I notice a lot of the ebay pre sellers are not specifying "sealed mint box." What are the chances they are buying 5, cherry picking one or two sets and dumping the rest?
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<< <i>I notice a lot of the ebay pre sellers are not specifying "sealed mint box." What are the chances they are buying 5, cherry picking one or two sets and dumping the rest? >>
I'd say that's a very good possibility. Even with an opened or unsealed set these are going to be a long time winner.
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<< <i>I notice a lot of the ebay pre sellers are not specifying "sealed mint box." What are the chances they are buying 5, cherry picking one or two sets and dumping the rest? >>
As long as the 2 keys are good one can cherry pick the other 3 as well or buy them as graded 70's and crack them out. A set out of the box is just like a coin cracked out of a TPG slab, once that happens all bets are off.
<< <i>Just checked my order status this morning and expected shipping date was changed from 11/11 to 11/12. >>
Yup, moving the DATE "forward" every day until they start shipping which,obviously, can't be the printed date because it always moves "forward" in the calendar
<< <i>Just checked my order status this morning and expected shipping date was changed from 11/11 to 11/12. >>
Yup, moving the DATE "forward" every day until they start shipping which,obviously, can't be the printed date because it always moves "forward" in the calendar >>
Nothing unusual---standard operating procedure for the mint.
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Ya...what happened to no ebay? Enay removed my listing days ago and the email said if you tried to relist one they could ban your account... Not risking that! I'll wait until they are in hand when prices will probably be even higher...
Question: When selling on eBay, is it possible to prevent people with low FB from bidding on your auction? >>
I was wondering the same thing...or if you can just have a buy it now and make the buyer have to contact you first (or something) I contacted ebay about this and ask it in the answer center on ebay with NO response whatsoever...helpful ebay community... I think the short answer is no though. I know you can make it so someone who has gotten neg. feedback recently can't bid, but I think that's it. I'd wait until you have the sets in the hand. Probably worth more, and it will be a little safer (sort of)
<< <i>Just checked my order status this morning and expected shipping date was changed from 11/11 to 11/12. >>
Yup, moving the DATE "forward" every day until they start shipping which,obviously, can't be the printed date because it always moves "forward" in the calendar >>
Nothing unusual---standard operating procedure for the mint. >>
My order,placed before 4:30, went from expected shipping date of Nov 11 to Nov 12 then back to Nov 11 yesterday and now again today it says Nov 12 again. ????
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<< <i>If these are seriously going for $800 I may break my never sell/flip rule and cash in my box of 2. >>
Personally, if they are already going this fast this high, it's only going to go up for a while as the supply keeps going down and the demand goes up! At least go up (or stay around 1k) until Christmas. My guess
<< <i>Just checked my order status this morning and expected shipping date was changed from 11/11 to 11/12. >>
Yup, moving the DATE "forward" every day until they start shipping which,obviously, can't be the printed date because it always moves "forward" in the calendar >>
Nothing unusual---standard operating procedure for the mint. >>
My order,placed before 4:30, went from expected shipping date of Nov 11 to Nov 12 then back to Nov 11 yesterday and now again today it says Nov 12 again. ???? >>
<< <i>If these are seriously going for $800 I may break my never sell/flip rule and cash in my box of 2. >>
Personally, if they are already going this fast this high, it's only going to go up for a while as the supply keeps going down and the demand goes up! At least go up (or stay around 1k) until Christmas. My guess >>
A lot buyers paying high price on ebay are flippers expecting the price to continue to go up. As long as they are buying, price will continue to go up as they will relist at highe price.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
<< <i>If these are seriously going for $800 I may break my never sell/flip rule and cash in my box of 2. >>
Personally, if they are already going this fast this high, it's only going to go up for a while as the supply keeps going down and the demand goes up! At least go up (or stay around 1k) until Christmas. My guess >>
That is anyones guess where it will be at Christmas. This is a frenzy going on now and it could die down at any time.
