less a game then the team the year before when they won the national championship. Iowa lost their last two games, and they didn't have to play the buckeyes or michigan that year. and michigan state lost to a bad Nebraska team. OSU lost on a last second field goal. A few days earlier,zeke Elliott was in the hospital. The buckeyes won 25 out of 26 games. The committee is made up of only 13 people. They make mistakes. Not every committee member has anything to do with football. Condaliza rice?
If they went by the bcs system the year before, they would've been in the playoffs. The computer had them in the top four when the committee made their decision.
You're a piece of work. Michigan State beat OSU at OSU and Iowa's only loss was to MSU and somehow you think OSU deserved to go instead of one of them.
I think you read what you want to read because that's NOT what I said.
ONCE AGAIN. Ohio State was one of the four best teams that year. They deserved to be in over Oklahoma. THE COMPUTER had it right. The committee did not.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Nice try. However, the committee already proved two years ago, that previous years has no barring on the current season, when they left out a 12-1 defending national champion.
I know many like to pile on Garnett but this is a valid point. OSU was the defending Champion who at 11-1 was left out. They lost one game on a last play of the game field goal. Bad timing as the loss was at the end of the year rather than the beginning. OSU was as good or better than any team in the playoffs and I feel could have won it all. They were 12-1 after demolishing The Irish in their bowl game.
Yep and in fairness they finished behind Iowa and MSU that year who were both 12-1 after the Big Ten Championship. Impossible to put them in. It wouldn't have mattered if they lost in week 4 or week 10. A one loss MSU beat OSU that year at OSU. MSU beat an undefeated Iowa team in a great championship game. There was no scenerio in which to place OSU ahead of either Iowa or MSU. None. Zero. Never.
Ohio State only finished 7th that year in the final CFB committes final polling after the regular season. They were placed behind a 10-2 Stanford. They played an anemic schedule that year and had a few lackluster performances. No doubt they had the talent to win it all that year. They just didn't deserve to be in the top 4. Those are the points anf facts he doesn't want to accept.
mark
Um, the mistake the committee made was putting Oklahoma in over ohio state. So there should've been two big ten teams in the playoffs. With all that NFL talent the buckeyes had that year, they would've crushed Oklahoma and probably alabama as well.
After the conference championship games, the composite computer had them ranked number four...ahead of Oklahoma who lost to a bad Texas team. They most certainly deserved a spot.
They made no such mistake. If that were the case it was a mistake putting in Ohio State last year as they were crushed by Clemson. You don't know until you play the games.
Iowa deserved the bid over OSU and they didn't go either. Their only loss was to MSU on pretty much the last play of the game. MSU beat OSU.
The committee had OSU 7th. They could have had them 6th but that's it. OSU Wasn't even seriously considered that year as they were third fiddle in the Big Ten that year.
Of course after the bowl games are played the deck can be shuffled but you don't know until after you play the games. That's why they play the games. Ohio State would be undefeated this year based on being favorites before the games are played. However we know how that turned out.
Happy Thanksgiving
mark
You obviously know nothing about college football. But then again your a michigan fan lol. You're used to losing and mediocrity. Everyone knows that the buckeyes were the best team in the big ten that year. Their defense was giving up seven points less a game then the team the year before when they won the national championship. Iowa lost their last two games, and they didn't have to play the buckeyes or michigan that year. and michigan state lost to a bad Nebraska team. OSU lost on a last second field goal. A few days earlier,zeke Elliott was in the hospital. The buckeyes won 25 out of 26 games. The committee is made up of only 13 people. They make mistakes. Not every committee member has anything to do with football. Condaliza rice?
If they went by the bcs system the year before, they would've been in the playoffs. The computer had them in the top four when the committee made their decision.
You're a piece of work. Michigan State beat OSU at OSU and Iowa's only loss was to MSU and somehow you think OSU deserved to go instead of one of them.
I think you read what you want to read because that's NOT what I said. THE COMPUTER had it right. The committee did not.
