<< <i>The Baltimore release did not start the First Strike clock, nor the Early Release clock. >>
Didn't know there was a clock trigger. If not this event......what then was the FS date based on? >>
The trigger was the date of first confirmed shipments from the mint fulfillment center Over the counter sales at kiosks and the Balt show did not constitute "shipped". >>
Thanks.
"If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"
. Blah blah blah,........ This USM update only makes things worse. If they would have insured the availability of product, or a reasonable production/resupply scheme, then people wouldn't be pi33ed. For them to blame it on an evasive computer bug Is laughable...... (And I received all my first hour orders)
<< <i>Ya know....all this frustration with shipped vs. backordered and FS date grief could have been eliminated by just waiting until ALL the coins were manufactured, packaged and ready for shipping before the shipping of ANY coins. The Baltimore release would not have started the FS clock and there wouldn't have been the feeling of collector inferiority because they got their order in at 108pm instead of 12:55.... >>
sigh.
The Baltimore release did not start the First Strike clock, nor the Early Release clock.
The mint couldn't (and still doesn't) know how many proofs and uncirculated coins have to be made. Only that a total of 40K Au and 400K Ag will be sold. The mint won't know the true PF/MS split until most of the coins are shipped. (There will be cancellations and returns.) Minting and shipping all the coins at once wouldn't be possible. And seriously, have 100K to 200K boxes stored and shipped all at once? Talking about a clusterfunk waiting to happen... >>
Re: Baltimore release....I said that it did not start the clock...no reason to sigh
Re: 2nd point.....the 2012 San Fran Silver Eagle set was "Mint to demand" for a month. No orders were shipped until the final tally was in (around 250k "boxes stored and shipped" .......................the 2013 West Point Silver Eagle Set..... ditto
No reason they couldn't have taken orders up to the limit and shipped at a later date....no reason at all
<< <i>Ya know....all this frustration with shipped vs. backordered and FS date grief could have been eliminated by just waiting until ALL the coins were manufactured, packaged and ready for shipping before the shipping of ANY coins. The Baltimore release would not have started the FS clock and there wouldn't have been the feeling of collector inferiority because they got their order in at 108pm instead of 12:55.... >>
sigh.
The Baltimore release did not start the First Strike clock, nor the Early Release clock.
The mint couldn't (and still doesn't) know how many proofs and uncirculated coins have to be made. Only that a total of 40K Au and 400K Ag will be sold. The mint won't know the true PF/MS split until most of the coins are shipped. (There will be cancellations and returns.) Minting and shipping all the coins at once wouldn't be possible. And seriously, have 100K to 200K boxes stored and shipped all at once? Talking about a clusterfunk waiting to happen... >>
Re: Baltimore release....I said that it did not start the clock...no reason to sigh
Re: 2nd point.....the 2012 San Fran Silver Eagle set was "Mint to demand" for a month. No orders were shipped until the final tally was in (around 250k "boxes stored and shipped" .......................the 2013 West Point Silver Eagle Set..... ditto
No reason they couldn't have taken orders up to the limit and shipped at a later date....no reason at all >>
I believe, Congressional approval would have been required to change what Congress dictates for commems. That requirement was not needed for the ASE 2012 or 2013 sets.
"Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
<< <i>I believe, Congressional approval would have been required to change what Congress dictates for commems. That requirement was not needed for the ASE 2012 or 2013 sets >>
I didn't think Congress decried that some orders get shipped and some get put into eternal limbo. I would think they are more into the composition, design, quantity and cost issues not the actual delivery of the product. This rests solely on the Mint.....
<< <i>I believe, Congressional approval would have been required to change what Congress dictates for commems. That requirement was not needed for the ASE 2012 or 2013 sets >>
I didn't think Congress decried that some orders get shipped and some get put into eternal limbo. I would think they are more into the composition, design, quantity and cost issues not the actual delivery of the product. This rests solely on the Mint..... >>
True...but your Mint on Demand reference, does require congressional approval.
"Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
<< <i>Ya know....all this frustration with shipped vs. backordered and FS date grief could have been eliminated by just waiting until ALL the coins were manufactured, packaged and ready for shipping before the shipping of ANY coins. The Baltimore release would not have started the FS clock and there wouldn't have been the feeling of collector inferiority because they got their order in at 108pm instead of 12:55.... >>
sigh.
The Baltimore release did not start the First Strike clock, nor the Early Release clock.
The mint couldn't (and still doesn't) know how many proofs and uncirculated coins have to be made. Only that a total of 40K Au and 400K Ag will be sold. The mint won't know the true PF/MS split until most of the coins are shipped. (There will be cancellations and returns.) Minting and shipping all the coins at once wouldn't be possible. And seriously, have 100K to 200K boxes stored and shipped all at once? Talking about a clusterfunk waiting to happen... >>
Re: Baltimore release....I said that it did not start the clock...no reason to sigh >>
Aren't you implying it did?
<< <i>The Baltimore release would not have started the FS clock and there wouldn't have been the feeling of collector inferiority because they got their order in at 108pm instead of 12:55.... >>
<< <i> Re: 2nd point.....the 2012 San Fran Silver Eagle set was "Mint to demand" for a month. No orders were shipped until the final tally was in (around 250k "boxes stored and shipped" .......................the 2013 West Point Silver Eagle Set..... ditto
No reason they couldn't have taken orders up to the limit and shipped at a later date....no reason at all >>
This is untrue. From my order history:
First day sales, 2012 ASE set: Order number: 396xxxxx Order Date: 06/07/2012 at 12:03 PM 2012 AE SILVER 2-COIN SET 3 $149.95 $449.85 3 units shipped on 07/27/2012
Last day sales (or close), 2012 ASE set: Order number: 399xxxxx Order Date: 07/05/2012 at 01:44 AM 2012 AE SILVER 2-COIN SET 2 $149.95 $299.90 2 units shipped on 10/08/2012
First day sales, 2013 ASE set: Order number: 414xxxxx Order Date: 05/09/2013 2013 AM EAGLE SILVER 2-COIN SET (WP) 3 $139.95 $419.85 3 units shipped on 06/28/2013
Last day sales (or close), 2013 ASE set: Order number: 417xxxxx Order Date: 06/06/2013 at 02:14 PM 2013 AM EAGLE SILVER 2-COIN SET (WP) 2 $139.95 $279.90 2 units shipped on 09/12/2013
Note for both sets, if you ordered the last day, it took the mint three months to get the coins to you. They were *not* all boxed and ready to go at one time.
Note that I'm not picking on you, BigA, but as more and more are getting frustrated at the mint over the HOF coins, I'm seeing a lot of... historical inaccuracies...
Well the good news now is that the shipping dates have not changed at all but the bad news is nothing is shipping and the shipping dates are far enough out so they don't have to change them every day.
<< <i>I find it distasteful what seems to be a new trend to create a separate population line for autographs. I simply cannot find a legitimate reason to do so other than profit motive and while profits are fine there can be a point where it goes so far that it hurts the underlying hobby etc. I hope this trend dies off soon. >>
New trend?
When did PCGS start putting out Mercanti labels? I know they had a bunch of Moy $20 UHR's 5 years ago. (Yes, the UHR was 5 years ago.) Probably others... >>
I am not sure when PCGS started listing autographed labels in the populations. I think the labels are alright, in fact I believe I have a couple Buffalo silver commems with a signature but to list them separately in the populations is more about the autographs than the coin in my opinion.
Gold and silver are valuable but wisdom is priceless.
