My first order of 10 was waiting on me when I got home. Order placed just after 12pm on Thursday, 11/20. Sac's look the part of enhanced uncirculated. Quality seems better than business strikes. Serial numbers were all over the place and few were consecutive as follows:
J 05701368 A J 05701348 A J 05701340 A J 05701338 A J 05701336 A
J 05701315 A J 05701313 A J 05701312 A J 05701311 A J 05701310 A
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For what it's worth, I just finished talking to a cs and he indicated they do not expect any more sets
If true, than maybe they made only 25K which would be beneficial. With one month left they still could produce the other half or maybe not. Maybe the remind me button will be used as a kind of waiting list to see the demand for the set when showing out of stock.
<< <i>Who is going to get xxxxx001 or will it be 000? >>
That's a good question. I believe a block of notes start with 01, so it might be 05700001 though 05750000. Assuming they're using consecutive serial numbers. (We still don't know that.)
If I was the Mint, I'd be keeping 05700001, 05702014 and 05750000 as specimens. But that's just me...
<< <i>My first order of 10 was waiting on me when I got home. Order placed just after 12pm on Thursday, 11/20. Sac's look the part of enhanced uncirculated. Quality seems better than business strikes. Serial numbers were all over the place and few were consecutive as follows:
J 05701368 A J 05701348 A J 05701340 A J 05701338 A J 05701336 A
J 05701315 A J 05701313 A J 05701312 A J 05701311 A J 05701310 A >>
Thanks. So far J057X XXXX seems to be the magic serial numbers.
<< <i>For what it's worth, I just finished talking to a cs and he indicated they do not expect any more sets
If true, than maybe they made only 25K which would be beneficial. With one month left they still could produce the other half or maybe not. Maybe the remind me button will be used as a kind of waiting list to see the demand for the set when showing out of stock. >>
Or two or three dealers or individuals picked 10K-15K sets on Monday after the news broke. 10,000 sets would have been a $140K gamble.
If the Mint doesn't fess up, we'll know in a week when the new sales figures come out. Now that the mint's new fulfillment company doesn't seem to want to back-order merchandise, we should start getting better real-time delivery numbers, rather than total number ordered...
Or two or three dealers or individuals picked 10K-15K sets on Monday after the news broke. 10,000 sets would have been a $140K gamble.
That scenario is quite possible and they are sold out. I could see a Coin Vault buying 15K sets. This offering by the mint would be easy to corner the market and then promote like crazy. The mint wanted to get rid of these as fast as possible so no household limit. They may have betted that a few dealers would take them all.
<< <i>My first order of 10 was waiting on me when I got home. Order placed just after 12pm on Thursday, 11/20. Sac's look the part of enhanced uncirculated. Quality seems better than business strikes. Serial numbers were all over the place and few were consecutive as follows:
J 05701368 A J 05701348 A J 05701340 A J 05701338 A J 05701336 A
J 05701315 A J 05701313 A J 05701312 A J 05701311 A J 05701310 A >>
Thanks Gopher!
This is just like 2006 - 2007, Boys!
This issue is a Home Run!
I was ‘COINB0Y' with 4812 posts and ‘Expert Collector’ ranking (Joined in 2006).
Noticed tonight that "Out of Stock" has been changed to "Currently Out of Stock" FWIW..
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Where did you get the mintage? It's not showing on the mint production page yet. >>
According to yesterday's Mint News Blog: "The United States Mint has announced a reduction to the product limit for the 2014 50th Anniversary Kennedy Half Dollar Silver Coin Collection. The previously indicated limit of 300,000 units has now been reduced to 225,000 units." "As of November 24, sales have reached 165,824 units, up by 21,252 from the prior week. The cumulative total now represents 73.70% of the revised product limit. The US Mint has indicated that the product will remain available until sold out."
