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  • countdouglascountdouglas Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The lack of self awareness for many of the posters in this thread is something to behold.

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @countdouglas said:
    The lack of self awareness for many of the posters in this thread is something to behold.

    The lack of respect for our NA & Flag is a much BIGGER concern!

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 10, 2018 4:51AM

    The are a lot of young people who think that they should be citizens of the world and not citizens of the United States. Therefore disrespecting the flag is okay because it doesn't mean much to them. The fact that Nike has a "brave spokesman" who is "willing to give up everything" is attractive to them, despite the fact the he's picking up millions from the endorsements and not giving up anything. People should remember that Kap was washed up as a pro quarterback when the 49ers dropped him.

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @countdouglas said:
    The lack of self awareness for many of the posters in this thread is something to behold.

    How about lack of respect by the supporters of this dirtbag? Are you aware that this guy cares only about money and his intentions were to be the next MLK type figure because his career was going down the toilet! I assume your ok with his pig socks, him saying he will stand IF given a contract? Or like the other people that support him you don’t want to acknowledge that because it goes against your agenda.

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @countdouglas said:
    The lack of self awareness for many of the posters in this thread is something to behold.

    How about lack of respect by the supporters of this dirtbag? Are you aware that this guy cares only about money and his intentions were to be the next MLK type figure because his career was going down the toilet! I assume your ok with his pig socks, him saying he will stand IF given a contract? Or like the other people that support him you don’t want to acknowledge that because it goes against your agenda.

    Exactly! Totally agree!

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @countdouglas said:
    The lack of self awareness for many of the posters in this thread is something to behold.

    How about lack of respect by the supporters of this dirtbag? Are you aware that this guy cares only about money and his intentions were to be the next MLK type figure because his career was going down the toilet! I assume your ok with his pig socks, him saying he will stand IF given a contract? Or like the other people that support him you don’t want to acknowledge that because it goes against your agenda.

    I as always agree with your premise on this. However you are incorrect in your MLK comment.

    <<< his intentions were to be the next MLK type figure >>>

    MLK called himself a conservative, and I have a lot of admiration for MLK.

    Actually, Kaepernick has worn shirts with Malcolm X pictured as his hero, as he has with Fidel Castro.

    Malcolm X was a 1960's far left radical who encouraged violence. MLK also from the 1960's, never preached violence, and gained fame and respect for comments such as (paraphrase) judge people by the content of their character, not by their skin color - I completely agree with that.

    MLK was a uniter. Malcolm X was a hateful divider, which is one reason why the societal malignancy named Colin Kaepernick adores him so much.

    Those who ignorantly support Colin Kaepernick shouldn't be fooled by him. I think if many out there understood the real reasons behind the kneeling protests, they would run away from their support of Colin Kaepernick.

    Notice that there were very few kneelers the first week in the NFL. Word is getting around as to what Colin Kaepernick is truly all about.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    The are a lot of young people who think that they should be citizens of the world and not citizens of the United States. Therefore disrespecting the flag is okay because it doesn't mean much to them. The fact that Nike has a "brave spokesman" who is "willing to give up everything" is attractive to them, despite the fact the he's picking up millions from the endorsements and not giving up anything. People should remember that Kap was washed up as a pro quarterback when the 49ers dropped him.

    "willing to give up everything"

    Actually that is a totally false narrative. Those such as Colin Kaepernick don't wish to give up anything. They want to take everything...and that is a stone cold fact.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MLK was not a saint by any stretch, do some research. That being said, I was probably wrong I should have said Al Sharpton figure

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 10, 2018 6:25AM

    For the record I do agree 100% with MLk’s main message though. All men should be treated equally and judged by their character

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    MLK was not a saint by any stretch, do some research. That being said, I was probably wrong I should have said Al Sharpton figure

    We all know about MLK and his rendezvous with a lot of women, if that's what you were referring to.

    However I fully supported the naming a holiday after him. He deserved it.

