Now I'm going to give you the "you suck" award Papi for finding the late stage die crack 006's! Great find! Those will be THE premier error, no doubt. Wish I could've come across a couple of them, but
I don't think I will be buying any more bank boxes. Do you mind sharing what kind of wrappers the box had in it? Again, congrats!
I will be a buyer Papi if I never come across one in my searches. Certain coins like the 006 late stage die cracks will definately be one to have in the collection. $20 cost, per your estimate, translates to
how rare they are which of course leads to their ultimate value. I know I'll skip a heartbeat if I ever see one through my loupe! Are you going to send any in to Anacs for grading or wait, and hope,
<< <i>Here is a better view, the other you have to click at the top of the page view full version. Better Link I am not sure if any of you belong to that forum and contributed to there list of top ten. >>
There's been no comment made to that thread in 17-18 months.
They only reason it was being discussed was to form a list. They made a list, the conversation stopped; no further interest.
Are those some of your comments? Why does it say "Banned" under Coin-Crazy? >>
I seen that also, it is not me. I never joined that site. I came across the thread doing a google search for 2009 FY WDDR-025, and it came up in the results. There is a member on here with the name coincrazy though not sure if they are the same.
I wonder how many sellers are buying up $25 "mint" boxes, searching them, buying N.F. String and Son wrappers and boxes, and re-rolling them? You could then resell them as sealed boxes with some mark on them, like a first day of issue, to make sure you don't buy them again? Both the wrappers and boxes are available for cheap and rollers aren't too expensive if you are in high volume. It appears some sellers have specific marks on the boxes that really don't serve a purpose.
Conspiracy theory? Maybe... Just a thought to all those buying boxes...
Jessewvu, I'm sure there are unscrupulous people out there that would do just what you are suggesting. I have been frustrated by finding only die cracks (rim to mallet) in the first four rolls I've opened
in one of my bank boxes (string and sons wrappers) . My frustration is tempered however by the fact I purchased another bank box from the same seller (albeit not the same wrappers) at the same time
and it has been full of wddr-016's. Papi was just commenting how he had only found about 8-10 of the wddr-006's with the late die stage giant obverse die crack out of entire 50 roll box.
That also gives me some hope that I just haven't hit the right roll yet. Regardless, I can't worry about someone playing me for a sucker. In the end they're the ones who have to live with a
guilty conscious. I am a bit naive when it comes to thieves and cheats, but honesty has served me well in all of my Ebay sales. I hope you would out anyone who you knew is/was doing such a
thing so we could avoid buying from them. Let us know what you've been finding in your searches. You don't post often enough and I want you to be part of the conversation because I know
<< <i> I have been frustrated by finding only die cracks (rim to mallet) in the first four rolls I've opened in one of my bank boxes (string and sons wrappers). >>
You guys are spoiled by LP2 boxes; "Find the date, and find the errors".
Welcome to the search for bank boxes! Not every bank box has varieties.
If you're not willing to take the risk of being skunked, then don't buy them. I've be skunked many many many many many times.
I have also found varieties in boxes that were obviously opened before I got them,but more often I find nothing
If you guys are looking for Guarantees then go back to your LP2 boxes, and get out of the search. This is supposed to be fun and exciting.
Reading your conspiracy theories is not fun, not for me. I smell greed and I'm not liking where this thread is going.
Papi, I think those of us who have now started buying bank boxes are willing to take a chance in being skunked. You highlighted my statement about being frustrated in only finding die cracks so far in my one
bank box but left off my very next sentence that my frustration was tempered in the fact that the other bank box was producing the 016's. Frustration is not the same thing as being discouraged. There is
no negative energy there. I have to believe when you were skunked that it was at least disappointing. Obviously you weren't discouraged in continuing your quest (just as I am not discouraged) and bought more
boxes to explore. As you say, and I also wholly believe, it's the FUN of the search that keeps true collectors of these like us going. I agree with you that this thread should only stay on a positive and encouraging
level. We should just be sharing what we find and sources where they were found. We should all look forward together to the day that these will hit the publications. That will be a day of celebration and
justification for all of the time and money spent in our searches. I agree also (and that's what I was trying to impart in my last post) that we shouldn't dwell on the possibility that someone is out to cheat us or
scam us. We can be paranoid or we can be positive. I choose the positive!
