Here are a few of the 1905-O's I have owned - Justin posted one that had bought last year - and when I upgraded it to a XF 45 - I promised him he could have it. I am hunting for the VF 35 that I sold Leon { Shorecoll} ....
Here's a coin I bought raw from Walkerguy21D two years ago at FUN ....
This is another one that I had in a set which I sold some time ago. My current set has an XF 45 in it... Images seem to be misfiled... 🙀... No... Sorry, no images of this coin
In this case, Replaced doesn't mean sold... "Disclaimer"...LOL
Here is another 1905-O - in a PCGS 35 [ Courtesy of Darrell ]
Here is the VF 35 I sold Shorecoll [Leon] ....
I also found the above coin on Heritage's site - so here are their scans...(reverse scan is incorrect)
Now... I know I have others kicking around... let me do some digging...
This was a really hard coin to find - it was one of the nicest AU 58's I had ever seen. I do not know why the images are so small.
Of course... my newp from the other day....{ I actually forgot which file I put it in - as I have had a few sets with mixed grades... MS & AU etc.
The VF 25 I sold Justin...
There are others - I just can't find them ... yet...
Oh, yeah, the one I sold Cary a few years ago... I wished I never sold it ... its the epitome of an XF [ even if it was an AU 50 on the insert ]...
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Mike, I'm curious about that XF-40 tooled coin. I see a few obverse hairlines, but it looks AU-55 quality and well struck. What was the problem with it?
Darrell - 3 times and your '05 didn't make 40? That's criminal.
Paesan - Have you noticed your coins in the seated thread?
Mike - I, too, am interested in what was tooled. Obv looks hairlined, but I've seen worse in graded holders. What was tooled? Really good looking 40 you had, but your 58 was something special. I remember that coin from your August 2011 auction. It was as nice as any 58 I've ever seen of any date. A friend was the underbidder, at what at that time was an amazing amount. I wonder who has it now? And the XF/AU you sold Cary was choice as well..
Pics for this AM, Scott's newp 05-O qtr (that I had forgotten about when I was posting 05-O qtrs earlier), PC62:
Vern l It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
I had a few months to examine the 05-O when I first bought it, I was hoping on the off chance, the hairlines ( looks more like random graffiti ) would be the only cause for a Details Only coin. Yes, IMHO, the coin is clearly an AU 55 detail coin.
I am thinking the XF Detail designation is strictly for net grading purposes, and to equate some form of value on it. The Reverse is virtually mark free, and I would say it's as nice as any 55 I have seen.
The Tooling that PCGS mentions is nowhere to be found. I however, do not have a stereo microscope as most TPG's have for through detail inspection. My 7X loop is the best I own, and I still do not see any signs of tooling. The coin is currently with Glenn Holsonbake and is available; he and I just substantially reduced the price.
For what ever reason, I did not see the images of the current 1905-O I have in my latest set. The MS 63 was never intended to reside in this set, but belongs in my meager collection of MS Halves, keeping company with my 1898 in 65, 1900 in 62, & 1901 in 64+ (ex: NGC 65 ⭐️ ). The 1898 is currently with Glenn on consignment. Don't let the 62 grade fool you, it's a knock out looking coin and compares favorably with the Queller 1901 ( my absolute favorite Barber, "bar-none" ).
As I have been concentrating on BQ's as of late, the 43 coin submission to CAC only contains Quarters. Again, once I get these coins back, my plans are to have them imaged. Once imaged, they will be posted.
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You attached pics of the 05-O you sold me to a PM on here, so you should have them there. Of course they're not the best pics you ever took, but they worked for me. Date was in 2010.
Well, the eBay search for "PCGS barber" has reached 2000 listings. Only 76 are auction style and of those only about 20 are true auctions. I find myself going there much less frequently for my coin searches.
I wouldn't limit myself to PCGS (Barber) .. I might do that as one search ..Some of the best deals are either categorized incorrectly or key words (like PCGS) are left out by the (casual) seller
Searching all categories and using a variety of search methods can yield some juicy results .. Of course it is still very infrequent to find anything worth buying or bidding on.
I looked at the description from Glenn's web site, and he said that from what he can see, it looks as if someone smoothed the Obverse to mask some scratches or graffiti. Tooling can mean more than re engraving, which is what most people take it to mean, myself included.
