I have to agree with those who say it's not going to look good in 4 weeks.... So far just a few sets have oozed out of various channels. But it really looks like there is a good chance that FTrade and AMark will be releasing most--if not all of their stock--around the same time period. And there are lots of flippers. A few saying they're going to send theirs for grading, but LOTS of flippers.
And ebay is a dog eat dog world. I can see people continuing to flip even as prices are bottoming out in the low $1000s. And flippers don't like to sit on stuff for the long term.
It could mean getting these on the cheap without dealing with APs.
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<< <i>So what is a good presale price to list this at on ebay? $1999? >>
$2200 if from the Amark sale. >>
You should definitely charge more for AMark coins. The PCGS slabs mean that the coins were handled by professional graders at at least one stage in the process, and that they weren't handled directly by the ebay seller.
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But all these amark presales are looking at 4-6 week delivery times. If these were in-hand they would be worth more.
I don't see these falling far below 2000 at any time in the near future. Dealers will be picking them up if they do. Then, when the big supply runs out, the dealers will drive the market much higher.
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I had a friend who missed the initial offering at Amark, but registered and WAS 1 of the first 250. He got an email stating that, however, he just got an email saying that he was not of the first 250 and that he would be entered in a lottery for 50 sets. Did any who was of of the first 250 get this same message?
<< <i>So what is a good presale price to list this at on ebay? $1999? >>
sell them as singles >>
How much are PCGS BU singles going for? Wont the fees end up getting the same amount as selling a 5 coin set? >>
Look at some completed listings.....for awhile there selling individually was demanding high enough premiums to more than make up for the extra ebay fees on auctions. I don't know about BIN.
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My son was successful at buying a set from a-mark. He didn't sign up for the list. But, he also received the email that he was NOT one of the 250. Go figure.
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Geeze, away from the computer for 24 hours and the ER PLs arrive out of nowhere to (IMHO) be the clear kings, the set presales are sub-$2K and heading down, the singles are up from last Sunday, and it looks like I'd better sell the PCGS 69s while the gettin's good and hope for an ER PL set. What a roller-coaster....
<< <i>this auction is for NGC gem uncirc. just like the PCGS coins from AMARK and are over 3k... am i missing something? ebay >>
In hand are going for more than presales. The reason many people are preselling is due to fear of pricing dropping when hundreds of sets hit ebay at once.
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<< <i>Geeze, away from the computer for 24 hours and the ER PLs arrive out of nowhere to (IMHO) be the clear kings, the set presales are sub-$2K and heading down, the singles are up from last Sunday, and it looks like I'd better sell the PCGS 69s while the gettin's good and hope for an ER PL set. What a roller-coaster.... >>
Roller coaster weekend for sure, with the surfacing of the NGC 69PLs (I still think PCGS 69 will end up being the champions though) roller coaster prices, AMark updates, and that Fidelitrade update that nobody noticed until a day later...
Love em or hate em, this has been some great drama.
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<< <i>I had a friend who missed the initial offering at Amark, but registered and WAS 1 of the first 250. He got an email stating that, however, he just got an email saying that he was not of the first 250 and that he would be entered in a lottery for 50 sets. Did any who was of of the first 250 get this same message? >>
No I am still good and waiting for my email Monday with instructions. Anit over till the fat later sings.
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<< <i>In hand are going for more than presales. The reason many people are preselling is due to fear of pricing dropping when hundreds of sets hit ebay at once. >>
Yeah, thats the way I see it. The ATB raw bullion set price is going to come under alot of pressure in the coming weeks. I'm pre-selling MTB + Fidelitrade, keep the Amark and have $1000 beer money left over.
<< <i>In hand are going for more than presales. The reason many people are preselling is due to fear of pricing dropping when hundreds of sets hit ebay at once. >>
Yeah, thats the way I see it. The ATB raw bullion set price is going to come under alot of pressure in the coming weeks. I'm pre-selling MTB + Fidelitrade, keep the Amark and have $1000 beer money left over. >>
Do you actually have any sets in hand? I hope somehow it's not one per household but has anyone actually sets from more then one AP?