Ha ha ha, and who makes the final call, the computer or the committee?
@garnettstyle said:
Mississippi state is one of alabama's 2 quality wins.
Ole Miss Lol.
You do know that the Miss State QB dislocated his ankle in the first quarter and didn't play the rest of the game.
BTW...I'd rather have our 2 quality wins than your 2 quality ass whoopings.
Once again you have proven you don't know jack squat about college football
At least Ohio State didn't lose to a 5-6 team LOL. Any excuse you want to make, its a BAD LOSS. If Alabama loses to Auburn, I don't expect them to make the playoffs.
Ya I watched the game. Ole miss spanked them. The score was a lot closer than what the outcome appeared.
You were giving Bama props for knocking out FSU's QB. You have to do the same for ole miss, or it's a double standard.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
You were giving Bama props for knocking out FSU's QB. You have to do the same for ole miss, or it's a double standard.
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Apples and oranges.
The FSU QB went down late in the game when we had them whipped.
The MSU QB went down in the 1st quarter when the game was in doubt.
Garnett, I hope OSU and Bama get to play this year. Heck, I was pulling for y'all last year against Clemson...oh well.
You were giving Bama props for knocking out FSU's QB. You have to do the same for ole miss, or it's a double standard.
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Apples and oranges.
The FSU QB went down late in the game when we had them whipped.
Yes apples and oranges. This is football. Injuries are part of the game. FSU was ranked. Ole Miss was not. Bad loss for Miss state, and thus one less quality win for bama.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
@Brick said:
...Why not have the Champions of the five power conferences all in and three at large teams? ...
I realize this is what pro sports does but I just don't like it for college. It could easily be a year where a power 5 conference does not have a worthy team. I think of Pitt in the Fiesta Bowl one year and I think another similar team another year who was horrible but they were automatic to the BCS games. Just this year with the Pac-12 where they do not have one of the 5 best teams... nor one of the 8 best. That would be wrong to put them in the playoff. Creates a bad game. The college football playoff spots are too precious.
it's clear that the way the Championship was awarded 20 years ago was bad, it is clear that the way they do it now is better but still not really satisfying. the trick, the hurdle that any playoff system seems to need to get past is what is the correct number of Teams??
four doesn't seem right and with eight there would be arguments. even with 10 or 16, people would still be mad.
Why not have the Champions of the five power conferences all in and three at large teams? ...
Creates a bad game.
no system will create all good games, that's a fantasy. I think Brick's suggestion is a good one and what keeps coming into my mind. if would force better competition and probably make more fans happy than mad.
Nice try. However, the committee already proved two years ago, that previous years has no barring on the current season, when they left out a 12-1 defending national champion.
I know many like to pile on Garnett but this is a valid point. OSU was the defending Champion who at 11-1 was left out. They lost one game on a last play of the game field goal. Bad timing as the loss was at the end of the year rather than the beginning. OSU was as good or better than any team in the playoffs and I feel could have won it all. They were 12-1 after demolishing The Irish in their bowl game.
Yep and in fairness they finished behind Iowa and MSU that year who were both 12-1 after the Big Ten Championship. Impossible to put them in.
. It wouldn't have mattered if they lost in week 4 or week 10. A one loss MSU beat OSU that year at OSU. MSU beat an undefeated Iowa team in a great championship game. There was no scenerio in which to place OSU ahead of either Iowa or MSU. None. Zero. Never.
Ohio State only finished 7th that year in the final CFB committes final polling after the regular season. They were placed behind a 10-2 Stanford. They played an anemic schedule that year and had a few lackluster performances. No doubt they had the talent to win it all that year. They just didn't deserve to be in the top 4. Those are the points anf facts he doesn't want to accept.
mark
Um, the mistake the committee made was putting Oklahoma in over ohio state. So there should've been two big ten teams in the playoffs. With all that NFL talent the buckeyes had that year, they would've crushed Oklahoma and probably alabama as well.
