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    << <i>Here is the crazy thing. None of those opened boxes will ever get the 25th ann. label or first strike. This is going to make those even rarer in my opinion. >>



    If you can't get both labels on the two rarest coins, which label would command the highest premium- F/S or Anniversary label? >>



    Hmmmm...good question.....open box grading....BOTH labels are assumed since they sold out in 5 hours and those 2 are FS eligible...I would go for the 25th but I could also understand the other option....BUT....if you send in just those two coins both options are possible on the same label

    Closed box grading I would go for the 25th because of the other 3 coins having the 25th also
  • CCC2010CCC2010 Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Here is the crazy thing. None of those opened boxes will ever get the 25th ann. label or first strike. This is going to make those even rarer in my opinion. >>



    If you can't get both labels on the two rarest coins, which label would command the highest premium- F/S or Anniversary label? >>



    Hmmmm...good question.....open box grading....BOTH labels are assumed since they sold out in 5 hours and those 2 are FS eligible...I would go for the 25th but I could also understand the other option....BUT....if you send in just those two coins both options are possible on the same label

    Closed box grading I would go for the 25th because of the other 3 coins having the 25th also >>



    my apologies ...why cant we get the two labels of FS and 25th Anniversary label on the two rarest coins again?
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  • << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Here is the crazy thing. None of those opened boxes will ever get the 25th ann. label or first strike. This is going to make those even rarer in my opinion. >>



    If you can't get both labels on the two rarest coins, which label would command the highest premium- F/S or Anniversary label? >>



    Hmmmm...good question.....open box grading....BOTH labels are assumed since they sold out in 5 hours and those 2 are FS eligible...I would go for the 25th but I could also understand the other option....BUT....if you send in just those two coins both options are possible on the same label

    Closed box grading I would go for the 25th because of the other 3 coins having the 25th also >>



    my apologies ...why cant we get the two labels of FS and 25th Anniversary label on the two rarest coins again? >>



    I think you can but you have to submit those coins separate from the other 3 (those not eligible for FS) so it is a sacrifice of those 3 25th labels
  • GManGMan Posts: 790 ✭✭
    I persevered and was able to order 5 single set orders. Yes I thought I was taking a risk, but I did not want a 5 box. My brother ordered a 2 box and 3 single orders. It was possible just a huge pain in the arse. Hopefully it will be worth the extra time and effort.
    GMan
  • smokincoinsmokincoin Posts: 2,636 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I think you can but you have to submit those coins separate from the other 3 (those not eligible for FS) so it is a sacrifice of those 3 25th labels >>


    I don't understand. Submit a sealed box of five, get the 25th anniv. label on all five and add FS to the two eligible coins. No?
  • hammer1hammer1 Posts: 3,874 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>I think you can but you have to submit those coins separate from the other 3 (those not eligible for FS) so it is a sacrifice of those 3 25th labels >>


    I don't understand. Submit a sealed box of five, get the 25th anniv. label on all five and add FS to the two eligible coins. No? >>



    Someone in one of these threads checked with PCGS, and I'm pretty sure he said you can't have both labels on the two rare ones.
  • I thought the post said you couldn't submit a sealed box and request both labels on just those 2 coins with the other 3 getting the 25th label....the only way was to open the box and submit just those two coins...

    I may have interpreted it incorrectly but it does kinda make sense....
  • ObiwancanoliObiwancanoli Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭
    I hadn't seen this before, and so am posting here for everyone's benefit... found it on Mint News Blog - some already know these meanings, but here goes:
      The Mint uses the word "backorder" in a different way most people are familiar with. Most companies are sellers, not manufacturers, so when an item is on "backorder", that means they've run out of the item, and need to order more from the manufacturer. That may takes days, weeks or even months...
        The Mint is both manufacturer and seller, so when they say "backorder", they mean that the order is backed up until the coins are minted, assembled, and then shipped to the fulfillment center for mailing.
          The Mint uses "Hold" to mean that they need time to veriufy that the order is legitimate (in this case, not more than 5 sets per household) and that the customer's credit card has sufficient funds [and an updated expiration date].
            "In Process" means that verification has been done, and now all it takes is for the Mint to see if there are enough sets ready for mailing.
              "In stock and reserved" means that the coins have been assembled into sets and are ready to be shipped to the fulfillment center, and that all verifications have been made. At this point, the Mint has ACCEPTED the order - prior to this, the Mint has only RECEIVED the order. Once the set is labeled for mailing, then you will receive a "Shipped" notice and tracking number (though the actual mailing date may be the next day).
                To sum up, once you see "In Process" and/or In Stock and Reserved", you can safely assume that you will get your coins. "Hold" and "Backorder" does not mean that you will not get your coins.