I'm not sure how to make myself clearer Papi. I hadn't even thought of being "ripped off". I am an honest person and I believe that the sellers I deal with are also honest. I was responding to a couple of posts
that raised the possibility that some unscrupulous folks out there might play around with the contents of certain bank boxes. If you read my posts (at least the way I intended for them to read) I was countering
that paranoia with positivity! I am trying to be encouraging. I enjoy the search, even if it means being skunked once in awhile. You're right about the lp2 boxes and knowing what to expect from certain dates
being the easier (shooting fish in a barrel, so to speak). Searching bank boxes is like shooting in the dark, I have no clue what's going to be revealed. What a great feeling to find 016's, 025's, and 032's!
Is it wrong to be a little disappointed if you don't find anything in a box? That doesn't discourage me from continuing my searches though. That also doesn't make me wonder if I got ripped off. It's the luck
of the draw in my estimation. This is the last I will have to say on this subject. Here I thought I was being the moderator and trying to steer the conversation back to a positive only to find out that words and
intentions don't always translate.
Back to what this thread is really all about...........found 13 more 016's in two rolls last night! How about everybody else? What are your latest finds!
I am not at all worried about not finding errors in the current box I am going through, disappointed yes, but it's on to the next box.
Be on the lookout for discount coins to be listing some more boxes he gets hold of in the next few weeks as he is ordering more from whomever he gets his from.
I took all the boxes he had left and am still going through them but stopped saving the die cracks.
He may get some more good ones.
Hopefully he finds some with some different errors as I have enough of the 032's and 025's.
He does not have the time to go through what he gets so they are unchecked.
<< <i> But as much as some may like to catch me in some kind of Romney flip-flop; appreciation in value has never been my sole motivation to find them all. >>
Okay Mitt...err Papi.
For all your previous input the PCGS LP2 006 club would like to award you The Flying Fickle Skeleton Finger of Fate Award.
I am sure glad nobody bought that box I had on ebay (6 watchers and no buyers), that had the 032 error on the end of 1 roll. Upon opening the box I discovered there were 9 rolls with errors on the end( 5 WDDR 032 and 4 WDDR 025). The reason I took it off ebay was my 7 boxes from discount coin have not arrived yet and I needed some more coins to look through. I have only opened 2 rolls so far and found 28 errors including 2 025's and 4 032,s.
Sometimes Pitboss, like in sports, it's the trades you don't make that end up being the winning play. Good for you! Funny thing too, the two boxes I recently purchased from auctionut were listed seperately.
I had put an offer in on each but was debating about cancelling one of my offers. The one I had debated cancelling I decided in the end to keep my offer alive. Eventually he accepted both offers.
Guess what? That was the box that has the 016's in it.
Those 2 boxes from auctionnut I looked at and decided against buying them because he was selling other errors. My mistake. Congradulations to you on taking a chance and getting the 016's.
Thanks Pitboss, just the luck of the draw. Well, I continued to search tonight. String and sons (1) roll opened....zero errors except for a few die cracks.....plain brown and red wrappers (2) opened
3-016's in the first roll, 0-016's in the second roll. Oh wait.....in the second roll I found 2-wddr-047's so, overall not a bad night after a long day at work.
It went quiet here for a few days. Nobody has anything new to report? Pitboss you must have received those seven bank boxes by now...what's the word? I'm still going through my two boxes. The String
and Sons box is producing nothing of significance, just die cracks rim to mallet. The plain brown and red box is still producing mostly wddr-016's but a couple of 047's, and minor errors of 088's, and 100's. I'm
very slow in going through these due to work and family obligations but I'll eventually have a total tally to share. Hope you all are having similar fun and success in your searches!