After the conference championship games, the composite computer had them ranked number four...ahead of Oklahoma who lost to a bad Texas team. They most certainly deserved a spot.
They made no such mistake. If that were the case it was a mistake putting in Ohio State last year as they were crushed by Clemson. You don't know until you play the games.
Iowa deserved the bid over OSU and they didn't go either. Their only loss was to MSU on pretty much the last play of the game. MSU beat OSU.
The committee had OSU 7th. They could have had them 6th but that's it. OSU Wasn't even seriously considered that year as they were third fiddle in the Big Ten that year.
Of course after the bowl games are played the deck can be shuffled but you don't know until after you play the games. That's why they play the games. Ohio State would be undefeated this year based on being favorites before the games are played. However we know how that turned out.
Happy Thanksgiving
mark
You obviously know nothing about college football. But then again your a michigan fan lol. You're used to losing and mediocrity. Everyone knows that the buckeyes were the best team in the big ten that year. Their defense was giving up seven points less a game then the team the year before when they won the national championship. Iowa lost their last two games, and they didn't have to play the buckeyes or michigan that year. and michigan state lost to a bad Nebraska team. OSU lost on a last second field goal. A few days earlier,zeke Elliott was in the hospital. The buckeyes won 25 out of 26 games. The committee is made up of only 13 people. They make mistakes. Not every committee member has anything to do with football. Condaliza rice?
If they went by the bcs system the year before, they would've been in the playoffs. The computer had them in the top four when the committee made their decision.
You're a piece of work. Michigan State beat OSU at OSU and Iowa's only loss was to MSU and somehow you think OSU deserved to go instead of one of them.
I think you read what you want to read because that's NOT what I said.
ONCE AGAIN. Ohio State was one of the four best teams that year. They deserved to be in over Oklahoma. THE COMPUTER had it right. The committee did not.
They where certainly not more deserving. There were other teams more deserving then OSU who also didn't get in. OSU played a weak schedule with some unimpressive wins. When Northern Illinois one of your best quality wins in the regular season you are asking for problems. OSU was #1 all year and were dropped to #3 even though they didn't lose a game up to week ten. After they were beaten by MSU they plummeted.
Michigan State beat OSU at Ohio State and Iowa was undefeated in the regular season and almost beat MSU in the Championship game. So no, everyone certainly didn't think OSU was better or deserved to go unless you think they should have put 3 Big Ten teams in the final 4. Iowa was #5.
OSU certainly had the talent and most OSU fans and supporters will tell you 2015 was a wasted opportunity. But being ranked # 7 prior to the Bowl Games seemed about right all things considered . Even Stanford at 10-2 was ranked higher. That should begin to tell you what many thought about OSU that year.
mark
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You were giving Bama props for knocking out FSU's QB. You have to do the same for ole miss, or it's a double standard.
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Apples and oranges.
The FSU QB went down late in the game when we had them whipped.
Yes apples and oranges. This is football. Injuries are part of the game. FSU was ranked. Ole Miss was not. Bad loss for Miss state, and thus one less quality win for bama.
Says the guy who makes excuses for OSU loss to MSU because of Zeke's tummy ache. And the weather. Almost forget about that. Apparently MSU and OSU played in two different weather systems that day on the very same field.
Mark
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@Bullsitter said:
Miami at Pitt early today. Can Miami function in the cold?
I unfortunately am at work today. But just checked in on the scores and see they are down 17-7 with under two minutes left in the 3rd. Possible huge upset in the making!
You were giving Bama props for knocking out FSU's QB. You have to do the same for ole miss, or it's a double standard.
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Apples and oranges.
The FSU QB went down late in the game when we had them whipped.
Yes apples and oranges. This is football. Injuries are part of the game. FSU was ranked. Ole Miss was not. Bad loss for Miss state, and thus one less quality win for bama.
Says the guy who makes excuses for OSU loss to MSU because of Zeke's tummy ache. And the weather. Almost forget about that. Apparently MSU and OSU played in two different weather systems that day on the very same field.