Grades just posted they have been in since 4/15 I'm kind of bummed out but at least I got a couple of each 19% 70's 1 1 29794240 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC 1 2 29794241 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC 1 3 29794242 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC 1 4 29794243 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC 1 5 29794244 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC 1 6 29794245 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR70DC 1 7 29794246 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC 1 8 29794247 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC 1 9 29794248 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC 1 10 29794249 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR70DC 1 11 29794250 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC 2 1 29794251 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69 2 2 29794252 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69 2 3 29794253 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS70 2 4 29794254 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69 2 5 29794255 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69 2 6 29794256 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69 2 7 29794257 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS70 2 8 29794258 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69 2 9 29794259 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69 2 10 29794260 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69
<< <i>Grades just posted they have been in since 4/15 I'm kind of bummed out but at least I got a couple of each 19% 70's 1 1 29794240 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC 1 2 29794241 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC 1 3 29794242 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC 1 4 29794243 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC 1 5 29794244 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC 1 6 29794245 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR70DC 1 7 29794246 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC 1 8 29794247 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC 1 9 29794248 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC 1 10 29794249 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR70DC 1 11 29794250 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC 2 1 29794251 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69 2 2 29794252 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69 2 3 29794253 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS70 2 4 29794254 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69 2 5 29794255 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69 2 6 29794256 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69 2 7 29794257 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS70 2 8 29794258 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69 2 9 29794259 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69 2 10 29794260 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69 >>
That's a 5 business day turn around time...that's amazing...your grades not so.
I got 2 out of 5 PR70 Gold HOF Proofs.....also below average.
Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade 1 1 29882602 525649 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS70 2 1 29882603 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC 2 2 29882604 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC 2 3 29882605 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC 2 4 29882606 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC
I knew the MS would 70, I thought at least one proof would and one proof had three 1.5 cm scuff marks that I though assured a low ball grade of 67 or maybe even 66. There is no way anyone looked closely at the lowball prospect!
1 1 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69 1 2 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69 1 3 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS70 2 1 525860 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR70DC 2 2 525860 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR70DC 2 3 525860 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR70DC 3 1 525649 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69 3 2 525649 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69 3 3 525649 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69 4 1 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR70DC 4 2 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR70DC 4 3 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC Total Items: 12
So I need another PCGS FS $5 in MS70, who needs a PR70?
Using current eBay prices for raw coins and considering the low % of 70s reported here, it looks like a better idea to sell the HOF raw on eBay right now while the prices are high. The tough choice is for those that want 70s for their collection and still have sealed boxes. In that case probably better to grade the coins and hope for a decent % of 70s (be sure to request getting the capsules and OGP back) I'd decide once the coins were back if I was selling 69s or coins back in their OGP. I got 3/5 proof$5 , 0/2 unc $5 and 4/5 proof $1 back as PCGS 70s
Goldbully - Thanks for posting the PCGS population reports. There's lots of data and many thoughts.
Here are some thoughts:
1. PCGS might be in the peak of its grading of HOF Baseball coins. Previous posts noted that their grading took about a month and the latest posts suggest that the grading time has decreased to 3 weeks.
2. In any event, we can expect that the First Strike populations to grow until about mid to late June when the rush to meet the May 6th First Strike deadline is processed. That would leave only those HOF coins "entombed" in sealed boxes left to grade.
3. I continue to believe that the First Strike label is the most valuable label since it clearly marks the delineation of the original mintage and the subsequent mintage.
4. The grading percentage of 70's has been awesome. (apologies to some recent posts.) The percentages are like what one might expect of a presentation striking. Since this was a first time striking a curved coin, perhaps the US Mint took great care to strike them. We have criticized their shipping problems but maybe we should compliment the US Mint on the quality of the HOF coins (except for the clad coins.)
5. The population increase has lowered the market price of the HOF silver dollars. See those offered by moderncoinmart.
6. Since I am waiting for my HOF silver dollar coins (early August) , I can only hope that the condition is as good as it has been for these First Strikes or original strikes.
Bravo Gold bully for your posting of the population reports.
The biggest increase in total graded coins by type came for the PF $1 silver with 1,544 followed by the MS $1 at 544. Larges single coin increase by grade was again the PF $1 at 855.
I see my MS 68 $5 got counted as that grade went from 1 to 2 population.
Any movement with silver? Mine remains at 6/12 shipping.
Early morning gold purchases of 3/28 0055hrs remain poised at 6/30 shipping date.
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<< <i>Any movement with silver? Mine remains at 6/12 shipping.