The 7 boxes came Saturday. I was not here but my wife got them for me. I went into the VA hospital Friday morning with chest pains and did not get home until this afternoon. Have not had a chance yet to check them as I don't feel up to it at this point. They observed me for 3 days and then ran a scope from my groin to my heart. No blockages but I do have coronary artery disease.
<< <i>The 7 boxes came Saturday. I was not here but my wife got them for me. I went into the VA hospital Friday morning with chest pains and did not get home until this afternoon. Have not had a chance yet to check them as I don't feel up to it at this point. They observed me for 3 days and then ran a scope from my groin to my heart. No blockages but I do have coronary artery disease. >>
Well I am glad to see you post, its not fun sitting in the VA hospital at all and Hopefully they took care of you. I am glad to have that option in my life right now too. So Here is to hoping you feel better soon and get back into the searching, until than relax and get well...........Tom
Pretty excuse for NOT searching boxes Pitboss but, ok, we'll accept it this time! Seriously though, not an easy thing to go through so I'm happy to hear you're back home and recuperating.
I thought I was having chest pains recently too but it turned out I had fallen asleep with a bank box on my chest. Well, take care of yourself and we'll look forward to hearing about your searches a little bit
I did look at 6 rolls from one of the new boxes and they are more of the same. I got 2 WDDR 025's and 20 of the WDDR 032's out of them as well as many die cracks. I do feel better tonight and am grateful for the VA. I originally went down there to have my knees examined. I had both knees xrayed and went upstairs to check in at orthopedics. They took one look at my vitals and put me in a wheelchair and down to the emergency room for me.
Glad to hear your feeling better and your searching continues. Yesterday I found all my rolls that I did not open because they were from the d mint and back than I thought we were only finding the errors in the P part of the mints box. So is there any of these that have been found in the d rolls? Thanks guys................Enjoy
This is a weird box, I have picked up 12 -025's ,12- 32's out of 10 rolls along with a bunch of this kind of garbage. Is this caused by die changes or what? How often do they change the dies? I have heard every 100,000 or so.
1Tommy...if you go to Wexler's site for 2009 doubled dies he does have a section on the 2009D errors. In the regular mint lp2 boxes there are a few minor errors (not considered "best of") but in the satin
finish cents that you would find in the 36 coin sets that were a special mint issue (95% copper like the good old days) there are some nice errors to be found that are considered "best of" finds by Wexler.
PCGS has a nice description of these special low mintage cents on its home site. I purchased several of these sets and have only found one of the errors.
isn't knowing not as many,( not even close ) errors in D or Denver,than there are in P or Philadelphia an encouragement to these under-rated gems? We know many did surface in the P's but still! When will the 2009's get their just reward?
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I don't recall this question ever being asked....forgive me if it has....for those of you that sent these to Anacs for grading what was, if any, the net effect on your grades due to spotting? I have some very
nice examples (very few nicks/scratches/dents) that have some spotting from a poor rinse at the mint. I am looking forward to one day sending some in for grading (PCGS?) but need to know if the spotting
is considered a negative when grading.
On another note, in my current bank box as some of you know I'm finding wddr-016's (probably have found about 75 so far) but I've also found only 3 or the wddr-047's. Granted the 047's are not
considered the "best of the best" as displayed by Papi on page 17 of this thread. It is however considered a "best of" variety by Wexler on his site. I'm curious, because I'm finding so few of these, if they
are more rare than we think. Does anyone have a quantity of these in their collection? I don't see them being offered on Ebay. Looking forward to your answers to both of my queries. Until then
I had good grades from ANACS on the 80 coins I sent to them when they first came out. I don't know about the what the rinse factor would be. Call Paul Defelice at ANACS and ask him.
As far as rarity goes it is hard to tell because there is no way of telling how many of each error was made. I run ino the same thing with the 25's and the 32's as I am getting 2 or 3 times as many of the 32's. Some people may hit a sweet spot and get a bunch of one or the other.
How many presses are running when they are making cents? I see a lot of different varieties when I am looking through boxes, 50, 100, 200? This could spread the errors out over a large aMOUNT OF ROLLS.
