perhaps every coin valued at 1,000 dollars or more could be graded for free by PCGS? this would mean many more coins would be submitted and therefore nearly all of the valuable ones would end up in PCGS holders over time.
or maybe there will be a huge influx of young people and women into the hobby!
realistically though i'm sure it has something to do with photography and/or the internet as these tools are now essential to this great hobby.
For those that don't know, I am starting pharmacy school in the fall.
PCGS developed its own alternative to Acetone for dipping. Not only is it safe to use in an enclosed environment, you can also drink it when your done - implementing the idea of drinking the "kool-aid".
<< <i>PCGS developed its own alternative to Acetone for dipping. Not only is it safe to use in an enclosed environment, you can also drink it when your done - implementing the idea of drinking the "kool-aid". >>
<< <i>PS...Guess all you like...you won't get it because a major part of what we'll be doing comes from way out in left field. But I promise you you'll love it! In February, 1986, we flicked a switch and changed the market...we're going to flick another switch on March 25...
HRH >>
Well, since DLRC has it's own TPG with DGS wouldn't it be cool if PCGS set up their own auction house to compete with Ebay, DLRC and HA? DLRC is okay, but I think at this point in time, it's safe to say that everyone loathes Ebay. So I hope that's what the big one is!
"you won't get it because a major part of what we'll be doing comes from way out in left field", this opening statement and your pcgs handle "homerunhall" leads me to think that pcgs will be grading sports memorabilia or forming a baseball team----------BigE
PCGS perfects computerized grading which has multi-purpose use as follows.
Coin is pre-graded by computer before the three coin-in-hand experts take their own shots, thus providing more uniformly consistent grading.
The same technology measures depth of residual luster and detects coin doctoring through previously unknown diagnostic characteristics.
High quality images of obverse and reverse are a by-product of the technology by default and the images are automatically uploaded to PCGS web site where potential bidders/buyers can pre-verify a PCGS slabbed coin is authentic for a nominal $1 fee.
Coins returned in genuine slabs benefit via technology providing all problems detected that warranted no grade, thereby reducing submitter frustration like "What the...??? Exactly what the %#@& was wrong with this coin?"
<< <i>"you won't get it because a major part of what we'll be doing comes from way out in left field", this opening statement and your pcgs handle "homerunhall" leads me to think that pcgs will be grading sports memorabilia or forming a baseball team----------BigE >>
look in the upper right hand part of the page. PSA/DNA
First thing came to my mind was Pcgs finally manage to computerized grading, but I wouldn’t bet on it.
So what about: Creating a vacuum in the holder, so it will protect the coin a bit better? And I truly don’t understand how come they didn’t do it before… Think of the potential income of reslabing all of them coins again
Any tampering with the slab causes a noticeable phyical change.
BB will almost cease as all coins will be slabbed with appropriate details/information
Coins that will not cross will not be broken out of the original slab.
PCGS will devote time/energy/money to World Coins and develop a knowledge base in partnership with Krause and other experts to allow PCGS to be a major force in world coin slabbing. They will also have a newspaper/newsletter/publication/website on world coin news.
One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by inferiors. – Plato
<< <i>"you won't get it because a major part of what we'll be doing comes from way out in left field", this opening statement and your pcgs handle "homerunhall" leads me to think that pcgs will be grading sports memorabilia or forming a baseball team----------BigE >>
look in the upper right hand part of the page. PSA/DNA >>
It can't be this. It has to be something that doesn't involve a second party otherwise it couldn't be kept under wraps like it has been. Just my guess.
"Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso
PCGS enters its own brand of conflict of interest when it contracts for coin trading cards and trading games. Rarity will be based upon actual coin production, survival and grading figures.
PCGS will have product placements with the Mario Bros. and Pokemon franchises. Trading cards will be authenticated and graded.
Additionally, to suck... lure... educationally enhance YNs interest about PCGS' money machine... brand... exciting history... colored foil wrapped chocolate coins whill be placed inside almost authentic slabs ready to be cracked. (no resubmissions please. we guarantee they won't grade higher)
and all grading will be outsourced to china....
The Big One is Coming.... code for "We're going to be a major US Mint bullion distributor and the National Pucks will be available through us (among other bullion). We'll be wildly competitive since you can buy graded ones and save on those pesky shipping charges."
