If you like anyone else please ask - most of the key rookies and stars in PSA 9 go fro around $40-75 with 8's coming in much less. Also if you hit a lower pop PSA 10 you also make very good money (see the Johnny Moor price at the bottom!!!)
<< <i>My I Thomas 9 just went for 89 (asking price) a few days ago: link >>
The set does very well but sometimes auctions get missed and people get deals... I really think most cards will sell for high VCP price if the cards fixed price auctions... if someone needs the card to finish or start a set they will pay if your card is the only game in town.
If you look at the data on sales the cards go up and down sale by sale.
I have a question- If I do go ahead and get a pack to try and finish the last nine slots is it ok if I do not open my pack??
I have pulled two MJ rookies in my life this decade(both from BBCK at the Sun times/National). Once at the Sun Times four of us played pack wars and sure enough myself and another man pulled a MJ. He pulled his first and it was centered pretty well but I knew it was not a ten at first glance He was excited then I opened my pack and realized pretty quick my pack was similiar to his pack and that MJ was just a few cards away and mine was pretty clean as well but more OC. We agreed to let the true winner get all the cards minus the MJ. We just didnt want to take each others MJ due to the second highest value card. Well his got a BGS 9 and mine got a BGS 8.5. I would have won with an Akeem Olajuwon Sticker. I often wish I would have thought to say the winner gets his choice of the jordans but I did get four clean packs of cards + one MJ 8.5 for the price of 250.00 so it was a great day.
In that SAME box a BGS GEM MINT got pulled the following day and sold for 17K at that very show. I always think I had a one in three chance of pulling the holy grail in GEM MINT condition. I saw the card after BGS graded it and it looked flawless to me.
There will be three or four people that leave this break with a memory that can not be erased. It is a feelign like no other to see that card staring back at you.
I have busted about ten packs in my life(all from the nationals or chicago based shows) and pulled two MJ rookies in my life so I would like to own another pack that I can guarantee is unsearched(BBCE) but not sure I want to bust it.
I want to also say back then it was not that difficult to get your money back from a pack because PSA 9s sold for 30.00
I had one pack that yeilded a Karl Malone and Jabbar PSA 9(250.00 + 170.00 and six PSA 9 commons). However, the prices have changed since then and dont follow them at all actually.
Is the Jeff Malone card still a tough card to get in high grade?? Checklist??
sorry so long just let me know if that will be ok and I am in because I won some dough playing texas hold em and want this group rip to happen. I think it will be an amazing thing to see unfold.
** Working on the following sets-2013 Spectra Football Hall of Fame 50th Anniversary Autograph set, 2015 Spectra Football Illustrious Legends Autograph set, 2014-15 Hall of Fame Heroes autograph set. **
<< <i>I have a question- If I do go ahead and get a pack to try and finish the last nine slots is it ok if I do not open my pack??
I have pulled two MJ rookies in my life this decade(both from BBCK at the Sun times/National). Once at the Sun Times four of us played pack wars and sure enough myself and another man pulled a MJ. He pulled his first and it was centered pretty well but I knew it was not a ten at first glance He was excited then I opened my pack and realized pretty quick my pack was similiar to his pack and that MJ was just a few cards away and mine was pretty clean as well but more OC. We agreed to let the true winner get all the cards minus the MJ. We just didnt want to take each others MJ due to the second highest value card. Well his got a BGS 9 and mine got a BGS 8.5. I would have won with an Akeem Olajuwon Sticker. I often wish I would have thought to say the winner gets his choice of the jordans but I did get four clean packs of cards + one MJ 8.5 for the price of 250.00 so it was a great day.
In that SAME box a BGS GEM MINT got pulled the following day and sold for 17K at that very show. I always think I had a one in three chance of pulling the holy grail in GEM MINT condition. I saw the card after BGS graded it and it looked flawless to me.
There will be three or four people that leave this break with a memory that can not be erased. It is a feelign like no other to see that card staring back at you.
I have busted about ten packs in my life(all from the nationals or chicago based shows) and pulled two MJ rookies in my life so I would like to own another pack that I can guarantee is unsearched(BBCE) but not sure I want to bust it.