I have a couple of those that you gave away and now went thru 2 rolls of the d's and did not notice anything except for the coins look alot better than my P. I am going to hang on to a couple of the d rolls as most of those probally went into circulation. I hope to take the only 1 or 2 of the P's without those spots and presend them in now to our host and worry about the attributation later. I know most of mine have those spots all over them, so I would think they would not grade very well. Still have a few boxes to open up someday. Thanks for the info ............Enjoy
If you want to see bad spots just look at those coins I posted 7 posts ago. The box I am half way through had hundreds of coins that looked like that including WDDR 025 and 032's. I threw away 10 WDDR 032's and 6 WDDR 025's because either the reverse or the obverse looked like that. In that half box I still came up with 29-025's and 33- 032's that were good.
Hey Pitboss..go retrieve those 25's and 32's. I wouldn't discard any in spite of condition. Someone out there will want one on the cheap on Ebay. Anyway, there may be a way to rinse those spots off. I'm
not an expert when it comes to safely cleaning off what the mint couldn't but I've got to believe someone does. Waiting for that person to chime in at any time! Meanwhile, just put those in a holding cell
Those coins were dumped in a bin with about 8000 other pennies and I am not about to hunt through them to find a few coins that I have quite a few of anyway. I will save any more that I get even though they look disgusting. I assume there will be more in the other half box and who knows how many in the 4 remaining boxes that I have. The good news is I seem to have hit a larger group of errors than I previously was finding and most of them are in good condition.
I did run across more of them and decided to destroy them rather than put them back in circulation as they were bad. I did get a lot of good errors out of that box though.
Found a stage D reverse wddr-027 tonight....( die crack from the log down through the designer's initials to the rim and a die chip inside the initials ) very nice to see something different.
It came out of a roll that is from the bank box I have that is producing mainly wddr-016's. Considered a "best of" error by John Wexler even though probably not a "best of the best" as has been
discussed before, it may have stronger value because of the final die stage reverse...of course time will tell. This is the one and only 027 that I have ever found.
Hope you all are still having fun searching these too! Ok, that's my report for tonight...back to roll searching! everyone!
<< <i>I did run across more of them and decided to destroy them rather than put them back in circulation as they were bad. I did get a lot of good errors out of that box though. >>
I would have put them in circulation. Some young numismatic would probably love to find one, and who knows you may spark a new collector. I have put several different ones in circulation, in hopes someone will find them. I remember when I was a kid, when I used to go to the bank to get rolls to search through, I really got excited to find coins that were collectable. I still do on occasion, my late father did the same when he was a kid in the thirties and was still doing it until he past away a few years ago. Just a thought!
I came across more of them and did put them in circulation. I took $120 worth down to the bank this morning and included 12 WDDR 032's and 9 WDDR 025's in there too. I got to thinking about it and decided that I have no right to just destroy them. They are no good for mature coin collectors but I remember back in the late 40's and early 50's searching for anything that would help my puny collection.
I was probably about 12 when I bought my first penny collection folder at a local coinshop. After I paid for it the gentleman handed me my change. Of course I immediately looked at the pennies to see if
there was anything special to put in my new book. Holy cow! There was a 1909 penny! What luck I thought! I couldn't believe that guy hadn't seen that in his register and put it in his own collection!
Naturally it was years later that I realized that he had purposefully and kindly put that in my hand to start my collection. That's what you guys are doing by putting the errors that don't meet your grading
standards back into circulation. Some new collector may come across them and marvel at their luck! Good on ya guys!
Has anyone bought the the new boxes discount coins has now? I am curious how he can replace first dated boxes just like that. I bought the same boxes you guys did from him but direct, not from ebay. I had the same results in errors but my box was not dated like the ones he sells on ebay. Makes me wonder if he has a rubber stamp? I am also curious why would anyone brag to the guy about there finds? I think As a result he has raised his prices on ebay and direct.
I have only purchased one box from him and two from another seller. That's all I'm going to get. Discountcoins does have a source because others are still buying multiples from him.
Not worried about why some boxes are dated and some are not as long as they produced errors. Mine did, the 025's and 032's.