PCGS creates a Social Networking site called Coin Album much like Face Book. Users will be required to provide personal or business info to register and can thus be banned from the site. Dealers can register separately as businesses and personally. Virtual Store Fronts can be set up by individuals. Direct communication between users will be possible through the site. The forums will move under this site. Guess the Grade, Guess the Coin, Coin Uno, 6 Degrees of Longacre and other games created by whoever can be created and played on the site. and so forth and so on. All users must be round.
My guess is that it's going to be an entirely new holder. Since the serial # will increase to 22 digits from 16, the holder will be larger. They will also contain some kind of anti-counterfeiting measure ,perhaps a photo of the coin, and possibly a mini-history of the coin. Thus the "BIG ONE" is going to be a new larger slab.
a comparison was made to when slabbing was introduced...
and this one is coming from left field...
Instead of paying for simple grading notes.... grader's video notes will be available. The graders can be seen laughing at the submissions as they hack them point by point. The upside for the customers will be knowing their coins didn't discolor in the holder due to some "comic mishandling."
Users will have the option to display the pop report and price guide search results on a single page for quick reference.
Claim Certificates for certified Sac. dollars with a shiny new 2010 Shield Cent will be sold inside cereal boxes!
Coin Doctors will be required to have degrees, residency, licenses and malpractice insurance.
The "buzz" is about computer grading, but nobody has offered an explaination of how it will work. Here goes:
PCGS has purchased LIDAR (LIght Detection And Ranging) technology to scan every coin submitted to create a digital terrain model (DTM) of the coin. These 3D models will then be compared to the models of "standard coins" already scanned to determine the grade of the coin. This technology will allow the graders to measure every aspect of the coins surface; it will be like taking a million micrometer measurements of the coin surface. This will eliminate the "human subjectiveness" from the grading equation.
This will also stop the crack out game because the scans will not change unless the coin surface changes which will cause a downgrade to occur.
Coupled with a new holder of any kind to create new population reports.
Every coin previously slabbed will need to be resubmitted to get this designation which will increase revenues to PCGS which is good for shareholders.
I am glad I am a land surveyor because I understand this technology; we have been using it for years.
Will grade anything…Tokens, medals, which directly impacts ANACS (This makes them money) Will offer a discount to slab NGC coins (This makes them money) Allows for us to pedigree our names on the holder (this makes them money more than once because after you buy someone else’s slab, for a fee, you can get your name on it.) A system to determine coin resubmissions will be put into place to make the pop report more accurate thus assuring rarity, etc and raising values (makes them money, cost us more money)
WS
Proud recipient of the coveted PCGS Forum "You Suck" Award Thursday July 19, 2007 11:33 PM and December 30th, 2011 at 8:50 PM.
To combat counterfeits, the reverse sides of labels will bear the grader's signature in invisible DNA-laced ink -- naked to the eye but verifiable through a specially calibrated infrared laser. Naturally, certain grader's signature's will carry a premium and start an all new "buy the coin not the holder" war. Unfortunately, PSA/DNA will charge for signature verification.
PCGS will become the official grading service of the tooth fairy. Children will no longer ask "how much," but "what grade" instead. Customer servce will be overwheled by helicopter parents demanding to know "why this isn't a 70."
<< <i>What ever PCGS does.It will be cost efficient ,and be profitable. >>
Yup. You can be $ure that it'll help the bottom line.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
pcgs will introduce the 2 by 2 slab for coins smaller than a half dollar. also a vucuum formed album to hold these coins and a new superslab to go around any coin that has been "cac-ied" this is to veryify that caci did a good job. good grief what else is left havent we been milked enough?
Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
PCGS will offer free coin grading as long on you sell the coin on their collector website. Once the coin sells you pay grading and sales fees and PCGS issues the balance back to you.
PCGS will be opening shop. They will be running several B&M shops across America, offering on site grading and slabbing, as well as dealing in strictly PCGS slabbed coins. They will accept coins graded by others, or raw, but they will be reslabbed by PCGS. There will be chips built in for authentication, and they will start using the FULL 70 point grading system.
If I actually had to guess, I would think that PCGS is going to completely overhaul how they slab the coins, expect to see a completely new, much more secure slab, perhaps even with an RFID chip in it. If I had to think of one thing that could affect the market acceptability of PCGS slabs it's counterfeiting and/or people messing with coins that are already in slabs.
So that's my thoughts...