I want to also say back then it was not that difficult to get your money back from a pack because PSA 9s sold for 30.00
I had one pack that yeilded a Karl Malone and Jabbar PSA 9(250.00 + 170.00 and six PSA 9 commons). However, the prices have changed since then and dont follow them at all actually.
Is the Jeff Malone card still a tough card to get in high grade?? Checklist??
sorry so long just let me know if that will be ok and I am in because I won some dough playing texas hold em and want this group rip to happen. I think it will be an amazing thing to see unfold. >>
<< <i>no one said you have to open it.. you spend the money.. you own the damn thing.. gitty up brotha >>
I just thought it was a group break and wanted to be up front that I prolly would not open it. I just didnt want people to wonder where the 36th pack was that didnt get scanned/opened.
Alright if that is the case I am in guys.
** Working on the following sets-2013 Spectra Football Hall of Fame 50th Anniversary Autograph set, 2015 Spectra Football Illustrious Legends Autograph set, 2014-15 Hall of Fame Heroes autograph set. **
<< <i>no one said you have to open it.. you spend the money.. you own the damn thing.. gitty up brotha >>
I just thought it was a group break and wanted to be up front that I prolly would not open it. I just didnt want people to wonder where the 36th pack was that didnt get scanned/opened.
yes, I want one and I plan on getting my slabbed by PSA ASAP.
will PSA designate from a full box???
** Working on the following sets-2013 Spectra Football Hall of Fame 50th Anniversary Autograph set, 2015 Spectra Football Illustrious Legends Autograph set, 2014-15 Hall of Fame Heroes autograph set. **
how do we decide who gets the actual empty box?? We should get the box as well if we are paying 10K for the entire box??
** Working on the following sets-2013 Spectra Football Hall of Fame 50th Anniversary Autograph set, 2015 Spectra Football Illustrious Legends Autograph set, 2014-15 Hall of Fame Heroes autograph set. **
anyone have any luck every getting a 10? i had 3 (magic, wilkens, dr j) about a year ago come back 8.5 and 8, 8. i thought they looked freakin perfect. clearly not. i'd love to see what a 10 looks like up close so i have an idea about what to and what not to grade.
<< <i>anyone have any luck every getting a 10? i had 3 (magic, wilkens, dr j) about a year ago come back 8.5 and 8, 8. i thought they looked freakin perfect. clearly not. i'd love to see what a 10 looks like up close so i have an idea about what to and what not to grade. >>
Wow! I'm very impressed that you guys sold this out!
I've been subbing 86 Fleers on and off since 1999...and sometimes I do think that 10s were given out alot more frequently back then.
<< <i>anyone have any luck every getting a 10? i had 3 (magic, wilkens, dr j) about a year ago come back 8.5 and 8, 8. i thought they looked freakin perfect. clearly not. i'd love to see what a 10 looks like up close so i have an idea about what to and what not to grade. >>
I got a few PSA 10 commons in the past(World B Free is one I got and I believe two other not so rare PSA 10s at the time). I prolly submitted a total of about 50 cards from packs I opened myself and got all the 10s from unopened wax. I had a lot of 100 cards or so submitted back in 2003 or 2004 that got about 80% 9s but no 10s the lot. They were clean but had been opened almost two decades earlier and must have had slight touches under a loupe. I do not use a loupe and prolly should learn but again at the time the PSA 9s were about 30.00 per card so I made a good profit on the submission.
The PSA 10s at the time sold for about 175.00 per card and not much difference between a PSA 9 or PSA 10 IMHO. I had 9s that looked better than the World B Free IMHO.
** Working on the following sets-2013 Spectra Football Hall of Fame 50th Anniversary Autograph set, 2015 Spectra Football Illustrious Legends Autograph set, 2014-15 Hall of Fame Heroes autograph set. **
Here is the shipping information... Please be sure to tell the BBCE your board name so you can be checked off the list by them. Also please post when you've paid.
