I am so glad you liked the 09-O I sold you. If I didn't have a backer, you wouldn't have seen this coin. I fought off two buyers for it.
My all cash deal won in the end and you got a coin I can only dream about.
I still like that one more than my other one which you picked up from Heritage auction in 2011 at the ANA. Nice having a pair, isn't it ?
Congrats...Jeff... You're knocking them dead !! Great job in completing your Half set in all PCGS. Without looking, I would imagine you must be in the top 6 sets now ?
Nice key date Nickel, Vern. I agree with the grade.
If anyone was looking at the Stacks auction this week, an 1900-O Quarter in an old PCGS Rattler MS 66 CAC - sold for just over $14000.00. I thought it might hit 7K - 8K and I dropped out before it hit those guesses. I fell in love with the coin ... and was tempted to postpone putting a new roof on my home for a year - just to own this baby.
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<< <i>Congrats...Jeff... You're knocking them dead !! Without looking, I would imagine you must be in the top 6 sets now ?q]
My regular Barber set (with MS coins)is in the #6 position. The top sets there are all high end MS (I have only 3 MS halves, all bought raw thinking they might be 58's).
My Everyman Barber set is #4, behind 3 GREAT sets (Don, Darryl, and Ed). My set is at the point where it may stay in the ranking, but I'll continue improving it.
Craig - Pic of your 09-O wasn't there before (at least for me). What a beauty. And I didn't realize you had two in 64. Good coin to have in 64, not many in higher grade.
Mike - I liked that 1900-O at Stack's as well, and for a brief moment considered placing a bid without seeing the coin in hand (something I try not to do on expensive coins). Had no idea it would bring that kind of money. And your 95-O looks even better with those great pics.
Pics for this AM, a couple more nickels, both PC58:
Vern l It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
<< <i>I also sent in a spare '04 O 50C for Guarantee Resubmission:
I bought the coin a few years back to get a graded '04 O. At the time my set had a Details grade '04 O, so this was a step up. It's in a PCGS XF 45 holder. I've been trying to sell it for a while with no interest. I'm uncertain what caused the sharp line of black toning, but it does appear that there's environmental damage lingering under the toning. It seems to me that this coin should never have been place in a graded holder, but it will be interesting to see what the Gods at PCGS say. Does anyone have experience with the Guarantee Resubmission? Are they going to tell me the toning and environmental damage happened post holder? >>
I received this coin back from PCGS in the same holder. There was a handwritten note on the returned submission form stating "The coin is good as-is". I guess no plus for this coin.
I picked up a better date quarter today, net graded AU 50 for dark charcoal toning. No doubt its a 55 or a 58 under all that toning. What to do? What to do?
<< <i>I picked up a better date quarter today, net graded AU 50 for dark charcoal toning. No doubt its a 55 or a 58 under all that toning. What to do? What to do?
Paesan >>
Don't do what I did. A couple of times I acquired dark toned 55 to 62 Barber 50C and dipped them hoping for a pleasant change. It turned into a real mess; I ruined both of them. Fortunately I bought them cheap. I have them sitting in a drawer hoping they may tone back and cover my tracks.....
Jeff - Interesting to get anything handwritten from PCGS. I think I'd leave well enough alone on your spare 04-O. Also, the die gouge almost looks like part of an 'S'.
Paesan - Look forward to hearing about the better date quarter. And I think I've got both the NTT & NTM. Tom Petty, and Animal House.
Pics for this AM, my raw and slabbed 97-O qtrs, PC62:
Vern l It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Thanks for letting us know... I am now quite sick to my stomach. Didn't see the coin being listed - although I was walking the dogs at 5:30 ... I fell back asleep later on until 8:30.
I think I now need another lie-down.
Edit: After the shock of missing out on the 09-O, I forgot to say how much I like your 97-O, Vern. Love the toning !!