The only explanation I have for the XF designation is it has got to be a net grade pertaining to a value. The coin is obviously an AU 55 details coin, IMHO.
I added the 05-O in PCGS 35 that I sold to Shorecoll, and did a search on Heritage and found the listing for the same coin. My old notes mentioned I had bought the coin on eBay after the Heritage auction.
Another file turned up on my lap top, that I had long forgotten about. It seemed that a few years ago, after I had a tune up ( what ever it's called in the IT world ) on the Lap Top, they backed up my images (as requested) and a separate file exists with loads of goodies. It seems I had a duplicate 1905-O Half in PCGS 58, that I bought from Heritage, and a few months later, purchased another I liked more. The first 58 was blast white from more than one dipping. Will add images later.
We needn't discuss all the other circulated 05-O's I have owned and eventually sold. All of which were in VG 10 to VF 25. Don't know how often I have tried to replicate my old college collection; most of the coins were VG 10 to VF 35, and housed in a Whitman Bookshelf Album. My first set was a real labor of love and I started it in 1968. For years, it remained just that, on a bookshelf, as I never found the last key date, 1896-O until 1973. Two years later, that set and my coin collection were sold to Bowers and Ruddy.
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The Heritage PCGS AU58 1909-O quarter is currently at $4400, very surprising. Has some pretty significant scratches on the obverse. I'll be curious to see if it looks better in hand when I view it in person Wed. at Central States in Chicago. How high will it go?
Rest assured, it's not MFH who is buying that 09-O in 58. I am leaning towards a couple of other dates, that a friend....... ( Thank you again, Friend ...) is previewing for me.
I also spotted an attractive MS 66+ V Nickel for my MS set. Now, that's a set that is usually overlooked. I should pay closer attention to it. But it's complete in at least AU 55-58. More than half the dates are duplicated in MS. I shudder when looking at many of the prices realized on the earlier dates, not just the key dates !!
With the upcoming sale of Eugene Gardner's collection in June (?) of Part 1, I wonder what this sale will consist of. There seems to be no inference as to what it will contain. If Heritage ever decided to print a hard cover book with all of Gene's images ( not their scans ), I know I would be happy to buy a copy. Anyone ever just click onto any of his sets ATS and spend some time just looking and drooling ? That's why I like my iPad, it wipes off easily. An "Ultrasuede" Microfiber cloth does a great job removing finger prints from the screen. ( Just an FYI )
I wish Gene all the best in his auctions. He has an amazing collection. As nice if not nicer than most I have seen.
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No I decided not to come. Had a friend with good eye's preview three coins for me, 2 I am not bidding on, one I am(not eh 09-o), that was for a friend, which he is not.
I too, am waiting anxiously for gardner , hoping I have enough funds to buy 1 or 2 coins.
Interesting to see the AU58 at well over $4k so far... will be even more interesting to see where it ends.
If it goes too much higher I'm going to have to crack out my PCGS MS64 example and try to make it an AU58 since we all know the MS64 is only worth $4800 in the PCGS Price Guide ($4000 in the latest Greysheet)...
Wonder if PCGS will finally bump the Guide prices on this coin to the current market??? They still have the AU58 at $1075!!!
Edited to add a pic of my 1909-O in MS64 since I haven't posted it in awhile...
Michael - Your 09-O is a sweet looking coin .. Really attractive and wholesome looking
We all know price guides are all over the place, and auctions are fickle and can be equally misleading when trying to interpret prices... not just for Barbers but pretty much most classic coins. PCGS price guide shows a 1907-S quarter in AU58 at $350 .. I know mine cost me 6x that. Of course, I am just plain old crazy anyway
I believe pricing is 90% a matter of timing combined with the quality of the coin - who is buying, when are they buying, who else is interested and how nice (or how desirable) is the coin. Sometimes it may not matter how nice it is if the coin is prohibitively rare (not using the 09-O as an example as it is not rare enough), the quality of the coin is only a secondary factor.
Price guides on the 09-O quarter and many other dates are completely out of touch with reality. Greysheet, Coin Trends, Numismedia, PCGS Price Guide, Redbook, you name it they are all so far off.
Sorry to Vern and Doug and others who have contacted me about Central States. Not going this year but going to be in Santa Clara instead. Purely an economic decision on my part. Sharing the table with Todd and Roger there.