Early morning gold purchases of 3/28 0055hrs remain poised at 6/30 shipping date. >>
My last order was shipped last week same time 3:21 This one 2014 BASEBALL HOF SILVER UNC 10- $47.95 $479.50 10 units shipped on 05/20/2014 But have 35 more for the 6/12 date as well. I'll just hang lose and let it happen.
<< <i>My 3:21 orders are In stock and reserved lets see when they ship. I waited this long whats a week or two more happy to see them moving along. >>
My silver were "In stock and reserved" for 10 days before they shipped. I don't think the gold will be that long..........I hope. Seems my orders ALWAYS "ship" on Thursdays (actually just a label is created, they pick them up on Friday) which totally voids the 2nd day Air thingy
Chalk that one up to the mint too. They delayed shipment long enough for the credit card people to screw up the transaction. I hope it straightens out ok for you. How many more of these things will we see before this fiasco is over with.
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<< <i>
<< <i>sigh. >>
<< <i>The Baltimore release did not start the First Strike clock, nor the Early Release clock. >>
Didn't know there was a clock trigger. If not this event......what then was the FS date based on? >>
The trigger was the date of first confirmed shipments from the mint fulfillment center
Over the counter sales at kiosks and the Balt show did not constitute "shipped". >>
"If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"
My Washington Quarter Registry set...in progress
<< <i>UPDATE FROM THE MINT:
USM- “For those customers who
. Blah blah blah,........ This USM update only makes things worse.
If they would have insured the availability of product, or a reasonable production/resupply
scheme, then people wouldn't be pi33ed. For them to blame it on an evasive computer bug
Is laughable...... (And I received all my first hour orders)
(l8-)>>
<< <i>
<< <i>Ya know....all this frustration with shipped vs. backordered and FS date grief could have been eliminated by just waiting until ALL the coins were manufactured, packaged and ready for shipping before the shipping of ANY coins. The Baltimore release would not have started the FS clock and there wouldn't have been the feeling of collector inferiority because they got their order in at 108pm instead of 12:55.... >>
sigh.
The Baltimore release did not start the First Strike clock, nor the Early Release clock.
The mint couldn't (and still doesn't) know how many proofs and uncirculated coins have to be made. Only that a total of 40K Au and 400K Ag will be sold. The mint won't know the true PF/MS split until most of the coins are shipped. (There will be cancellations and returns.) Minting and shipping all the coins at once wouldn't be possible. And seriously, have 100K to 200K boxes stored and shipped all at once? Talking about a clusterfunk waiting to happen... >>
Re: Baltimore release....I said that it did not start the clock...no reason to sigh
Re: 2nd point.....the 2012 San Fran Silver Eagle set was "Mint to demand" for a month. No orders were shipped until the final tally was in (around 250k "boxes stored and shipped"
.......................the 2013 West Point Silver Eagle Set..... ditto
No reason they couldn't have taken orders up to the limit and shipped at a later date....no reason at all
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>Ya know....all this frustration with shipped vs. backordered and FS date grief could have been eliminated by just waiting until ALL the coins were manufactured, packaged and ready for shipping before the shipping of ANY coins. The Baltimore release would not have started the FS clock and there wouldn't have been the feeling of collector inferiority because they got their order in at 108pm instead of 12:55.... >>
sigh.
The Baltimore release did not start the First Strike clock, nor the Early Release clock.
The mint couldn't (and still doesn't) know how many proofs and uncirculated coins have to be made. Only that a total of 40K Au and 400K Ag will be sold. The mint won't know the true PF/MS split until most of the coins are shipped. (There will be cancellations and returns.) Minting and shipping all the coins at once wouldn't be possible. And seriously, have 100K to 200K boxes stored and shipped all at once? Talking about a clusterfunk waiting to happen... >>
Re: Baltimore release....I said that it did not start the clock...no reason to sigh
Re: 2nd point.....the 2012 San Fran Silver Eagle set was "Mint to demand" for a month. No orders were shipped until the final tally was in (around 250k "boxes stored and shipped"
.......................the 2013 West Point Silver Eagle Set..... ditto
No reason they couldn't have taken orders up to the limit and shipped at a later date....no reason at all >>
I believe, Congressional approval would have been required to change what Congress dictates for commems. That requirement was not needed for the ASE 2012 or 2013 sets.
