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  • I think PCGS is going to offer a "buy one - get two free" grading submission special with free shipping, available only to forum members, for the remainder of the year as a good-will gesture to it's loyal customers. image
  • Mr. Hall ...........can you give us a hint ?
  • homerunhallhomerunhall Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭

    Doubel Eagle 5...no

    RYK...no...I don't respond to everyone

    Proofman48...no

    Stone...no

    I keigwin...me too...but the big one is way bigger than that

    Paw Paul...no


  • Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭
    They will set up a couple more PCGS offices, to keep up with demand. Turnaround will be super quick and they will allow drop-offs. If the coin is valued at over $5000 it will need to be sent to the home office, no exceptions. One will be located in NY, one in FL, one in CO and another one in WA.

    Price guides for varieties and colonials.

    Photo identification, like DGS has...these will be photographed by various dealers that are "PCGS Certified" and uploaded to the official site. No need to send all your coins to PCGS, when you can find a qualified dealer in major cities as well. This will enable PCGS to keep more accurate census records...since crackouts can be verified and deleted based on visual markers.

    This new photographing census will accompany a new holder with magnetic id strip and other anti-counterfeiting goodies.

    Merchandising!!! Have you ever wanted to have your coin put on a T-shirt, or coffee mug? Now you can! With the help of PCGS!

    Combined orders (crossovers and raw coins on the same submission.)

    And the real answer to what PCGS will be doing...Cash for Clunkers! Have a widget to get rid of? PCGS will buy your used gold and junk silver!

  • drddmdrddm Posts: 5,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mr. Hall,

    Could it be that PCGS is discussing with other TPGS to have ONE unifying grading service......which will be PCGS?

  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    I am hoping for scratch-and-sniff slabs.
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  • Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭
    Seriously though...I'm excited to see what's on the horizon. I'm sure it will be great, PCGS isn't one to take a big step lightly.
  • CoinlearnerCoinlearner Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭✭
    PCGS is already the leading,top,and most trusted grading service. If it is "not broke" don't fix it. Hope changes are not too drastic, that it would impact, the fine past track record PCGS has earned...image
  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,447 ✭✭✭✭✭
    None of the things mentioned so far would be all that "big".
    I'll tell you what would be big. The equivalent of carbon dating for coins -
    to estimate how long ago the coin was struck and/or the age of the oxidation layer.
  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How about better pricing on mint errors, or discounts on multiple mint errors. I just went to the Long Beach Show to get a mint error certified and found after all the fees it would be close to 150 bucks for a piece of plastic, come on now. I did not get the coin certified and probably will never send any coins in at those prices. All I collect is mint errors and you never have specials for those.

    Also, How about a service were one could crack out a coin ( to photography it because shooting thru plastic is no way to get a great photograph) and then be able to get it re-holdered for a very good price.

    I know this is not the big news but please give us errors guys a break on pricing.
  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    I hope you open up Collectors Corner to collectors to sell their duplicates

    and some sort of minimum standards that many dealers are not reaching now
    (pics / description)

    and small commission on sales


    oops edited to change CCE to Collectors Corner
  • PCGS will start grading PEZ dispensers !!!!

    It will be called PPGS.... ( Professional PEZ Grading Service )


    Here , let me answer for you HRH.... NO !! image

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  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845
    PCGS is going to have a T.V. show on cable ; where they will auction PCGS coins submitted by members .
  • They fliped a switch and changed the market in 1986 so what was it then? New holders? PCGS began?
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  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845
    new holders ; gold,silver,and copper inserts ,representing high end, average, and lower end of the grades.

    And - a firm, buy it now price for every coin that gets graded !
  • dogwooddogwood Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭✭
    A slab the size of a Capitol Holder for complete sets! That's Big.


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  • I can't wait!! I need to know!
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  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845
    it's got to be something that involves the millions of coins already holdered to get into new slabs .........

    it's got to be something that will revolutionize the grading industry ............

    it's got to be something so huge, so stupendous - so amazing , that were all going to be dancing in the streets when we hear the announcement !!

    it's got to be something that will cause people to submit coins by the boatload


    what in the h@ll is it ?image
  • FrankcoinsFrankcoins Posts: 4,569 ✭✭✭
    I hope the news doesn't leak out (and I don't know what it is) but I am past president of the Ft Worth Coin Club...we are the host ANA club for the ANA show and we are glad to have a big announcement like this in our city. I have been a PCGS dealer for over 15 years and never seen such an excited announcement from David Hall.
    Frank Provasek - PCGS Authorized Dealer, Life Member ANA, Member TNA. www.frankcoins.com
  • 1960NYGiants1960NYGiants Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭✭
    PCGS is going to buy ANACS + ICG and move to say ... Detroit.