It would cost me about $1800 with all expenses to go and have an 8' table, by myself at Central States, and this show has been in slow but steady decline, particularly when they moved it to Schaumberg, which has a lot of additional costs such as $50 each way taxi, stuck at the Hotel with no realistic other eating options aside from the Hotel unless you have a car, etc.
The cost for me to do the Santa Clara show which is steadily improving since Portsmouth Square resurrected it and restarted it is about $650.
It would take about $15K-$17K to break even at Central States, while $5K will cover SC. When I have done each of these shows, because I have more local following and no other reason, I sell about the same at both shows, somewhere around $15K-$20K.
I love to see my customers in the midwest and look forward to seeing them in August at the ANA, but the economics are what they are. I hope everyone has a successful show there and I expect to have a good one in Santa Clara.
Glenn, Always like when you chime in. Totally agree with you on price guides. The disclaimer on them should be "For entertainment only!" Also, seems like a no-brainer to stay close to home and I'm sure nobody will hold it against you. I'll bet FUN is an even bigger expense.
illini420 - That is a beautiful 09-O, thanks for posting.
Mark - Your guess on what the AU58 09-O would bring was much closer than mine. I thought it looked better in hand than it did in the pics. Wonder if the new owner is a forum member or reader.
Glenn - Makes good sense to me, look forward to seeing you at ANA in August.
Thoroughly enjoying Central States. Met up with several collector friends and saw some wonderful coins at the after hours get togethers. Didn't get anything at the auctions, but was fortunate to secure nice VF 13-S and AU 15-S qtrs on the floor. Pics to follow in a day or two.
For this AM, Scott's raw newp of 3-4 months, now PC58:
Vern l It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Pics for this AM, my newps from Central States, NGC-25 and PC53:
Also acquired a tough capped bust dime, but that will have to be for another thread. The show was very good for me, but the best part was the evening get togethers. There were four of us on Wednesday which focused on barbers, and eight on Thursday with an amazing display of Indian Cents. What a great hobby.
Vern l It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
I was able to hold off attacks against three of four of my bids.
I will be having these coins imaged by Messydesk once my last CAC submission returns.
My newps: All Quarters: 1895-O PCGS 58 CAC, 1896-O PCGS 55, & 1911-S PCGS 58 CAC.
Heritage images to follow.
Last week, I was fortunate enough to add two more Quarters to my set: 1908-Phila and 1914-D - both PCGS 58. ( Non CAC ). I do not have any images of any sort for these two coins, yet.
I am not sure if I posted my newp from last month - an 1897-O Quarter PCGS 55
I will get the Non CAC material off to New Jersey ASAP before I send them off to be imaged.
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But I finally did a 1st and sent 3 in for crossover! I hope I am not jinxing myself by spilling the beans before I have the coins in hand!
1898-S Old ANACS 58 crossed to 58! YES! YES! YES! 1910 NGC 58 crossed to 58 Nice replacement for the coin in my set. 1911-D NGC 58 crossed to 58 worth a few more dollars now!
I guess I can't say I haven't made a 58 now and beat the 32% crossover odds bigtime!
Vern that 13-S Quarter looks perfect. What a sweet find. Does anyone know who won the 13-S PC-30 from the Great Collections sale 2 weeks ago? I was 2nd under-bidder
The only coin I won from the recent Heritage auctions were the 1895-P Quarter in PC63. Appears to have nice skin and an original look .. went lower than I expected at $325+ + Some of those AU55/58 quarters went 300-500% over what I forecasted .. Glad I was far away from the militia
To those who went to CS - hope you had an enjoyable experience and saw old friends and maybe even found a newp or two
Mike and Scott, Congrats on your Barber wins. The only one I went after was taken at the live auction, but I did take two seated libs, an 1880 in 65 and the 69-S VF 35.
Thanks to all for the positive words on the 13-S in 25. There's an interesting story behind it. It came into the dealer's shop (who I bought it from) in an old Whitman blue folder, along with six other blue folders, all were partial sets with most holes empty. Virtually all the other coins in this group were low enough value to be just worth melt, except for this 13-S. The seller was 98 years old and the coins belonged to her husband who had passed away over 50 years ago. The dealer, who I've known for a long time and is a very good guy in my estimation, was as surprised as the seller at the find. The coin just came back from NGC before Central States, so I was lucky it hadn't been on the circuit long.
Mike - Congrats on the 3 wins from HA, and the 97-O from previous. Nice looking coins. And judging from the slab numbers, all from the same PCGS submission.