<< <i>I believe, Congressional approval would have been required to change what Congress dictates for commems. That requirement was not needed for the ASE 2012 or 2013 sets >>
I didn't think Congress decried that some orders get shipped and some get put into eternal limbo. I would think they are more into the composition, design, quantity and cost issues not the actual delivery of the product. This rests solely on the Mint.....
<< <i>
<< <i>I believe, Congressional approval would have been required to change what Congress dictates for commems. That requirement was not needed for the ASE 2012 or 2013 sets >>
I didn't think Congress decried that some orders get shipped and some get put into eternal limbo. I would think they are more into the composition, design, quantity and cost issues not the actual delivery of the product. This rests solely on the Mint..... >>
True...but your Mint on Demand reference, does require congressional approval.
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>Ya know....all this frustration with shipped vs. backordered and FS date grief could have been eliminated by just waiting until ALL the coins were manufactured, packaged and ready for shipping before the shipping of ANY coins. The Baltimore release would not have started the FS clock and there wouldn't have been the feeling of collector inferiority because they got their order in at 108pm instead of 12:55.... >>
sigh.
The Baltimore release did not start the First Strike clock, nor the Early Release clock.
The mint couldn't (and still doesn't) know how many proofs and uncirculated coins have to be made. Only that a total of 40K Au and 400K Ag will be sold. The mint won't know the true PF/MS split until most of the coins are shipped. (There will be cancellations and returns.) Minting and shipping all the coins at once wouldn't be possible. And seriously, have 100K to 200K boxes stored and shipped all at once? Talking about a clusterfunk waiting to happen... >>
Re: Baltimore release....I said that it did not start the clock...no reason to sigh >>
Aren't you implying it did?
<< <i>The Baltimore release would not have started the FS clock and there wouldn't have been the feeling of collector inferiority because they got their order in at 108pm instead of 12:55.... >>
<< <i>
Re: 2nd point.....the 2012 San Fran Silver Eagle set was "Mint to demand" for a month. No orders were shipped until the final tally was in (around 250k "boxes stored and shipped"
.......................the 2013 West Point Silver Eagle Set..... ditto
No reason they couldn't have taken orders up to the limit and shipped at a later date....no reason at all >>
This is untrue. From my order history:
First day sales, 2012 ASE set:
Order number: 396xxxxx
Order Date: 06/07/2012 at 12:03 PM
2012 AE SILVER 2-COIN SET 3 $149.95 $449.85 3 units shipped on 07/27/2012
Last day sales (or close), 2012 ASE set:
Order number: 399xxxxx
Order Date: 07/05/2012 at 01:44 AM
2012 AE SILVER 2-COIN SET 2 $149.95 $299.90 2 units shipped on 10/08/2012
First day sales, 2013 ASE set:
Order number: 414xxxxx
Order Date: 05/09/2013
2013 AM EAGLE SILVER 2-COIN SET (WP) 3 $139.95 $419.85 3 units shipped on 06/28/2013
Last day sales (or close), 2013 ASE set:
Order number: 417xxxxx
Order Date: 06/06/2013 at 02:14 PM
2013 AM EAGLE SILVER 2-COIN SET (WP) 2 $139.95 $279.90 2 units shipped on 09/12/2013
Note for both sets, if you ordered the last day, it took the mint three months to get the coins to you. They were *not* all boxed and ready to go at one time.
Note that I'm not picking on you, BigA, but as more and more are getting frustrated at the mint over the HOF coins, I'm seeing a lot of... historical inaccuracies...
<< <i>
<< <i>I find it distasteful what seems to be a new trend to create a separate population line for autographs. I simply cannot find a legitimate reason to do so other than profit motive and while profits are fine there can be a point where it goes so far that it hurts the underlying hobby etc. I hope this trend dies off soon. >>
New trend?