Mark
I think you need to be more worried about your skunk rats tomorrow, then be worried about arguing with me lol.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
@Bullsitter said:
Miami at Pitt early today. Can Miami function in the cold?
I unfortunately am at work today. But just checked in on the scores and see they are down 17-7 with under two minutes left in the 3rd. Possible huge upset in the making!
Miami looked flat today away from florida. Miami, their QB couldn't hit anything today.
Too bad the bowl games are not played up here in the Midwest. The Big Ten would have a pretty good record. Can you imagine USC playing the rose bowl in Madison or Happy Valley?
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
as much as I'd like to see OSU run the table and get in, the almost as satisfying outcome would be a shellacking at the hands of Meeeechigan --- just to read Mark spoon-feeding garnett.
@keets said:
as much as I'd like to see OSU run the table and get in, the almost as satisfying outcome would be a shellacking at the hands of Meeeechigan --- just to read Mark spoon-feeding garnett.
I knew you were a closet michigan fan lol.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
@keets said:
as much as I'd like to see OSU run the table and get in, the almost as satisfying outcome would be a shellacking at the hands of Meeeechigan --- just to read Mark spoon-feeding garnett.
I don't even need a Michigan win to do that but it's the thought that counts keets! I doubt it will be tomorrow but it would be nice!
In other news Bret Bielema is fired from Arkansas today. He is the biggest duffas I've ever seen coach. He had it made in the shade at Wisconsin but left for greener pastures in the SEC where he was exposed as a horrible game manager. Good for him
mark
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@keets said:
as much as I'd like to see OSU run the table and get in, the almost as satisfying outcome would be a shellacking at the hands of Meeeechigan --- just to read Mark spoon-feeding garnett.
I don't even need a Michigan win to do that but it's the thought that counts keets! I doubt it will be tomorrow but it would be nice!
In other news Bret Bielema is fired from Arkansas today. He is the biggest duffas I've ever seen coach. He had it made in the shade at Wisconsin but left for greener pastures in the SEC where he was exposed as a horrible game manager. Good for him
mark
That is good news. What a worthless clown in bowl games when he was here in Madison. First time I have seen Badger fans happy to see a winning coach leave.
@keets said:
as much as I'd like to see OSU run the table and get in, the almost as satisfying outcome would be a shellacking at the hands of Meeeechigan --- just to read Mark spoon-feeding garnett.
I don't even need a Michigan win to do that but it's the thought that counts keets! I doubt it will be tomorrow but it would be nice!
In other news Bret Bielema is fired from Arkansas today. He is the biggest duffas I've ever seen coach. He had it made in the shade at Wisconsin but left for greener pastures in the SEC where he was exposed as a horrible game manager. Good for him
mark
That is good news. What a worthless clown in bowl games when he was here in Madison. First time I have seen Badger fans happy to see a winning coach leave.
You have a great coach now
mark
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@keets said:
as much as I'd like to see OSU run the table and get in, the almost as satisfying outcome would be a shellacking at the hands of Meeeechigan --- just to read Mark spoon-feeding garnett.
I don't even need a Michigan win to do that but it's the thought that counts keets! I doubt it will be tomorrow but it would be nice!
In other news Bret Bielema is fired from Arkansas today. He is the biggest duffas I've ever seen coach. He had it made in the shade at Wisconsin but left for greener pastures in the SEC where he was exposed as a horrible game manager. Good for him
mark
That is good news. What a worthless clown in bowl games when he was here in Madison. First time I have seen Badger fans happy to see a winning coach leave.
Best thing that ever happened at Wisconsin. Although we did have to go through those two Andersen years which Thank God ended after that 59-0 shellacking at the hands of OSU in the conference championship game. Mark is right re Chryst who I expect will be in Madison for a very long time.
@keets said:
since no one else has mentioned it, lowly 4-7 Pitt stymied Miami and dropped them from the ranks of the unbeaten.