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<< <i>Do you actually have any sets in hand? I hope somehow it's not one per household but has anyone actually sets from more then one AP? >>
I've received one set from MTB and have confirmation that the coins from Fidelitrade will ship and my check has cleared. I sold one MTB set and had planned to keep the Fidelitrade set; however, because of discussion of potential falling prices on this forum last week I decided to presell the Fidelitrade set. A few weeks ago Coins Antiques gave us a taste of what would happen when lots of sets go on sale (prices dropped quickly).
I will also have a set from A-Mark, but I plan on keeping this set and aquiring more A-Mark sets if the price does go down on EBay once they are distributed.
Sold Out or likely Sold Out: 7. Prudential- 212-778-4654 (potential for more to be available) 8. MTB Coins - 800-535-7481 (likely sold out) 9. The Gold Center- Sold Out
Sold Out or likely Sold Out: 6. Prudential- 212-778-4654 (potential for more to be available) 7. MTB Coins - 800-535-7481 (likely sold out) 8. FideliTrade- 800-223-1080 (likely sold out) 9. The Gold Center- Sold Out >>
None of the above are currently are offering them for sale.
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After hearing nothing from Fidelitrade about my order I called them this morning. Initially the woman I spoke with couldn't find my order. She checked again using my 1st name and found my order but my last name was spelled incorrectly. She fixed it and also added my email address to the order.
When I asked if that meant I was getting an order she said yes... they had "PLENTY" of sets left. I wonder how many is Plenty?????
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I suspect that they'll close sales down later today or tomorrow for the remaining FTrade sets. I think a lot of folks missed the boat on Friday, a few got 'em out Saturday and there will be a big slug of them being mailed today.
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So here's a strange thing. My A-Mark order is completed in PayPal. The charge just showed up on my credit card for only $903.86, not the full $973.33. I didn't have any cash in my PayPal account, so I wonder whats up?
Thoughts?
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Sold Out or likely Sold Out: 6. Prudential- 212-778-4654 (potential for more to be available) 7. MTB Coins - 800-535-7481 (likely sold out) 8. FideliTrade- 800-223-1080 (likely sold out) 9. The Gold Center- Sold Out >>
None of the above are currently are offering them for sale. >>
I'd put Prudential up with APMEX. They seem to have sold about 500 sets and have yet to be heard from. So like APMEX, what are they doing with the other 3000 sets.
<< <i>So here's a strange thing. My A-Mark order is completed in PayPal. The charge just showed up on my credit card for only $903.86, not the full $973.33. I didn't have any cash in my PayPal account, so I wonder whats up?
Thoughts? >>
Does it say "pending" or "posted"?
Sometimes transactions are slightly off in the pending stage. If it goes "posted" and the charge is still wrong, there's a problem.
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NGC is charging $25 EACH for those oversize holders. Since the pucks wont fit in anything else, you have no option. So its $17 each to submit, PLUS an extra $25 each for the big holders = $210 just to get these graded before shipping charges!
PCGS is not charging anything extra for the holders. PCGS is charging $14 each for grading, and if you want "First Strike" on the slab its an additional $18 each = $160 before shipping.
But for what its worth, NGC is the only ones giving these Proof Like designation. The deadline for NGC Early Release is 2/14.
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Ankur ... I was just told by the head of PCGS Customer Service that the very cheapest method to submit these coins through the collectors' club is regular line plus $18 for FS or $48/coin ($240/set). No modern or economy submissions are permitted for these.
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NGC is charging $25 EACH for those oversize holders. Since the pucks wont fit in anything else, you have no option. So its $17 each to submit, PLUS an extra $25 each for the big holders = $210 just to get these graded before shipping charges!
PCGS is not charging anything extra for the holders. PCGS is charging $14 each for grading, and if you want "First Strike" on the slab its an additional $18 each = $160 before shipping.
But for what its worth, NGC is the only ones giving these Proof Like designation. The deadline for NGC Early Release is 2/14. >>
I thought PCGS was $30/each plus $18 for FS = $48 x 5 = $240 before shipping
NGC is charging $25 EACH for those oversize holders. Since the pucks wont fit in anything else, you have no option. So its $17 each to submit, PLUS an extra $25 each for the big holders = $210 just to get these graded before shipping charges!