When did PCGS start putting out Mercanti labels? I know they had a bunch of Moy $20 UHR's 5 years ago. (Yes, the UHR was 5 years ago.) Probably others... >>
I am not sure when PCGS started listing autographed labels in the populations. I think the labels are alright, in fact I believe I have a couple Buffalo silver commems with a signature but to list them separately in the populations is more about the autographs than the coin in my opinion.
1 1 29794240 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC
1 2 29794241 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC
1 3 29794242 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC
1 4 29794243 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC
1 5 29794244 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC
1 6 29794245 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR70DC
1 7 29794246 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC
1 8 29794247 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC
1 9 29794248 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC
1 10 29794249 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR70DC
1 11 29794250 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC
2 1 29794251 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69
2 2 29794252 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69
2 3 29794253 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS70
2 4 29794254 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69
2 5 29794255 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69
2 6 29794256 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69
2 7 29794257 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS70
2 8 29794258 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69
2 9 29794259 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69
2 10 29794260 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69
<< <i>Grades just posted they have been in since 4/15 I'm kind of bummed out but at least I got a couple of each
1 1 29794240 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC
1 2 29794241 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC
1 3 29794242 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC
1 4 29794243 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC
1 5 29794244 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC
1 6 29794245 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR70DC
1 7 29794246 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC
1 8 29794247 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC
1 9 29794248 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC
1 10 29794249 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR70DC
1 11 29794250 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC
2 1 29794251 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69
2 2 29794252 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69
2 3 29794253 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS70
2 4 29794254 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69
2 5 29794255 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69
2 6 29794256 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69
2 7 29794257 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS70
2 8 29794258 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69
2 9 29794259 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69
2 10 29794260 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69 >>
That's a 5 business day turn around time...that's amazing...your grades not so.
I got 2 out of 5 PR70 Gold HOF Proofs.....also below average.
<< <i>actually 27 business days
Did I say 5 days or daze?
<< <i>A new order management system is expected to be operational later this year, but no specific date is available at this time. >>
What good is that if you don't have the product to ship which is the real problem.
Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade
1 1 29882602 525649 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS70
2 1 29882603 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC
2 2 29882604 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC
2 3 29882605 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC
2 4 29882606 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC
I knew the MS would 70, I thought at least one proof would and one proof had three 1.5 cm scuff marks that I though assured a low ball grade of 67 or maybe even 66. There is no way anyone looked closely at the lowball prospect!
Unbelievable.
1 2 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69
1 3 525857 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS70
2 1 525860 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR70DC
2 2 525860 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR70DC
2 3 525860 2014-W $5 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR70DC
3 1 525649 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69
3 2 525649 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69
3 3 525649 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA MS69
4 1 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR70DC
4 2 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR70DC
4 3 525650 2014-P $1 Baseball Hall of Fame USA PR69DC
Total Items: 12
So I need another PCGS FS $5 in MS70, who needs a PR70?
6 out of 25 were 70s (Silver Proofs...ouch!)
19 PR69s!!! WTF over?
At least my NGC UHR MS70 PL crossed!!!
ps...
Anyone wanna buy a Silver Proof 69???
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<< <i>Actually that is a rate of 24% 70's still nothing to brag about but better than 19%. At least we got coins
Isn't this to be expected? Sure, I would love to have all my submission of moderns come back 70. But a 20% success rate ensures premiums for 70's.
Shipped back today.....2 69PRDC and 1 MS69. All FS
I got 3/5 proof$5 , 0/2 unc $5 and 4/5 proof $1 back as PCGS 70s
I'll let you guys make head and tails of it.
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No matter what you think, the numbers do not lie. While many got few or no coins, a few got many coins.
Here are some thoughts:
1. PCGS might be in the peak of its grading of HOF Baseball coins. Previous posts noted that their grading took about a month and the latest posts suggest that the grading time has decreased to 3 weeks.
2. In any event, we can expect that the First Strike populations to grow until about mid to late June when the rush to meet the May 6th First Strike deadline is processed. That would leave only those HOF coins "entombed" in sealed boxes left to grade.