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Wow. One of 3. That's news. On eBay of all places. Fair value with respect to the comps in the set with those pops in AU. It's funny to watch a market coalesce around something like this in a 8-10 year slice of time. Like the 04s Half had done as well.
We're all born MS70. I'm about a Fine 15 right now.
<< <i> Justin, Somebody got a good deal on that 09-O. Thanks for posting!
>>
An AU58 for $5200!!! I think the seller certainly got a good deal! >>
Sure did. I remember six or seven years back there were two low MS (but very nice for the grade) 1909-O quarters being sold. I was actually tempted to buy the MS coin, break it out, and wear down the grade slightly to AU58 for the big price jump.
Nowadays, AU55's and MS62-64 are the go to grades for me. The AU58 craze has gone bonkers.
I still think the seller could have gotten a LOT more for that 09-O, especially considering eBay and PayPal fees. That's doesn't mean that I think the coin is worth more than the buyer paid, but the market for AU 09-O quarters is much higher, deservedly or not. Interesting topic to debate!
Paesan
P.S. Mike, I too would have scooped it up! Bummer!!!
This particular 09-O was the only 09-O in PCGS 58 that I had not seen. With a low pop of only three coins in 58, the last one to get a 58 was "Our's" {PAESAN & Labelman87.} I know what the other AU 58 looks like, and I believe it is in strong hands.
My "eyes" { my YN friend, Valente151} says the ebay AU 58 coin was messed with and I missed a bullet. Regarding the price, selling that coin for $5,200 was a fair price. Consider the one at Teaparty for $7500. Granted, I am sure Liz/ Gail dropped the price a little, but it was a consigned coin ( am I correct in assuming that ? ) and they wouldn't budge too much. Missing the bullet or not, I would have hit the buy it now button anyway.
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Thanks, Craig. I've been very fortunate to be the curator of some special 09-O quarters. I sent the 61 for an upgrade when I used to throw money at our host, but it came back 61. I grade 63+, and it's only a dip away from a 64! He-he-he.
I have been admiring the 1897-O Quarter - what a great looking coin.... here is the one from my current set...
.....and, here is the one from my former set...
Doug's 93-O & 93-S are beauties as well....
Here are my examples...
Here's my old 93-S... still looking for the one I have today...
I realized that one of my coins in my Quarter set was in my previous collection - and I repurchased it when I found it - but because its in my All Time Finest Set - I can not register it.
Here is my old & current 1915-S
I found this pristine looking white coin the other day - and it still needs to be professionally imaged...
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Justin - Great look on the half that's now in the Stash.
Mike - Wonderful group of coins (especially the 97-O in 58 which I bought at your 2011 auction).
I had an interesting bit of business with Stacks/Bowers this week, which I put in a seperate thread. It sounds like everything will work out thanks to Brian Kendrella, and this coin will soon be replaced in my collection, PC53:
Vern l It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
The thread is slipping down- time for a post. I received a NGC MS 61 1893 S in the mail today:
The coin is very attractive, but I believe NGC missed the mark on this one. Enlarged I can see definite signs of wear- I don't know if it's detectable in these photos or not. I'm sending it in to PCGS for crossing, setting a 58 as acceptable. I hope it comes through for me!
Another raw pickup that arrived in the mail today, a 1902 O Half:
The coin hasn't been messed with- the surfaces look original. Unfortunately, however, the obverse has a scratch in a spot that's not immediately obvious. Is it obscure enough to allow the coin to grade? I hope so......... Off to PCGS.
Don't get your hopes up... I think the coin will get a Genuine holder ...with a damaged code. Those parallel scratches on the upper OBV are enough to keep it out of a numbered grade. JMHO.
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Paesan - NTT not coming to me (yet). NTM must be one of my favs, "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest". Jack is great.
Jeff - Rev of your 93-S looks MS to me, obv might get you the 58 tho. I think it's luck of the draw on the 02-O. I've seen much worse scratches on coins in graded holders. Good luck.