Darrell - Congrats on batting 1000 in the crossover game.
Scott & Paesan - Nice takedowns from the HA auction.
Pics for this AM, from Scott's collection, PC58:
Vern l It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Verne...sorry...I meant to say that is a sweet 13-S quarter! I doubt you could find a nicer example for the grade!
Scott....nice 96-O quarter. The way you are heading with the quarters I hope you and Verne don't start battling for the 1901-S quarter in AU that doesn't seem to exist!
<< <i>Wonder who won the 1901-O half in PC45, that sold Saturday thru Heritage. Sold for $1800 plus the vig. Was a really nice, original rare coin IMO. >>
Agreed from an online viewing perspective. Even the Heritage photo's couldn't hide the undisturbed surfaces of that coin. I don't follow XF's that much, but I bet you don't see many XF 01-O's like that.
Well, tonight after work my wife is dragging me to see Bruce Springsteen run around the stage and mumble lyrics for three and a half hours. I guess if I get that seat next to Courtney Cox it won't be too bad.
<< <i>Wonder who won the 1901-O half in PC45, that sold Saturday thru Heritage. Sold for $1800 plus the vig. Was a really nice, original rare coin IMO. >>
Agreed from an online viewing perspective. Even the Heritage photo's couldn't hide the undisturbed surfaces of that coin. I don't follow XF's that much, but I bet you don't see many XF 01-O's like that. >>
I never looked at that 01-O Half in 45, as I have a really nice one in PC 45 - I am pleased to hear what the one on HA sold for ($2115 with the juice ). Guess it's about time I compared mine with the one that just sold.
Edit: I can't image coins, pure and simple. I have so many that I want images of, I'll go broke with the fees and hard copies. I am concentrating of getting the Quarters completely imaged by Summer. I never expect to finish the set itself. I am down to the really tough dates, aside from the Big Three.
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Bruce is a high energy show .. people seldom leave disappointed 64 yrs old and going strong ... 4 or 5 band members lost over the years, none bigger than C.C. and the E Street Band didn't skip a beat (No pun intended .. well maybe it was
Mike - meant to say congrats on your recent Heritage bids .. Very nice !
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Darrell, looks XF all day long to my untrained eye.
Paesan
I am hunting for the VF 35 that I sold Leon { Shorecoll} ....
Here's a coin I bought raw from Walkerguy21D two years ago at FUN ....
This is another one that I had in a set which I sold some time ago.
My current set has an XF 45 in it... Images seem to be misfiled... 🙀... No... Sorry, no images of this coin
In this case, Replaced doesn't mean sold... "Disclaimer"...LOL
Here is another 1905-O - in a PCGS 35 [ Courtesy of Darrell ]
Here is the VF 35 I sold Shorecoll [Leon] ....
I also found the above coin on Heritage's site - so here are their scans...(reverse scan is incorrect)
Now... I know I have others kicking around... let me do some digging...
This was a really hard coin to find - it was one of the nicest AU 58's I had ever seen. I do not know why the images are so small.
Of course... my newp from the other day....{ I actually forgot which file I put it in - as I have had a few sets with mixed grades... MS & AU etc.
The VF 25 I sold Justin...
There are others - I just can't find them ... yet...
Oh, yeah, the one I sold Cary a few years ago... I wished I never sold it ... its the epitome of an XF [ even if it was an AU 50 on the insert ]...
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Paesan
Darrell - 3 times and your '05 didn't make 40? That's criminal.
Paesan - Have you noticed your coins in the seated thread?
Mike - I, too, am interested in what was tooled. Obv looks hairlined, but I've seen worse in graded holders. What was tooled?
Really good looking 40 you had, but your 58 was something special. I remember that coin from your August 2011 auction. It was as
nice as any 58 I've ever seen of any date. A friend was the underbidder, at what at that time was an amazing amount. I wonder who has it now?
And the XF/AU you sold Cary was choice as well..
Pics for this AM, Scott's newp 05-O qtr (that I had forgotten about when I was posting 05-O qtrs earlier), PC62:
l
It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Vern and Len, et al:
I had a few months to examine the 05-O when I first bought it, I was hoping on
the off chance, the hairlines ( looks more like random graffiti ) would be the only
cause for a Details Only coin. Yes, IMHO, the coin is clearly an AU 55 detail coin.