I never thought that growing old would happen so fast. - Jim
Where did you get the mintage? It's not showing on the mint production page yet. >>
According to yesterday's Mint News Blog: "The United States Mint has announced a reduction to the product limit for the 2014 50th Anniversary Kennedy Half Dollar Silver Coin Collection. The previously indicated limit of 300,000 units has now been reduced to 225,000 units." "As of November 24, sales have reached 165,824 units, up by 21,252 from the prior week. The cumulative total now represents 73.70% of the revised product limit. The US Mint has indicated that the product will remain available until sold out." >>
Who cares about the Kennedy set...we are discussing the coin and currency set TA9
"Special Collectibles TA9 2014 AMERICAN $1 COIN & CURRENCY SET 9,720"
So, what if they don't have any more enhanced versions Sac's and substitute the regular issue coin but only produce say 5,000 sets, which would be the better set to own?
<< <i>So, what if they don't have any more enhanced versions Sac's and substitute the regular issue coin but only produce say 5,000 sets, which would be the better set to own? >>
Years ago, I would never give that a thought, however this is today.
Good point made, very plausible!
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I like this listing.....I wonder if it would be graded as "pre-enhanced"
<< <i>2000 US Millennium Coin & Currency Set w/ BURNISHED SACAGAWEA pre enhanced >>
In other words....regular SAC >>
The Millennium C&C set did have a burnished Sac that was close to the Goodacre finish, much different than the proof/uncirc finishes of that year. Some sets arrived without the burnished Sac, but the majority had a special finish. If you look, they did slab these Sacs as Millennium, Burnished (or not).
<< <i>So, what if they don't have any more enhanced versions Sac's and substitute the regular issue coin but only produce say 5,000 sets, which would be the better set to own? >>
<< <i>Got up this morning and they were showing in stock. Loaded 20, went through the checkout process as a guest becuase I'd forgotten my login stuff and was in a hurry. Got to the last step and it flipped back to the initial ordering page and it said quantity not available and at that point I had to split...Don't think it went through. >>
Just got home and reloaded the mint site...What it said when I tried to order 20 was quantity not available and it reduced my cart to 11 units...I checked out and did receive an order number and it says processing...Will upload screen shots later today... >>
My order from yesterday got poofed. Guess I'll have to postpone my retirement
<< <i>Any word on grading these either here or ATS? I know ATS had a note saying packaging was required and no ER but that was before "the Discovery" >>
NGC updated their page:
<< <i>The coin must be submitted under the NGC Modern Special grading tier. The five (5)-coin minimum will be waived. The default label will be the NGC Sacagawea label. The Enhanced Finish 2014-D Sacagawea $1 from the Coin and Currency Set is eligible for the NGC Early Releases or NGC First Releases designations. >>
That's the email I got the day they went on sale and before the EU thing was released. I guess no change....emailed them twice with no response. Still waiting for word from PCGS....
<< <i>Any word on grading these either here or ATS? I know ATS had a note saying packaging was required and no ER but that was before "the Discovery" >>
NGC updated their page:
<< <i>The coin must be submitted under the NGC Modern Special grading tier. The five (5)-coin minimum will be waived. The default label will be the NGC Sacagawea label. The Enhanced Finish 2014-D Sacagawea $1 from the Coin and Currency Set is eligible for the NGC Early Releases or NGC First Releases designations. >>
<< <i>Any word on grading these either here or ATS? I know ATS had a note saying packaging was required and no ER but that was before "the Discovery" >>
NGC updated their page:
<< <i>The coin must be submitted under the NGC Modern Special grading tier. The five (5)-coin minimum will be waived. The default label will be the NGC Sacagawea label. The Enhanced Finish 2014-D Sacagawea $1 from the Coin and Currency Set is eligible for the NGC Early Releases or NGC First Releases designations. >>
<< <i>Or two or three dealers or individuals picked 10K-15K sets on Monday after the news broke. 10,000 sets would have been a $140K gamble.
That scenario is quite possible and they are sold out. I could see a Coin Vault buying 15K sets. This offering by the mint would be easy to corner the market and then promote like crazy. The mint wanted to get rid of these as fast as possible so no household limit. They may have betted that a few dealers would take them all. >>
I hope it was Coin Vault. I'll sell mine for a slight discount....