I'm wondering what Papi's up to. Not contributing here lately and not responding to pm's. Hope he's ok. Anyone in contact?
In the meantime...I'm still digging through my last bank box and finding mostly wddr-016's but a smattering of other more minor errors (088's and 100's).
The 027 with the stage d reverse that I found was cool.
I also found 3 of the 047's. I have about 10 more rolls to go through so I might as well get going and see what else I can discover.
Take care guys....hope you all get that "lucky" find!
<< <i>I have only purchased one box from him and two from another seller. That's all I'm going to get. Discountcoins does have a source because others are still buying multiples from him.
Not worried about why some boxes are dated and some are not as long as they produced errors. Mine did, the 025's and 032's.
I'm wondering what Papi's up to. Not contributing here lately and not responding to pm's. Hope he's ok. Anyone in contact?
In the meantime...I'm still digging through my last bank box and finding mostly wddr-016's but a smattering of other more minor errors (088's and 100's).
The 027 with the stage d reverse that I found was cool.
I also found 3 of the 047's. I have about 10 more rolls to go through so I might as well get going and see what else I can discover.
Take care guys....hope you all get that "lucky" find! >>
Mine had the same errors 25's and 32's, same bank wrappers as the rest with the date marked boxes. I just don't like seeing people get screwed because they think there getting first day mint marked boxes and paying a premium for them. If your happy paying more that is up to you, but other people may disagree.
The ones discount has now are String rolls not what he is showing on his listing. They are rolls that contain the same errors as his previous listings. The rolls are very poorly wraped buy the wraping machine but do contain the errors. I bought 4 boxes and am halfway through them now.
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Just FYI; I've been buying bank boxes for a while and .....
A lot of original owners opened boxes to verify the Mint and the design. Yes, even boxes with holes in them; not all people have 20/20 vision.
With that said, I've had boxes where no rolls had DDRs showing on the ends; but there were DDRs in the rolls.
I have a box now that is producing WDDR-006, with the big obverse crack. I found 4 or 5 in about 20 rolls. Your not going to see those on the end.
But they're worth more to me than all the 025s that PB just found.
So, it's not always what you see on the surface.
I don't think I will be buying any more bank boxes. Do you mind sharing what kind of wrappers the box had in it? Again, congrats!
<< <i>Do you mind sharing what kind of wrappers the box had in it? >>
They were in Red & White wrappers. 8-10 coins per 2500 coin box isn't what you'd call a gold vein.
They cost about $20 each to find, when I factor in my time for searching.
The cracks are cool, but they're a specialist item; they won't appear in any book.
So, who's gonna buy them, really?
They're only worth what someone else is willing to pay for them.
how rare they are which of course leads to their ultimate value. I know I'll skip a heartbeat if I ever see one through my loupe! Are you going to send any in to Anacs for grading or wait, and hope,
that PCGS and NGC finally start labeling these?
<< <i> Are you going to send any in to Anacs for grading or wait, and hope, that PCGS and NGC finally start labeling these? >>
Actually, I bought one of Ebay about 3 yrs ago.
I think it was ANACS MS 67, but I don't remember what I paid, or what box I put it in; but it's somewhere.
As far as mine, I'm holding out for PCGS. Why? Because I'd like an accurate grade.
I've seen some ANACS coins graded really high that should not have been. I think they're inconsistent in their grades.
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<< <i>Here is a better view, the other you have to click at the top of the page view full version. Better Link I am not sure if any of you belong to that forum and contributed to there list of top ten. >>
There's been no comment made to that thread in 17-18 months.
They only reason it was being discussed was to form a list. They made a list, the conversation stopped; no further interest.
Are those some of your comments? Why does it say "Banned" under Coin-Crazy? >>
I seen that also, it is not me. I never joined that site. I came across the thread doing a google search for 2009 FY WDDR-025, and it came up in the results. There is a member on here with the name coincrazy though not sure if they are the same.