    MLK helped bring our country together, and that is a historical fact...something Colin Kaepernick with his real intentions, has no interest in doing.

  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭
    edited September 10, 2018 7:07AM

    Right now there are four threads in the top 10 that cast current and former black athletes in a negative light:
    * is Colin Kaepernick a jerk?
    * is LeVeon Bell a punk?
    * is Serena Williams a cheat?
    * Derek Jeter is making all American-born players and coaches learn Spanish

    These four threads were started by four different people.

    • is this colorblind?
  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,231 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Shouting louder than the other guy is not the same as winning.

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TNP777 said:
    Right now there are four threads in the top 10 that cast current and former black athletes in a negative light:
    * is Colin Kaepernick a jerk?
    * is LeVeon Bell a punk?
    * is Serena Williams a cheat?

    There is a reason for this if you step back and look. All 3 of these would be legitament questions no matter what the color of the person is.

  • BaltimoreYankeeBaltimoreYankee Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    To the dude who keeps calling him "K-Crap":

    Shouldn't it be "C-Krap"? ;)

    Daniel
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 10, 2018 7:33AM

    @TNP777 said:
    Right now there are four threads in the top 10 that cast current and former black athletes in a negative light:
    * is Colin Kaepernick a jerk?
    * is LeVeon Bell a punk?
    * is Serena Williams a cheat?
    * Derek Jeter is making all American-born players and coaches learn Spanish

    These four threads were started by four different people.

    • is this colorblind?

    Nope just facts. If white althetes were making sound topics to discuss we would be on top of them. Can you name anyone we are missing Geordie? Or are you just jumping at any opportunity to be overly defensive for Black people?

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    People everywhere jumped all over Tom Brady for Deflategate.

    Last time I checked, Brady isn't a black athlete.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Steve Tom Brady and deflate gate doesn’t fit Kap’s blind supporters agenda

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,231 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 10, 2018 8:40AM

    @perkdog said:
    Steve Tom Brady and deflate gate doesn’t fit Kap’s blind supporters agenda

    Actually it does . There were all sorts of media idiots and regular joes across the country that thought something actually happened and that Brady deserved to get suspended.
    Glicker still thinks that for instance. There was a definite agenda behind deflategate

    ESPN was also heavily involved in deflategate

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 10, 2018 9:28AM

    @bronco2078 said:

    @perkdog said:
    Steve Tom Brady and deflate gate doesn’t fit Kap’s blind supporters agenda

    Actually it does . There were all sorts of media idiots and regular joes across the country that thought something actually happened and that Brady deserved to get suspended.
    Glicker still thinks that for instance. There was a definite agenda behind deflategate

    ESPN was also heavily involved in deflategate

    There was an agenda but it had nothing to do with a Black/White issue that guys like Geordie froth at the mouth to get involved in and automatically take the black side regardless of the situation

  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭

    Paul, if you think my posts are “frothing at the mouth”, then maybe we aren’t quite the friends we claim to be. I have been pretty damn rational when debating you and your fellow Kaepernick detractors.

    You and others claim to be holding back your comments. Don’t feel obligated to do so on my account.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TNP777 said:
    Paul, if you think my posts are “frothing at the mouth”, then maybe we aren’t quite the friends we claim to be. I have been pretty damn rational when debating you and your fellow Kaepernick detractors.

    You and others claim to be holding back your comments. Don’t feel obligated to do so on my account.

    Actually Geordie I think you are looking for any excuse to support your agenda and I call that frothing at the mouth, I would say that to anyone that has brought up as many incorrect opinions about what might be racism here. Your post about us picking on Black people offended me straight up, it’s your politically correct way of calling us racists and you have insinuated that numerous times. The funny thing is your white and the same black people you are defending wouldn’t defend you under any circumstances. I call it the way I see it, I’ve already stated I won’t let this come between our long standing friendship here Geordie and it won’t on my end, if it does on your end then so be it, I still respect you and enjoy your input outside of this thread.