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              • DeepCoinDeepCoin Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭
                Does anyone have a sense of what order number was near the sellout at 4:30? Obviously this is a guess, but it would be interesting to know.
                Retired United States Mint guy, now working on an Everyman Type Set.
              • OnedollarnohollarOnedollarnohollar Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭✭
                .....Is PCGS going to release an official statement as to how these will be handled so there's no need for speculation? These should all just say First Strike 25th Anniversary because of the fact they all sold within five hours and were only sold in sets. Seems simple enough to me. I just want PCGS to clarify. image
              • OPAOPA Posts: 17,119 ✭✭✭✭✭


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                << <i>

                << <i>I think you can but you have to submit those coins separate from the other 3 (those not eligible for FS) so it is a sacrifice of those 3 25th labels >>


                I don't understand. Submit a sealed box of five, get the 25th anniv. label on all five and add FS to the two eligible coins. No? >>



                Someone in one of these threads checked with PCGS, and I'm pretty sure he said you can't have both labels on the two rare ones. >>



                That would not make any sense .. from what I understand, as of right now, but it may change, only 2 of the coins will be eligible for the FS label in addition to the 25th anniv. set label, if submitted in the sealed mint package prior to the 30 days window, which is also applicable if you want to receive the 25th anniv. label for the 3 coins that are already in existence.
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              • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,082 ✭✭✭✭✭


                << <i>Thanks for the tip on Quick Checkout option ......But how is best way to find it? >>



                There is no initial option for it. Once you are able to get in and complete an order, you just click on the continue shopping option.
                theknowitalltroll;
              • commacomma Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭
                I got an email directly from ebay outlining how to report pre-sales on ebay for the sets and asking me to do so...

              • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭


                << <i>I got an email directly from ebay outlining how to report pre-sales on ebay for the sets and asking me to do so... >>



                wow, they want you to be the ebay police and do it for free

                some here may not have anything better today than report these 7/24

                they must have very sad lives
              • commacomma Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭


                << <i>

                << <i>I got an email directly from ebay outlining how to report pre-sales on ebay for the sets and asking me to do so... >>



                wow, they want you to be the ebay police and do it for free

                some here may not have anything better today than report these 7/24

                they must have very sad lives >>



                I was thinking the exact same thing...
              • pitbosspitboss Posts: 8,643 ✭✭✭


                << <i>I got an email directly from ebay outlining how to report pre-sales on ebay for the sets and asking me to do so... >>




                I tried to do that with some of the real bad ones and nothing happened to them. Good luck with that.
              • This is an interesting scenario, could it work?
                Maybe at least make it on to the wait list?

                From bullionstacker.com



                << <i>Postby silvermotor on Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:52 pm I just noticed that I have one A25 set, in my cart at the USMint web site. What are the chances that the transaction can be completed, and that I could actually receive the item? Any thoughts, :idea: or should I just zero out the quantity and clean-out the cart. :?: SM >>




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              • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
                Crap, I was confused before and now that I've read a couple of the last pages, I'm even more confused! image
              • ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭
                "5 units back ordered. Expected to ship on 11/14/2011."
                Order number:3841XXXX

                If there is a chance greater than 0% that my order will be fulfilled I would be surprised.

                Anyone have a higher order # than me?
                image
              • derrybderryb Posts: 36,793 ✭✭✭✭✭


                << <i>Thanks for the tip on Quick Checkout option ......But how is best way to find it? >>


                enable Quick Checkout in "My Account" and you never have to do it again.

                "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

              • So is there any chance of gettting a set if ordered at 917pm est. on the 27th. Obviously on the waiting list, but I'm thinking I'm out.


