<< <i>Geez, just got home and started reading this thread, I was signed up with Fideltrade for an alert weeks ago and never received any message from them today. I am zero for two on alerts as APMEX never sent my alert either, but I sure get a lot of spam from APMEX since I signed up for their alert. I am getting concerned that if I get a set in 2 or 3 weeks the good flip money will be gone, and the conditon will be so poor I will not want to keep them as the APs have had plenty of time to cherrypick these to death. I think I will go to the local rehabilitation clinic and sign up for the pucks anonymous 12 step program. >>
Update- I finally did get an alert notification from Fidelitrade around 1630. A lady called and explained that when they took my information 2 weeks ago, they forgot to get my email, so they called to inform me. I asked if there would be any preference for people who were on the alert list vs people who sent in the form without being on the list. She said no, it would be by order of mail received. She was not sure how many sets they were selling. I assume the USPS, UPS and FEDex deliveries all arrive at a different times. UPS is guaranteed to be there by 1030 (unless it snows).
Talked to APMEX this afternoon. I was calling to get a P.O. for some items I'm shipping to them.
The buyer said they are trying to get things organized and plan to have them on sale again soon. He also said they have averaged 7,500 calls/day with hockey puck inquiries!
<< <i>I forgot about the snow, and it says there is supposed to be snow tomorrow! I sent mine UPS, how did others send theirs? >>
FedEx Priority Overnight - delivers between 08:30 and 10:00. This is how I sent mine.
FedEx First Overnight delivers between 06:30 and 10:30 I'm told BUT if there is no one to sign they come back at 10:30 or possibly later.
USPS Express Mail generally (per our USPS counter reps) delivers before noon if sent by 14:00 or by 15:00 is sent later.
Don't know about UPS.
It seems that FedEx Priority Overnight should beat most USPS Express mail but not risk getting there before someone is present to sign for it.
Remember that all of them guarantee a delivery time. Track your letters. If they are late (even by a minute) the small consolation prize is a full refund of charges.
<< <i>I forgot about the snow, and it says there is supposed to be snow tomorrow! I sent mine UPS, how did others send theirs? >>
FedEx Priority Overnight - delivers between 08:30 and 10:00. This is how I sent mine.
FedEx First Overnight delivers between 06:30 and 10:30 I'm told BUT if there is no one to sign they come back at 10:30 or possibly later.
USPS Express Mail generally (per our USPS counter reps) delivers before noon if sent by 14:00 or by 15:00 is sent later.
Don't know about UPS.
It seems that FedEx Priority Overnight should beat most USPS Express mail but not risk getting there before someone is present to sign for it.
Remember that all of them guarantee a delivery time. Track your letters. If they are late (even by a minute) the small consolation prize is a full refund of charges. >>
UPS provided three options: 6:00-8:00 8:00-10:00 10:00-12:00
<< <i>Just curious Raufus, how many do you plan on getting? >>
Ideally two, which was my original APMEX order. One to pass (not that I'm ready to kick the bucket just yet, hopefully) to each child.
I have absoluetly NO conficence that I'll ever see anything from MTB (no email, no order number, no nothing) so I did not want to chance it (not that I'll ever see anything from Ftrade either).
Edited to add: That is two decent sets. If Ftrade comes through and they're totally beat up (which I think is likely) I'll try again if the opportunity arises.
It may be (as I said many posts ago) that APMEX is the only AP who handles them properly.
<< <i>Just curious Raufus, how many do you plan on getting? >>
Ideally two, which was my original APMEX order. One to pass (not that I'm ready to kick the bucket just yet, hopefully) to each child.
I have absoluetly NO conficence that I'll ever see anything from MTB (no email, no order number, no nothing) so I did not want to chance it (not that I'll ever see anything from Ftrade either). >>
Don't say that about Fidelitrade just yet, lets wish us all luck!
<< <i>Just curious Raufus, how many do you plan on getting? >>
Ideally two, which was my original APMEX order. One to pass (not that I'm ready to kick the bucket just yet, hopefully) to each child.
I have absoluetly NO conficence that I'll ever see anything from MTB (no email, no order number, no nothing) so I did not want to chance it (not that I'll ever see anything from Ftrade either). >>
Don't say that about Fidelitrade just yet, lets wish us all luck! >>
Amen to that!
I didn't mean that to imply that they are shady (like Prudential) only that they will likely get more than 3700 forms/checks tomorrow so it will be a lottery.