PCGS is not charging anything extra for the holders. PCGS is charging $14 each for grading, and if you want "First Strike" on the slab its an additional $18 each = $160 before shipping.
But for what its worth, NGC is the only ones giving these Proof Like designation. The deadline for NGC Early Release is 2/14. >>
NGC early release is 2/14, i thought it was 1/21.
So I guess the NGC early will be better then the PCGS first strike since PCGS doesn't have a cut off date.
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Does anyone know if the Chinese are selling knockoffs of these on the streets of Los Angeles yet???
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<< <i>Geeze, away from the computer for 24 hours and the ER PLs arrive out of nowhere to (IMHO) be the clear kings, the set presales are sub-$2K and heading down, the singles are up from last Sunday, and it looks like I'd better sell the PCGS 69s while the gettin's good and hope for an ER PL set. What a roller-coaster.... >>
Roller coaster weekend for sure, with the surfacing of the NGC 69PLs (I still think PCGS 69 will end up being the champions though) roller coaster prices, AMark updates, and that Fidelitrade update that nobody noticed until a day later...
Love em or hate em, this has been some great drama. >>
PF-
I'm very interested in your comment regarding the PLs vs the PCGS 69s. My goal has been to complete a set of PCGS 69s to keep. Then the PLs came along. I was basing my contention that the PLs would be king based on the UHRs. The NGC 70PLs - not to mention the 70PL ERs - are far and away the kings, even over the PCGS FS AND in the case of the UHRs the FS window was limited. Given the UHR situation, why do you feel that the PCGS 69s will rule? Also, does anyone know what the pops are for the NGC PLs (i.e, what percentage are getting PL)?
<< <i>In hand are going for more than presales. The reason many people are preselling is due to fear of pricing dropping when hundreds of sets hit ebay at once. >>
Yeah, thats the way I see it. The ATB raw bullion set price is going to come under alot of pressure in the coming weeks. I'm pre-selling MTB + Fidelitrade, keep the Amark and have $1000 beer money left over. >>
Do you actually have any sets in hand? I hope somehow it's not one per household but has anyone actually sets from more then one AP? >>
I have APMEX and MTB in hand (actually at PCGS and NGC).
Sold Out or likely Sold Out: 7. Prudential- 212-778-4654 (potential for more to be available) 8. MTB Coins - 800-535-7481 (likely sold out) 9. The Gold Center- Sold Out >>
It would seem that Prudential sold about 10 sets to callers. Where are the rest??
<< <i>So here's a strange thing. My A-Mark order is completed in PayPal. The charge just showed up on my credit card for only $903.86, not the full $973.33. I didn't have any cash in my PayPal account, so I wonder whats up?
Thoughts? >>
Perhaps, like APMEX, they evaluated or someone complained about the S&H fees and determined that they were not in accordance w/Mint policy and are refunding the difference. I think that they are quite reasonable to cover PP and PCGS slabbing.
<< <i>Ankur ... I was just told by the head of PCGS Customer Service that the very cheapest method to submit these coins through the collectors' club is regular line plus $18 for FS or $48/coin ($240/set). No modern or economy submissions are permitted for these.
Wondercoin >>
This is correct.
NOTE that NGC pushed the deadline back to Feb. 14 for ER (so I wasted $20+ on Express mail last week :-( Given the shipping dates for A Mark and F Trade I don't think that any will make ER anyway so not sure how much of a difference this will make in the ER pops.
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And ebay is a dog eat dog world. I can see people continuing to flip even as prices are bottoming out in the low $1000s. And flippers don't like to sit on stuff for the long term.
It could mean getting these on the cheap without dealing with APs.
<< <i>So what is a good presale price to list this at on ebay? $1999? >>
$2200 if from the Amark sale.
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<< <i>So what is a good presale price to list this at on ebay? $1999? >>
$2200 if from the Amark sale. >>
You should definitely charge more for AMark coins. The PCGS slabs mean that the coins were handled by professional graders at at least one stage in the process, and that they weren't handled directly by the ebay seller.
