I might have to pass on this one. I will have severe buyers remorse if I don't get a Jordan knowing I could have purchased a skid of junk wax with that money .
<< <i>i like the idea of steve busting a pack to get an idea on centering. not sure if it would be indicitive of every pack, but would be nice to know. >>
How much would it suck if Steve pulled the Jordan... and would we all still be willing to buy?
Ldferg is going to pull another MJ but this one will come back PSA 10-
I remember he pulled a pretty sweet some time back
then call me the prophet- lol
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For $277 a pack...I have a couple questions for those who have busted a lot of this -
What is the typical centering on the 86 Fleer? Hopefully not like 75 Topps minis.
Is the centering usually consistent through the entire box?
How many cards in a pack?
Does the front of the last card in the pack face the wax seal (where the wax will come off) or have the back facing the seal where you end up with wax stains on the back of the card?
<< <i>For $277 a pack...I have a couple questions for those who have busted a lot of this -
What is the typical centering on the 86 Fleer? Hopefully not like 75 Topps minis.
Is the centering usually consistent through the entire box?
How many cards in a pack?
Does the front of the last card in the pack face the wax seal (where the wax will come off) or have the back facing the seal where you end up with wax stains on the back of the card?
Thanks,
Mark >>
Hopefully fergie23 will jump in, he has bust a bunch in the past few months!
i purchased some 86 fleers wax packs from someone who had a full box graded and the centering varied....i popped a gem 10 and some of the other cards i have yet to send into PSA to get graded can also be 10's imo, i also cracked from the same box a pack that had horrible centering lol...and the sad part was there was a dominique wilkins that had great egdes , corners and surface, except on the centering , lol...but honestly from the wax i have cracked from a full box, i would venture out and say most would be better than bad....this is my humble opinion
each pack has 12 reg issued cards and 1 sticker, the sticker on the back has the wax on it
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
Last bump and then we are done... I will e-mail Steve and ask if he will still sell packs for $277 each and if anyone that wants some can buy them on their own.
If this helps anyone: I have opened quite a few boxes of 86 Fleer Bskt, IT is a no brainer 10 out of 11 packs are great your odds on a Jordan Rc are like 1 in 11, same odds with all the superstars/rc's. true centering varies but most of the time the worst is 70/30, I have always considered this to be like a sure bet unless your luck sucks and you get that 1 ugly pack out of 11. Every box of pure clean 86 fleer I opened had at least 3 of everyone and sometimes 4. If I had the money I would go for at least 4 or 5, but I am so broke , I have to go and beg for quarters to supply my booze and drug habit. Hope this helps and please paypal me some money for brooze and other things (like toilet paper). JMHO
thinking about odds in terms of sucker bets in vegas. you have a 1/11 chance at a jordan which will pay something like 2:1 on your 270 investment. that's worse than the wheel of fortune, right? maybe everyone should pool their cash and send someone to put it on black and spin the roulette wheel once instead
How about both? Bet on a Gem Jordan and play cards. Only blackjack! I have it down where the house only has 1.5 to 2.0% advantage when you play correctly. When your bets are larger you can clean up. Took casino's last year for over 60 Large. Going to AC in two weeks.... Can't wait.
I will officially close this down on Friday... if the packs are not sold out by then everyone is on their own and contact BBCE to buy single packs from them directly. I've not confirmed this but I'd be surprised if BBCE was not willing to extend the same offer to us on individual orders.
And I love Vegas just as much as anything but for me I would still rather rip open a nice pack than play BJ or spin the wheel!
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
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<< <i>I will take 2 please. >>
Turbos you are down for 2!!!
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
Always looking for Chipper Jones cards.
Im a very focused collector of cards from 1909 - 2012...LOL
<< <i>please put me down for one. >>
you're down! thanks...
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
<< <i>i like the idea of steve busting a pack to get an idea on centering. not sure if it would be indicitive of every pack, but would be nice to know. >>
How much would it suck if Steve pulled the Jordan... and would we all still be willing to buy?
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
<< <i>please put me down for one. >>
Ldferg is going to pull another MJ but this one will come back PSA 10-
I remember he pulled a pretty sweet some time back
then call me the prophet- lol
I MAY buy one or two packs......
Not sure yet but considering it.......
What is the typical centering on the 86 Fleer? Hopefully not like 75 Topps minis.
Is the centering usually consistent through the entire box?
How many cards in a pack?
Does the front of the last card in the pack face the wax seal (where the wax will come off) or have the back facing the seal where you end up with wax stains on the back of the card?
Thanks,
Mark
"Molon Labe"
<< <i>For $277 a pack...I have a couple questions for those who have busted a lot of this -
What is the typical centering on the 86 Fleer? Hopefully not like 75 Topps minis.
Is the centering usually consistent through the entire box?
How many cards in a pack?
Does the front of the last card in the pack face the wax seal (where the wax will come off) or have the back facing the seal where you end up with wax stains on the back of the card?
Thanks,
Mark >>
Hopefully fergie23 will jump in, he has bust a bunch in the past few months!
each pack has 12 reg issued cards and 1 sticker, the sticker on the back has the wax on it
<< <i>Who was it that just pulled a Jordan? Boy, that makes me want to jump in for a few packs. Must see ohow ebay auctions due Monday night.
shameless plug >>
Nice unopened pack of Red Man u have up on eBay!
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
<< <i>i'll take a second one-going to be pack warring with a buddy. I'm probably the only person in this rip who will be rooting for a checklist... >>
The 86 Fleer checklist is one of my all time favorite cards. Whoever pulls one, I'd appreciate first crack at it.
we have stalled out with 20 packs to go... please post if you would like one.
:-)
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
I'll give in
<< <i>Come on people.......it be a fun rip! >>
you are in... anyone else, only 19 packs to go!
so make that two
<< <i>I will buy one, until this FRI at noon. Then I withdraw my offer, I do not want to sit around and wait for this to sell out. >>
What your not crying because it isn't Hockey??
thinking about odds in terms of sucker bets in vegas. you have a 1/11 chance at a jordan which will pay something like 2:1 on your 270 investment. that's worse than the wheel of fortune, right? maybe everyone should pool their cash and send someone to put it on black and spin the roulette wheel once instead
<< <i>.......which will pay something like 2:1 on your 270 investment....... >>
Impossible to calculate without knowing the condition on the possible Jordan.
same idea holds.
"Live everyday, don't throw it away"
And I love Vegas just as much as anything but for me I would still rather rip open a nice pack than play BJ or spin the wheel!
Thanks.
<< <i>I'll take three (3) packs.
Thanks. >>
you're in!
For Sale
<< <i>I'll take one. >>
you're in! thanks!