Thanks for letting us know... I am now quite sick to my stomach. Didn't see the coin being listed - although I was walking the dogs at 5:30 ... I fell back asleep later on until 8:30.
I think I now need another lie-down.
Edit: After the shock of missing out on the 09-O, I forgot to say how much I like your 97-O, Vern. Love the toning !!
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Wow. One of 3. That's news. On eBay of all places. Fair value with respect to the comps in the set with those pops in AU. It's funny to watch a market coalesce around something like this in a 8-10 year slice of time. Like the 04s Half had done as well.
We're all born MS70. I'm about a Fine 15 right now.
<< <i> Justin, Somebody got a good deal on that 09-O. Thanks for posting!
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An AU58 for $5200!!! I think the seller certainly got a good deal! >>
Sure did. I remember six or seven years back there were two low MS (but very nice for the grade) 1909-O quarters being sold. I was actually tempted to buy the MS coin, break it out, and wear down the grade slightly to AU58 for the big price jump.
Nowadays, AU55's and MS62-64 are the go to grades for me. The AU58 craze has gone bonkers.
I still think the seller could have gotten a LOT more for that 09-O, especially considering eBay and PayPal fees. That's doesn't mean that I think the coin is worth more than the buyer paid, but the market for AU 09-O quarters is much higher, deservedly or not. Interesting topic to debate!
Paesan
P.S. Mike, I too would have scooped it up! Bummer!!!
This particular 09-O was the only 09-O in PCGS 58 that I had not seen. With a low pop of only three coins in 58, the last one to get a 58 was "Our's" {PAESAN & Labelman87.} I know what the other AU 58 looks like, and I believe it is in strong hands.
My "eyes" { my YN friend, Valente151} says the ebay AU 58 coin was messed with and I missed a bullet. Regarding the price, selling that coin for $5,200 was a fair price. Consider the one at Teaparty for $7500. Granted, I am sure Liz/ Gail dropped the price a little, but it was a consigned coin ( am I correct in assuming that ? ) and they wouldn't budge too much. Missing the bullet or not, I would have hit the buy it now button anyway.
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Thanks, Craig. I've been very fortunate to be the curator of some special 09-O quarters. I sent the 61 for an upgrade when I used to throw money at our host, but it came back 61. I grade 63+, and it's only a dip away from a 64! He-he-he.
I have been admiring the 1897-O Quarter - what a great looking coin.... here is the one from my current set...
.....and, here is the one from my former set...
Doug's 93-O & 93-S are beauties as well....
Here are my examples...
Here's my old 93-S... still looking for the one I have today...
I realized that one of my coins in my Quarter set was in my previous collection - and I repurchased it when I found it - but because its in my All Time Finest Set - I can not register it.
Here is my old & current 1915-S
I found this pristine looking white coin the other day - and it still needs to be professionally imaged...
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Justin - Great look on the half that's now in the Stash.
Mike - Wonderful group of coins (especially the 97-O in 58 which I bought at your 2011 auction).
I had an interesting bit of business with Stacks/Bowers this week, which I put in a seperate thread. It sounds like everything will work out thanks to Brian Kendrella, and this coin will soon be replaced in my collection, PC53:
Vern l It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
The thread is slipping down- time for a post. I received a NGC MS 61 1893 S in the mail today:
The coin is very attractive, but I believe NGC missed the mark on this one. Enlarged I can see definite signs of wear- I don't know if it's detectable in these photos or not. I'm sending it in to PCGS for crossing, setting a 58 as acceptable. I hope it comes through for me!
Another raw pickup that arrived in the mail today, a 1902 O Half:
The coin hasn't been messed with- the surfaces look original. Unfortunately, however, the obverse has a scratch in a spot that's not immediately obvious. Is it obscure enough to allow the coin to grade? I hope so......... Off to PCGS.
Don't get your hopes up... I think the coin will get a Genuine holder ...with a damaged code. Those parallel scratches on the upper OBV are enough to keep it out of a numbered grade. JMHO.
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Paesan - NTT not coming to me (yet). NTM must be one of my favs, "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest". Jack is great.
Jeff - Rev of your 93-S looks MS to me, obv might get you the 58 tho. I think it's luck of the draw on the 02-O. I've seen much worse scratches on coins in graded holders. Good luck.
Pics for this AM, from Paesan's Stash, PC20 and NGC-55:
Vern l It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Jeff, Your 93-S is my favorite coin that you have posted so far. Why try to downgrade it? If it comes back 61 and you don't want it, I may know the perfect place to STASH it!
Vern, Jack is great and what a movie! BTW both those 93-S halves are long gone, but the memory remains!