OK, assuming these are all gone and those of us dumb/smart enough to get some have them, what will the pricing pattern look like over the rest of the year?
Spike, then drop, then spike just before Christmas, then slow decline or...?
Edit to add: Nobody seriously believes there are 50,000 Sac collectors that need one, do they?
The suckers on ebay are getting burned. These will die fast.
The fuss on here about paid line standers and now there are those here trying to corner the market on these?
Well, sequential $1 FRNs are not special. If the suckers can be tricked into buying these thinking the hoardes mean rarity then you have a market, but it's a fools market and the buyers are being taken and suckered.
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J 05701368 A
J 05701348 A
J 05701340 A
J 05701338 A
J 05701336 A
J 05701315 A
J 05701313 A
J 05701312 A
J 05701311 A
J 05701310 A
...and an FYI...(assuming you can read this)
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That sounds too low, I know based on my numbers from yesterday, at least 15K had been sold by Lunch.
- Jim
<< <i>That sounds too low, I know based on my numbers from yesterday, at least 15K had been sold by Lunch. >>
You must have missed this part:
<< <i>However, you have to remember that this is through Sunday night, before the big reveal on Monday... >>
If true, than maybe they made only 25K which would be beneficial. With one month left they still could produce the other half or maybe not. Maybe the remind me button will be used as a kind of waiting list to see the demand for the set when showing out of stock.
Box of 20
<< <i>Who is going to get xxxxx001 or will it be 000? >>
That's a good question. I believe a block of notes start with 01, so it might be 05700001 though 05750000. Assuming they're using consecutive serial numbers. (We still don't know that.)
If I was the Mint, I'd be keeping 05700001, 05702014 and 05750000 as specimens. But that's just me...
Weird...
<< <i>My first order of 10 was waiting on me when I got home. Order placed just after 12pm on Thursday, 11/20. Sac's look the part of enhanced uncirculated. Quality seems better than business strikes. Serial numbers were all over the place and few were consecutive as follows:
J 05701368 A
J 05701348 A
J 05701340 A
J 05701338 A
J 05701336 A
J 05701315 A
J 05701313 A
J 05701312 A
J 05701311 A
J 05701310 A >>
Thanks. So far J057X XXXX seems to be the magic serial numbers.
<< <i>For what it's worth, I just finished talking to a cs and he indicated they do not expect any more sets
If true, than maybe they made only 25K which would be beneficial. With one month left they still could produce the other half or maybe not. Maybe the remind me button will be used as a kind of waiting list to see the demand for the set when showing out of stock. >>
Or two or three dealers or individuals picked 10K-15K sets on Monday after the news broke. 10,000 sets would have been a $140K gamble.
If the Mint doesn't fess up, we'll know in a week when the new sales figures come out. Now that the mint's new fulfillment company doesn't seem to want to back-order merchandise, we should start getting better real-time delivery numbers, rather than total number ordered...
That scenario is quite possible and they are sold out. I could see a Coin Vault buying 15K sets. This offering by the mint would be easy to corner the market and then promote like crazy. The mint wanted to get rid of these as fast as possible so no household limit. They may have betted that a few dealers would take them all.
Box of 20
<< <i>My first order of 10 was waiting on me when I got home. Order placed just after 12pm on Thursday, 11/20. Sac's look the part of enhanced uncirculated. Quality seems better than business strikes. Serial numbers were all over the place and few were consecutive as follows:
J 05701368 A
J 05701348 A
J 05701340 A
J 05701338 A
J 05701336 A
J 05701315 A
J 05701313 A
J 05701312 A
J 05701311 A
J 05701310 A >>
Thanks Gopher!
This is just like 2006 - 2007, Boys!
This issue is a Home Run!
<< <i>For what it's worth, I just finished talking to a cs and he indicated they do not expect any more sets >>
I was told the same thing. I'm betting these are gone and someone bought the farm yesterday.