<< <i>Just curious Raufus, how many do you plan on getting? >>
Ideally two, which was my original APMEX order. One to pass (not that I'm ready to kick the bucket just yet, hopefully) to each child.
I have absoluetly NO conficence that I'll ever see anything from MTB (no email, no order number, no nothing) so I did not want to chance it (not that I'll ever see anything from Ftrade either). >>
Don't say that about Fidelitrade just yet, lets wish us all luck! >>
Amen to that!
I didn't mean that to imply that they are shady (like Prudential) only that they will likely get more than 3700 forms/checks tomorrow so it will be a lottery. >>
That is how I took it, I have been explaining to my friends all day that I am spending $37 on shipping just to enter a lottery and they all think I am crazy.
<< <i>Just curious Raufus, how many do you plan on getting? >>
Ideally two, which was my original APMEX order. One to pass (not that I'm ready to kick the bucket just yet, hopefully) to each child.
I have absoluetly NO conficence that I'll ever see anything from MTB (no email, no order number, no nothing) so I did not want to chance it (not that I'll ever see anything from Ftrade either). >>
Don't say that about Fidelitrade just yet, lets wish us all luck! >>
Amen to that!
I didn't mean that to imply that they are shady (like Prudential) only that they will likely get more than 3700 forms/checks tomorrow so it will be a lottery. >>
That is how I took it, I have been explaining to my friends all day that I am spending $37 on shipping just to enter a lottery and they all think I am crazy. >>
I understand that both NGC and our Host PCGS will be grading these walk through at the Fun Show in Tampa on Saturday...I expect these to hit the mrkt real quick
<< <i>Walkthrough would be like 100.00, or 118.00 a coin!-----------BigE >>
A guy has a bid for $3500 for a set of PCGS coins before they are even in-hand. Can you imagine what a set in-hand would go for? Probably worth the extra $100 - $150 for the set
<< <i>Just curious Raufus, how many do you plan on getting? >>
Ideally two, which was my original APMEX order. One to pass (not that I'm ready to kick the bucket just yet, hopefully) to each child.
I have absoluetly NO conficence that I'll ever see anything from MTB (no email, no order number, no nothing) so I did not want to chance it (not that I'll ever see anything from Ftrade either). >>
Don't say that about Fidelitrade just yet, lets wish us all luck! >>
Amen to that!
I didn't mean that to imply that they are shady (like Prudential) only that they will likely get more than 3700 forms/checks tomorrow so it will be a lottery. >>
How is/was Prudential shady? My buddy already got a call from them confirming his order.
<< <i>Walkthrough would be like 100.00, or 118.00 a coin!-----------BigE >>
A guy has a bid for $3500 for a set of PCGS coins before they are even in-hand. Can you imagine what a set in-hand would go for? Probably worth the extra $100 - $150 for the set >>
Show economy might be a little better, has a perfect 5 coin minimum, and would only cost 425.00 for the set--------------BigE
<< <i>Talked to APMEX this afternoon. I was calling to get a P.O. for some items I'm shipping to them.
The buyer said they are trying to get things organized and plan to have them on sale again soon. He also said they have averaged 7,500 calls/day with hockey puck inquiries! >>
Wow! If they're getting that many calls per day, their remaining stock could be all gone within an hour of them going on sale.
<< <i>He also said they have averaged 7,500 calls/day with hockey puck inquiries! >>
Avg of 7500 calls a day divided by 24 hrs = 312.5, divided by 60 minutes = 5.2 calls per minute = 60 seconds divided by 5.2 = one call per 11.52 per sec.
May be a wee bit of embellishment, but stranger things have happened.
<< <i>Talked to APMEX this afternoon. I was calling to get a P.O. for some items I'm shipping to them.
The buyer said they are trying to get things organized and plan to have them on sale again soon. He also said they have averaged 7,500 calls/day with hockey puck inquiries! >>
Wow! If they're getting that many calls per day, their remaining stock could be all gone within an hour of them going on sale. >>
Sp if they had put them on sale Monday they could have saved themselves from answering 30,000 phone calls
<< <i>He also said they have averaged 7,500 calls/day with hockey puck inquiries! >>
Avg of 7500 calls a day divided by 24 hrs = 312.5, divided by 60 minutes = 5.2 calls per minute = 60 seconds divided by 5.2 = one call per 11.52 per sec.
May be a wee bit of embellishment, but stranger things have happened.