$7.00 for 1 pack $9.00 for 2 packs $11.00 for 3 packs $13.00 for 4 packs
Will go UPS and the prices are not due to weight, but insurance.
dude is real awesome is not even charging me to ship cause I had an order going out today and is including it in that. The rest of my order
2-84 topps football wax packs 2 86 topps football rack packs 3-84 topps baseball wax packs 18-84 donruss wax packs 6-89 score football packs 1-92 donruss series one box(Elite chasing only)
I hope PSA will designate FROM A FULL BOX when I submit it.
Mine is paid for
** Working on the following sets-2013 Spectra Football Hall of Fame 50th Anniversary Autograph set, 2015 Spectra Football Illustrious Legends Autograph set, 2014-15 Hall of Fame Heroes autograph set. **
before i forget I do like the idea of the person who put it together to get the empty box-
I cannot believe the whole box sold out.
That is impressive IMHO.
** Working on the following sets-2013 Spectra Football Hall of Fame 50th Anniversary Autograph set, 2015 Spectra Football Illustrious Legends Autograph set, 2014-15 Hall of Fame Heroes autograph set. **
I may have missed this somewhere, so apologies in advance if I did.
What is Steve's paypal address or would he rather I call up and give him a credit card #? Probably should call him as I may also be paying him for a 77 Topps FB vending box and would like to combine shipping.
GOOD LUCK GUYS. WAY TO STICK WITH IT LEATHTECH! FOR YOU GUYS THAT ARE RIPPING THEM, CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE RESULTS.
STAY HEALTHY!
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
<< <i>I may have missed this somewhere, so apologies in advance if I did.
What is Steve's paypal address or would he rather I call up and give him a credit card #? Probably should call him as I may also be paying him for a 77 Topps FB vending box and would like to combine shipping. >>
paypal address which is BBCExchange@sprintmail.com, or you can use a credit card, directly without using Paypal by calling BBCE at 800-598-8656 and ask for Rick. Make sure to include "1986 Fleer basketball rip" and your CU user name in your payment/message.
We are not going to ship any packs out today. I will bring my video camera in tomorrow morning and film the packs being packaged up and shipped. They will go out UPS tomorrow (of course, the ones that have been paid for)!
Agree, thanks Jasen for your efforts. I don't expect to pull a Jordan buying only one pack, but I've always wanted to rip one of these packs. Never had confidence that I was getting a real pack with a legitimate shot at a Jordan. At least I know these are the real deal. It will be a blast to see a few fortunate people pull a Jordan. Just a blast!
Comments
<< <i>I'm thinking about 2 or 3, but I'd like to know what the other big cards sell for in 8 and 9. >>
ebay search
They seem to start at around $10 for 9s, but range from $10-ish to $60-ish.
Barkley
Latest Auction Prices for: PSA 9 - Average Price: $76.88
Date Auction Link Price Extra
3/1/09 eBay Auction $64.99
2/22/09 eBay Auction $88.01
2/15/09 eBay Auction $76.00
2/15/09 eBay Auction $101.99
2/14/09 eBay Listing $85.00
1/29/09 eBay Listing $86.00
1/3/09 eBay Auction $65.00
Latest Auction Prices for: PSA 8 - Average Price: $30.88
Date Auction Link Price Extra
2/19/09 eBay Auction $37.00
2/16/09 eBay Auction $30.00
2/13/09 eBay Listing $44.00
2/8/09 eBay Auction $50.00
2/8/09 eBay Auction $40.00
Ewing
Latest Auction Prices for: PSA 9 - Average Price: $46.72
2/15/09 eBay Auction $63.01
2/8/09 eBay Auction $47.02
1/29/09 eBay Listing $60.00
1/6/09 eBay Auction $46.06
12/28/08 eBay Auction $41.01
