<< <i>Based on the seller FB of 11 ratings and no slab shot of the coin, maybe I was happy I didn't know about it. Hopefully who ever did win it can verify the sale goes through without any difficulty and paid the $1200 via credit card >>
Yup, exactly why I didn't bid. Not to mention, it was from Germany. In August I won a PCGS 53 and a 55 off Teletrade. I also own a XF45. What can I say, I like the date.
That beautiful 96-O quarter belongs to a fellow forumite, who asked me to take pics of a few of his spectacular quarters. He will identify himself, if he chooses. Thanks to all for the comments. Here's what our hosts said:
Mike - I agree with you on my new 1907, a touch of acetone is needed. Here's what our hosts said about it:
TDN - That's one beautiful barber quarter, thanks for posting. Hopefully we'll see another.
I missed the ebay auction of the 99-S, but did see the 03 (O). It went reasonable enough.
Vern l It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
The 96-O is amazing! The 96-S maybe if you turn it 90 degrees the S will pop for us. Talk about being around the block, it's difficult to imagine how long that coin was in circulation.
<< <i>The 96-O is amazing! The 96-S maybe if you turn it 90 degrees the S will pop for us. Talk about being around the block, it's difficult to imagine how long that coin was in circulation. >>
Although indistinct, it looks too boxy for an O and when I did some overlays with other 1896-S pics, the position and tilt matched well. Here are a couple more pictures: [L=][/L] [L=][/L]
<< <i>...I might be inclined to have our hosts certify it... >>
Yes, I'm going to send it to PCGS along with some other interesting coins. I'm going through a large accumulation of coins my grandfather pulled from his store's cash register in the 1930s-60s. Such fun sorting and researching these raw coins! Found a fabulous AG3+ problem-free 1893-S Morgan too. Beautiful. Will send it in as well.
Scott - I'll take a nice original barber quarter in VF any day. They are tough to find. Also, I don't think the buyer of the $2,500 AU58 will have remorse. They know someone is willing to pay only $100 less to have their coin. And they have a coin in their collection that doesn't come along every year.
Mike - Nice acquisition on the tough dime.
Here's my VF, 07-S, from my raw collection:
Vern l It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
All things being equal, I think I would rather have the MS65 for $200 over the AU58. At least to me it seems pretty obvious. Then again, after seeing the 97-S Half in 58 sell for $15k while an MS64 was for sale at the same time for $6400, I suppose it isn't that shocking (except that 97-S was a pop 1 at the time ... which didn't last very long)
Nor should the 07-s quarter be a pop 4 in 58 very long. And all those people figuring it was a lowly $300-400 coin will soon get wise and submit. We shall see. Barber Quarters are fun though, aren't they?
We're all born MS70. I'm about a Fine 15 right now.
1894-P was XF 45 - now AU 50 - Full agreement 1898-P was AU 50 - no change - Thought a lock 53 1902-O was VF 35 - no change - Thought a lock 40 1907-S was VF 35 - no change - Thought a lock 40
Two other Halves' grades have yet to be posted.
1908-D - XF 40 - looking for a 45 1909-O - XF 45 - looking for a 50
I just paid Strong XF money for a Barber1/2 graded VF-30! The serious collectors know what is out there and don't care what the plastic says! So now I have an exceptional VF-30!
It's all opinions open to interpretation based on guidelines and standards ... It becomes a very grey area when net grading is introduced (practiced currently) skewing interpretations and leaving a lot to debate.
Europe's standards are different (more conservative) as are Canada's .. And even within the US or the widely accepted ANA grading standards there are varying interpretations (opinions). There is a vast segment of the collector base who do not practice the ANA grading standards at all and there are others who may adhere to it, but maybe are more casual (less serious) about it. Then, there are varying level of competences (intentional and accidental) within those who grade coins for a living (dealers)
This segment of the collector base (forum) mostly prefer coins slabbed in protective holders whose professionals' opinions are generally accepted as reasonably accurate the majority of the time.
In the end there are guidelines (ANA standards and PCGS photograde) and is the PNG and the ANA who are there to maintain and uphold the integrity of the hobby.
The professional grading services reduce the risk and stabilize the hobby. Nothing is perfect; but consider the alternative (would be the wild wild west). It is unregulated but it is a hobby; and these "assets" are luxuries not necessities - much like the art world. Education, experience and common sense are essential qualities - even then there will always be an element of risk
Any of you that have access to Coin Facts, check out the 1893 Barber Half entry. Tell me if you think the top three images in MS 66+ are all the same coin (as well as the fourth coin, the same coin when it received MS 66). Someone has been resubmitting the same coin many times. They must be looking for an MS 67. About a month ago the same thing was seen by me, with something like seven identical images, six MS 66+ and the MS 66, all different submission numbers, but obviously the same coin. I contacted Ron Guth who cleaned it up, but now we have more submissions again. Interesting!
Here is my latest NEWP. Once again sorry for the poor photos. I don't post most of my coins, because of my poor pictures. But here goes.
Seller told me this was in a NGC 63 slab. The Obverse has nice luster to it, not washed out like my pictures. The reverse has a nice golden toning all around the rim.
Mike is going to post the pictures. Thank you! My photobucket is having issues! Or I issues with it.