That is what I thought .... which makes the dudes bidding over $3500 for the"any grade " PCGS FS slabs kinda dumb since anyone can get that label on any set at any time (assuming you can GET a set at all)
They could be MS 60 for all they know and I am sure only the lower grades would will be given to the "winning" bidder
"Today is the cut off day for first strike - is PCGS extending the first strike label?? Since all the bs from AP and Mint"
I wonder.... maybe this is another reason why the AP's may have drug their feet on selling to the general public. Only the privileged early owners may have been able to send in for first strike or early release labeling. By holding back selling to the general public, there will be many less with those labels on them since it is now too late. A neat way to manipulate the market so only a few have the early release, etc? More big bucks for the preferred customers?
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<< <i>How far is this from Gold Center? >>
39 miles
edited to add: data from MApQuest >>
4580 Wabash Ave, Springfield, IL
3000 West Iles Avenue, Springfield, IL
=2 miles
Keep in mind, the owner may be leasing the building; just posting what I know.
Point being someone very close to the sales center got a BUNCH of sets and is flaunting his victory on Ebay. Pretty lame....
<< <i>Geez, just got home and started reading this thread, I was signed up with Fideltrade for an alert weeks ago and never received any message from them today. I am zero for two on alerts as APMEX never sent my alert either, but I sure get a lot of spam from APMEX since I signed up for their alert. I am getting concerned that if I get a set in 2 or 3 weeks the good flip money will be gone, and the conditon will be so poor I will not want to keep them as the APs have had plenty of time to cherrypick these to death. I think I will go to the local rehabilitation clinic and sign up for the pucks anonymous 12 step program. >>
Update- I finally did get an alert notification from Fidelitrade around 1630. A lady called and explained that when they took my information 2 weeks ago, they forgot to get my email, so they called to inform me. I asked if there would be any preference for people who were on the alert list vs people who sent in the form without being on the list. She said no, it would be by order of mail received. She was not sure how many sets they were selling. I assume the USPS, UPS and FEDex deliveries all arrive at a different times. UPS is guaranteed to be there by 1030 (unless it snows).
<< <i>Mapquest should a very circular route and it did seem to go way out of the way....I will assume it is much shorter than reported by them
Point being someone very close to the sales center got a BUNCH of sets and is flaunting his victory on Ebay. Pretty lame.... >>
Hopefully many will report Gold Center. If any AP is just screaming for an audit it has to be them.
The buyer said they are trying to get things organized and plan to have them on sale again soon. He also said they have averaged 7,500 calls/day with hockey puck inquiries!
<< <i>I forgot about the snow, and it says there is supposed to be snow tomorrow! I sent mine UPS, how did others send theirs? >>
FedEx Priority Overnight - delivers between 08:30 and 10:00. This is how I sent mine.
FedEx First Overnight delivers between 06:30 and 10:30 I'm told BUT if there is no one to sign they come back at 10:30 or possibly later.
USPS Express Mail generally (per our USPS counter reps) delivers before noon if sent by 14:00 or by 15:00 is sent later.
Don't know about UPS.
It seems that FedEx Priority Overnight should beat most USPS Express mail but not risk getting there before someone is present to sign for it.
Remember that all of them guarantee a delivery time. Track your letters. If they are late (even by a minute) the small consolation prize is a full refund of charges.
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<< <i>I forgot about the snow, and it says there is supposed to be snow tomorrow! I sent mine UPS, how did others send theirs? >>
FedEx Priority Overnight - delivers between 08:30 and 10:00. This is how I sent mine.
FedEx First Overnight delivers between 06:30 and 10:30 I'm told BUT if there is no one to sign they come back at 10:30 or possibly later.
USPS Express Mail generally (per our USPS counter reps) delivers before noon if sent by 14:00 or by 15:00 is sent later.
Don't know about UPS.
It seems that FedEx Priority Overnight should beat most USPS Express mail but not risk getting there before someone is present to sign for it.
Remember that all of them guarantee a delivery time. Track your letters. If they are late (even by a minute) the small consolation prize is a full refund of charges. >>
UPS provided three options:
6:00-8:00
8:00-10:00
10:00-12:00
<< <i>Just curious Raufus, how many do you plan on getting? >>
Probably as many as he possibly can.
Get it while the gettin's good!!
<< <i>Just curious Raufus, how many do you plan on getting? >>
Ideally two, which was my original APMEX order. One to pass (not that I'm ready to kick the bucket just yet, hopefully) to each child.