<< <i>Jeff, Your 93-S is my favorite coin that you have posted so far. Why try to downgrade it? If it comes back 61 and you don't want it, I may know the perfect place to STASH it!q]
Lenny-
Aside that it doesn't look like a MS coin to me (and I like coins in the proper holder), I want a 58 for the Registry set. A 61 isn't very thrilling, but a 58 is. Maybe it will 58+ (kidding)! I do like the look of the coin, so I'll likely keep it no matter.
The latest addition to my team; a 1902 O Half-PCGS AU 58:
Although the strike isn't great, it's rather average for Now Orleans. This coin replaces an AU 50 in my set; I found this a much tougher date than PCGS seems to think.
<< <i>...... the 02-O is hands down the worst struck of any reverse (consistently) of any other Half I have seen. >>
Thanks for the insight; now I feel a little better about the coin.
I still find it strange how PCGS prices this coin lower than most other 58's. For example, they price the '02 O at $750 (Pop Count 14, Registry Weight 5), but the '02 is priced at $850 (Pop Count 42, Registry Weight 2). Is this just a typo, or does someone really believe the '02 O is a less valuable coin?
Jeff - Good looking 02-O, and a good strike as well.
Paesan - I should have gotten that NTT, I've only heard it about a 100 times, her **** a shakin.
Spent a wonderful early PM with Doug, looking at coins and discussing numismatics. Some new pics will follow in the next few days. For this PM tho, a raw one from my board:
Vern l It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
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Thanks for letting us know... I am now quite sick to my stomach.
Didn't see the coin being listed - although I was walking the dogs
at 5:30 ... I fell back asleep later on until 8:30.
I think I now need another lie-down.
Edit: After the shock of missing out on the 09-O, I forgot to
say how much I like your 97-O, Vern. Love the toning !!
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<< <i>
Justin, Somebody got a good deal on that 09-O. Thanks for posting!
>>
An AU58 for $5200!!! I think the seller certainly got a good deal!
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<< <i>1 of the 58 09-O's came up this morning, but it's gone already.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-O-US-Barber-Silver-Quarter-25C-PCGS-AU58-Full-Strike-Luster-/371256586857?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item56709df269 >>
Wow. One of 3. That's news.
On eBay of all places.
Fair value with respect to the comps in the set with those pops in AU.
It's funny to watch a market coalesce around something like this in a 8-10 year slice of time.
Like the 04s Half had done as well.
<< <i>
<< <i>
Justin, Somebody got a good deal on that 09-O. Thanks for posting!
>>
An AU58 for $5200!!! I think the seller certainly got a good deal! >>
Sure did. I remember six or seven years back there were two low MS (but very nice for the grade) 1909-O quarters being sold. I was actually tempted to buy the MS coin, break it out, and wear down the grade slightly to AU58 for the big price jump.
Nowadays, AU55's and MS62-64 are the go to grades for me. The AU58 craze has gone bonkers.
Tylers
Paesan
P.S. Mike, I too would have scooped it up! Bummer!!!
Paesan, et al:
This particular 09-O was the only 09-O in PCGS 58 that I had not seen.
With a low pop of only three coins in 58, the last one to get a 58 was
"Our's" {PAESAN & Labelman87.} I know what the other AU 58 looks like,
and I believe it is in strong hands.
My "eyes" { my YN friend, Valente151} says the ebay AU 58 coin was
messed with and I missed a bullet. Regarding the price, selling that coin
for $5,200 was a fair price. Consider the one at Teaparty for $7500.
Granted, I am sure Liz/ Gail dropped the price a little, but it was a consigned
coin ( am I correct in assuming that ? ) and they wouldn't budge too much.
Missing the bullet or not, I would have hit the buy it now button anyway.
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Dipped and retoned? Who knows.
That's a nice AU 09o.
Dennis - That 09-O looked dipped/re-toned to me. Your AU-55, now in Doug's collection is still my favorite AU '09-O.
Tyler - Here is one of those MS 09-O's you mentioned. Now in Paesan's Stash, PC61 (and undergraded IMO).
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Paesan
Here is a half that I really liked. The look in hand is so cool. I believe Lenny currently owns this coin.
Mike Valente sent me a CD he burned for me.
This coin is one of my favorites...
I have been admiring the 1897-O Quarter - what a great looking coin.... here is the one from my current set...
.....and, here is the one from my former set...
Doug's 93-O & 93-S are beauties as well....
Here are my examples...
Here's my old 93-S... still looking for the one I have today...
I realized that one of my coins in my Quarter set was in my previous collection - and I repurchased it when I found it -
but because its in my All Time Finest Set - I can not register it.
Here is my old & current 1915-S
I found this pristine looking white coin the other day - and it still needs to be professionally imaged...
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Mike - Wonderful group of coins (especially the 97-O in 58 which I bought at your 2011 auction).