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<< <i>A PCGS BU set sold for $2225 today.
ATB set >>
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But all these amark presales are looking at 4-6 week delivery times. If these were in-hand they would be worth more.
I don't see these falling far below 2000 at any time in the near future. Dealers will be picking them up if they do. Then, when the big supply runs out, the dealers will drive the market much higher.
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<< <i>So what is a good presale price to list this at on ebay? $1999? >>
sell them as singles >>
How much are PCGS BU singles going for? Wont the fees end up getting the same amount as selling a 5 coin set? >>
Look at some completed listings.....for awhile there selling individually was demanding high enough premiums to more than make up for the extra ebay fees on auctions. I don't know about BIN.
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<< <i>So what is a good presale price to list this at on ebay? $1999? >>
sell them as singles >>
How much are PCGS BU singles going for? Wont the fees end up getting the same amount as selling a 5 coin set? >>
Are you thinking about BIN or auction? >>
Either way.
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<< <i>this auction is for NGC gem uncirc. just like the PCGS coins from AMARK and are over 3k... am i missing something? ebay >>
In hand are going for more than presales. The reason many people are preselling is due to fear of pricing dropping when hundreds of sets hit ebay at once.
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SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
<< <i>Money for nothing and the chicks for free. >>
great song but your hatred is showing.
<< <i>Geeze, away from the computer for 24 hours and the ER PLs arrive out of nowhere to (IMHO) be the clear kings, the set presales are sub-$2K and heading down, the singles are up from last Sunday, and it looks like I'd better sell the PCGS 69s while the gettin's good and hope for an ER PL set. What a roller-coaster.... >>
Roller coaster weekend for sure, with the surfacing of the NGC 69PLs (I still think PCGS 69 will end up being the champions though) roller coaster prices, AMark updates, and that Fidelitrade update that nobody noticed until a day later...
Love em or hate em, this has been some great drama.
<< <i>I had a friend who missed the initial offering at Amark, but registered and WAS 1 of the first 250. He got an email stating that, however, he just got an email saying that he was not of the first 250 and that he would be entered in a lottery for 50 sets. Did any who was of of the first 250 get this same message? >>
No I am still good and waiting for my email Monday with instructions. Anit over till the fat later sings.
Fred, Las Vegas, NV
<< <i>In hand are going for more than presales. The reason many people are preselling is due to fear of pricing dropping when hundreds of sets hit ebay at once. >>
Yeah, thats the way I see it. The ATB raw bullion set price is going to come under alot of pressure in the coming weeks. I'm pre-selling MTB + Fidelitrade, keep the Amark and have $1000 beer money left over.
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<< <i>In hand are going for more than presales. The reason many people are preselling is due to fear of pricing dropping when hundreds of sets hit ebay at once. >>
Yeah, thats the way I see it. The ATB raw bullion set price is going to come under alot of pressure in the coming weeks. I'm pre-selling MTB + Fidelitrade, keep the Amark and have $1000 beer money left over. >>
Do you actually have any sets in hand? I hope somehow it's not one per household but has anyone actually sets from more then one AP?
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It's one set per HH per AP. There are other posters who have received a set from Ampex and MTB for example.
You can buy one set per AP. Each AP can only sell you one set.
<< <i>Do you actually have any sets in hand? I hope somehow it's not one per household but has anyone actually sets from more then one AP? >>
I've received one set from MTB and have confirmation that the coins from Fidelitrade will ship and my check has cleared. I sold one MTB set and had planned to keep the Fidelitrade set; however, because of discussion of potential falling prices on this forum last week I decided to presell the Fidelitrade set. A few weeks ago Coins Antiques gave us a taste of what would happen when lots of sets go on sale (prices dropped quickly).
I will also have a set from A-Mark, but I plan on keeping this set and aquiring more A-Mark sets if the price does go down on EBay once they are distributed.
<< <i>The A-Mark quick sell out story is on p4 of today's online CW issue. >>
Do they list total number sold?