WoW looking at them prices on E-Bay makes the $50 to $100 over mint price not look good, Makes it look like the dealer is up to there old tricks but for the dealer it could have droped like a rock but i know that was not going to happen . And does not look good for the seller to dealer deal. But we told them to just hold on to them for a week or so. But A deal is a deal But that is just me.
Yes. $5K for sealed box of 5 is now a low ball. I think 400,000 collectors got shut out on this set. Selling to dealers for only $100 profit is a mistake.
Just talked with the Mint and ask if she had heard about reducing order quantities?
She said no.......BUT there were lots of complaints about big dealers making offers to others so they could get 100s of sets.
Ask her how much longer b4 these start going to RESERVED, IN STOCK, she said it would be pretty soon. Said they were trying to meet the 2 week window on shipping.
The quicker these come off hold the better......Monday should be interesting.
<< <i>Just talked with the Mint and ask if she had heard about reducing order quantities?
She said no.......BUT there were lots of complaints about big dealers making offers to others so they could get 100s of sets.
Ask her how much longer b4 these start going to RESERVED, IN STOCK, she said it would be pretty soon. Said they were trying to meet the 2 week window on shipping.
The quicker these come off hold the better......Monday should be interesting. >>
<< <i>If these are seriously going for $800 I may break my never sell/flip rule and cash in my box of 2. >>
Personally, if they are already going this fast this high, it's only going to go up for a while as the supply keeps going down and the demand goes up! At least go up (or stay around 1k) until Christmas. My guess >>
A lot buyers paying high price on ebay are flippers expecting the price to continue to go up. As long as they are buying, price will continue to go up as they will relist at highe price. >>
But the demand is so high...it's hard to tell if the people on ebay are really the ones setting the market right now...who knows how many people are waiting for the price to go down...at any time they could step in, sending it back up... It's all speculation though at this point
Order quantities were set by the US Mint and these were not bought by say only 10 bullion dealers and monopolized by them like what happened with the ATB's. The US Mint can see that there were hundreds of buyers at least for these sets. Whoever got in....got in...its like the lottery. Nobody's complaining why there is only One winner when you win the lottery even though millions paid to participate right Why would they complain about dealers trying to buy sets from the folks who were able to order these sets? Last time i look were called The United States of America...Not The People's Republic of China.
I tryed just like every one else. I got in late got 5 for now if it dont cancel. I am mad but at the server ever time I made it to check out it kicked me off or I would have had my set's by 9:30 but every time I got that far boom bang kicked off now that sucked the big one.... but thats life wont be fun if you win all the time. But that is just me now on pins and nidels to see if it get's canceled..
Not everyone can win. There were more buyers than there were prizes.
All accounts were limited to the same amount of sets. All callers faced the same challenges to get an order in. Some got in, some didn't. Still don't know if my order got in on time, but if it didn't, no sour grapes.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
<< <i>Greg H. put it best - "It was a mint lottery."
Not everyone can win. There were more buyers than there were prizes.
All accounts were limited to the same amount of sets. All callers faced the same challenges to get an order in. Some got in, some didn't. Still don't know if my order got in on time, but if it didn't, no sour grapes. >>
If you got in before around 4:40 EDT you should be ok.
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I'd be willing to bet a fair number of people on the wait list will get there coins. This happens a lot, and I'm sure the time the wait list was posted (app.434p) is not the be all, end all.
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When will the mint begin hitting the credit cards? In other words, when do you need the $1505 in your account if you ordered 5 sets? My expected ship date is 11/12/11.
<< <i>I tryed just like every one else. I got in late got 5 for now if it dont cancel. I am mad but at the server ever time I made it to check out it kicked me off or I would have had my set's by 9:30 but every time I got that far boom bang kicked off now that sucked the big one.... but thats life wont be fun if you win all the time. But that is just me now on pins and nidels to see if it get's canceled.. >>
Was it the server, your ISP or your browser? I got nowhere with FireFox, but things went pretty quick with Google Chrome.