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PCGS will sell franchise licenses so people can open store fronts that do all of the services there. There will be hundered or thousands of PCGS shops in strip malls like HR BLOCK and super cuts?
All US mint and proof sets will be sold in PCGS multi coin holders. So order a proof set from the mint and it will come in PCGS multi-coin holders. Then the mint can have 3 options 1) PR-68 2010 proof set $69 2) PR-69 2010 proof set $99 3) PR-70 2010 proof set $199
How about something like a coin collectors stock exchange, where you could have long and short positions of the entire coin market or of a certain series of coins without having physical posession. For instance you could invest in whether the CU 3000 goes up, or down, just like the commodity markets------------BigE
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or maybe there will be a huge influx of young people and women into the hobby!
realistically though i'm sure it has something to do with photography and/or the internet as these tools are now essential to this great hobby.
<< <i>PCGS developed its own alternative to Acetone for dipping. Not only is it safe to use in an enclosed environment, you can also drink it when your done - implementing the idea of drinking the "kool-aid". >>
and you can dip the entire slab!!
<< <i>PS...Guess all you like...you won't get it because a major part of what we'll be doing comes from way out in left field. But I promise you you'll love it! In February, 1986, we flicked a switch and changed the market...we're going to flick another switch on March 25...
HRH >>
Well, since DLRC has it's own TPG with DGS wouldn't it be cool if PCGS set up their own auction house to compete with Ebay, DLRC and HA?
DLRC is okay, but I think at this point in time, it's safe to say that everyone loathes Ebay. So I hope that's what the big one is!
Coin is pre-graded by computer before the three coin-in-hand experts take their own shots, thus providing more uniformly consistent grading.
The same technology measures depth of residual luster and detects coin doctoring through previously unknown diagnostic characteristics.
High quality images of obverse and reverse are a by-product of the technology by default and the images are automatically uploaded to PCGS web site where potential bidders/buyers can pre-verify a PCGS slabbed coin is authentic for a nominal $1 fee.
Coins returned in genuine slabs benefit via technology providing all problems detected that warranted no grade, thereby reducing submitter frustration like "What the...??? Exactly what the %#@& was wrong with this coin?"
<< <i>"you won't get it because a major part of what we'll be doing comes from way out in left field", this opening statement and your pcgs handle "homerunhall" leads me to think that pcgs will be grading sports memorabilia or forming a baseball team----------BigE >>
look in the upper right hand part of the page. PSA/DNA
So what about:
Creating a vacuum in the holder, so it will protect the coin a bit better?
And I truly don’t understand how come they didn’t do it before…
Think of the potential income of reslabing all of them coins again
Palestine mandate coins
Any tampering with the slab causes a noticeable phyical change.
BB will almost cease as all coins will be slabbed with appropriate details/information
Coins that will not cross will not be broken out of the original slab.
PCGS will devote time/energy/money to World Coins and develop a knowledge
base in partnership with Krause and other experts to allow PCGS to be a major
force in world coin slabbing. They will also have a newspaper/newsletter/publication/website
on world coin news.
is that you end up being governed by inferiors. – Plato
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<< <i>"you won't get it because a major part of what we'll be doing comes from way out in left field", this opening statement and your pcgs handle "homerunhall" leads me to think that pcgs will be grading sports memorabilia or forming a baseball team----------BigE >>
look in the upper right hand part of the page. PSA/DNA >>
See, I told ya!!-------------BigE
<< <i>PCGS will handle the ANA shows >>
It can't be this.
It has to be something that doesn't involve a second party otherwise it couldn't be kept under wraps like it has been.
Just my guess.
"Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso
I'm running low on ideas....
PCGS enters its own brand of conflict of interest when it contracts for coin trading cards and trading games. Rarity will be based upon actual coin production, survival and grading figures.
PCGS will have product placements with the Mario Bros. and Pokemon franchises. Trading cards will be authenticated and graded.
Additionally, to suck... lure... educationally enhance YNs interest about PCGS' money machine... brand... exciting history... colored foil wrapped chocolate coins whill be placed inside almost authentic slabs ready to be cracked. (no resubmissions please. we guarantee they won't grade higher)
and all grading will be outsourced to china....
The Big One is Coming.... code for "We're going to be a major US Mint bullion distributor and the National Pucks will be available through us (among other bullion). We'll be wildly competitive since you can buy graded ones and save on those pesky shipping charges."
