If anybody is thinking about going after the 1937 Globo Chewing Gum lot in Legendary I need two cards in it -- Tommy Farr and Decico. PM me if you want some partial help on the group. Thanks
i only want one of the La Morena cards in the legendary auction ...anyone going for it? I want a wrestler.
BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
Well there are only two wrestlers in the lot, does a boxing collector really care about those cards?
BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
Probably not. If you could find out who won it and contact them you would probably be able to work out a deal but I don't think they're going to throw those two cards up on ebay or anything. Good luck.
That is my intent, is to find out who will win the lot and see if they will part with the two cards.
BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
<< <i>If anybody is thinking about going after the 1937 Globo Chewing Gum lot in Legendary I need two cards in it -- Tommy Farr and Decico. PM me if you want some partial help on the group. Thanks >>
Starting price is a little high, no? I know they are (sorta) tough. You just gotta know where to look, and I think you know where to look. Speaking of knowing where to look, I think I might be able to help you out with decico. I think (pretty sure) I have one buried in a shoebox. I'll get back to you when I find it, or I will just send it you. I think I still have your address. -Alan
"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."
<< <i>I picked up this beauty recently...I have been looking for a nicely centered PSA 7. Most are not well centered. This one is slightly diamond cut.
<< <i>If anybody is thinking about going after the 1937 Globo Chewing Gum lot in Legendary I need two cards in it -- Tommy Farr and Decico. PM me if you want some partial help on the group. Thanks >>
Starting price is a little high, no? I know they are (sorta) tough. You just gotta know where to look, and I think you know where to look. Speaking of knowing where to look, I think I might be able to help you out with decico. I think (pretty sure) I have one buried in a shoebox. I'll get back to you when I find it, or I will just send it you. I think I still have your address. -Alan >>
Thanks Alan, I appreciate it.
Yes, the price seems kind of high for the lot considering it's practically all commons (I think Tunero might get a slight bump but pretty negligible in the grand scheme of things). But these also don't show up in highly exposed auctions much and I've seen a few individual commons sell for $20/ea on ebay, probably collectors just looking for a type card. I find some small amount of solace in the fact that the Dreiers only had 10 commons from the set. Lord knows they had everything else under the sun and a ton of stuff that still isn't known outside their collection.
<< <i>If anybody is thinking about going after the 1937 Globo Chewing Gum lot in Legendary I need two cards in it -- Tommy Farr and Decico. PM me if you want some partial help on the group. Thanks >>
Starting price is a little high, no? I know they are (sorta) tough. You just gotta know where to look, and I think you know where to look. Speaking of knowing where to look, I think I might be able to help you out with decico. I think (pretty sure) I have one buried in a shoebox. I'll get back to you when I find it, or I will just send it you. I think I still have your address. -Alan >>
Thanks Alan, I appreciate it.
Yes, the price seems kind of high for the lot considering it's practically all commons (I think Tunero might get a slight bump but pretty negligible in the grand scheme of things). But these also don't show up in highly exposed auctions much and I've seen a few individual commons sell for $20/ea on ebay, probably collectors just looking for a type card. I find some small amount of solace in the fact that the Dreiers only had 10 commons from the set. Lord knows they had everything else under the sun and a ton of stuff that still isn't known outside their collection. >>
You're welcome. Are those the only two you are missing? Also, I know the cycling set/album was released in 1936 (i have seen the album for those). Was the boxing as well, or have you found an album indicating a 1937 release? I ask because I was trying to help a collectors (General Jim, I think) date the Jesse Owens I sold him.
"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."
Those are just the two from that particular lot that I need. I still need 5 boxers (Tommy Farr, John Lewis, Decico, Angelmann, and Montana) and probably a dozen or so more nonboxers (including Jesse Owens).
I have a photocopy of a complete album, there's no date information on it. But there are a few references in the nonboxer side to 1937 and the Joe Louis references his fight against Tommy Farr in August of 1937 so they certainly weren't issued before 1937. An overwhelming majority of references on the back of the cards are to 1935 and 1936 so I believe late-1937 is the most logical issue time.
Globo produced many different card sets in the 1930s so the cycling one in 1936 shouldn't be considered any insight to this issue.