              • << <i>

                << <i>Thanks for the tip on Quick Checkout option ......But how is best way to find it? >>


                enable Quick Checkout in "My Account" and you never have to do it again. >>


                My account was set up for Quick Checkout but for some reason when I was ordering the ATB set, the Quick Checkout option didn't show.


              • << <i>I got an email directly from ebay outlining how to report pre-sales on ebay for the sets and asking me to do so... >>



                Can you post the contents of this email please ?


              • << <i>I got an email directly from ebay outlining how to report pre-sales on ebay for the sets and asking me to do so... >>



                I'm calling BS on that one.
              • commacomma Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭


                << <i>

                << <i>I got an email directly from ebay outlining how to report pre-sales on ebay for the sets and asking me to do so... >>



                I'm calling BS on that one. >>



                This is directly from the email:


                In this line, 2011 25th Silver Eagle Anniversary set is not yet allowed
                to be listed on site. I understand that you see other sellers listing
                the same items.

                To report a policy violation from a listing:

                1. Go to the listing for the item you want to report.
                2. Click the Report item link on the right side of the page under the
                Other item info section.
                3. From the drop-down menus, choose the reason for your report.
                4. Make sure the listing is really violating an eBay policy by reviewing
                the relevant help page. You can review the page by clicking the link
                that appears on the report form.
                5. Click Continue.
                6. On the next page, fill in any additional information requested and
                click Send.

                Furthermore, we'd like to congratulate you for maintaining a 5.0 score
                in the Shipping and Handling Charges criteria of your Detailed Seller
                Rating for the past 12 months while maintaining a 100% positive
                feedback. This just reflects that your buyers were very happy with the
                products you are selling. Good job!

                I'm glad that I was able to clarify that these items cannot be listed on
                eBay yet. I understand how this can be frustrating on your end and we
                apololgize for the inconvenience. I have also provided you with the
                steps for your reference on how to report other members that are in
                violaation of this guideline.

                It is my pleasure to assist you. Thank you for choosing eBay.
              • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,082 ✭✭✭✭✭


                << <i>I got an email directly from ebay outlining how to report pre-sales on ebay for the sets and asking me to do so... >>



                they should know how to search and destroy. let them do it. then again if you wanna rein in prices just search and send em the linky and let them have at it.
                theknowitalltroll;
              • ajmanajman Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭
                OT a bit but I was checking prices realized on ebay for the 20th anniversary sets and they seem to be averaging $350- $375 for raw sets. I'll bet long term these 25th anniversary sets will bring 3x their issue price or more as well.
                Beer is Proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy -Benjamin Franklin-


              • << <i>

                << <i>

                << <i>I got an email directly from ebay outlining how to report pre-sales on ebay for the sets and asking me to do so... >>



                I'm calling BS on that one. >>



                This is directly from the email:


                In this line, 2011 25th Silver Eagle Anniversary set is not yet allowed
                to be listed on site. I understand that you see other sellers listing
                the same items.

                To report a policy violation from a listing:

                1. Go to the listing for the item you want to report.
                2. Click the Report item link on the right side of the page under the
                Other item info section.
                3. From the drop-down menus, choose the reason for your report.
                4. Make sure the listing is really violating an eBay policy by reviewing
                the relevant help page. You can review the page by clicking the link
                that appears on the report form.
                5. Click Continue.
                6. On the next page, fill in any additional information requested and
                click Send.

                Furthermore, we'd like to congratulate you for maintaining a 5.0 score
                in the Shipping and Handling Charges criteria of your Detailed Seller
                Rating for the past 12 months while maintaining a 100% positive
                feedback. This just reflects that your buyers were very happy with the
                products you are selling. Good job!

                I'm glad that I was able to clarify that these items cannot be listed on
                eBay yet. I understand how this can be frustrating on your end and we
                apololgize for the inconvenience. I have also provided you with the
                steps for your reference on how to report other members that are in
                violaation of this guideline.