Heather Dinich said Miami's loss benefits Wisconsin the most immediately and potentially Ohio St. the most long term. Rationale is that the ACC will not be getting two teams into the CFP Final 4. Either Clemson or Miami is going to have two losses and one will drop out. Of course Wisconsin must handle their business vs Minnesota and Ohio St. needs to beat Michigan. If that happens it paves the way for a two loss Ohio St. team to get in if they win the B1G Championship game. Wisconsin needs to win that championship game to get in...the committee will not put them in if they finish 12-1 with the sole loss coming in their final game.
Rivalry weekend should be outstanding this year. Does anyone see Clemson vulnerable on the road vs #24 South Carolina? What happens to Alabama if Auburn beats them and they end up 11-1 and not playing in the SEC Championship game? How long will Baker Mayfield be made to sit on the bench for his antics vs Kansas? What an intriguing Saturday!
yes, it should be fun. I have to work till 4:30 and have an obligation that will keep me away from home till about eight. thank goodness for the highlight reels!!!
Day of The Game. Expectations as well as hopes are high. Experience says to throw out the records, anything can and usually does happen. If TTUN prevails they will have had a very successful season. If the Buckeyes win it makes this year not so bad. I do expect the Home Field to be more of an advantage as usual. Let's get it on.
@Brick said:
Day of The Game. Expectations as well as hopes are high. Experience says to throw out the records, anything can and usually does happen. If TTUN prevails they will have had a very successful season. If the Buckeyes win it makes this year not so bad. I do expect the Home Field to be more of an advantage as usual. Let's get it on.
Ha ha, I had to think for a few seconds....TTUN
This morning at the store a guy ask me how to get to Auburn. I said go east until you smell it, then south until you step in it.
None would be better than 60% chance to win both of their
next 2 games.
I would say that's not a lock. For example if Auburn wins out and the rest above happen I think Wisc gets left out. Obviously just a guess on my part and not likely to happen but jus' sayin'.
I would NOT be surprised to see Wisconsin play for the National Championship. And who they play largely depends on the pairings. The Badgers could end up third instead of fourth which I think works to their advantage.
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Chip Kelly to UCLA. As a UCLA fan I am mixed on this. He has had great success during his (only 4) years at Oregon but his ethics are questionable. I suppose if he wins I will excuse his ethical choices. Lol.
at the risk of repeating myself --- Ohio State jut isn't a very good Team. they are currently getting beaten by un-ranked Michigan(please, spare me the but this is THE GAME crap) in pretty much every phase of the game. the one that stings is the passing game: JT Barrett is just not a good, effective passer, I don't think he ever has been. the program will improve through attrition when he leaves after this season.
the Buckeyes may pull this game out, but I see it as loss number three in their four loss season. now, it is entirely within the realm of possibility that they could lose five, yes five, games!!!
Keets... OSU is a very good team-They are just not a great team. And that is a distinction worth making. I know you think Barrett is inconsistent. Others such as myself see him as quite athletic and capable. The difference between good, very good and great has narrowed based on competition and parity. I also think the expectations at OSU are unrealistic as they are at a handful of other schools...Oklahoma, USC, Michigan and LSU just to name 4.
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Maybe they get in but they need a lot to happen to get in.
a truly worthy Team shouldn't need all these things to happen to rise to the top. if the Buckeyes would have played well in their two losses, games that by all account they could have and should have won, the conversation would be that they should be #1 right now. I would be arguing that as well.
it happens every year, Teams sit around and wait for another Team's loss to help put them in the top four. the easiest solution is to play well and put yourself there. that's what Alabama does year after year and it drives us crazy. when OSU won the Championship a few years ago they did it by playing extremely well, no one else helped them.
that's just not the case this year and as much as it pains me, they look to me like a four loss Team.
please, let's talk about someone else!!!