<< <i>When will the mint begin hitting the credit cards? In other words, when do you need the $1505 in your account if you ordered 5 sets? My expected ship date is 11/12/11. >>
If your credit limit will not allow the mint to hit the card, you need to make an on line payment ASAP to get your available limit where it should be. They will cancel your order after a second unsuccessful attempt to hit the card. If you have another card (in your name) with available credit you can call mint customer service and have them update you to the new CC.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
<< <i>When will the mint begin hitting the credit cards? In other words, when do you need the $1505 in your account if you ordered 5 sets? My expected ship date is 11/12/11. >>
I don't understand why it takes them so long to fill these orders.
<< <i>When will the mint begin hitting the credit cards? In other words, when do you need the $1505 in your account if you ordered 5 sets? My expected ship date is 11/12/11. >>
I don't understand why it takes them so long to fill these orders. >>
Most times they fill orders earlier than the projected ship date. I expect them to do so with these since sets should have already been on the shelf at the distributer's warehouse. Just a matter of processing now.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
<< <i>When will the mint begin hitting the credit cards? In other words, when do you need the $1505 in your account if you ordered 5 sets? My expected ship date is 11/12/11. >>
I don't understand why it takes them so long to fill these orders. >>
Most times they fill orders earlier than the projected ship date. I expect them to do so with these since sets should have already been on the shelf at the distributer's warehouse. Just a matter of processing now. >>
If you ordered a 2011 proof set they would probably ship it monday so why can't they do the same with these?
Yes, once it goes from hold to in process, the next step is usually the package at your door a few days later. You'll get a notice it shipped after you are already marvelling over the attractive cardboard shipping box. (Remember: don't open them.)
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<< <i>Yes. $5K for sealed box of 5 is now a low ball. I think 400,000 collectors got shut out on this set. Selling to dealers for only $100 profit is a mistake. >>
Yep, but hopefully the graded set will salve the wound better than the $400 - $500 quick flip profit. Even the mint must be kicking their own ass.
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And anyone behind them could cancel their order and move up one spot, but they are still way down the list! >>
Are the cancel boxes up yet? Mine isn't. >>
Comma you stay away from those red cancel boxes.
MJ >>
What? I didn't write that...
<< <i>I just don't see all the hype. Unless your trying to buy low and sell high. >>
Kinda hard to buy any lower than issue price, no? I think most people were just trying to buy period.
Aren't they 2011 bullion??????????
Drunner
<< <i>I guess I didn't see anything here that was of meaning to me . . are they sold in Doilies????????
Aren't they 2011 bullion??????????
Drunner >>
Keep flying nothing to see here.
Fred, Las Vegas, NV
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
<< <i>I notice a lot of the ebay pre sellers are not specifying "sealed mint box." What are the chances they are buying 5, cherry picking one or two sets and dumping the rest? >>
I'd say that's a very good possibility. Even with an opened or unsealed set these are going to be a long time winner.
<< <i>Dang! I shoulda bought one! I'm in the minority, I know, but bullion just doesn't grab me. >>
Its ok you were Justlooking...
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<< <i>I wonder who will be the first to obtain 10,000 sets even though its 5 per customer?..............................
Most people had a hard time even getting one set never mind 10,000!
<< <i>I notice a lot of the ebay pre sellers are not specifying "sealed mint box." What are the chances they are buying 5, cherry picking one or two sets and dumping the rest? >>
As long as the 2 keys are good one can cherry pick the other 3 as well or buy them as graded 70's and crack them out. A set out of the box is just like a coin cracked out of a TPG slab, once that happens all bets are off.