                It is my pleasure to assist you. Thank you for choosing eBay. >>




                Would it be true to say this is an email reply to you after one of your auctions was nuked and you complained about others being listed ?
              • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
                Is this the work of that feebay coin auction overview committee? image

                This will just add to the price craziness later.
              • Coins101Coins101 Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭


                << <i>I got an email directly from ebay outlining how to report pre-sales on ebay for the sets and asking me to do so... >>



                Funny. I can't count the number of times I have reported items and they do nothing. how they are asking for help? They can go take a fking fly leap of a cliff as far as I am concerned.
              • commacomma Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭


                << <i>


                Would it be true to say this is an email reply to you after one of your auctions was nuked and you complained about others being listed ? >>



                Nope, not fair to say that. Didn't complain about anything.
                I emailed them and asked what their regulations on the "presale" was. Because people were saying ebay wasn't allowing them, and others saying they were if you could guarantee you would ship within 30 days, among other things (which others who got their auctions ended have posted), this was part of their response.
              • commacomma Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭


                << <i>

                << <i>I got an email directly from ebay outlining how to report pre-sales on ebay for the sets and asking me to do so... >>



                Funny. I can't count the number of times I have reported items and they do nothing. how they are asking for help? They can go take a fking fly leap of a cliff as far as I am concerned. >>



                I agree
              • Does anyone know if there is a PCGS # for the 2011 Aemrican Eagle Uncirc coin (mint mark W) because so far there is none posted. This is what is available so far as far as #s for the 25th Ann sets:

                509185 2011 $1 Silver Eagle 25th Anniversary Set (bullion)
                509189 2011-S $1 Silver Eagle 25th Anniv. Set - First Strike (Uncirculated)
                509191 2011-W $1 Silver Eagle 25th Anniversary Set (Proof)
                509192 2011-P $1 Silver Eagle Reverse PR 25th Anniversary Set (Reverse Proof)
                509195 2011-P $1 Silver Eagle Reverse PR (Reverse Proof)


                There is one set of numbers missing which would be for the 2011 American Eagle Silver Uncirculated Coin (West Point)


              • << <i>Does anyone know if there is a PCGS # for the 2011 American Eagle Silver Uncirculated Coin (25th Anniversary Set label) because so far there is none posted. This is what is available so far as far as #s for the 25th Ann sets:

                509185 2011 $1 Silver Eagle 25th Anniversary Set (bullion)
                509189 2011-S $1 Silver Eagle 25th Anniv. Set - First Strike (Uncirculated)
                509191 2011-W $1 Silver Eagle 25th Anniversary Set (Proof)
                509192 2011-P $1 Silver Eagle Reverse PR 25th Anniversary Set (Reverse Proof)
                509195 2011-P $1 Silver Eagle Reverse PR (Reverse Proof)


                There is one set of numbers missing which would be for the 2011 American Eagle Silver Uncirculated Coin mint mark W >>

                So does this list mean all get 25th ann but only one gets FS if sent into grade (sealed box)? Also, just wondering, if we send in set/sets to grade ASAP, as in day received and Express, ANY chance of getting ours back before all the big retail sellers? OR do they get priority grading?
                Got it! No, do not see that on PCGS either (UNC W). I may call them when the sets get closer to delivery and ask my questions. Just too confusing to follow at this point. Thanks for the post.


              • << <i>

                << <i>

                << <i>I got an email directly from ebay outlining how to report pre-sales on ebay for the sets and asking me to do so... >>



                Funny. I can't count the number of times I have reported items and they do nothing. how they are asking for help? They can go take a fking fly leap of a cliff as far as I am concerned. >>



                I agree >>


                I've reported coin scam auctions to eBay and have them do nothing, not even write back telling me the auction is OK.
                Other times they act immediately and email me thanking me etc and so forth.
                If eBay was serious about stopping pre-sales of the ATB set, all they have to do is a search and nuke all the 25th Ann. sets listed, since, as far as I know, nobody is in actual possession of any sets yet.
                eBay's main concern is getting their fees and on more than one occasion have been known to look the other way at shady auctions.
                Just look at all the counterfeit US coins being offered from China, nothing is being done.
                In Canada, the RCMP put the heat on eBay and all but eliminated the sales of counterfeit Canadian coins.