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,231 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @bronco2078 said:

    @perkdog said:
    Steve Tom Brady and deflate gate doesn’t fit Kap’s blind supporters agenda

    Actually it does . There were all sorts of media idiots and regular joes across the country that thought something actually happened and that Brady deserved to get suspended.
    Glicker still thinks that for instance. There was a definite agenda behind deflategate

    ESPN was also heavily involved in deflategate

    There was an agenda but it had nothing to do with a Black/White issue that guys like Geordie froth at the mouth to get involved in and automatically take the black side regardless of the situation

    :D

    what does the kapnernick thing have to do with black or white? Who is white ? the flag , is the flag white in this example ?

    :D

    Its the same agenda , conflict........ eyeballs .............clicks............ viewers ..................money money money

    Keep us divided with bullshit so we don't realize what we all have in common against those holding us down.

    The day of reckoning is coming B)

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    <<< As it is he just comes off as an angry, hate filled guy who has been able to laugh all the way to the bank with many millions of dollars he has earned from the system he roundly condemns. >>>

    Bingo

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Perkdog and billjones hit the nail on the head! OUTSTANDING posts!!!

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i just have one thing to say. regardless of which side you're on in this interminable debate, i'd buy every single one of you cats a beer.

    and dimeman a foo-foo drink.

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @galaxy27 said:
    i just have one thing to say. regardless of which side you're on in this interminable debate, i'd buy every single one of you cats a beer.

    and dimeman a foo-foo drink.

    I would too, I don’t hold grudges nor do I hate on anyone who has different opinions than me. Heck me and my best friend back in our 20’s literally had 5 serious fistfights, not the wrestling/yelling type but the kind where we really were trying to hurt each other and we always remained friends and had each others backs. I think our record was Me 2 Him 3 :(

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 10, 2018 2:58PM

    @TNP777 said:
    Right now there are four threads in the top 10 that cast current and former black athletes in a negative light:
    * is Colin Kaepernick a jerk?
    * is LeVeon Bell a punk?
    * is Serena Williams a cheat?
    * Derek Jeter is making all American-born players and coaches learn Spanish

    These four threads were started by four different people.

    • is this colorblind?

    If the Asian tennis player had the 15 minute tantrum, the thread would have been about her.

    *just looked up Jeter, I never knew that he was Black. Maybe it is TNP777 who measures a man by the color of his skin.

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  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭

    @Coinstartled said:
    *just looked up Jeter, I never knew that he was Black. Maybe it is TNP777 who measures a man by the color of his skin.

    Right out of the ol' playbook. A staunch defender of Sacred White Identity accuses a white man (who was almost an articulate black man) and who is defending a half white/half black man, who in turn is protesting harsh treatment by police officers of black men and women, of judging people based on their skin color. Well played, Herr Glickmeister.

    @1970s said:
    Just checking in to see how our resident snowflakes are feeling this evening.
    So what is offending us today ? Is it overly patriotic white men ? Perhaps you're upset that we haven't changed the name of the Washington football team yet ? Perhaps you are feeling the
    urge to go destroy some statue somewhere in America ? That seems more important to you then heading to Chicago and solving the epidemic of gun violence and murder in that city that
    is led by your kinsmen. Tell us snowflake, what is upsetting you today ?

    >
    Am I the only one that has noticed that the ones bitching the most in this thread are the "overly patriotic white men"? But riiiiight, I'm the snowflake.

    Don't have much of an opinion on the Redskins, but I can see how the name might offend a Native American. I've got other things I'm much more passionate about, though.

    Urge to destroy statues? Nope. Would I like to see all Confederate statues removed to a museum? Yep. The Confederate South were traitors to the United States, and they fought for, among other things, the right to own other human beings. That is a part of our nation's history, albeit a shameful part. In my opinion, that can be memorialized in a museum of some sort.