Pics for this AM, from Paesan's Stash, PC20 and NGC-55:
Vern l It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Jeff, Your 93-S is my favorite coin that you have posted so far. Why try to downgrade it? If it comes back 61 and you don't want it, I may know the perfect place to STASH it!
Vern, Jack is great and what a movie! BTW both those 93-S halves are long gone, but the memory remains!
<< <i>Jeff, Your 93-S is my favorite coin that you have posted so far. Why try to downgrade it? If it comes back 61 and you don't want it, I may know the perfect place to STASH it!q]
Lenny-
Aside that it doesn't look like a MS coin to me (and I like coins in the proper holder), I want a 58 for the Registry set. A 61 isn't very thrilling, but a 58 is. Maybe it will 58+ (kidding)! I do like the look of the coin, so I'll likely keep it no matter.
Comments
Mike - Scott's 93-S may well have been yours.
Dave - Really nice 07-D. Look forward to Central States, it will be here before we know it.
Jeff & Mike - Congrats on the NTT & NTM.
Pics for this AM, haven't posted any of these for quite some time, PC50:
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I am so glad you liked the 09-O I sold you.
If I didn't have a backer, you wouldn't have
seen this coin. I fought off two buyers for it.
My all cash deal won in the end and you got a
coin I can only dream about.
I still like that one more than my other one which
you picked up from Heritage auction in 2011 at the ANA.
Nice having a pair, isn't it ?
Congrats...Jeff... You're knocking them dead !! Great job
in completing your Half set in all PCGS. Without looking,
I would imagine you must be in the top 6 sets now ?
Nice key date Nickel, Vern. I agree with the grade.
If anyone was looking at the Stacks auction this week, an
1900-O Quarter in an old PCGS Rattler MS 66 CAC - sold
for just over $14000.00. I thought it might hit 7K - 8K
and I dropped out before it hit those guesses. I fell in love
with the coin ... and was tempted to postpone putting a new
roof on my home for a year - just to own this baby.
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New Barber Purchases
I am "saving" the 1909-O Quarters for my future retirement!!!!!!
<< <i>Congrats...Jeff... You're knocking them dead !! Without looking,
I would imagine you must be in the top 6 sets now ?q]
My regular Barber set (with MS coins)is in the #6 position. The top sets there are all high end MS (I have only 3 MS halves, all bought raw thinking they might be 58's).
My Everyman Barber set is #4, behind 3 GREAT sets (Don, Darryl, and Ed). My set is at the point where it may stay in the ranking, but I'll continue improving it.
<< <i>Mike,
I am "saving" the 1909-O Quarters for my future retirement!!!!!!
Keep working Old Man, one day, I'll marry your Widow and end up with the 09-O's anyway.
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<< <i>Newp from YN Valente:....
Professional images forthcoming .....courtesy of Valente151 >>
Well... I received the professional images tonight ...
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Mike - I liked that 1900-O at Stack's as well, and for a brief moment considered placing a bid without seeing the coin in hand (something I try not to do on expensive coins). Had no idea it would bring that kind of money. And your 95-O looks even better with those great pics.
Pics for this AM, a couple more nickels, both PC58:
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Next, another FUN raw purchase- a 1908 O 50C that's now in a PCGS AU 55 holder:
These two coins completed my regular Barber set. I'll get a 1909 PCGS AU 58 in the mail this week and the Everyman Barber Half set will be complete.
Pics for this AM, a couple from Doug's quarter collection, PC58 & 55:
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Love both 1893's !! Keep posting them, Vern !!
Jeff,
You called both of those Halves. No doubt in my mind the 08-O would get a 55,
but why not a 55+ ?
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<< <i>I also sent in a spare '04 O 50C for Guarantee Resubmission:
I bought the coin a few years back to get a graded '04 O. At the time my set had a Details grade '04 O, so this was a step up. It's in a PCGS XF 45 holder. I've been trying to sell it for a while with no interest. I'm uncertain what caused the sharp line of black toning, but it does appear that there's environmental damage lingering under the toning. It seems to me that this coin should never have been place in a graded holder, but it will be interesting to see what the Gods at PCGS say. Does anyone have experience with the Guarantee Resubmission? Are they going to tell me the toning and environmental damage happened post holder?