    Create a marketing agreement with Walmart and introduce a new holder for all of the made in China coins.

    Merge with eBay and stop other 3rd party graders from selling there!
    Gene

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  • rld14rld14 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭
    Dave,

    I have a great idea. How about I get free beer with every submission I send in?

    Now THAT would REALLY rock! image

    Bill
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,490 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>But all the things we've done so far and all the other things we'll do this year pale in comparison to the announcement we'll be making March 26, 2010 at the Mid-Winter ANA convention. At 1:00 on March 26, 2010 in a gathering place to be determined we will unveil the "next step"...the "new way"..."the big one." If you are going to be at the ANA convention in Fort Worth, don't miss it. If you're not going to be at the ANA, check the pcgs.com home page at 2:00 CST for all the info. THE BIG ONE IS COMING!!!!!
    HRH >>



    How much is this going to cost me??
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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,824 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This time, maybe it won't take me 20 years to get behind a good idea.image

    It would thrill me to see a type of market-making mechanism that incorporates PCGS's verification capabilities, member-driven - that puts the coin collecting hobby on an even more professional footing.
    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

    I knew it would happen.
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Broadstruck...not yet >>



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  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845
    ..........the new way ........?

    the next step ??



    no grade ............just a dollar amount on the front of the slab ???????????
  • dsessomdsessom Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I will be there! image

    I will be helping Glenn Holsonbake (PonyExpress8) at his table, so I am excited to see what PCGS will be rolling out! They have definitely proven their worth in numismatics. Say what you will about our hosts, but they have definitely changed the game, and for the better. I can't wait to see what the surprise is. image
    Dwayne Sessom
  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Realone...no

    Broadstruck...not yet

    Half Strike...no

    Realone (exploding holder)...no, but great idea

    pheh...no, no, no, no

    All Coins Rule...no

    Cone 10...no, no, no, no

    500bay...no

    golfer72...no

    Perry Hall...never

    LindDad...of course not

    Killed One...good idea...no

    Stone...way bigger than that

    Buffalode...good idea, but not even close >>



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  • I'm going to guess something high-tech like microchips in slabs.
    I could be wrong though! image
    Jim
  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845
    the submitter puts the grade they want on the submission form - if PCGS agrees -the fee's are waived ?

    If the graders disagree ,the submitter forfeits the coin and serve's short prison term ..and the coins are shot out of the barrel of a battleships big gun's ?
  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,824 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ..........the new way ........?

    the next step ??


    no grade ............just a dollar amount on the front of the slab ???????????


    I've occasionally thought of that myself, PawPaul.........

    "And here is a beautiful MS-$3,550.00 with pristine surfaces....."image
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    I knew it would happen.
  • Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭
    Using the full 70 point grading scale, with pluses and minuses for the "tweeners." VG7, AU56, MS65+ etc.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am a big fan of PCGS, and, no doubt, whatever it is will make a big splash in the coin biz.

    A serious question would be whether it would be worth waiting to submit any coins until after the big announcement. I have an important coin that I wanted to move from NGC to PCGS plastic at the Baltimore show in early March, but if I am better off waiting to do so...
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,781 ✭✭✭✭
    Wow! I have to admit I'm on the edge of my seat.

    How about... Slabs that can be tracked via GPS?


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  • I think perhaps a code on the coin that when typed in to coin facts will tell you everything you could possibly know about your specific coin. All kinds of facts, Auction records, Pedigree, population, You name it. Personalized to your coin.
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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cage match with Mark Salzberg, officiated by the ACG dude? image

    (The second individual's name was intentionally not provided image )
  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think perhaps a code on the coin that when typed in to coin facts will tell you everything you could possibly know about your specific coin. All kinds of facts, Auction records, Pedigree, population, You name it. Personalized to your coin. >>


    You mean, like the cert #?

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  • lope208lope208 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭


    << <i>
    Also, How about a service were one could crack out a coin ( to photography it because shooting thru plastic is no way to get a great photograph) and then be able to get it re-holdered for a very good price.

    I know this is not the big news but please give us errors guys a break on pricing. >>



    ErrorsOnCoins- It costs $10 to get a reholder. PCGS would never let you crack out a coin yourself and then get it reholdered without paying the grading fee again. You couldn't verify it's the same coin.

    To those who are guessing RFID chips and GPS tracking...I would guess this could be considered
    revolutionary, but it's impractical in many ways. Think about it, stored deep inside a PCGS server somewhere,
    would be the location of every SDB, home safe, shoebox under the bed, etc containing PCGS coins;
    it'd be a hacker's dream heist. And as long as you cracked the coins quickly, a thief would be largely
    untraceable.