I have absoluetly NO conficence that I'll ever see anything from MTB (no email, no order number, no nothing) so I did not want to chance it (not that I'll ever see anything from Ftrade either).
Edited to add: That is two decent sets. If Ftrade comes through and they're totally beat up (which I think is likely) I'll try again if the opportunity arises.
It may be (as I said many posts ago) that APMEX is the only AP who handles them properly.
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<< <i>Just curious Raufus, how many do you plan on getting? >>
Ideally two, which was my original APMEX order. One to pass (not that I'm ready to kick the bucket just yet, hopefully) to each child.
I have absoluetly NO conficence that I'll ever see anything from MTB (no email, no order number, no nothing) so I did not want to chance it (not that I'll ever see anything from Ftrade either). >>
Don't say that about Fidelitrade just yet, lets wish us all luck!
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<< <i>Just curious Raufus, how many do you plan on getting? >>
Ideally two, which was my original APMEX order. One to pass (not that I'm ready to kick the bucket just yet, hopefully) to each child.
I have absoluetly NO conficence that I'll ever see anything from MTB (no email, no order number, no nothing) so I did not want to chance it (not that I'll ever see anything from Ftrade either). >>
Don't say that about Fidelitrade just yet, lets wish us all luck! >>
Amen to that!
I didn't mean that to imply that they are shady (like Prudential) only that they will likely get more than 3700 forms/checks tomorrow so it will be a lottery.
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<< <i>Just curious Raufus, how many do you plan on getting? >>
Ideally two, which was my original APMEX order. One to pass (not that I'm ready to kick the bucket just yet, hopefully) to each child.
I have absoluetly NO conficence that I'll ever see anything from MTB (no email, no order number, no nothing) so I did not want to chance it (not that I'll ever see anything from Ftrade either). >>
Don't say that about Fidelitrade just yet, lets wish us all luck! >>
Amen to that!
I didn't mean that to imply that they are shady (like Prudential) only that they will likely get more than 3700 forms/checks tomorrow so it will be a lottery. >>
That is how I took it, I have been explaining to my friends all day that I am spending $37 on shipping just to enter a lottery and they all think I am crazy.
<< <i>UPS also told me by 1030. Hey Raufus, I may have missed the post but did you ever get yours back from PCGS? if so what did they grade? >>
No yet. Expecting it next week.
Has anyone checked he census. Has PCGS graded any yet?
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<< <i>Just curious Raufus, how many do you plan on getting? >>
Ideally two, which was my original APMEX order. One to pass (not that I'm ready to kick the bucket just yet, hopefully) to each child.
I have absoluetly NO conficence that I'll ever see anything from MTB (no email, no order number, no nothing) so I did not want to chance it (not that I'll ever see anything from Ftrade either). >>
Don't say that about Fidelitrade just yet, lets wish us all luck! >>
Amen to that!
I didn't mean that to imply that they are shady (like Prudential) only that they will likely get more than 3700 forms/checks tomorrow so it will be a lottery. >>
That is how I took it, I have been explaining to my friends all day that I am spending $37 on shipping just to enter a lottery and they all think I am crazy. >>
I think that your $37 was very well spent!!
<< <i>Who is "Ultracoin" - he/she seems to have a LOT of sets. >>
Out of Logan Utah - and there is no AP close to that town!
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<< <i>Who is "Ultracoin" - he/she seems to have a LOT of sets. >>
Out of Logan Utah - and there is no AP close to that town! >>
Is this the same one I posted earlier: Gold Coin & Diamond Exchange, Logan, UT
<< <i>Walkthrough would be like 100.00, or 118.00 a coin!-----------BigE >>
A guy has a bid for $3500 for a set of PCGS coins before they are even in-hand. Can you imagine what a set in-hand would go for? Probably worth the extra $100 - $150 for the set
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<< <i>Just curious Raufus, how many do you plan on getting? >>
Ideally two, which was my original APMEX order. One to pass (not that I'm ready to kick the bucket just yet, hopefully) to each child.
I have absoluetly NO conficence that I'll ever see anything from MTB (no email, no order number, no nothing) so I did not want to chance it (not that I'll ever see anything from Ftrade either). >>
Don't say that about Fidelitrade just yet, lets wish us all luck! >>
Amen to that!
I didn't mean that to imply that they are shady (like Prudential) only that they will likely get more than 3700 forms/checks tomorrow so it will be a lottery. >>
How is/was Prudential shady? My buddy already got a call from them confirming his order.