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                << <i>


                Would it be true to say this is an email reply to you after one of your auctions was nuked and you complained about others being listed ? >>



                Nope, not fair to say that. Didn't complain about anything.
                I emailed them and asked what their regulations on the "presale" was. Because people were saying ebay wasn't allowing them, and others saying they were if you could guarantee you would ship within 30 days, among other things (which others who got their auctions ended have posted), this was part of their response. >>



                Thanks , its this part that is "confusing" , no worries.

                " I understand that you see other sellers listing
                the same items."

              • Not sure if it has been asked already but would PCGS send back the original packaging once your coins get graded? I remember when i sent my sealed UHR to get graded PVGS actually sent the original packaging back to me
              • derrybderryb Posts: 36,793 ✭✭✭✭✭


                << <i>Not sure if it has been asked already but would PCGS send back the original packaging once your coins get graded? I remember when i sent my sealed UHR to get graded PVGS actually sent the original packaging back to me >>


                Hopefully PCGS will post ASE set submission guidelines on their website. Other grading services are doing so.

                "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey



              • << <i>Not sure if it has been asked already but would PCGS send back the original packaging once your coins get graded? I remember when i sent my sealed UHR to get graded PVGS actually sent the original packaging back to me >>

                I believe they will since you have to send in a sealed box. Don't know if that is automatic though or if you have to specifically ask for it on the form.
              • pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,641 ✭✭✭
                The OGP packaging is returned. Part of the $8 handling fee. I always specify on my submission that I want the OGP returned to be safe.
              • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
                WTH.

                Let me see if I got this right.

                Feebay says 25th Anniversary set sale are not allowed.

                Hundreds of listings are present on feebay.

                I'm calling FUBAR.
              • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
                double post
              • Meanwhile there are 416 presales this morning on ebay. It's like they cancelled Comma's sale and then went on days off.
                Successful transactions with keepdachange, tizofthe, adriana, wondercoin
              • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
                Yes they will send you back OGP all you need to do is put it on the order form with the fee forgot how much that is now.But you can call and ask just keep the box sealed and you will be o.k.


                Hoard the keys.
              • 7over87over8 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭
                It's amazing what available "credit" does for these issues

                Just think, I had no problem phone ordering a 1995 10th Anniv set on Dec 31, 1995 at $999 per set. And they only could unload 31k of those all year!!!
              • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭


                << <i>"5 units back ordered. Expected to ship on 11/14/2011."
                Order number:3841XXXX

                If there is a chance greater than 0% that my order will be fulfilled I would be surprised.

                Anyone have a higher order # than me? >>

                I must be close to the end of the line my order # 38381xxx of 3 sets one of my set s was pulled so now it says 2 sets. I looked at my Email comfermation and it says 3 so they pulled one from me....image But if it gives one to some one that did not get one thats cool.image


                Hoard the keys.
              • JedPlanchetJedPlanchet Posts: 907 ✭✭✭


                << <i>
                  To sum up, once you see "In Process" and/or In Stock and Reserved", you can safely assume that you will get your coins. "Hold" and "Backorder" does not mean that you will not get your coins. >>



                  So, anyone see "In Process" yet?

                  Whatever you are, be a good one. ---- Abraham Lincoln
                • Question for the early orderers. Do any of you show "In Stock and Reserved" yet?
                • RarityRarity Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭✭


                  << <i>"5 units back ordered. Expected to ship on 11/14/2011."
                  Order number:3841XXXX

                  If there is a chance greater than 0% that my order will be fulfilled I would be surprised.

                  Anyone have a higher order # than me?

                  I must be close to the end of the line my order # 38381xxx of 3 sets one of my set s was pulled so now it says 2 sets. I looked at my Email comfermation and it says 3 so they pulled one from me....image But if it gives one to some one that did not get one thats cool.image >>






                  My friend's order begins with 38379xxx placed at 6:28pm EST time which I believe is after the cut off time.


                • << <i>.....Is PCGS going to release an official statement as to how these will be handled so there's no need for speculation? These should all just say First Strike 25th Anniversary because of the fact they all sold within five hours and were only sold in sets. Seems simple enough to me. I just want PCGS to clarify. image >>



                  It is not based on when sold but when shipped. If they drag the shipping out then some may not qualify. PCGS doesn't need to make a statement since they define the policy already.

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