    I am still racking my brain for some "revolutionary" ideas.
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  • << <i>

    << <i>I think perhaps a code on the coin that when typed in to coin facts will tell you everything you could possibly know about your specific coin. All kinds of facts, Auction records, Pedigree, population, You name it. Personalized to your coin. >>


    You mean, like the cert #?

    image >>



    Ha, ha, I knew i was getting nailed for that one.
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  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 12,987 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Wow! I have to admit I'm on the edge of my seat.

    How about... Slabs that can be tracked via GPS? >>




    You're getting warmer.

    Think rfid.


    Which BTW, I think would work great with office files as well as slabs.
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    Right here Mr H.!

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,112 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For a small $10 fee, PCGS will sticker NGC coins that meet the strict PCGS grading standards thus making them eligible for the PCGS registry. Hey, I'm running out of good ideas.image

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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,490 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>THIS IS THE BIG ONE COMING EDITH

    image >>



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    The name is LEE!
  • HalfStrikeHalfStrike Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭
    If it is the Big One then maybe it has to do with grading itself. Maybe decimal grades for MS60 and higher coins or an indication of appearance.
  • Perhaps they are buying out ANACS or NGC.
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  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭
    Yawn, I can wait.
    "It's far easier to fight for principles, than to live up to them." Adlai Stevenson
  • Per the history that I am aware of, David Hall & others introduced grading and slabbing as it is basically known today in 1986. Per his post "we flicked a switch and changed the market" and "we're going to flick another switch..." What is PCGS's primary going concern? Grading and encapsulation. I know that many have posted ideas around that, but it would seem the most logical. As far as guessing if and what that significant change might be, it most be something that even the most astute collectors here possibly have not envisioned. Since he has denied many of those ideas, it is tough to speculate.

    I am not one to to go to coin shows, but KC to Dallas via Southwest is failry cheap to book right now...might be worth the trip.
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  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,104 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My guess is that PCGS will announce that it has successfully accomplished what heretofore has been impossible. Specifically PCGS will have come up with a solution (acceptable to the parties to the Langbord lawsuit, plus all collectors, investors and dealers) that settles the Langbord case and that resolves every other past, current and future legal dispute regarding the legality of and the public v. private ownership of all US coins, patterns, trial strikes, specimens, errors, varieties, fantasy pieces, currency, tokens, etc.

    Thus all 1933 Saints, all 1964D Peace Dollars, the 1913 Liberty Nickels, etc. will be made legal to own, allowing all suspect pieces to surface and enter the market place.

    After taking care of US Coinage, PCGS will turn its skills, talents and boundless energy to pre US coinage and all World Coinage and accomplish the same thing.

    This may not be what is announced on 3-26-2010, but if it is, such an announcement would be pretty darn big.

    Then as an encore PCGS can next tackle the thorny issue of world peaceimage


  • << <i>My guess is that PCGS will announce that it has successfully accomplished what heretofore has been impossible. Specifically PCGS will have come up with a solution (acceptable to the parties to the Langbord lawsuit, plus all collectors, investors and dealers) that settles the Langbord case and that resolves every other past, current and future legal dispute regarding the legality of and the public v. private ownership of all US coins, patterns, trial strikes, specimens, errors, varieties, fantasy pieces, currency, tokens, etc.

    Thus all 1933 Saints, all 1964D Peace Dollars, the 1913 Liberty Nickels, etc. will be made legal to own, allowing all suspect pieces to surface and enter the market place.

    After taking care of US Coinage, PCGS will turn its skills, talents and boundless energy to pre US coinage and all World Coinage and accomplish the same thing.

    This may not be what is announced on 3-26-2010, but if it is, such an announcement would be pretty darn big.

    Then as an encore PCGS can next tackle the thorny issue of world peaceimage >>



    Don't hold your breath!!image
  • PawPaulPawPaul Posts: 5,845
    They figured out how to grade them, then preserved the grade in the slabs -

    next step I can see is making a cash offer to buy them
  • keojkeoj Posts: 980 ✭✭✭
    I love RFID's (seriously, the technology is cool).

    RFID on coins, not so good......99.99% of the time, while they are in my safety deposit box, completely unuseful.

    The other .o1% of the time, having an RFID reader, I'd be able to locate anyone carrying and what they're carrying and where it's sitting and........ Nope, I don't need an RFID as a beacon on an portable asset.

    keoj
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 23,965 ✭✭✭✭✭
    100!!

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