I do remember the committee saying OSU was not even considered. I feel they were one of the four best teams but they failed to prove it on the field. The committee seems reluctant to place two teams from the same conference in the playoffs unless it is a slam dunk. I can see two SEC teams in if they simply pick the four best teams. However the best in the SEC are going to devour each other. Only Alabama could lose a game and get in. Why not have the Champions of the five power conferences all in and three at large teams? Again I say OSU is not one of the four best even if they win out. Of course # 9 would complain they deserve a chance at Alabama. Team #8 might wish they were #9.
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There are some huge games this week and next week. There is no telling who will be in the Top 4 as of today.
In the SEC Auburn seems to have the Big Mo working in their favor. All week I've heard Bama is going down. I will say this is not the best team Bama has put out lately but they are still pretty good. Still haven't made my pick, it'll come Saturday.
As far as OSU, they are very talented at every position. They face the same problem we had years ago. When you become an elite program like OSU you get the best shot from every team you play every week. You can not afford a let down because you will get beat. If OSU played Iowa today they would probably beat 'em pretty bad. The head coach has to have them ready every week, that's his job.
I also think that Oklahoma is the best team right now. In 2 weeks who knows, but if old "Faker" Mayfield gets injured they're history. What's up with Faker and his head coach and all that fake crying? You will not see Saban, Meyer or Harbaugh do that. Well, you might if they lost a top recruit......
Happy Thanksgiving to all except Awbern and their fans.
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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
You obviously know nothing about college football. But then again your a michigan fan lol. You're used to losing and mediocrity. Everyone knows that the buckeyes were the best team in the big ten that year. Their defense was giving up seven points less a game then the team the year before when they won the national championship. Iowa lost their last two games, and they didn't have to play the buckeyes or michigan that year. and michigan state lost to a bad Nebraska team. OSU lost on a last second field goal. A few days earlier,zeke Elliott was in the hospital. The buckeyes won 25 out of 26 games. The committee is made up of only 13 people. They make mistakes. Not every committee member has anything to do with football. Condaliza rice?
If they went by the bcs system the year before, they would've been in the playoffs. The computer had them in the top four when the committee made their decision.
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I think Keet's said it best.
when ifs and buts are candy and nuts everyday will be Christmas!!!
You're a piece of work. Michigan State beat OSU at OSU and Iowa's only loss was to MSU and somehow you think OSU deserved to go instead of one of them. Only on Planet Garnettstyle does that make sense. Games are won and lost on the field not on paper or your mind. Iowa was 12-1 before the bowl games as was MSU. That was the resume the committee had to consider. Ohio State wasn't even on the radar. Third fiddle.
Hearing you make excuses, whine, cry and grovel over this never grows old.
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
I think you read what you want to read because that's NOT what I said.
ONCE AGAIN. Ohio State was one of the four best teams that year. They deserved to be in over Oklahoma. THE COMPUTER had it right. The committee did not.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Mississippi state is one of alabama's 2 quality wins.
Ole Miss Lol.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
Rip to one of the fastest receivers in OSU history. Thanks for the memories.
IT CAN'T BE A TRUE PLAYOFF UNLESS THE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS ARE INCLUDED
You do know that the Miss State QB dislocated his ankle in the first quarter and didn't play the rest of the game.
BTW...I'd rather have our 2 quality wins than your 2 quality ass whoopings.
Once again you have proven you don't know jack squat about college football
Ha ha ha, and who makes the final call, the computer or the committee?
At least Ohio State didn't lose to a 5-6 team LOL. Any excuse you want to make, its a BAD LOSS. If Alabama loses to Auburn, I don't expect them to make the playoffs.
Ya I watched the game. Ole miss spanked them. The score was a lot closer than what the outcome appeared.
You were giving Bama props for knocking out FSU's QB. You have to do the same for ole miss, or it's a double standard.
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Apples and oranges.
The FSU QB went down late in the game when we had them whipped.
The MSU QB went down in the 1st quarter when the game was in doubt.