Users will be required to provide personal or business info to register and can thus be banned from the site.
Dealers can register separately as businesses and personally.
Virtual Store Fronts can be set up by individuals.
Direct communication between users will be possible through the site.
The forums will move under this site.
Guess the Grade, Guess the Coin, Coin Uno, 6 Degrees of Longacre and other games created by whoever can be created and played on the site.
and so forth and so on.
All users must be round.
Since the serial # will increase to 22 digits from 16, the holder will be larger.
They will also contain some kind of anti-counterfeiting measure ,perhaps a photo of the coin, and possibly a mini-history of the coin.
Thus the "BIG ONE" is going to be a new larger slab.
James Collier
PCGS Dealer #471
http://www.NobleHouseLoveland.com
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a comparison was made to when slabbing was introduced...
and this one is coming from left field...
Instead of paying for simple grading notes.... grader's video notes will be available. The graders can be seen laughing at the submissions as they hack them point by point. The upside for the customers will be knowing their coins didn't discolor in the holder due to some "comic mishandling."
Users will have the option to display the pop report and price guide search results on a single page for quick reference.
Claim Certificates for certified Sac. dollars with a shiny new 2010 Shield Cent will be sold inside cereal boxes!
Coin Doctors will be required to have degrees, residency, licenses and malpractice insurance.
Graders' kids will be allowed to certify coins!
of all time! Render to Caesar's what is
Caesars and give to God what is God's.
of all time! Render to Caesar's what is
Caesars and give to God what is God's.
of all time! Render to Caesar's what is
Caesars and give to God what is God's.
Mr. Hall will be inducted into the Numismatic Hall of Fame!
Then later join forces with Microsoft and begin lazer engraving technologies on the new holders for tracking, authenticity & pricing.
of all time! Render to Caesar's what is
Caesars and give to God what is God's.
David Hall will be appointed the next US Mint Director ... taking over after Ed Moy steps down!
Please more errors .. gold and silver fractionals too!
of all time! Render to Caesar's what is
Caesars and give to God what is God's.
PCGS has purchased LIDAR (LIght Detection And Ranging) technology to scan every coin submitted to create a digital terrain model (DTM) of the coin. These 3D models will then be compared to the models of "standard coins" already scanned to determine the grade of the coin. This technology will allow the graders to measure every aspect of the coins surface; it will be like taking a million micrometer measurements of the coin surface. This will eliminate the "human subjectiveness" from the grading equation.
This will also stop the crack out game because the scans will not change unless the coin surface changes which will cause a downgrade to occur.
Coupled with a new holder of any kind to create new population reports.
Every coin previously slabbed will need to be resubmitted to get this designation which will increase revenues to PCGS which is good for shareholders.
I am glad I am a land surveyor because I understand this technology; we have been using it for years.
Will grade anything…Tokens, medals, which directly impacts ANACS (This makes them money)
Will offer a discount to slab NGC coins (This makes them money)
Allows for us to pedigree our names on the holder (this makes them money more than once because after you buy someone else’s slab, for a fee, you can get your name on it.)
A system to determine coin resubmissions will be put into place to make the pop report more accurate thus assuring rarity, etc and raising values (makes them money, cost us more money)
WS
To combat counterfeits, the reverse sides of labels will bear the grader's signature in invisible DNA-laced ink -- naked to the eye but verifiable through a specially calibrated infrared laser. Naturally, certain grader's signature's will carry a premium and start an all new "buy the coin not the holder" war. Unfortunately, PSA/DNA will charge for signature verification.
PCGS will become the official grading service of the tooth fairy. Children will no longer ask "how much," but "what grade" instead. Customer servce will be overwheled by helicopter parents demanding to know "why this isn't a 70."
I just renewed for another year.
Now to find some coins.
Joe
<< <i>What ever PCGS does.It will be cost efficient ,and be profitable. >>
Yup. You can be $ure that it'll help the bottom line.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
also a vucuum formed album to hold these coins
and a new superslab to go around any coin that has been "cac-ied"
this is to veryify that caci did a good job.
good grief
what else is left
havent we been milked enough?
a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
There will be chips built in for authentication, and they will start using the FULL 70 point grading system.
@Largecents on twitter
So that's my thoughts...
<< <i>In an effort to hold down costs, PCGS will be outsourcing grading services to India. >>
via phone??