I am thinking the XF Detail designation is strictly for net grading purposes, and to
equate some form of value on it. The Reverse is virtually mark free, and I would say
it's as nice as any 55 I have seen.
The Tooling that PCGS mentions is nowhere to be found. I however, do not have a
stereo microscope as most TPG's have for through detail inspection. My 7X loop is
the best I own, and I still do not see any signs of tooling. The coin is currently with
Glenn Holsonbake and is available; he and I just substantially reduced the price.
For what ever reason, I did not see the images of the current 1905-O I have in my
latest set. The MS 63 was never intended to reside in this set, but belongs in my
meager collection of MS Halves, keeping company with my 1898 in 65, 1900 in 62,
& 1901 in 64+ (ex: NGC 65 ⭐️ ). The 1898 is currently with Glenn on consignment.
Don't let the 62 grade fool you, it's a knock out looking coin and compares favorably
with the Queller 1901 ( my absolute favorite Barber, "bar-none" ).
As I have been concentrating on BQ's as of late, the 43 coin submission to CAC only
contains Quarters. Again, once I get these coins back, my plans are to have them imaged.
Once imaged, they will be posted.
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New Barber Purchases
You attached pics of the 05-O you sold me to a PM on here, so you should have them there. Of course they're not the best pics you ever took, but they worked for me. Date was in 2010.
Justin, saw some of your beauties up there too!
Paesan
Paesan
Searching all categories and using a variety of search methods can yield some juicy results .. Of course it is still very infrequent to find anything worth buying or bidding on.
Pics for this AM, newp from Scott's collection, PC58:
l
It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Vern,
I looked at the description from Glenn's web site, and he said that
from what he can see, it looks as if someone smoothed the Obverse
to mask some scratches or graffiti. Tooling can mean more than re engraving,
which is what most people take it to mean, myself included.
The only explanation I have for the XF designation is it has got to be a net
grade pertaining to a value. The coin is obviously an AU 55 details coin, IMHO.
I added the 05-O in PCGS 35 that I sold to Shorecoll, and did a search on Heritage
and found the listing for the same coin. My old notes mentioned I had bought the
coin on eBay after the Heritage auction.
Another file turned up on my lap top, that I had long forgotten about. It seemed that
a few years ago, after I had a tune up ( what ever it's called in the IT world ) on the
Lap Top, they backed up my images (as requested) and a separate file exists with loads
of goodies. It seems I had a duplicate 1905-O Half in PCGS 58, that I bought from
Heritage, and a few months later, purchased another I liked more. The first 58 was
blast white from more than one dipping. Will add images later.
We needn't discuss all the other circulated 05-O's I have owned and eventually sold.
All of which were in VG 10 to VF 25. Don't know how often I have tried to replicate
my old college collection; most of the coins were VG 10 to VF 35, and housed in a
Whitman Bookshelf Album. My first set was a real labor of love and I started it in 1968.
For years, it remained just that, on a bookshelf, as I never found the last key date, 1896-O
until 1973. Two years later, that set and my coin collection were sold to Bowers and Ruddy.
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I'll be curious to see if it looks better in hand when I view it in person Wed. at Central States in Chicago. How high will it go?
Doug
Hoard the keys
RE 09-0 I advised my buddy not to buy it based on the in hand view, so have at it. Had he bid, it would have went for much more I can assure you.
Looking forward to seeing some of your rediscovered images.
Doug & Mark - I'll guess $6K on the 58 09-O. More if it looks better in hand, will be at lot viewing this PM.
Jim - Coming to Central States?
Pics for this AM, my 09-O in PC64, in my top 5 of favorite MS coins:
l
It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Rest assured, it's not MFH who is buying that 09-O in 58.
I am leaning towards a couple of other dates, that a friend....... ( Thank you again, Friend
is previewing for me.
I also spotted an attractive MS 66+ V Nickel for my MS set. Now, that's a set
that is usually overlooked. I should pay closer attention to it. But it's complete
in at least AU 55-58. More than half the dates are duplicated in MS. I shudder
when looking at many of the prices realized on the earlier dates, not just the
key dates !!