1. Jack Hunt Coin Broker
2. Dillon Gage
3. Coins N Things
4. APMEX
5. A-Mark Precious Metals, Inc (round 1 is over, sign up for round 2)
6. FideliTrade- 800-223-1080 (Plenty Available?)
Sold Out or likely Sold Out:
7. Prudential- 212-778-4654 (potential for more to be available)
8. MTB Coins - 800-535-7481 (likely sold out)
9. The Gold Center- Sold Out
<< <i>Still Available:
1. Jack Hunt Coin Broker
2. Dillon Gage
3. Coins N Things
4. APMEX
5. A-Mark Precious Metals, Inc (round 1 is over, sign up for round 2)
Sold Out or likely Sold Out:
6. Prudential- 212-778-4654 (potential for more to be available)
7. MTB Coins - 800-535-7481 (likely sold out)
8. FideliTrade- 800-223-1080 (likely sold out)
9. The Gold Center- Sold Out >>
None of the above are currently are offering them for sale.
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When I asked if that meant I was getting an order she said yes... they had "PLENTY" of sets left. I wonder how many is Plenty?????
I hope it is enough they accept the order that I express mailed them Saturday .
Thoughts?
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<< <i>Still Available:
1. Jack Hunt Coin Broker
2. Dillon Gage
3. Coins N Things
4. APMEX
5. A-Mark Precious Metals, Inc (round 1 is over, sign up for round 2)
Sold Out or likely Sold Out:
6. Prudential- 212-778-4654 (potential for more to be available)
7. MTB Coins - 800-535-7481 (likely sold out)
8. FideliTrade- 800-223-1080 (likely sold out)
9. The Gold Center- Sold Out >>
None of the above are currently are offering them for sale. >>
I'd put Prudential up with APMEX. They seem to have sold about 500 sets and have yet to be heard from. So like APMEX, what are they doing with the other 3000 sets.
<< <i>So here's a strange thing. My A-Mark order is completed in PayPal. The charge just showed up on my credit card for only $903.86, not the full $973.33. I didn't have any cash in my PayPal account, so I wonder whats up?
Thoughts? >>
Does it say "pending" or "posted"?
Sometimes transactions are slightly off in the pending stage. If it goes "posted" and the charge is still wrong, there's a problem.
NGC is charging $25 EACH for those oversize holders. Since the pucks wont fit in anything else, you have no option. So its $17 each to submit, PLUS an extra $25 each for the big holders = $210 just to get these graded before shipping charges!
PCGS is not charging anything extra for the holders. PCGS is charging $14 each for grading, and if you want "First Strike" on the slab its an additional $18 each = $160 before shipping.
But for what its worth, NGC is the only ones giving these Proof Like designation. The deadline for NGC Early Release is 2/14.
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Box of 20
SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
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<< <i>FYI:
NGC is charging $25 EACH for those oversize holders. Since the pucks wont fit in anything else, you have no option. So its $17 each to submit, PLUS an extra $25 each for the big holders = $210 just to get these graded before shipping charges!
PCGS is not charging anything extra for the holders. PCGS is charging $14 each for grading, and if you want "First Strike" on the slab its an additional $18 each = $160 before shipping.
But for what its worth, NGC is the only ones giving these Proof Like designation. The deadline for NGC Early Release is 2/14. >>
I thought PCGS was $30/each plus $18 for FS = $48 x 5 = $240 before shipping
Has to be "regular" not "modern"
Edited to add: 1 min. late on my response I guess
<< <i>FYI:
NGC is charging $25 EACH for those oversize holders. Since the pucks wont fit in anything else, you have no option. So its $17 each to submit, PLUS an extra $25 each for the big holders = $210 just to get these graded before shipping charges!
PCGS is not charging anything extra for the holders. PCGS is charging $14 each for grading, and if you want "First Strike" on the slab its an additional $18 each = $160 before shipping.
But for what its worth, NGC is the only ones giving these Proof Like designation. The deadline for NGC Early Release is 2/14. >>
NGC early release is 2/14, i thought it was 1/21.
So I guess the NGC early will be better then the PCGS first strike since PCGS doesn't have a cut off date.