I had an interesting bit of business with Stacks/Bowers this week, which I put in a seperate thread. It sounds like everything will work out thanks to Brian Kendrella, and this coin will soon be replaced in my collection, PC53:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Pics for this AM, a couple from my raw album:
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Justin, Thanks for the tip on the Logpotato special!
Paesan
The coin is very attractive, but I believe NGC missed the mark on this one. Enlarged I can see definite signs of wear- I don't know if it's detectable in these photos or not. I'm sending it in to PCGS for crossing, setting a 58 as acceptable. I hope it comes through for me!
The coin hasn't been messed with- the surfaces look original. Unfortunately, however, the obverse has a scratch in a spot that's not immediately obvious. Is it obscure enough to allow the coin to grade? I hope so......... Off to PCGS.
Jeff,
Don't get your hopes up... I think the coin will get a Genuine holder
...with a damaged code. Those parallel scratches on the upper OBV
are enough to keep it out of a numbered grade. JMHO.
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Jeff - Rev of your 93-S looks MS to me, obv might get you the 58 tho. I think it's luck of the draw on the 02-O. I've seen much worse scratches on coins in graded holders. Good luck.
Pics for this AM, from Paesan's Stash, PC20 and NGC-55:
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<< <i>Seriously, though, nice coins. Anybody wanna throw me a dollar value on my '06-O? I'm thinking $50-$75?
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My guess is it would grade and your numbers are about right. Nice images!
Vern, Jack is great and what a movie! BTW both those 93-S halves are long gone, but the memory remains!
<< <i>Jeff, Your 93-S is my favorite coin that you have posted so far. Why try to downgrade it? If it comes back 61 and you don't want it, I may know the perfect place to STASH it!q]
Lenny-
Aside that it doesn't look like a MS coin to me (and I like coins in the proper holder), I want a 58 for the Registry set. A 61 isn't very thrilling, but a 58 is. Maybe it will 58+ (kidding)! I do like the look of the coin, so I'll likely keep it no matter.
A 1899 ANACS AU 50:
Even though it's a common date I liked the way this coin looked. I cracked it out and sent it off to our hosts for grading; I think it's a AU 53.
FTB - I'd say your range is right on the 06-O. Neat die crack.
Pics for this AM, still my favorite look of a 58 in my collection:
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<< <i>Pics for this AM, still my favorite look of a 58 in my collection:
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Vern- I would have to agree with you; that's exactly hoy I like a 58 to look as well. Unfortunately few of mine look that way.
I'm hoping it will come back as a 55; I thought it had a better chance raw. It's an easy 53, and hopefully a 55.
And kudos to our hosts on the digital album concept. It is user friendly and really looks nice IMO.
Pics for this AM, a couple of bauties from Doug's collection:
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Here are the new TruViews. of the Dimes....
The 94-O went from MS 64 to 64 +, as did the 1908-S.
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Hayes - Pryor Pedigree
MS 64 to MS 64+
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Pics for this AM, from Paesan's Stash, both 55:
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The latest addition to my team; a 1902 O Half-PCGS AU 58:
Although the strike isn't great, it's rather average for Now Orleans. This coin replaces an AU 50 in my set; I found this a much tougher date than PCGS seems to think.
Jeff, Thanks for the compliment!
Vern, NTT Eddie Mahoney-Shakin
Jeff,
Your coin is the answer to Question Number One on (my) the ANA Barber Final Exam:
Which Date and Mint is the the worst struck of the Half Dollars ?
I bring a few examples of this date/mm with me for discussion.
Some credit is given for other guesses - but the 02-O is hands down the worst
struck of any reverse (consistently) of any other Half I have seen.
Your's is nicer than the average.
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<< <i>...... the 02-O is hands down the worst
struck of any reverse (consistently) of any other Half I have seen. >>
Thanks for the insight; now I feel a little better about the coin.
I still find it strange how PCGS prices this coin lower than most other 58's. For example, they price the '02 O at $750 (Pop Count 14, Registry Weight 5), but the '02 is priced at $850 (Pop Count 42, Registry Weight 2). Is this just a typo, or does someone really believe the '02 O is a less valuable coin?
I think this has a shot at a 55. Too bad it's such a common date.
Paesan - I should have gotten that NTT, I've only heard it about a 100 times, her **** a shakin.
Spent a wonderful early PM with Doug, looking at coins and discussing numismatics. Some new pics will follow in the next few days.
For this PM tho, a raw one from my board:
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PCGS AU-58
It's much nicer in hand.
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<< <i>What an amazing set, Vern. >>
I agree and I love the PCGS virtual album - especially seeing the dates on the obverses.
A nice space filler - as I never see this date anymore in AU 53-58.....
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<< <i>Free trueview on my '15-S Barber Half is done. Graded MS62.q]
That's a really nice half. Is that the one you bought at eBay?