I received this coin back from PCGS in the same holder. There was a handwritten note on the returned submission form stating "The coin is good as-is". I guess no plus for this coin.
I wonder what would happen if I submitted it raw?
I don't see a break in luster on the coin. It's in an older holder; my suspicion it would come back as a 63 if submitted raw.
There's an interesting die break on the "D" on the reverse:
I also received my recent Heritage Auction purchase; a 1897 O 50C PCGS VF 25:
It replaces my F 15; a decent upgrade. At least my set has 2 VF coins at the bottom- I'm happy!
Paesan
<< <i>I picked up a better date quarter today, net graded AU 50 for dark charcoal toning. No doubt its a 55 or a 58 under all that toning. What to do? What to do?
Paesan >>
Don't do what I did. A couple of times I acquired dark toned 55 to 62 Barber 50C and dipped them hoping for a pleasant change. It turned into a real mess; I ruined both of them. Fortunately I bought them cheap. I have them sitting in a drawer hoping they may tone back and cover my tracks.....
Paesan - Look forward to hearing about the better date quarter.
And I think I've got both the NTT & NTM. Tom Petty, and Animal House.
Pics for this AM, my raw and slabbed 97-O qtrs, PC62:
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-O-US-Barber-Silver-Quarter-25C-PCGS-AU58-Full-Strike-Luster-/371256586857?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item56709df269
Justin, Somebody got a good deal on that 09-O. Thanks for posting!
Paesan
Thanks for letting us know... I am now quite sick to my stomach.
Didn't see the coin being listed - although I was walking the dogs
at 5:30 ... I fell back asleep later on until 8:30.
I think I now need another lie-down.
Edit: After the shock of missing out on the 09-O, I forgot to
say how much I like your 97-O, Vern. Love the toning !!
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New Barber Purchases
<< <i>
Justin, Somebody got a good deal on that 09-O. Thanks for posting!
>>
An AU58 for $5200!!! I think the seller certainly got a good deal!
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<< <i>1 of the 58 09-O's came up this morning, but it's gone already.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-O-US-Barber-Silver-Quarter-25C-PCGS-AU58-Full-Strike-Luster-/371256586857?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item56709df269 >>
Wow. One of 3. That's news.
On eBay of all places.
Fair value with respect to the comps in the set with those pops in AU.
It's funny to watch a market coalesce around something like this in a 8-10 year slice of time.
Like the 04s Half had done as well.
<< <i>
<< <i>
Justin, Somebody got a good deal on that 09-O. Thanks for posting!
>>
An AU58 for $5200!!! I think the seller certainly got a good deal!
Sure did. I remember six or seven years back there were two low MS (but very nice for the grade) 1909-O quarters being sold. I was actually tempted to buy the MS coin, break it out, and wear down the grade slightly to AU58 for the big price jump.
Nowadays, AU55's and MS62-64 are the go to grades for me. The AU58 craze has gone bonkers.
Tylers
Paesan
P.S. Mike, I too would have scooped it up! Bummer!!!
Paesan, et al:
This particular 09-O was the only 09-O in PCGS 58 that I had not seen.
With a low pop of only three coins in 58, the last one to get a 58 was
"Our's" {PAESAN & Labelman87.} I know what the other AU 58 looks like,
and I believe it is in strong hands.
My "eyes" { my YN friend, Valente151} says the ebay AU 58 coin was
messed with and I missed a bullet. Regarding the price, selling that coin
for $5,200 was a fair price. Consider the one at Teaparty for $7500.
Granted, I am sure Liz/ Gail dropped the price a little, but it was a consigned
coin ( am I correct in assuming that ? ) and they wouldn't budge too much.