Successful Trades: Swampboy,
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<< <i>Do you mind sharing what kind of wrappers the box had in it? >>
They were in Red & White wrappers. 8-10 coins per 2500 coin box isn't what you'd call a gold vein.
They cost about $20 each to find, when I factor in my time for searching.
The cracks are cool, but they're a specialist item; they won't appear in any book.
So, who's gonna buy them, really?
They're only worth what someone else is willing to pay for them. >>
That is a really cool find.
Successful Trades: Swampboy,
Conspiracy theory? Maybe... Just a thought to all those buying boxes...
in one of my bank boxes (string and sons wrappers) . My frustration is tempered however by the fact I purchased another bank box from the same seller (albeit not the same wrappers) at the same time
and it has been full of wddr-016's. Papi was just commenting how he had only found about 8-10 of the wddr-006's with the late die stage giant obverse die crack out of entire 50 roll box.
That also gives me some hope that I just haven't hit the right roll yet. Regardless, I can't worry about someone playing me for a sucker. In the end they're the ones who have to live with a
guilty conscious. I am a bit naive when it comes to thieves and cheats, but honesty has served me well in all of my Ebay sales. I hope you would out anyone who you knew is/was doing such a
thing so we could avoid buying from them. Let us know what you've been finding in your searches. You don't post often enough and I want you to be part of the conversation because I know
you're collecting these errors too!
<< <i> I have been frustrated by finding only die cracks (rim to mallet) in the first four rolls I've opened in one of my bank boxes (string and sons wrappers). >>
You guys are spoiled by LP2 boxes; "Find the date, and find the errors".
Welcome to the search for bank boxes! Not every bank box has varieties.
If you're not willing to take the risk of being skunked, then don't buy them. I've be skunked many many many many many times.
I have also found varieties in boxes that were obviously opened before I got them, but more often I find nothing
If you guys are looking for Guarantees then go back to your LP2 boxes, and get out of the search. This is supposed to be fun and exciting.
Reading your conspiracy theories is not fun, not for me. I smell greed and I'm not liking where this thread is going.
bank box but left off my very next sentence that my frustration was tempered in the fact that the other bank box was producing the 016's. Frustration is not the same thing as being discouraged. There is
no negative energy there. I have to believe when you were skunked that it was at least disappointing. Obviously you weren't discouraged in continuing your quest (just as I am not discouraged) and bought more
boxes to explore. As you say, and I also wholly believe, it's the FUN of the search that keeps true collectors of these like us going. I agree with you that this thread should only stay on a positive and encouraging
level. We should just be sharing what we find and sources where they were found. We should all look forward together to the day that these will hit the publications. That will be a day of celebration and
justification for all of the time and money spent in our searches. I agree also (and that's what I was trying to impart in my last post) that we shouldn't dwell on the possibility that someone is out to cheat us or
scam us. We can be paranoid or we can be positive. I choose the positive!
<< <i> was tempered in the fact that the other bank box was producing the 016's. >>
So, are saying; if you hadn't found something in one of the boxes you bought, that you would have felt that you had been ripped off?
My point is; if you're (everyone) going to whine, and I'm not saying you are, about not finding something in EVERY bank box you buy.
Then don't buy them, because it's a crap shoot
that raised the possibility that some unscrupulous folks out there might play around with the contents of certain bank boxes. If you read my posts (at least the way I intended for them to read) I was countering
that paranoia with positivity! I am trying to be encouraging. I enjoy the search, even if it means being skunked once in awhile. You're right about the lp2 boxes and knowing what to expect from certain dates
being the easier (shooting fish in a barrel, so to speak). Searching bank boxes is like shooting in the dark, I have no clue what's going to be revealed. What a great feeling to find 016's, 025's, and 032's!
Is it wrong to be a little disappointed if you don't find anything in a box? That doesn't discourage me from continuing my searches though. That also doesn't make me wonder if I got ripped off. It's the luck
of the draw in my estimation. This is the last I will have to say on this subject. Here I thought I was being the moderator and trying to steer the conversation back to a positive only to find out that words and
intentions don't always translate.
Back to what this thread is really all about...........found 13 more 016's in two rolls last night!