Garnett, I hope OSU and Bama get to play this year. Heck, I was pulling for y'all last year against Clemson...oh well.
Yes apples and oranges. This is football. Injuries are part of the game. FSU was ranked. Ole Miss was not. Bad loss for Miss state, and thus one less quality win for bama.
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Wow, what can you say........
Miami at Pitt early today. Can Miami function in the cold?
I realize this is what pro sports does but I just don't like it for college. It could easily be a year where a power 5 conference does not have a worthy team. I think of Pitt in the Fiesta Bowl one year and I think another similar team another year who was horrible but they were automatic to the BCS games. Just this year with the Pac-12 where they do not have one of the 5 best teams... nor one of the 8 best. That would be wrong to put them in the playoff. Creates a bad game. The college football playoff spots are too precious.
it's clear that the way the Championship was awarded 20 years ago was bad, it is clear that the way they do it now is better but still not really satisfying. the trick, the hurdle that any playoff system seems to need to get past is what is the correct number of Teams??
four doesn't seem right and with eight there would be arguments. even with 10 or 16, people would still be mad.
Why not have the Champions of the five power conferences all in and three at large teams? ...
Creates a bad game.
no system will create all good games, that's a fantasy. I think Brick's suggestion is a good one and what keeps coming into my mind. if would force better competition and probably make more fans happy than mad.
. It wouldn't have mattered if they lost in week 4 or week 10. A one loss MSU beat OSU that year at OSU. MSU beat an undefeated Iowa team in a great championship game. There was no scenerio in which to place OSU ahead of either Iowa or MSU. None. Zero. Never.
They where certainly not more deserving. There were other teams more deserving then OSU who also didn't get in. OSU played a weak schedule with some unimpressive wins. When Northern Illinois one of your best quality wins in the regular season you are asking for problems. OSU was #1 all year and were dropped to #3 even though they didn't lose a game up to week ten. After they were beaten by MSU they plummeted.
Michigan State beat OSU at Ohio State and Iowa was undefeated in the regular season and almost beat MSU in the Championship game. So no, everyone certainly didn't think OSU was better or deserved to go unless you think they should have put 3 Big Ten teams in the final 4. Iowa was #5.
OSU certainly had the talent and most OSU fans and supporters will tell you 2015 was a wasted opportunity. But being ranked # 7 prior to the Bowl Games seemed about right all things considered . Even Stanford at 10-2 was ranked higher. That should begin to tell you what many thought about OSU that year.
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Says the guy who makes excuses for OSU loss to MSU because of Zeke's tummy ache. And the weather. Almost forget about that. Apparently MSU and OSU played in two different weather systems that day on the very same field.
Mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
I unfortunately am at work today. But just checked in on the scores and see they are down 17-7 with under two minutes left in the 3rd. Possible huge upset in the making!
I think you need to be more worried about your skunk rats tomorrow, then be worried about arguing with me lol.
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Miami looked flat today away from florida. Miami, their QB couldn't hit anything today.
Too bad the bowl games are not played up here in the Midwest. The Big Ten would have a pretty good record. Can you imagine USC playing the rose bowl in Madison or Happy Valley?
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as much as I'd like to see OSU run the table and get in, the almost as satisfying outcome would be a shellacking at the hands of Meeeechigan --- just to read Mark spoon-feeding garnett.
I knew you were a closet michigan fan lol.
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I don't even need a Michigan win to do that but it's the thought that counts keets! I doubt it will be tomorrow but it would be nice!
In other news Bret Bielema is fired from Arkansas today. He is the biggest duffas I've ever seen coach. He had it made in the shade at Wisconsin but left for greener pastures in the SEC where he was exposed as a horrible game manager. Good for him
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
That is good news. What a worthless clown in bowl games when he was here in Madison. First time I have seen Badger fans happy to see a winning coach leave.