The La Morena lot went for a lot, I wish I knew who won it as I need the one wrestling card! #166 Joe Stecher
BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
Those are so tough to find I can't imagine that anyone would replicate that collection of La Morena boxing cards!
BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
Probably semantics but I think the Angola set (which mirrors the La Morena but is from Portugal, I believe) is even harder. Fewer known copies from that set than the La Morena.
Do you have scans of that set? I was referencing someone having another La Morena set and not necessarily comparing it to others....
BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
I know what you meant, I was just bringing up the Angola cards because the fronts mirror the La Morenas. I only have a handful of cards from the Angola set, here's the Tunney and the Loughran:
And here's where they differ from the La Morenas, the back:
ETA: Obviously, the La Morenas are colorized too, but the the fronts (images, numbering) all mirror the Angola set.
I wonder if the wrestlers made it into the Angola set, I assume they did? I have yet to see one if they were.....
BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
I believe all of the cards are in the set. Obviously, there's no way to know for certain until the card actually shows up but the baseball and boxing cards match up so it's a safe assumption.
Do you know of anyone that has these cards? Are they on the pop report at all? I think the La Morena are in baseball when they should be foreign or a multisport issue....
BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
PSA lists the Angola cards (including baseball) in the foreign card section of their pop report, 1928. The La Morena they have listed as 1929 and I believe they put the baseball cards from that set in the baseball section because the foreign section only lists boxers.
You should know, if you're going to go searching for these, that Sociedade Industrial de Tabacos la Angola (or whatever their full name is) produced multiple sets. I've seen another, that I believe is from 1930-32, that has an almost identical back but with different fronts and different subjects. The cards have a white border on the front. I picked up all the boxers in the set but I'm not sure if there are any wrestling cards in it.
But I'd be willing to bet there's a ton of uncatalogued wrestling cards from foreign countries. I don't look for them so I doubt I'd remember if I'd seen any but there are Cuban wrestling cards as early as 1915 and I've seen a ton of wrestling cards from Spain in the 1940s-1960s era. You probably know about a lot of them but if wrestling is anything like boxing then there are probably new sets surfacing all the time. The wild west mentality of boxing cards is one of the things I'm drawn to about it.
I believe you'd mentioned a Lurati Chocolates - Jack Dempsey recently. Do you happen to know the year of this release? Sorry for the horrible iphone picture - it's a lazy Sunday...
I don't. The set is a huge issue with actors/actresses and others from varying sports (mostly soccer). I've tried to cross reference the actors and try to pin down a release date but I doubt we'll ever be able to do it without the help of an album, if there even is one. There's also a Gene Tunney card in the set, and while it depicts a young Tunney, his inclusion likely means the set is no earlier than 1926.
<< <i>I don't. The set is a huge issue with actors/actresses and others from varying sports (mostly soccer). I've tried to cross reference the actors and try to pin down a release date but I doubt we'll ever be able to do it without the help of an album, if there even is one. There's also a Gene Tunney card in the set, and while it depicts a young Tunney, his inclusion likely means the set is no earlier than 1926.
With regards to the Lurati cards, a couple of months ago, I spent the afternoon going through the soccer players featured on them. Using known rosters, I was able to conclude that the cards feature players on 1927-28 rosters. I wrote in my notes that I thought the set was issued in 1928. Of course, I can't find the piece of paper I used to cross-reference all the players/teams they were on in 1927-28, but I have been going on that assumption ever since. I seem to recall coming to the conclusion that they were a 1928 issue because of the fact that a bunch of guys changed teams for the 1928-29 season (and some even retired before the 28-29 season). I also came to the same conclusion based on the fact that a number of players featured on Lurati cards didn't play for the team they were assigned to prior to the 1927-28 season. So 1928 became the most logical date for me to use.
"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."
<< <i>I don't. The set is a huge issue with actors/actresses and others from varying sports (mostly soccer). I've tried to cross reference the actors and try to pin down a release date but I doubt we'll ever be able to do it without the help of an album, if there even is one. There's also a Gene Tunney card in the set, and while it depicts a young Tunney, his inclusion likely means the set is no earlier than 1926.