<< <i>Is it wrong to be a little disappointed if you don't find anything in a box? That doesn't discourage me from continuing my searches though. >>
THAT"S THE SPIRIT I WAS HOPING TO HEAR
<< <i>
I smell greed and I'm not liking where this thread is going. >>
Didn't you lose interest in these because they weren't being accepted and appreciating in value?
Be on the lookout for discount coins to be listing some more boxes he gets hold of in the next few weeks as he is ordering more from whomever he gets his from.
I took all the boxes he had left and am still going through them but stopped saving the die cracks.
He may get some more good ones.
Hopefully he finds some with some different errors as I have enough of the 032's and 025's.
He does not have the time to go through what he gets so they are unchecked.
Good source guys.
<< <i>
<< <i> I smell greed and I'm not liking where this thread is going. >>
Didn't you lose interest in these because they weren't being accepted and appreciating in value? >>
Touché.
However my search is motivated by finding what has eluded me.
Correct, I'm discouraged by the lack of recognition they've received by PCGS and the CPG. And the willingness for some to sell for .99c
I may never make a penny over what I've spent to find these, but I've had fun.
As much as some may like to catch me in some kind of Romney flip-flop; appreciation in value has never been my sole motivation to find them all.
<< <i>
But as much as some may like to catch me in some kind of Romney flip-flop; appreciation in value has never been my sole motivation to find them all. >>
Okay Mitt...err Papi.
For all your previous input the PCGS LP2 006 club would like to award you The Flying Fickle Skeleton Finger of Fate Award.
<< <i>For all your previous input the PCGS LP2 006 club would like to award you The Flying Fickle Skeleton Finger of Fate Award. >>
Ok, but which finger?
<< <i>That skeleton finger is pretty big, I don't know which he is referring to. >>
PB you are old enough to remember that "Laugh In" award trophy. It's the nose picking finger.
I had put an offer in on each but was debating about cancelling one of my offers. The one I had debated cancelling I decided in the end to keep my offer alive. Eventually he accepted both offers.
Guess what? That was the box that has the 016's in it.
3-016's in the first roll, 0-016's in the second roll.
and Sons box is producing nothing of significance, just die cracks rim to mallet. The plain brown and red box is still producing mostly wddr-016's but a couple of 047's, and minor errors of 088's, and 100's. I'm
very slow in going through these due to work and family obligations but I'll eventually have a total tally to share. Hope you all are having similar fun and success in your searches!
<< <i>The 7 boxes came Saturday. I was not here but my wife got them for me. I went into the VA hospital Friday morning with chest pains and did not get home until this afternoon. Have not had a chance yet to check them as I don't feel up to it at this point. They observed me for 3 days and then ran a scope from my groin to my heart. No blockages but I do have coronary artery disease. >>
Well I am glad to see you post, its not fun sitting in the VA hospital at all and Hopefully they took care of you. I am glad to have that option in my life right now too. So Here is to hoping you feel better soon and get back into the searching, until than relax and get well...........Tom
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Link to My Registry Set.
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I thought I was having chest pains recently too but it turned out I had fallen asleep with a bank box on my chest. Well, take care of yourself and we'll look forward to hearing about your searches a little bit
down the road.
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Link to My Registry Set.
https://pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-specialty-sets/washington-quarters-complete-variety-set-circulation-strikes-1932-1964/publishedset/78469
Varieties Are The Spice Of LIFE and Thanks to Those who teach us what to search For.
This is a weird box, I have picked up 12 -025's ,12- 32's out of 10 rolls along with a bunch of this kind of garbage. Is this caused by die changes or what? How often do they change the dies? I have heard every 100,000 or so.
finish cents that you would find in the 36 coin sets that were a special mint issue (95% copper like the good old days) there are some nice errors to be found that are considered "best of" finds by Wexler.
PCGS has a nice description of these special low mintage cents on its home site. I purchased several of these sets and have only found one of the errors.
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is considered a negative when grading.