<< <i>Just checked my order status this morning and expected shipping date was changed from 11/11 to 11/12. >>
Yup, moving the DATE "forward" every day until they start shipping which,obviously, can't be the printed date because it always moves "forward" in the calendar
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<< <i>Just checked my order status this morning and expected shipping date was changed from 11/11 to 11/12. >>
Yup, moving the DATE "forward" every day until they start shipping which,obviously, can't be the printed date because it always moves "forward" in the calendar >>
Nothing unusual---standard operating procedure for the mint.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
I thought ebay was eliminating presales!
Look at this set....not completed yet
Does NOT say the set is sealed:
Gulp
<< <i>hate those bidders with zero feedback.. >>
Question: When selling on eBay, is it possible to prevent people with low FB from bidding on your auction?
Enay removed my listing days ago and the email said if you tried to relist one they could ban your account...
Not risking that! I'll wait until they are in hand when prices will probably be even higher...
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<< <i>hate those bidders with zero feedback.. >>
Question: When selling on eBay, is it possible to prevent people with low FB from bidding on your auction?
I was wondering the same thing...or if you can just have a buy it now and make the buyer have to contact you first (or something)
I contacted ebay about this and ask it in the answer center on ebay with NO response whatsoever...helpful ebay community...
I think the short answer is no though. I know you can make it so someone who has gotten neg. feedback recently can't bid, but I think that's it.
I'd wait until you have the sets in the hand. Probably worth more, and it will be a little safer (sort of)
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<< <i>Just checked my order status this morning and expected shipping date was changed from 11/11 to 11/12. >>
Yup, moving the DATE "forward" every day until they start shipping which,obviously, can't be the printed date because it always moves "forward" in the calendar >>
Nothing unusual---standard operating procedure for the mint. >>
My order,placed before 4:30, went from expected shipping date of Nov 11 to Nov 12 then back to Nov 11 yesterday and now again today it says Nov 12 again.
????
<< <i>If these are seriously going for $800 I may break my never sell/flip rule and cash in my box of 2. >>
Personally, if they are already going this fast this high, it's only going to go up for a while as the supply keeps going down and the demand goes up!
At least go up (or stay around 1k) until Christmas. My guess
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<< <i>Just checked my order status this morning and expected shipping date was changed from 11/11 to 11/12. >>
Yup, moving the DATE "forward" every day until they start shipping which,obviously, can't be the printed date because it always moves "forward" in the calendar >>
Nothing unusual---standard operating procedure for the mint. >>
My order,placed before 4:30, went from expected shipping date of Nov 11 to Nov 12 then back to Nov 11 yesterday and now again today it says Nov 12 again.
???? >>
....and tomorrow it will say 11/13
thats maybe why their not taken them off.
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<< <i>If these are seriously going for $800 I may break my never sell/flip rule and cash in my box of 2. >>
Personally, if they are already going this fast this high, it's only going to go up for a while as the supply keeps going down and the demand goes up!
At least go up (or stay around 1k) until Christmas. My guess >>
A lot buyers paying high price on ebay are flippers expecting the price to continue to go up. As long as they are buying, price will continue to go up as they will relist at highe price.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
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<< <i>If these are seriously going for $800 I may break my never sell/flip rule and cash in my box of 2. >>
Personally, if they are already going this fast this high, it's only going to go up for a while as the supply keeps going down and the demand goes up!
At least go up (or stay around 1k) until Christmas. My guess >>
That is anyones guess where it will be at Christmas. This is a frenzy going on now and it could die down at any time.
Hoard the keys.
Box of 20
She said no.......BUT there were lots of complaints about big dealers making offers to others so they could get 100s of sets.
Ask her how much longer b4 these start going to RESERVED, IN STOCK, she said it would be pretty soon. Said they were trying to meet the 2 week window on shipping.
The quicker these come off hold the better......Monday should be interesting.
<< <i>Just talked with the Mint and ask if she had heard about reducing order quantities?
She said no.......BUT there were lots of complaints about big dealers making offers to others so they could get 100s of sets.
Ask her how much longer b4 these start going to RESERVED, IN STOCK, she said it would be pretty soon. Said they were trying to meet the 2 week window on shipping.