Someone please tell me what I am missing .. I realize people are slab collectors, but I hardly think that is the case here .. Someone and more than 1 person based on 22 bids - at least 2 people were at $1k on this coin .. A 1901-S Half is a holder that is incorrectly cataloged as a 1901-S Quarter .. The 01-S in G-6 is a $100 coin maximum (I am being generous - more like a $60 coin 01-S Half in quarter holder
I can only assume the people bidding misunderstood .. even though it is clearly listed as a PCGS error on the label. I don't get it
Scott - Thanks for the link on the counterfeit 96-S. I was at a show yesterday where a dealer told me that a Chinese counterfeit 1901-S quarter was floating around. I tried to find it, to no avail.
DrPete - Those look like the same coin to me. Slightly different lighting obscuring the 3 light marks in front of the portrait to some extent on a couple.
KAJ1 - nice looking 07-O, although pics may not have the color as it is. You said it was in an NGC-63. What did PCGS say? AU58 or MS64?
Scott - There are slab variety collectors, I guess there must be a couple of slab error collectors as well. No sillier than spending over $1000 on an AU58+ common date indian cent, I guess.
Only newp from yesterday's coin show:
Vern l It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
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<< <i>Based on the seller FB of 11 ratings and no slab shot of the coin, maybe I was happy I didn't know about it. Hopefully who ever did win it can verify the sale goes through without any difficulty and paid the $1200 via credit card >>
Yup, exactly why I didn't bid. Not to mention, it was from Germany.
In August I won a PCGS 53 and a 55 off Teletrade.
I also own a XF45. What can I say, I like the date.
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Mike - I agree with you on my new 1907, a touch of acetone is needed. Here's what our hosts said about it:
TDN - That's one beautiful barber quarter, thanks for posting. Hopefully we'll see another.
I missed the ebay auction of the 99-S, but did see the 03 (O). It went reasonable enough.
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<< <i>The 96-O is amazing! The 96-S maybe if you turn it 90 degrees the S will pop for us. Talk about being around the block, it's difficult to imagine how long that coin was in circulation.
Although indistinct, it looks too boxy for an O and when I did some overlays with other 1896-S pics, the position and tilt matched well. Here are a couple more pictures:
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<< <i>...I might be inclined to have our hosts certify it... >>
Yes, I'm going to send it to PCGS along with some other interesting coins. I'm going through a large accumulation of coins my grandfather pulled from his store's cash register in the 1930s-60s. Such fun sorting and researching these raw coins! Found a fabulous AG3+ problem-free 1893-S Morgan too. Beautiful. Will send it in as well.
DwaineO - like the look of that dime. Thanks for posting
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Buyer's remorse will likely set in at some point .. A 65 sold for $2700 in 1/2012 and slightly earlier in 3/11 - 1907 S MS65
Considering a 64 sold for $1600 last year, safe to say I will hold out for a nice 62/63 .... Probably get it for <$1500
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Mike - Nice acquisition on the tough dime.
Here's my VF, 07-S, from my raw collection:
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We shall see.
Barber Quarters are fun though, aren't they?
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<< <i>Reconsideration Grades just in:
HALF DOLLARS:
1894-P was XF 45 - now AU 50 - Full agreement
1898-P was AU 50 - no change - Thought a lock 53
1902-O was VF 35 - no change - Thought a lock 40
1907-S was VF 35 - no change - Thought a lock 40
Two other Halves' grades have yet to be posted.
1908-D - XF 40 - looking for a 45
1909-O - XF 45 - looking for a 50
... Will update as soon as I have the grades. >>
Pay the Man! Slap, SLAP!
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Europe's standards are different (more conservative) as are Canada's .. And even within the US or the widely accepted ANA grading standards there are varying interpretations (opinions). There is a vast segment of the collector base who do not practice the ANA grading standards at all and there are others who may adhere to it, but maybe are more casual (less serious) about it. Then, there are varying level of competences (intentional and accidental) within those who grade coins for a living (dealers)
This segment of the collector base (forum) mostly prefer coins slabbed in protective holders whose professionals' opinions are generally accepted as reasonably accurate the majority of the time.
In the end there are guidelines (ANA standards and PCGS photograde) and is the PNG and the ANA who are there to maintain and uphold the integrity of the hobby.
The professional grading services reduce the risk and stabilize the hobby. Nothing is perfect; but consider the alternative (would be the wild wild west). It is unregulated but it is a hobby; and these "assets" are luxuries not necessities - much like the art world. Education, experience and common sense are essential qualities - even then there will always be an element of risk
But .. he!!.. we all have fun... right?
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I'm talking about current market prices...not greysheet,priceguide, or whatever!
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But here goes.
Seller told me this was in a NGC 63 slab.
The Obverse has nice luster to it, not washed out like my pictures.
The reverse has a nice golden toning all around the rim.
Mike is going to post the pictures. Thank you!
My photobucket is having issues! Or I issues with it.
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01-S Half in quarter holder
I can only assume the people bidding misunderstood .. even though it is clearly listed as a PCGS error on the label. I don't get it
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DrPete - Those look like the same coin to me. Slightly different lighting obscuring the 3 light marks in front of the portrait to some extent on a couple.
KAJ1 - nice looking 07-O, although pics may not have the color as it is. You said it was in an NGC-63. What did PCGS say? AU58 or MS64?
Scott - There are slab variety collectors, I guess there must be a couple of slab error collectors as well. No sillier than spending over $1000 on an AU58+ common date indian cent, I guess.
Only newp from yesterday's coin show:
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