<< <i>
<< <i>For what it's worth, I just finished talking to a cs and he indicated they do not expect any more sets >>
I was told the same thing. I'm betting these are gone and someone bought the farm yesterday. >>
Where will the burial be?
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>Noticed tonight that "Out of Stock" has been changed to "Currently Out of Stock" FWIW.. >>
Maybe they are expecting some returns.
<< <i>Noticed tonight that "Out of Stock" has been changed to "Currently Out of Stock" FWIW.. >>
It appears, that they did not produce the whole nine yards to begin with...Expect another run later. That's my interpretation.
<< <i>That is surprisingly low --
Where did you get the mintage? It's not showing on the mint production page yet. >>
According to yesterday's Mint News Blog:
"The United States Mint has announced a reduction to the product limit for the 2014 50th Anniversary Kennedy Half Dollar Silver Coin Collection. The previously indicated limit of 300,000 units has now been reduced to 225,000 units."
"As of November 24, sales have reached 165,824 units, up by 21,252 from the prior week. The cumulative total now represents 73.70% of the revised product limit. The US Mint has indicated that the product will remain available until sold out."
- Jim
<< <i>
<< <i>That is surprisingly low --
Where did you get the mintage? It's not showing on the mint production page yet. >>
According to yesterday's Mint News Blog:
"The United States Mint has announced a reduction to the product limit for the 2014 50th Anniversary Kennedy Half Dollar Silver Coin Collection. The previously indicated limit of 300,000 units has now been reduced to 225,000 units."
"As of November 24, sales have reached 165,824 units, up by 21,252 from the prior week. The cumulative total now represents 73.70% of the revised product limit. The US Mint has indicated that the product will remain available until sold out." >>
Who cares about the Kennedy set...we are discussing the coin and currency set TA9
"Special Collectibles TA9 2014 AMERICAN $1 COIN & CURRENCY SET 9,720"
nullUS Mint production figures...half way down TA9
<< <i>
<< <i>Noticed tonight that "Out of Stock" has been changed to "Currently Out of Stock" FWIW.. >>
Maybe they are expecting some returns. >>
Damn...you beat me to that comment
11/25 BIN sold at $49.95 and $38.50
As a side note:
I like this listing.....I wonder if it would be graded as "pre-enhanced"
<< <i>2000 US Millennium Coin & Currency Set w/ BURNISHED SACAGAWEA pre enhanced >>
In other words....regular SAC
It will be interesting to see who gets what today!
I have Mon 12/01/2014 as my receive dates.
<< <i>Noticed tonight that "Out of Stock" has been changed to "Currently Out of Stock" FWIW.. >>
Grote, how have you been?
I think you are right, the Mint & Contractor are scrambling to re-stock what remaining inventory they have.
I hope they screwed it up and under produced.
I'll bet the institute (5) Unit Limits if they do open up again on these.
Box of 20
<< <i>So, what if they don't have any more enhanced versions Sac's and substitute the regular issue coin but only produce say 5,000 sets, which would be the better set to own? >>
Years ago, I would never give that a thought, however this is today.
Good point made, very plausible!
<< <i>As a side note:
I like this listing.....I wonder if it would be graded as "pre-enhanced"
<< <i>2000 US Millennium Coin & Currency Set w/ BURNISHED SACAGAWEA pre enhanced >>
In other words....regular SAC >>
The Millennium C&C set did have a burnished Sac that was close to the Goodacre finish, much different than the proof/uncirc finishes of that year. Some sets arrived without the burnished Sac, but the majority had a special finish. If you look, they did slab these Sacs as Millennium, Burnished (or not).
<< <i>So, what if they don't have any more enhanced versions Sac's and substitute the regular issue coin but only produce say 5,000 sets, which would be the better set to own? >>
Not unprecedented:
Millennium Coinage & Currency Sets
<< <i>
<< <i>Got up this morning and they were showing in stock. Loaded 20, went through the checkout process as a guest becuase I'd forgotten my login stuff and was in a hurry. Got to the last step and it flipped back to the initial ordering page and it said quantity not available and at that point I had to split...Don't think it went through. >>
Just got home and reloaded the mint site...What it said when I tried to order 20 was quantity not available and it reduced my cart to 11 units...I checked out and did receive an order number and it says processing...Will upload screen shots later today...