3. I continue to believe that the First Strike label is the most valuable label since it clearly marks the delineation of the original mintage and the subsequent mintage.
4. The grading percentage of 70's has been awesome. (apologies to some recent posts.) The percentages are like what one might expect of a presentation striking. Since this was a first time striking a curved coin, perhaps the US Mint took great care to strike them. We have criticized their shipping problems but maybe we should compliment the US Mint on the quality of the HOF coins (except for the clad coins.)
5. The population increase has lowered the market price of the HOF silver dollars. See those offered by moderncoinmart.
6. Since I am waiting for my HOF silver dollar coins (early August) , I can only hope that the condition is as good as it has been for these First Strikes or original strikes.
The biggest increase in total graded coins by type came for the PF $1 silver with 1,544 followed by the MS $1 at 544. Larges single coin increase by grade was again the PF $1 at 855.
I see my MS 68 $5 got counted as that grade went from 1 to 2 population.
I agree with ebizgobro's observations.
<< <i> While many got few or no coins, a few got many coins. >>
I hear ya brother, talk about it.....
Hot Dang, I'm glad for you Pitboss !!
<< <i>Time frame for my 6 orders of gold which just went to In stock and reserved are from 1:16 to 1:45 if that is any help to you guys. >>
Same here, 1+30. Let the flipping flood begin....
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<< <i>Time frame for my 6 orders of gold which just went to In stock and reserved are from 1:16 to 1:45 if that is any help to you guys. >>
Same here, 1+30. Let the flipping flood begin.... >>
209pm are in stock and reserved
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<< <i>My gold order 42937--- placed at 2:50 is in stock and reserved. Looks like they are moving up the order mountain finally. >>
I wonder if they will climb up to my 455p order.....
In stock and reserved.
Looks like the shipping wheel finally landed on gold.
Hoard the keys.
Early morning gold purchases of 3/28 0055hrs remain poised at 6/30 shipping date.
They missed the best flip in years and are angry."
Yeah, some who repeatedly cursed the Mint here for delayed shipping now seem to be the first to flip offering in stock and reserved pre sales!
Now we know why they were so upset and vocal.
<< <i>Any movement with silver? Mine remains at 6/12 shipping.
Early morning gold purchases of 3/28 0055hrs remain poised at 6/30 shipping date. >>
My last order was shipped last week same time 3:21 This one
2014 BASEBALL HOF SILVER UNC 10- $47.95 $479.50 10 units shipped on 05/20/2014 But have 35 more for the 6/12 date as well. I'll just hang lose and let it happen.
Hoard the keys.
<< <i>My 3:21 orders are In stock and reserved lets see when they ship. I waited this long whats a week or two more happy to see them moving along.
My silver were "In stock and reserved" for 10 days before they shipped. I don't think the gold will be that long..........I hope. Seems my orders ALWAYS "ship" on Thursdays (actually just a label is created, they pick them up on Friday) which totally voids the 2nd day Air thingy
Checked my order which was in stock and reserved but status said on hold. Called customer service and it was credit card problem.
Last week my credit card was hacked and the bank alerted me and cancelled the card. Over the weekend I changed
cards on the mint site, however that was not enough. The CSR was verry helpful and said existing orders had to have
a manual correction by the customer service dept. They were trying to charge old card and it was declined. She said it was ready
to ship and to watch for UPS tracking #. I hope this does not delay my shipping.
They delayed shipment long enough for the credit card people to screw up the transaction.
I hope it straightens out ok for you.
How many more of these things will we see before this fiasco is over with.
Didn't know those guys were out lurking and buying at full retail? Kind of strange.
Is the price headed North? Is anyone aware of something we are not? Errors?
<< <i>Sold a proof 70 gold $5 on ebay for the going price - noticed the buyer was a very prominent coin/bullion dealer....
Didn't know those guys were out lurking and buying at full retail? Kind of strange.
Is the price headed North? Is anyone aware of something we are not? Errors? >>
What was the going price?