With the upcoming sale of Eugene Gardner's collection in June (?) of Part 1, I
wonder what this sale will consist of. There seems to be no inference as to what
it will contain. If Heritage ever decided to print a hard cover book with all of Gene's
images ( not their scans ), I know I would be happy to buy a copy. Anyone ever just
click onto any of his sets ATS and spend some time just looking and drooling ? That's
why I like my iPad, it wipes off easily. An "Ultrasuede" Microfiber cloth does a great
job removing finger prints from the screen. ( Just an FYI )
I wish Gene all the best in his auctions. He has an amazing collection. As nice if not
nicer than most I have seen.
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No I decided not to come. Had a friend with good eye's preview three coins for me, 2 I am not bidding on, one I am(not eh 09-o), that was for a friend, which he is not.
I too, am waiting anxiously for gardner , hoping I have enough funds to buy 1 or 2 coins.
A beautiful 1909-O. Is this the one you won from Stack's?
P.S. The 1893-S (several pages back) did come to me from Walt.
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Craig
<< <i>Vern - your 1909-O/64 is gorgeous
<< <i>
<< <i>Vern - your 1909-O/64 is gorgeous
Certainly a really nice 1909-O quarter!
Interesting to see the AU58 at well over $4k so far... will be even more interesting to see where it ends.
If it goes too much higher I'm going to have to crack out my PCGS MS64 example and try to make it an AU58 since we all know the MS64 is only worth $4800 in the PCGS Price Guide ($4000 in the latest Greysheet)...
Wonder if PCGS will finally bump the Guide prices on this coin to the current market??? They still have the AU58 at $1075!!!
Edited to add a pic of my 1909-O in MS64 since I haven't posted it in awhile...
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We all know price guides are all over the place, and auctions are fickle and can be equally misleading when trying to interpret prices... not just for Barbers but pretty much most classic coins. PCGS price guide shows a 1907-S quarter in AU58 at $350 .. I know mine cost me 6x that. Of course, I am just plain old crazy anyway
I believe pricing is 90% a matter of timing combined with the quality of the coin - who is buying, when are they buying, who else is interested and how nice (or how desirable) is the coin. Sometimes it may not matter how nice it is if the coin is prohibitively rare (not using the 09-O as an example as it is not rare enough), the quality of the coin is only a secondary factor.
* Edited for spelling mistake
The PCGS AU58 1909-O Barber Quarter looks to have sold with a final bid of $4,250... $4,993.75 including the buyer's premium!!! WOW!!!
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Sorry to Vern and Doug and others who have contacted me about Central States. Not going this year but going to be in Santa Clara instead. Purely an economic decision on my part. Sharing the table with Todd and Roger there.
It would cost me about $1800 with all expenses to go and have an 8' table, by myself at Central States, and this show has been in slow but steady decline, particularly when they moved it to Schaumberg, which has a lot of additional costs such as $50 each way taxi, stuck at the Hotel with no realistic other eating options aside from the Hotel unless you have a car, etc.
The cost for me to do the Santa Clara show which is steadily improving since Portsmouth Square resurrected it and restarted it is about $650.
It would take about $15K-$17K to break even at Central States, while $5K will cover SC. When I have done each of these shows, because I have more local following and no other reason, I sell about the same at both shows, somewhere around $15K-$20K.
I love to see my customers in the midwest and look forward to seeing them in August at the ANA, but the economics are what they are. I hope everyone has a successful show there and I expect to have a good one in Santa Clara.
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Also, seems like a no-brainer to stay close to home and I'm sure nobody will hold it against you. I'll bet FUN is an even bigger expense.
Paesan
P.S. How's the site going? (Plug!)
No need to be sorry about missing Central States. If it doesn't make sense for you financially to make the trip, you made the right choice.
Will see you at the ANA show in August!
All the best,
Doug
Mark - Your guess on what the AU58 09-O would bring was much closer than mine. I thought it looked better in hand than it did in the pics.
Wonder if the new owner is a forum member or reader.
Glenn - Makes good sense to me, look forward to seeing you at ANA in August.
Thoroughly enjoying Central States. Met up with several collector friends and saw some wonderful coins at the after hours get togethers.
Didn't get anything at the auctions, but was fortunate to secure nice VF 13-S and AU 15-S qtrs on the floor. Pics to follow in a day or two.
For this AM, Scott's raw newp of 3-4 months, now PC58:
l
It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
l
It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Your 1909-O is a super specimen in hand and Scott's 1895-S Quarter in PC58 is one of the "top ten" tough 58's.
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Craig
Also acquired a tough capped bust dime, but that will have to be for another thread. The show was very good for me, but the best part was the evening get togethers.