My order from yesterday got poofed. Guess I'll have to postpone my retirement
<< <i>Any word on grading these either here or ATS? I know ATS had a note saying packaging was required and no ER but that was before "the Discovery" >>
NGC updated their page:
<< <i>The coin must be submitted under the NGC Modern Special grading tier. The five (5)-coin minimum will be waived. The default label will be the NGC Sacagawea label. The Enhanced Finish 2014-D Sacagawea $1 from the Coin and Currency Set is eligible for the NGC Early Releases or NGC First Releases designations. >>
They want the entire panel submitted.
Submit the 2014 American $1 Coin and Currency Set
PCGS seems silent on this issue.
<< <i>
"Special Collectibles TA9 2014 AMERICAN $1 COIN & CURRENCY SET 9,720"
>>
I bought more than 9,000 so that number must not be correct
<< <i>
<< <i>
"Special Collectibles TA9 2014 AMERICAN $1 COIN & CURRENCY SET 9,720"
>>
I bought more than 9,000 so that number must not be correct
Before or after Sunday???
<< <i>
<< <i>Any word on grading these either here or ATS? I know ATS had a note saying packaging was required and no ER but that was before "the Discovery" >>
NGC updated their page:
<< <i>The coin must be submitted under the NGC Modern Special grading tier. The five (5)-coin minimum will be waived. The default label will be the NGC Sacagawea label. The Enhanced Finish 2014-D Sacagawea $1 from the Coin and Currency Set is eligible for the NGC Early Releases or NGC First Releases designations. >>
They want the entire panel submitted.
Submit the 2014 American $1 Coin and Currency Set
PCGS seems silent on this issue. >>
nGC says they are sold out twice in their press release!
<< <i>
<< <i>Any word on grading these either here or ATS? I know ATS had a note saying packaging was required and no ER but that was before "the Discovery" >>
NGC updated their page:
<< <i>The coin must be submitted under the NGC Modern Special grading tier. The five (5)-coin minimum will be waived. The default label will be the NGC Sacagawea label. The Enhanced Finish 2014-D Sacagawea $1 from the Coin and Currency Set is eligible for the NGC Early Releases or NGC First Releases designations. >>
They want the entire panel submitted.
Submit the 2014 American $1 Coin and Currency Set
PCGS seems silent on this issue. >>
Let's giddy-up PCGS. Mo product, mo money.
<< <i>Or two or three dealers or individuals picked 10K-15K sets on Monday after the news broke. 10,000 sets would have been a $140K gamble.
That scenario is quite possible and they are sold out. I could see a Coin Vault buying 15K sets. This offering by the mint would be easy to corner the market and then promote like crazy. The mint wanted to get rid of these as fast as possible so no household limit. They may have betted that a few dealers would take them all. >>
I hope it was Coin Vault. I'll sell mine for a slight discount....
<< <i>jessewvu, they just opened it up to me for a one purchase deal at the mint for 10,000 and now they are officially gone
So you are filled on your BST request "for 10-100" units?
Well I just opened up my 1st of 15 delivered today and the $1 serial number is J05699118A
Kinda kills that 000-50,000 thing...maybe it's xxx75000-xxx25000...or not
Spike, then drop, then spike just before Christmas, then slow decline or...?
Edit to add: Nobody seriously believes there are 50,000 Sac collectors that need one, do they?
The suckers on ebay are getting burned. These will die fast.
The fuss on here about paid line standers and now there are those here trying to corner the market on these?
Well, sequential $1 FRNs are not special. If the suckers can be tricked into buying these thinking the hoardes mean rarity then you have a market, but it's a fools market and the buyers are being taken and suckered.