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Edit: That is good to know, now maybe have a chance if FideliTrade gets some coins out tomorrow, since they said they only ship on Tuesday.
<< <i>Does anyone know if the Chinese are selling knockoffs of these on the streets of Los Angeles yet???
I don't know, but at this point, I think I would just like to Yawn...
<< <i>Does anyone know if the Chinese are selling knockoffs of these on the streets of Los Angeles yet???
Prices for those unopened boxes from the AP's will soar !
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No brainer to go with NGC if it's the same price as PCGS. NGC has a shorter turnaround time.
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<< <i>Geeze, away from the computer for 24 hours and the ER PLs arrive out of nowhere to (IMHO) be the clear kings, the set presales are sub-$2K and heading down, the singles are up from last Sunday, and it looks like I'd better sell the PCGS 69s while the gettin's good and hope for an ER PL set. What a roller-coaster.... >>
Roller coaster weekend for sure, with the surfacing of the NGC 69PLs (I still think PCGS 69 will end up being the champions though) roller coaster prices, AMark updates, and that Fidelitrade update that nobody noticed until a day later...
Love em or hate em, this has been some great drama. >>
PF-
I'm very interested in your comment regarding the PLs vs the PCGS 69s. My goal has been to complete a set of PCGS 69s to keep.
Then the PLs came along. I was basing my contention that the PLs would be king based on the UHRs. The NGC 70PLs - not to mention the 70PL ERs - are far and away the kings, even over the PCGS FS AND in the case of the UHRs the FS window was limited.
Given the UHR situation, why do you feel that the PCGS 69s will rule?
Also, does anyone know what the pops are for the NGC PLs (i.e, what percentage are getting PL)?
Thanks, R-
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<< <i>In hand are going for more than presales. The reason many people are preselling is due to fear of pricing dropping when hundreds of sets hit ebay at once. >>
Yeah, thats the way I see it. The ATB raw bullion set price is going to come under alot of pressure in the coming weeks. I'm pre-selling MTB + Fidelitrade, keep the Amark and have $1000 beer money left over. >>
Do you actually have any sets in hand? I hope somehow it's not one per household but has anyone actually sets from more then one AP? >>
I have APMEX and MTB in hand (actually at PCGS and NGC).
<< <i>Still Available:
1. Jack Hunt Coin Broker
2. Dillon Gage
3. Coins N Things
4. APMEX
5. A-Mark Precious Metals, Inc (round 1 is over, sign up for round 2)
6. FideliTrade- 800-223-1080 (Plenty Available?)
Sold Out or likely Sold Out:
7. Prudential- 212-778-4654 (potential for more to be available)
8. MTB Coins - 800-535-7481 (likely sold out)
9. The Gold Center- Sold Out >>
It would seem that Prudential sold about 10 sets to callers. Where are the rest??
<< <i>So here's a strange thing. My A-Mark order is completed in PayPal. The charge just showed up on my credit card for only $903.86, not the full $973.33. I didn't have any cash in my PayPal account, so I wonder whats up?
Thoughts? >>
Perhaps, like APMEX, they evaluated or someone complained about the S&H fees and determined that they were not in accordance w/Mint policy and are refunding the difference. I think that they are quite reasonable to cover PP and PCGS slabbing.
<< <i>Ankur ... I was just told by the head of PCGS Customer Service that the very cheapest method to submit these coins through the collectors' club is regular line plus $18 for FS or $48/coin ($240/set). No modern or economy submissions are permitted for these.
Wondercoin >>
This is correct.
NOTE that NGC pushed the deadline back to Feb. 14 for ER (so I wasted $20+ on Express mail last week :-( Given the shipping dates for A Mark and F Trade I don't think that any will make ER anyway so not sure how much of a difference this will make in the ER pops.
<< <i>I thought NGC Early Release ended last Friday?
Edit: That is good to know, now maybe have a chance if FideliTrade gets some coins out tomorrow, since they said they only ship on Tuesday. >>
Yes, but didn't they say 4-6 weeks for shipping?
but PL NGC UHRs tend to command a premium over PCGS UHRs of the same grade.