Latest Auction Prices for: PSA 8 - Average Price: $23.82
2/24/09 eBay Auction $24.50
2/8/09 eBay Auction $27.56
2/8/09 eBay Auction $40.00
2/1/09 eBay Listing $35.99
Drexler
Latest Auction Prices for: PSA 9 - Average Price: $40.10
Date Auction Link Price Extra
3/1/09 eBay Auction $52.00
2/12/09 eBay Auction $44.25
2/1/09 eBay Auction $36.00
1/28/09 eBay Auction $46.51
1/22/09 eBay Auction $35.00
Thomas
Latest Auction Prices for: PSA 9 - Average Price: $49.98
Date Auction Link Price Extra
2/15/09 eBay Auction $55.75
12/27/08 eBay Listing $75.00
12/22/08 eBay Listing $55.00
12/17/08 eBay Listing $43.00
12/14/08 eBay Listing $42.00
12/14/08 eBay Listing $43.05
11/23/08 eBay Listing $52.00
11/20/08 eBay Listing $58.02
Wilkins
Latest Auction Prices for: PSA 9 - Average Price: $150.69
Date Auction Link Price Extra
3/2/09 eBay Auction $148.50
2/22/09 eBay Auction $169.50
2/15/09 eBay Auction $145.50
1/29/09 eBay Listing $155.00
1/21/09 eBay Listing $151.00
12/17/08 eBay Listing $127.55
12/14/08 eBay Listing $133.50
11/7/08 eBay Listing $114.55
9/21/08 eBay Listing $174.99
9/14/08 eBay Auction $203.62
Olajuwon
Latest Auction Prices for: PSA 9 - Average Price: $46.56
Date Auction Link Price Extra
3/1/09 eBay Auction $46.99
2/12/09 eBay Auction $51.00
1/28/09 eBay Auction $54.00
1/20/09 eBay Listing $49.99
1/16/09 eBay Listing $63.00
1/11/09 eBay Auction $34.03
1/3/09 eBay Listing $56.00
Checklist
Latest Auction Prices for: PSA 9 - Average Price: $187.79
Date Auction Link Price Extra
2/16/09 eBay Auction $234.50
2/11/09 eBay Auction $230.00
1/25/09 eBay Auction $217.50
1/5/09 eBay Listing $200.00
11/7/08 eBay Listing $174.05
10/26/08 eBay Auction $167.71
8/24/08 eBay $147.59
8/14/08 eBay $142.50
8/10/08 eBay $157.50
8/4/08 eBay $207.94
Jabbar
Latest Auction Prices for: PSA 9 - Average Price: $67.08
Date Auction Link Price Extra
3/2/09 eBay Auction $57.05
2/8/09 eBay Auction $68.50
1/25/09 eBay Auction $83.00
1/7/09 eBay Listing $70.00
12/24/08 eBay Auction $71.00
12/21/08 eBay Listing $77.05
Johnny Moore PSA 10
Latest Auction Prices for: PSA 10 - Average Price: $3,098.00
Date Auction Link Price Extra
12/20/08 eBay Listing $2,649.00
11/27/08 eBay Listing $3,650.00
11/26/08 eBay Listing $2,995.00
10/20/08 eBay Auction $2,627.77
9/8/08 eBay Auction $5,100.00
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<< <i>My I Thomas 9 just went for 89 (asking price) a few days ago:
link >>
The set does very well but sometimes auctions get missed and people get deals... I really think most cards will sell for high VCP price if the cards fixed price auctions... if someone needs the card to finish or start a set they will pay if your card is the only game in town.
If you look at the data on sales the cards go up and down sale by sale.
I have pulled two MJ rookies in my life this decade(both from BBCK at the Sun times/National). Once at the Sun Times four of us played pack wars and sure enough myself and another man pulled a MJ. He pulled his first and it was centered pretty well but I knew it was not a ten at first glance He was excited then I opened my pack and realized pretty quick my pack was similiar to his pack and that MJ was just a few cards away and mine was pretty clean as well but more OC. We agreed to let the true winner get all the cards minus the MJ. We just didnt want to take each others MJ due to the second highest value card. Well his got a BGS 9 and mine got a BGS 8.5. I would have won with an Akeem Olajuwon Sticker. I often wish I would have thought to say the winner gets his choice of the jordans but I did get four clean packs of cards + one MJ 8.5 for the price of 250.00 so it was a great day.