You have a great coach now
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Best thing that ever happened at Wisconsin. Although we did have to go through those two Andersen years which Thank God ended after that 59-0 shellacking at the hands of OSU in the conference championship game. Mark is right re Chryst who I expect will be in Madison for a very long time.
since no one else has mentioned it, lowly 4-7 Pitt stymied Miami and dropped them from the ranks of the unbeaten.
Heather Dinich said Miami's loss benefits Wisconsin the most immediately and potentially Ohio St. the most long term. Rationale is that the ACC will not be getting two teams into the CFP Final 4. Either Clemson or Miami is going to have two losses and one will drop out. Of course Wisconsin must handle their business vs Minnesota and Ohio St. needs to beat Michigan. If that happens it paves the way for a two loss Ohio St. team to get in if they win the B1G Championship game. Wisconsin needs to win that championship game to get in...the committee will not put them in if they finish 12-1 with the sole loss coming in their final game.
Rivalry weekend should be outstanding this year. Does anyone see Clemson vulnerable on the road vs #24 South Carolina? What happens to Alabama if Auburn beats them and they end up 11-1 and not playing in the SEC Championship game? How long will Baker Mayfield be made to sit on the bench for his antics vs Kansas? What an intriguing Saturday!
yes, it should be fun. I have to work till 4:30 and have an obligation that will keep me away from home till about eight. thank goodness for the highlight reels!!!
Going to be LOUD, nobody gives us a chance but that's when we play best, as Road Dogs in White.
Bama 31
Barn 27
Go Dawgs!!
Upset of the week.......South Carolina over Clemson
Almost forgot, there is a Bowl Game today.
FSU vs Florida, both 4-6, in the Losers Bowl. Final game for both teams this year, so sad...
Day of The Game. Expectations as well as hopes are high. Experience says to throw out the records, anything can and usually does happen. If TTUN prevails they will have had a very successful season. If the Buckeyes win it makes this year not so bad. I do expect the Home Field to be more of an advantage as usual. Let's get it on.
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Ralph
Ha ha, I had to think for a few seconds....TTUN
This morning at the store a guy ask me how to get to Auburn. I said go east until you smell it, then south until you step in it.
Wisc wins out...in.
Ala wins out...in.
Clemson wins out...in
Oklahoma wins out...in.
Any of them could lose today.
None would be better than 60% chance to win both of their
next 2 games.
I would say that's not a lock. For example if Auburn wins out and the rest above happen I think Wisc gets left out. Obviously just a guess on my part and not likely to happen but jus' sayin'.
I would NOT be surprised to see Wisconsin play for the National Championship. And who they play largely depends on the pairings. The Badgers could end up third instead of fourth which I think works to their advantage.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
Championship Game will be Oklahoma vs. Auburn with Auburn taking home the title.
Chip Kelly to UCLA. As a UCLA fan I am mixed on this. He has had great success during his (only 4) years at Oregon but his ethics are questionable. I suppose if he wins I will excuse his ethical choices. Lol.
I could see that, a rematch from last years bowl game.
at the risk of repeating myself --- Ohio State jut isn't a very good Team. they are currently getting beaten by un-ranked Michigan(please, spare me the but this is THE GAME crap) in pretty much every phase of the game. the one that stings is the passing game: JT Barrett is just not a good, effective passer, I don't think he ever has been. the program will improve through attrition when he leaves after this season.
the Buckeyes may pull this game out, but I see it as loss number three in their four loss season. now, it is entirely within the realm of possibility that they could lose five, yes five, games!!!
OK, Haskins has replaced Barrett, is that because of injury or performance??
Keets... OSU is a very good team-They are just not a great team. And that is a distinction worth making. I know you think Barrett is inconsistent. Others such as myself see him as quite athletic and capable. The difference between good, very good and great has narrowed based on competition and parity. I also think the expectations at OSU are unrealistic as they are at a handful of other schools...Oklahoma, USC, Michigan and LSU just to name 4.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
Different year, same result. Tough road win against a team that doesn't lose very often at home.
Beat whisky
Haskins played great
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