On another note, in my current bank box as some of you know I'm finding wddr-016's (probably have found about 75 so far) but I've also found only 3 or the wddr-047's. Granted the 047's are not
considered the "best of the best" as displayed by Papi on page 17 of this thread. It is however considered a "best of" variety by Wexler on his site. I'm curious, because I'm finding so few of these, if they
are more rare than we think. Does anyone have a quantity of these in their collection? I don't see them being offered on Ebay. Looking forward to your answers to both of my queries. Until then
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As far as rarity goes it is hard to tell because there is no way of telling how many of each error was made. I run ino the same thing with the 25's and the 32's as I am getting 2 or 3 times as many of the 32's. Some people may hit a sweet spot and get a bunch of one or the other.
How many presses are running when they are making cents? I see a lot of different varieties when I am looking through boxes, 50, 100, 200? This could spread the errors out over a large aMOUNT OF ROLLS.
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Link to My Registry Set.
https://pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-specialty-sets/washington-quarters-complete-variety-set-circulation-strikes-1932-1964/publishedset/78469
Varieties Are The Spice Of LIFE and Thanks to Those who teach us what to search For.
not an expert when it comes to safely cleaning off what the mint couldn't but I've got to believe someone does. Waiting for that person to chime in at any time! Meanwhile, just put those in a holding cell
until you can bail them out.
It came out of a roll that is from the bank box I have that is producing mainly wddr-016's. Considered a "best of" error by John Wexler even though probably not a "best of the best" as has been
discussed before, it may have stronger value because of the final die stage reverse...of course time will tell. This is the one and only 027 that I have ever found.
Hope you all are still having fun searching these too! Ok, that's my report for tonight...back to roll searching!
<< <i>I did run across more of them and decided to destroy them rather than put them back in circulation as they were bad. I did get a lot of good errors out of that box though. >>
I would have put them in circulation. Some young numismatic would probably love to find one, and who knows you may spark a new collector. I have put several different ones in circulation, in hopes someone will find them. I remember when I was a kid, when I used to go to the bank to get rolls to search through, I really got excited to find coins that were collectable. I still do on occasion, my late father did the same when he was a kid in the thirties and was still doing it until he past away a few years ago. Just a thought!
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there was anything special to put in my new book. Holy cow! There was a 1909 penny! What luck I thought! I couldn't believe that guy hadn't seen that in his register and put it in his own collection!
Naturally it was years later that I realized that he had purposefully and kindly put that in my hand to start my collection. That's what you guys are doing by putting the errors that don't meet your grading
standards back into circulation. Some new collector may come across them and marvel at their luck! Good on ya guys!
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Not worried about why some boxes are dated and some are not as long as they produced errors. Mine did, the 025's and 032's.
I'm wondering what Papi's up to. Not contributing here lately and not responding to pm's. Hope he's ok. Anyone in contact?
In the meantime...I'm still digging through my last bank box and finding mostly wddr-016's but a smattering of other more minor errors (088's and 100's).
The 027 with the stage d reverse that I found was cool.
I also found 3 of the 047's. I have about 10 more rolls to go through so I might as well get going and see what else I can discover.
Take care guys....hope you all get that "lucky" find!
<< <i>I have only purchased one box from him and two from another seller. That's all I'm going to get. Discountcoins does have a source because others are still buying multiples from him.
Not worried about why some boxes are dated and some are not as long as they produced errors. Mine did, the 025's and 032's.
I'm wondering what Papi's up to. Not contributing here lately and not responding to pm's. Hope he's ok. Anyone in contact?
In the meantime...I'm still digging through my last bank box and finding mostly wddr-016's but a smattering of other more minor errors (088's and 100's).
The 027 with the stage d reverse that I found was cool.
I also found 3 of the 047's. I have about 10 more rolls to go through so I might as well get going and see what else I can discover.
Take care guys....hope you all get that "lucky" find! >>
Mine had the same errors 25's and 32's, same bank wrappers as the rest with the date marked boxes. I just don't like seeing people get screwed because they think there getting first day mint marked boxes and paying a premium for them. If your happy paying more that is up to you, but other people may disagree.
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