    What is it with you guys and Chicago, Chicago, Chicago. There's crime in other cities, too. But sure, let's solve Chicago. Hey, how about this? Let's talk about the fact that almost all mass shootings are committed by bat-bleep crazy white guys? No? Okay, back to Chicago, I guess.

    So why did Kaepernick kneel? Why did Kenny Stills and Albert Wilson kneel yesterday?

    Because Botham Jean, who was killed in his own apartment by an officer who thought she was in her apartment. She first claimed the door was locked, then that the door was partially open, then that she gave him verbal commands that he didn't obey - because he was in his own place and didn't have to obey commands from an off-duty officer who didn't have a warrant or exigent circumstances.

    That, @1970s, is what offends me.

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TNP777 said:

    @Coinstartled said:
    *just looked up Jeter, I never knew that he was Black. Maybe it is TNP777 who measures a man by the color of his skin.

    Right out of the ol' playbook. A staunch defender of Sacred White Identity accuses a white man (who was almost an articulate black man) and who is defending a half white/half black man, who in turn is protesting harsh treatment by police officers of black men and women, of judging people based on their skin color. Well played, Herr Glickmeister.

    >
    Please try again. You have lost me.

  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭
    edited September 10, 2018 5:31PM

    In other news, Nike stock closed today at $82.10, which means they have recovered all but $0.10 of their slide on August 31. Angry White outrage doesn't seem to have had any kind of long-lasting effect.

    Hey, @1970s, does that news offend you? B)

    Since we're still in a tizzy about Flag etiquette, what's more offensive? Kneeling, or wiping your nose with it?

    https://www.thegudda.com/smdh-woman-caught-wiping-her-nose-with-american-flag-during-trump-rally/

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 10, 2018 5:18PM

    @TNP777 said:

    @Coinstartled said:
    *just looked up Jeter, I never knew that he was Black. Maybe it is TNP777 who measures a man by the color of his skin.

    Right out of the ol' playbook. A staunch defender of Sacred White Identity accuses a white man (who was almost an articulate black man) and who is defending a half white/half black man, who in turn is protesting harsh treatment by police officers of black men and women, of judging people based on their skin color. Well played, Herr Glickmeister.

    @1970s said:
    Just checking in to see how our resident snowflakes are feeling this evening.
    So what is offending us today ? Is it overly patriotic white men ? Perhaps you're upset that we haven't changed the name of the Washington football team yet ? Perhaps you are feeling the
    urge to go destroy some statue somewhere in America ? That seems more important to you then heading to Chicago and solving the epidemic of gun violence and murder in that city that
    is led by your kinsmen. Tell us snowflake, what is upsetting you today ?

    >
    Am I the only one that has noticed that the ones bitching the most in this thread are the "overly patriotic white men"? But riiiiight, I'm the snowflake.

    Don't have much of an opinion on the Redskins, but I can see how the name might offend a Native American. I've got other things I'm much more passionate about, though.

    Urge to destroy statues? Nope. Would I like to see all Confederate statues removed to a museum? Yep. The Confederate South were traitors to the United States, and they fought for, among other things, the right to own other human beings. That is a part of our nation's history, albeit a shameful part. In my opinion, that can be memorialized in a museum of some sort.

    What is it with you guys and Chicago, Chicago, Chicago. There's crime in other cities, too. But sure, let's solve Chicago. Hey, how about this? Let's talk about the fact that almost all mass shootings are committed by bat-bleep crazy white guys? No? Okay, back to Chicago, I guess.

    So why did Kaepernick kneel? Why did Kenny Stills and Albert Wilson kneel yesterday?

    Because Botham Jean, who was killed in his own apartment by an officer who thought she was in her apartment. She first claimed the door was locked, then that the door was partially open, then that she gave him verbal commands that he didn't obey - because he was in his own place and didn't have to obey commands from an off-duty officer who didn't have a warrant or exigent circumstances.

    That, @1970s, is what offends me.