In that SAME box a BGS GEM MINT got pulled the following day and sold for 17K at that very show. I always think I had a one in three chance of pulling the holy grail in GEM MINT condition. I saw the card after BGS graded it and it looked flawless to me.
There will be three or four people that leave this break with a memory that can not be erased. It is a feelign like no other to see that card staring back at you.
I have busted about ten packs in my life(all from the nationals or chicago based shows) and pulled two MJ rookies in my life so I would like to own another pack that I can guarantee is unsearched(BBCE) but not sure I want to bust it.
I want to also say back then it was not that difficult to get your money back from a pack because PSA 9s sold for 30.00
I had one pack that yeilded a Karl Malone and Jabbar PSA 9(250.00 + 170.00 and six PSA 9 commons). However, the prices have changed since then and dont follow them at all actually.
Is the Jeff Malone card still a tough card to get in high grade?? Checklist??
sorry so long just let me know if that will be ok and I am in because I won some dough playing texas hold em and want this group rip to happen. I think it will be an amazing thing to see unfold.
gitty up brotha
<< <i>I have a question- If I do go ahead and get a pack to try and finish the last nine slots is it ok if I do not open my pack??
I have pulled two MJ rookies in my life this decade(both from BBCK at the Sun times/National). Once at the Sun Times four of us played pack wars and sure enough myself and another man pulled a MJ. He pulled his first and it was centered pretty well but I knew it was not a ten at first glance He was excited then I opened my pack and realized pretty quick my pack was similiar to his pack and that MJ was just a few cards away and mine was pretty clean as well but more OC. We agreed to let the true winner get all the cards minus the MJ. We just didnt want to take each others MJ due to the second highest value card. Well his got a BGS 9 and mine got a BGS 8.5. I would have won with an Akeem Olajuwon Sticker. I often wish I would have thought to say the winner gets his choice of the jordans but I did get four clean packs of cards + one MJ 8.5 for the price of 250.00 so it was a great day.
In that SAME box a BGS GEM MINT got pulled the following day and sold for 17K at that very show. I always think I had a one in three chance of pulling the holy grail in GEM MINT condition. I saw the card after BGS graded it and it looked flawless to me.
There will be three or four people that leave this break with a memory that can not be erased. It is a feelign like no other to see that card staring back at you.
I have busted about ten packs in my life(all from the nationals or chicago based shows) and pulled two MJ rookies in my life so I would like to own another pack that I can guarantee is unsearched(BBCE) but not sure I want to bust it.
I want to also say back then it was not that difficult to get your money back from a pack because PSA 9s sold for 30.00
I had one pack that yeilded a Karl Malone and Jabbar PSA 9(250.00 + 170.00 and six PSA 9 commons). However, the prices have changed since then and dont follow them at all actually.
Is the Jeff Malone card still a tough card to get in high grade?? Checklist??
sorry so long just let me know if that will be ok and I am in because I won some dough playing texas hold em and want this group rip to happen. I think it will be an amazing thing to see unfold. >>
Ha! You call that a pack war? This, mon ami, is a pack war!
<< <i>no one said you have to open it.. you spend the money.. you own the damn thing..
gitty up brotha >>
I just thought it was a group break and wanted to be up front that I prolly would not open it. I just didnt want people to wonder where the 36th pack was that didnt get scanned/opened.
Alright if that is the case I am in guys.
<< <i>
<< <i>no one said you have to open it.. you spend the money.. you own the damn thing..
gitty up brotha >>
I just thought it was a group break and wanted to be up front that I prolly would not open it. I just didnt want people to wonder where the 36th pack was that didnt get scanned/opened.
Alright if that is the case I am in guys. >>
Does this mean you want 1?
Current obsession, all things Topps 1969 - 1972
<< <i>what the hell, I'm in for one but I warn ya, I already have a graded Jordan (SGC 92)
thanks you are in... 7 Packs to go!
Trev
<< <i>I'll take two.
Trev >>
You are in! and I will also take 1 more so that means there are only 4 left to sell!
Robb
will PSA designate from a full box???