There were four of us on Wednesday which focused on barbers, and eight on Thursday with an amazing display of Indian Cents. What a great hobby.
l
It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
<< <i>Purrrrrfect 13-S! Meow!!! >>
Couldn't agree more! MeoWOW!
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<< <i>Purrrrrfect 13-S! Meow!!! >>
Couldn't agree more! MeoWOW! >>
Ditto, Ditto, Ditto
That 13-S is lovely !!
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I will be having these coins imaged by Messydesk once my last
CAC submission returns.
My newps: All Quarters: 1895-O PCGS 58 CAC, 1896-O PCGS 55, &
1911-S PCGS 58 CAC.
Heritage images to follow.
Last week, I was fortunate enough to add two more Quarters to my set:
1908-Phila and 1914-D - both PCGS 58. ( Non CAC ). I do not have any
images of any sort for these two coins, yet.
I am not sure if I posted my newp from last month - an 1897-O Quarter PCGS 55
I will get the Non CAC material off to New Jersey ASAP before I send them
off to be imaged.
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Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
New Barber Purchases
But I finally did a 1st and sent 3 in for crossover! I hope I am not jinxing myself by spilling the beans before I have the coins in hand!
1898-S Old ANACS 58 crossed to 58! YES! YES! YES!
1910 NGC 58 crossed to 58 Nice replacement for the coin in my set.
1911-D NGC 58 crossed to 58 worth a few more dollars now!
I guess I can't say I haven't made a 58 now and beat the 32% crossover odds bigtime!
The only coin I won from the recent Heritage auctions were the 1895-P Quarter in PC63. Appears to have nice skin and an original look .. went lower than I expected at $325+ +
Some of those AU55/58 quarters went 300-500% over what I forecasted .. Glad I was far away from the militia
To those who went to CS - hope you had an enjoyable experience and saw old friends and maybe even found a newp or two
Vern got the big prize. Congrats again!
Paesan
Mike - Congrats on the 3 wins from HA, and the 97-O from previous. Nice looking coins. And judging from the slab numbers, all from the same PCGS submission.
Darrell - Congrats on batting 1000 in the crossover game.
Scott & Paesan - Nice takedowns from the HA auction.
Pics for this AM, from Scott's collection, PC58:
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Vern, You and that 13-S were meant to be together.
Darrell, Agree with Vern. Congrats in perfect score on crosses. Not an easy task.
Paesan
Scott....nice 96-O quarter. The way you are heading with the quarters I hope you and Verne don't start battling for the 1901-S quarter in AU that doesn't seem to exist!
Thanks Paesan
Darrell - I hope the right 01-S qtr in shows up. That's the first (and biggest) hurdle.
Pics for this AM, another recent photo op from Scott's collection, PC55:
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<< <i>Wonder who won the 1901-O half in PC45, that sold Saturday thru Heritage. Sold for $1800 plus the vig. Was a really nice, original rare coin IMO. >>
Agreed from an online viewing perspective. Even the Heritage photo's couldn't hide the undisturbed surfaces of that coin. I don't follow XF's that much, but I bet you don't see many XF 01-O's like that.
Paesan
P.S. everything is fun with the wife! :-)
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<< <i>Wonder who won the 1901-O half in PC45, that sold Saturday thru Heritage. Sold for $1800 plus the vig. Was a really nice, original rare coin IMO. >>
Agreed from an online viewing perspective. Even the Heritage photo's couldn't hide the undisturbed surfaces of that coin. I don't follow XF's that much, but I bet you don't see many XF 01-O's like that. >>
I never looked at that 01-O Half in 45, as I have a really nice one in PC 45 -
I am pleased to hear what the one on HA sold for ($2115 with the juice ).
Guess it's about time I compared mine with the one that just sold.
Edit:
I can't image coins, pure and simple. I have so many that I want images of,
I'll go broke with the fees and hard copies. I am concentrating of getting the
Quarters completely imaged by Summer. I never expect to finish the set itself.
I am down to the really tough dates, aside from the Big Three.
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Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
New Barber Purchases
Mike - meant to say congrats on your recent Heritage bids .. Very nice !
Paesan - Hope you went there in your pink cadillac.
Mike - Hope to see your pics here. What a tough coin.
Pics for this AM, the coin Doug replaced in the Iowa collection at Central States, don't have pics of the new one yet, PC58::
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