With regards to the Lurati cards, a couple of months ago, I spent the afternoon going through the soccer players featured on them. Using known rosters, I was able to conclude that the cards feature players on 1927-28 rosters. I wrote in my notes that I thought the set was issued in 1928. Of course, I can't find the piece of paper I used to cross-reference all the players/teams they were on in 1927-28, but I have been going on that assumption ever since. I seem to recall coming to the conclusion that they were a 1928 issue because of the fact that a bunch of guys changed teams for the 1928-29 season (and some even retired before the 28-29 season). I also came to the same conclusion based on the fact that a number of players featured on Lurati cards didn't play for the team they were assigned to prior to the 1927-28 season. So 1928 became the most logical date for me to use. >>
Great info, Alan - thank you. I had "1930s" listed, but I like 1928 a lot better. I appreciate you chiming in on that.
Interesting. I know they were released over the course of many years but I've never seen them referenced as early as 1926. An overwhelming number of other cards in the set can be dated to the early- to mid-1930s.
A 1956 Japanese Primo Carnera card that I picked up of him later in his career as a pro wrestler. This card was part of a larger set of pro wrestlers, sumo wrestlers, actors, actresses and comedians.
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Jeff
Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
<< <i>If anybody is thinking about going after the 1937 Globo Chewing Gum lot in Legendary I need two cards in it -- Tommy Farr and Decico. PM me if you want some partial help on the group. Thanks >>
Starting price is a little high, no? I know they are (sorta) tough. You just gotta know where to look, and I think you know where to look. Speaking of knowing where to look, I think I might be able to help you out with decico. I think (pretty sure) I have one buried in a shoebox. I'll get back to you when I find it, or I will just send it you. I think I still have your address. -Alan
<< <i>I picked up this beauty recently...I have been looking for a nicely centered PSA 7. Most are not well centered. This one is slightly diamond cut.
That's a beaut!
Jeff
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<< <i>If anybody is thinking about going after the 1937 Globo Chewing Gum lot in Legendary I need two cards in it -- Tommy Farr and Decico. PM me if you want some partial help on the group. Thanks >>
Starting price is a little high, no? I know they are (sorta) tough. You just gotta know where to look, and I think you know where to look. Speaking of knowing where to look, I think I might be able to help you out with decico. I think (pretty sure) I have one buried in a shoebox. I'll get back to you when I find it, or I will just send it you. I think I still have your address. -Alan >>
Thanks Alan, I appreciate it.
Yes, the price seems kind of high for the lot considering it's practically all commons (I think Tunero might get a slight bump but pretty negligible in the grand scheme of things). But these also don't show up in highly exposed auctions much and I've seen a few individual commons sell for $20/ea on ebay, probably collectors just looking for a type card. I find some small amount of solace in the fact that the Dreiers only had 10 commons from the set. Lord knows they had everything else under the sun and a ton of stuff that still isn't known outside their collection.
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<< <i>If anybody is thinking about going after the 1937 Globo Chewing Gum lot in Legendary I need two cards in it -- Tommy Farr and Decico. PM me if you want some partial help on the group. Thanks >>
Starting price is a little high, no? I know they are (sorta) tough. You just gotta know where to look, and I think you know where to look. Speaking of knowing where to look, I think I might be able to help you out with decico. I think (pretty sure) I have one buried in a shoebox. I'll get back to you when I find it, or I will just send it you. I think I still have your address. -Alan >>
Thanks Alan, I appreciate it.
Yes, the price seems kind of high for the lot considering it's practically all commons (I think Tunero might get a slight bump but pretty negligible in the grand scheme of things). But these also don't show up in highly exposed auctions much and I've seen a few individual commons sell for $20/ea on ebay, probably collectors just looking for a type card. I find some small amount of solace in the fact that the Dreiers only had 10 commons from the set. Lord knows they had everything else under the sun and a ton of stuff that still isn't known outside their collection. >>
You're welcome. Are those the only two you are missing? Also, I know the cycling set/album was released in 1936 (i have seen the album for those). Was the boxing as well, or have you found an album indicating a 1937 release? I ask because I was trying to help a collectors (General Jim, I think) date the Jesse Owens I sold him.