Thanks.
<< <i>how do we decide who gets the actual empty box?? We should get the box as well if we are paying 10K for the entire box?? >>
IMO the box should go to the rips organizer, leathtech
done
<< <i>i better get some good pack karma for giving it the last push. >>
We are NOW sold out... I've already sent an e-mail to Steve @ BBCE for shipping prices so we can start paying.
<< <i>anyone have any luck every getting a 10? i had 3 (magic, wilkens, dr j) about a year ago come back 8.5 and 8, 8. i thought they looked freakin perfect. clearly not. i'd love to see what a 10 looks like up close so i have an idea about what to and what not to grade. >>
Wow! I'm very impressed that you guys sold this out!
I've been subbing 86 Fleers on and off since 1999...and sometimes I do think that 10s were given out alot more frequently back then.
<< <i>anyone have any luck every getting a 10? i had 3 (magic, wilkens, dr j) about a year ago come back 8.5 and 8, 8. i thought they looked freakin perfect. clearly not. i'd love to see what a 10 looks like up close so i have an idea about what to and what not to grade. >>
I got a few PSA 10 commons in the past(World B Free is one I got and I believe two other not so rare PSA 10s at the time). I prolly submitted a total of about 50 cards from packs I opened myself and got all the 10s from unopened wax. I had a lot of 100 cards or so submitted back in 2003 or 2004 that got about 80% 9s but no 10s the lot. They were clean but had been opened almost two decades earlier and must have had slight touches under a loupe. I do not use a loupe and prolly should learn but again at the time the PSA 9s were about 30.00 per card so I made a good profit on the submission.
The PSA 10s at the time sold for about 175.00 per card and not much difference between a PSA 9 or PSA 10 IMHO. I had 9s that looked better than the World B Free IMHO.
$7.00 for 1 pack
$9.00 for 2 packs
$11.00 for 3 packs
$13.00 for 4 packs
Will go UPS and the prices are not due to weight, but insurance.
thanks everyone for selling this out!
Jasen
The rest of my order
2-84 topps football wax packs
2 86 topps football rack packs
3-84 topps baseball wax packs
18-84 donruss wax packs
6-89 score football packs
1-92 donruss series one box(Elite chasing only)
I hope PSA will designate FROM A FULL BOX when I submit it.
Mine is paid for
Amount: $844.31 USD
Transaction Date: Mar. 4, 2009
Transaction ID: 045519827T498205B
Subject: 1986 Fleer basketball rip
<< <i>Paid. Fingers crossed. Feel nervous. Lots of money. >>
I agree this is crazy... This taps out my collecting budget for a little while!
I cannot believe the whole box sold out.
That is impressive IMHO.
What is Steve's paypal address or would he rather I call up and give him a credit card #? Probably should call him as I may also be paying him for a 77 Topps FB vending box and would like to combine shipping.
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
<< <i>I may have missed this somewhere, so apologies in advance if I did.
What is Steve's paypal address or would he rather I call up and give him a credit card #? Probably should call him as I may also be paying him for a 77 Topps FB vending box and would like to combine shipping. >>
paypal address which is BBCExchange@sprintmail.com, or you can use a credit card, directly without using Paypal by calling BBCE at 800-598-8656 and ask for Rick. Make sure to include "1986 Fleer basketball rip" and your CU user name in your payment/message.
<< <i>GOOD LUCK GUYS. WAY TO STICK WITH IT LEATHTECH! FOR YOU GUYS THAT ARE RIPPING THEM, CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE RESULTS. >>
I thought for sure this was a no go... Glad to see this sold out and I hope this works out well for everyone.
Also it was nice to see some newer board members jump in on this rip.
Good Luck to all!
We are not going to ship any packs out today. I will bring my video camera in tomorrow morning and film the packs being packaged up and shipped. They will go out UPS tomorrow (of course, the ones that have been paid for)!
Stoney
For Sale
Steve will be taking a video of the packs being packed up and shipped out... he'll post a link once he does it.
It would be kind of cool if some of the people getting packs would be willing to video their rip.