Missing the bullet or not, I would have hit the buy it now button anyway.
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Dipped and retoned? Who knows.
That's a nice AU 09o.
Dennis - That 09-O looked dipped/re-toned to me. Your AU-55, now in Doug's collection is still my favorite AU '09-O.
Tyler - Here is one of those MS 09-O's you mentioned. Now in Paesan's Stash, PC61 (and undergraded IMO).
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Paesan
Here is a half that I really liked. The look in hand is so cool. I believe Lenny currently owns this coin.
Mike Valente sent me a CD he burned for me.
This coin is one of my favorites...
I have been admiring the 1897-O Quarter - what a great looking coin.... here is the one from my current set...
.....and, here is the one from my former set...
Doug's 93-O & 93-S are beauties as well....
Here are my examples...
Here's my old 93-S... still looking for the one I have today...
I realized that one of my coins in my Quarter set was in my previous collection - and I repurchased it when I found it -
but because its in my All Time Finest Set - I can not register it.
Here is my old & current 1915-S
I found this pristine looking white coin the other day - and it still needs to be professionally imaged...
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Mike - Wonderful group of coins (especially the 97-O in 58 which I bought at your 2011 auction).
I had an interesting bit of business with Stacks/Bowers this week, which I put in a seperate thread. It sounds like everything will work out thanks to Brian Kendrella, and this coin will soon be replaced in my collection, PC53:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
l
It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Pics for this AM, a couple from my raw album:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Justin, Thanks for the tip on the Logpotato special!
Paesan
The coin is very attractive, but I believe NGC missed the mark on this one. Enlarged I can see definite signs of wear- I don't know if it's detectable in these photos or not. I'm sending it in to PCGS for crossing, setting a 58 as acceptable. I hope it comes through for me!
The coin hasn't been messed with- the surfaces look original. Unfortunately, however, the obverse has a scratch in a spot that's not immediately obvious. Is it obscure enough to allow the coin to grade? I hope so......... Off to PCGS.
Jeff,
Don't get your hopes up... I think the coin will get a Genuine holder
...with a damaged code. Those parallel scratches on the upper OBV
are enough to keep it out of a numbered grade. JMHO.
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Jeff - Rev of your 93-S looks MS to me, obv might get you the 58 tho. I think it's luck of the draw on the 02-O. I've seen much worse scratches on coins in graded holders. Good luck.
Pics for this AM, from Paesan's Stash, PC20 and NGC-55:
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<< <i>Seriously, though, nice coins. Anybody wanna throw me a dollar value on my '06-O? I'm thinking $50-$75?
My guess is it would grade and your numbers are about right. Nice images!
Vern, Jack is great and what a movie! BTW both those 93-S halves are long gone, but the memory remains!
<< <i>Jeff, Your 93-S is my favorite coin that you have posted so far. Why try to downgrade it? If it comes back 61 and you don't want it, I may know the perfect place to STASH it!q]
Lenny-
Aside that it doesn't look like a MS coin to me (and I like coins in the proper holder), I want a 58 for the Registry set. A 61 isn't very thrilling, but a 58 is. Maybe it will 58+ (kidding)! I do like the look of the coin, so I'll likely keep it no matter.
A 1899 ANACS AU 50:
Even though it's a common date I liked the way this coin looked. I cracked it out and sent it off to our hosts for grading; I think it's a AU 53.
FTB - I'd say your range is right on the 06-O. Neat die crack.
Pics for this AM, still my favorite look of a 58 in my collection:
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<< <i>Pics for this AM, still my favorite look of a 58 in my collection:
Vern- I would have to agree with you; that's exactly hoy I like a 58 to look as well. Unfortunately few of mine look that way.
I'm hoping it will come back as a 55; I thought it had a better chance raw. It's an easy 53, and hopefully a 55.
And kudos to our hosts on the digital album concept. It is user friendly and really looks nice IMO.
Pics for this AM, a couple of bauties from Doug's collection:
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