I have a photocopy of a complete album, there's no date information on it. But there are a few references in the nonboxer side to 1937 and the Joe Louis references his fight against Tommy Farr in August of 1937 so they certainly weren't issued before 1937. An overwhelming majority of references on the back of the cards are to 1935 and 1936 so I believe late-1937 is the most logical issue time.
Globo produced many different card sets in the 1930s so the cycling one in 1936 shouldn't be considered any insight to this issue.
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<< <i>It's probably as smashed as any card I own, but it's pretty tough to find the Jeffries from this set, so I'll take this one for now!
Scott - I somehow missed this card in the thread. Absolutely awesome in any condition! Congrats!
Jeff
THIS guy.
Arthur
Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
The Romeo y Julieta cards were an absolute robbery at about $10/card. Someone made out really, really well with that lot.
Arthur
Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
Arthur
Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
And here's where they differ from the La Morenas, the back:
ETA: Obviously, the La Morenas are colorized too, but the the fronts (images, numbering) all mirror the Angola set.
Arthur
Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
Arthur
Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
Arthur
But I'd be willing to bet there's a ton of uncatalogued wrestling cards from foreign countries. I don't look for them so I doubt I'd remember if I'd seen any but there are Cuban wrestling cards as early as 1915 and I've seen a ton of wrestling cards from Spain in the 1940s-1960s era. You probably know about a lot of them but if wrestling is anything like boxing then there are probably new sets surfacing all the time. The wild west mentality of boxing cards is one of the things I'm drawn to about it.
Arthur
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What year did they require fights to include "gloves?"
I always like the poses these guys take!
I have some T9s - will some day complete the set.
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I believe you'd mentioned a Lurati Chocolates - Jack Dempsey recently. Do you happen to know the year of this release? Sorry for the horrible iphone picture - it's a lazy Sunday...
Thank you!
Jeff
That's the fourth Lurati Dempsey I've ever seen, nice pick up.
Jeff
<< <i>I don't. The set is a huge issue with actors/actresses and others from varying sports (mostly soccer). I've tried to cross reference the actors and try to pin down a release date but I doubt we'll ever be able to do it without the help of an album, if there even is one. There's also a Gene Tunney card in the set, and while it depicts a young Tunney, his inclusion likely means the set is no earlier than 1926.
That's the fourth Lurati Dempsey I've ever seen, nice pick up. >>
With regards to the Lurati cards, a couple of months ago, I spent the afternoon going through the soccer players featured on them. Using known rosters, I was able to conclude that the cards feature players on 1927-28 rosters. I wrote in my notes that I thought the set was issued in 1928. Of course, I can't find the piece of paper I used to cross-reference all the players/teams they were on in 1927-28, but I have been going on that assumption ever since. I seem to recall coming to the conclusion that they were a 1928 issue because of the fact that a bunch of guys changed teams for the 1928-29 season (and some even retired before the 28-29 season). I also came to the same conclusion based on the fact that a number of players featured on Lurati cards didn't play for the team they were assigned to prior to the 1927-28 season. So 1928 became the most logical date for me to use.
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<< <i>I don't. The set is a huge issue with actors/actresses and others from varying sports (mostly soccer). I've tried to cross reference the actors and try to pin down a release date but I doubt we'll ever be able to do it without the help of an album, if there even is one. There's also a Gene Tunney card in the set, and while it depicts a young Tunney, his inclusion likely means the set is no earlier than 1926.
That's the fourth Lurati Dempsey I've ever seen, nice pick up. >>
With regards to the Lurati cards, a couple of months ago, I spent the afternoon going through the soccer players featured on them. Using known rosters, I was able to conclude that the cards feature players on 1927-28 rosters. I wrote in my notes that I thought the set was issued in 1928. Of course, I can't find the piece of paper I used to cross-reference all the players/teams they were on in 1927-28, but I have been going on that assumption ever since. I seem to recall coming to the conclusion that they were a 1928 issue because of the fact that a bunch of guys changed teams for the 1928-29 season (and some even retired before the 28-29 season). I also came to the same conclusion based on the fact that a number of players featured on Lurati cards didn't play for the team they were assigned to prior to the 1927-28 season. So 1928 became the most logical date for me to use. >>
Great info, Alan - thank you. I had "1930s" listed, but I like 1928 a lot better. I appreciate you chiming in on that.
Jeff
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