The quicker these come off hold the better......Monday should be interesting. >>
What's "better" in your opinion?
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<< <i>If these are seriously going for $800 I may break my never sell/flip rule and cash in my box of 2. >>
Personally, if they are already going this fast this high, it's only going to go up for a while as the supply keeps going down and the demand goes up!
At least go up (or stay around 1k) until Christmas. My guess >>
A lot buyers paying high price on ebay are flippers expecting the price to continue to go up. As long as they are buying, price will continue to go up as they will relist at highe price. >>
But the demand is so high...it's hard to tell if the people on ebay are really the ones setting the market right now...who knows how many people are waiting for the price to go down...at any time they could step in, sending it back up...
It's all speculation though at this point
<< <i>Waitaminute.....I thought ebay was canceling presales? Or were they just targeting people they didn't like for some reason? >>
eBay is probably canceling pre-sales that have been reported to them, either by do-gooders or competitors.
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Hoard the keys.
Not everyone can win. There were more buyers than there were prizes.
All accounts were limited to the same amount of sets. All callers faced the same challenges to get an order in. Some got in, some didn't. Still don't know if my order got in on time, but if it didn't, no sour grapes.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
<< <i>Greg H. put it best - "It was a mint lottery."
Not everyone can win. There were more buyers than there were prizes.
All accounts were limited to the same amount of sets. All callers faced the same challenges to get an order in. Some got in, some didn't. Still don't know if my order got in on time, but if it didn't, no sour grapes. >>
If you got in before around 4:40 EDT you should be ok.
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"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
<< <i>I tryed just like every one else. I got in late got 5 for now if it dont cancel. I am mad but at the server ever time I made it to check out it kicked me off or I would have had my set's by 9:30 but every time I got that far boom bang kicked off now that sucked the big one.... but thats life wont be fun if you win all the time. But that is just me now on pins and nidels to see if it get's canceled..
Was it the server, your ISP or your browser? I got nowhere with FireFox, but things went pretty quick with Google Chrome.
<< <i>When will the mint begin hitting the credit cards? In other words, when do you need the $1505 in your account if you ordered 5 sets? My expected ship date is 11/12/11. >>
If your credit limit will not allow the mint to hit the card, you need to make an on line payment ASAP to get your available limit where it should be. They will cancel your order after a second unsuccessful attempt to hit the card. If you have another card (in your name) with available credit you can call mint customer service and have them update you to the new CC.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
<< <i>When will the mint begin hitting the credit cards? In other words, when do you need the $1505 in your account if you ordered 5 sets? My expected ship date is 11/12/11. >>
I don't understand why it takes them so long to fill these orders.
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<< <i>When will the mint begin hitting the credit cards? In other words, when do you need the $1505 in your account if you ordered 5 sets? My expected ship date is 11/12/11. >>
I don't understand why it takes them so long to fill these orders. >>
Most times they fill orders earlier than the projected ship date. I expect them to do so with these since sets should have already been on the shelf at the distributer's warehouse. Just a matter of processing now.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
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<< <i>When will the mint begin hitting the credit cards? In other words, when do you need the $1505 in your account if you ordered 5 sets? My expected ship date is 11/12/11. >>
I don't understand why it takes them so long to fill these orders. >>
Most times they fill orders earlier than the projected ship date. I expect them to do so with these since sets should have already been on the shelf at the distributer's warehouse. Just a matter of processing now. >>
If you ordered a 2011 proof set they would probably ship it monday so why can't they do the same with these?
(Remember: don't open them.)
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
<< <i>Yes. $5K for sealed box of 5 is now a low ball. I think 400,000 collectors got shut out on this set. Selling to dealers for only $100 profit is a mistake. >>
Yep, but hopefully the graded set will salve the wound better than the $400 - $500 quick flip profit. Even the mint must be kicking their own ass.
And at what price would you consider opening your sealed box of 5 and selling them individually?