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<< <i>Walkthrough would be like 100.00, or 118.00 a coin!-----------BigE >>
A guy has a bid for $3500 for a set of PCGS coins before they are even in-hand. Can you imagine what a set in-hand would go for? Probably worth the extra $100 - $150 for the set >>
Show economy might be a little better, has a perfect 5 coin minimum, and would only cost 425.00 for the set
<< <i>Did anyone from FUN report whether any dealers have quantities of ATB hockey pucks for sale? >>
I saw a few sets, and Silvertowne has the tubes they came in.
<< <i>Talked to APMEX this afternoon. I was calling to get a P.O. for some items I'm shipping to them.
The buyer said they are trying to get things organized and plan to have them on sale again soon. He also said they have averaged 7,500 calls/day with hockey puck inquiries! >>
Wow! If they're getting that many calls per day, their remaining stock could be all gone within an hour of them going on sale.
<< <i>He also said they have averaged 7,500 calls/day with hockey puck inquiries! >>
Avg of 7500 calls a day divided by 24 hrs = 312.5, divided by 60 minutes = 5.2 calls per minute = 60 seconds divided by 5.2 = one call per 11.52 per sec.
May be a wee bit of embellishment, but stranger things have happened.
Caller: 'I want to buy 5 oz ATB silver set.'
Seller: 'Not for sale right now'
Click.
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<< <i>Talked to APMEX this afternoon. I was calling to get a P.O. for some items I'm shipping to them.
The buyer said they are trying to get things organized and plan to have them on sale again soon. He also said they have averaged 7,500 calls/day with hockey puck inquiries! >>
Wow! If they're getting that many calls per day, their remaining stock could be all gone within an hour of them going on sale. >>
Sp if they had put them on sale Monday they could have saved themselves from answering 30,000 phone calls
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<< <i>He also said they have averaged 7,500 calls/day with hockey puck inquiries! >>
Avg of 7500 calls a day divided by 24 hrs = 312.5, divided by 60 minutes = 5.2 calls per minute = 60 seconds divided by 5.2 = one call per 11.52 per sec.
May be a wee bit of embellishment, but stranger things have happened.
Caller: 'I want to buy 5 oz ATB silver set.'
Seller: 'Not for sale right now'
Click. >>
Assuming two things:
They only have one phone
They work 24 hours/day
<< <i>Today is the cut off day for first strike - is PCGS extending the first strike label?? Since all the bs from AP and Mint. >>
There is NO FS cutt off for PCGS.
What is NGC doing about ER?
<< <i>Just wondering does anyone who has an account at Fidelitrade try to make an order by phone. >>
The mailing said orders would only be accepted by carrier (USPS, UPS, FedEx)
<< <i> There is NO FS cutt off for PCGS. >>
That is what I thought .... which makes the dudes bidding over $3500 for the"any grade " PCGS FS slabs kinda dumb since anyone can get that label on any set at any time (assuming you can GET a set at all)
They could be MS 60 for all they know and I am sure only the lower grades would will be given to the "winning" bidder
<< <i>A guy has a bid for $3500 for a set of PCGS coins before they are even in-hand. >>
Both the bids and questions looks like the "buddy system" at work to me.
I wonder.... maybe this is another reason why the AP's may have drug their feet on selling to the general public. Only the privileged early owners may have been able to send in for first strike or early release labeling. By holding back selling to the general public, there will be many less with those labels on them since it is now too late. A neat way to manipulate the market so only a few have the early release, etc? More big bucks for the preferred customers?
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<< <i>A guy has a bid for $3500 for a set of PCGS coins before they are even in-hand. >>
Both the bids and questions looks like the "buddy system" at work to me.
That makes more sense anyway....nice if the "buddy" wins and the other dude has to fork over the Ebay fees .
and....on another note. NGC has no cut off date listed for the pucks
I do...and they won't.
So sorry.
Neither PCGS nor NGC are doing show service grading, and there will be no 70's on these.
Ike Specialist
Finest Toned Ike I've Ever Seen, been looking since 1986
Wondercoin
Edited: I just clicked on your link. IL address. A Gold Center friend?
<< <i>I believe every ATB coin is "first strike" qualified at PCGS. Wasn't this confirmed on another thread or even here?
Wondercoin >>
Confirmed here.
What about NGC? Is there an ER cut off?
I do...and they won't.
So sorry.
Ok thanks Rich I was wondering because I have an account there.