    I mentioned LA, and Mark really didn’t like my counterpoint and you might have missed it Geordie? That police officer shooting the guy in the apartment has more details that have yet to come out, there are people that claim to have seen them together before on social media or something in person not quite sure. I see you addressed several people but me, Now Geordie since you mentioned the word “Passionate” and I assume your talking about changing bad white peoples views on social injustes let me ask you this, what do you do about it besides indicate that us bad white guys are racist? Oh and where did you find that liberal trump hating photoshop pic? It’s hilarious that you people are actually are saying she is blowing her nose when she is clearly scratching her cheekbone, nice try though.

  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭

    Hi, Paul.

    What do I do? I have real-world conversations with as many people as I can get to sit down with me. People from my former church world. People whose backgrounds I used to shun and vilify. People of different faiths than my own. I'm not having as many conversations as I'd like, but each one allows me to gain insight into views that I had never considered before. I might not agree with some or most of them, but I get to know the real person behind those views, lifestyle and faiths. That's a good thing, imo.

    I vote, and encourage others to register to vote, regardless of who they'll be voting for. I promote candidates who aren't beholden to lobbyists with deep pockets. And for the first time in my life, I participated in a peaceful protest on March 24. I may do more of that kind of thing, but I dunno. That took me way outside my comfort zone.

    Oh, and I'm learning Spanish. It's a cool language and one that will serve me well if I plan to spend the rest of my life on the west coast.

    Beyond that, there's not much I can do, other than be the best husband/father/dog lover/person I can be in my little corner of the planet.

    Thanks for asking.

    ps: I did see that you commented on L.A. You and I both know that Chicago is the most-used "whataboutism" in these kinds of conversations, though.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well Geordie then I commend you for actually doing something about how you feel. Now it’s making sense why you are so passionate about this, you are a church goer, I get it now. My mother is a huge Church person so I do have respect for that even though it’s not my thing. Have a nice evening and thanks for responding

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TNP777 said...Beyond that, there's not much I can do, other than be the best husband/father/dog lover/person I can be in my little corner of the planet.

    If everybody did this it would be a GREAT world! ;)

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,231 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DIMEMAN said:
    @TNP777 said...Beyond that, there's not much I can do, other than be the best husband/father/dog lover/person I can be in my little corner of the planet.

    If everybody did this it would be a GREAT world! ;)

    ya except cats are better than dogs

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bronco2078 said:

    @DIMEMAN said:
    @TNP777 said...Beyond that, there's not much I can do, other than be the best husband/father/dog lover/person I can be in my little corner of the planet.

    If everybody did this it would be a GREAT world! ;)

    ya except cats are better than dogs

    No way man. Dogs are a mans best friend...…..cats can't be trusted. :o

  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭

    now I AM offended! 😂

    My wife and I have always had a cat and two dogs. Our current kitty is a snowshoe Siamese. I’m his chosen human - he actually walks the block with us when I take one of my dogs for a walk.

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Chicago is toast. Detroit of two decades ago. They will manage to carve out some safe spaces, but the heart is gone.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dogs have masters, cats have servants...we all know this. :)

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cat's are always sitting around trying to think of ways to kill ya.

    @stevek said:
    Dogs have masters, cats have servants...we all know this. :)

  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DIMEMAN said:
    Cat's are always sitting around trying to think of ways to kill ya.

    @stevek said:
    Dogs have masters, cats have servants...we all know this. :)

    If anyone's cat thinks there is another human out there who will serve them better food, then they probably would. ;)

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hey I want to get in on this too.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My 130 lb baby bullmastiff Cam. She’s a lover. Lives for kisses

    m

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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:
    My 130 lb baby bullmastiff Cam. She’s a lover. Lives for kisses

    m

    Wow.....I bet those kisses are wet! :o;)

  • TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,710 ✭✭✭
    edited September 10, 2018 8:28PM

    Our cat, George and our American Bulldog, Ella. Ella has never lost her fascination for her brother.

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭
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