<<Nah, those aren't die polish lines, just the bonus you get from the fulfillment center's extra buffing and cleaning service that they have added because they felt so bad for delaying shipment.>>
I thought about polishing the reverse, which has no lines, so they match, ya know.
Wow, is this confusing. I did however look at the site and sound the $14 for FS fee, which I did put on form. Also as added procation put a sticky note on form asking that all packaging be returned. Did not know of extra cost. Last time I did not pay enough they were nice enough to call me to OK extra charge. So we will see if they look at my submission funny and do me right. I'm more concerned about getting a good grade out of it than anything else. Could I be so lucky to get a '70 ??? or an '69.... Let's hope mine will do OK............
This is the first true auction for a UHR FS MS70 that I have seen. This will be interesting. Anyone still sitting on the fence about submitting for FS?
<< <i>This is the first true auction for a UHR FS MS70 that I have seen. This will be interesting. Anyone still sitting on the fence about submitting for FS?
<< <i>Does anyone have the pop. on the first strikes of these coins? >>
PCGS still has it at 3 out of 3 submitted >>
Do you have a link for the pop reports that show this? I've been looking at the PCGS pop report for gold Eagles 1986 to date and it doesn't appear there. Link I know that there is at least 1 MS69, Submission #3900942
<< <i>Does anyone have the pop. on the first strikes of these coins? >>
PCGS still has it at 3 out of 3 submitted >>
Do you have a link for the pop reports that show this? I've been looking at the PCGS pop report for gold Eagles 1986 to date and it doesn't appear there. Link I know that there is at least 1 MS69, Submission #3900942 >>
On the right upper part of the pop report page you can look up pops by coin number. The pop report is only updated once a week so even thou there is a known 69 it may not be listed on the pop report yet.
<< <i>my order was 3086xxxx, still waiting and no word. They claim it is "being processed" my card has not been hit yet. >>
My CC wasn't hit until two days after I received my ship notice email from the USMint.
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I checked and i am only seeing 3 graded in F/S 70.Am i missing something? >>
If you go through the shared order pages you will see that more than just 3 were graded ms70. There is one submission where there are 4/4 ms70's. I also saw an ms69 on one submission.
<< <i>Chill imron, I'm responding to the guy flippin chit about flippers. Guys who want more than one are glad some people are willing to sell theirs. If your pissed at flippers blame the mint limit one is why flippers exist. >>
He's just a former flipper, now a self proclaimed anti-flippite, the hiprocracy is astonishing.... >>
If you are referring to me, you should get your facts straight. I flipped some, and I still flip some. I just don't go out of my way to get 5-10-20 of something and screw others that way. I pretty much play within the mint's rules on this and do things that way. Nothing wrong with staying within the guidelines and flipping as long as collectors get a chance, I say. And, yes, the mint's inadequacy adds to the problem for a true collector.
I also don't appreciate the ones that buy, inspect, say "not a 70", and return it. I have never played that game.
Same for those that buy, counting on PMs going up, and return within the old 30 days to play that game.
It's ones like that that have ruined things going for the rest of us. Not hypocritical at all. Maybe you just wanted to be negative on it or attack me? Or you felt guilty at doing the above, Casman? >>
I was responding to your unsolicited rant, and I think I got it right, you stated in response to who knows what: "Great....more flippers who know nothing but trying to flip...so they can just complain when things don't go right.......great....I'm sure all the collectors who haven't gotten their stuff yet because others crowded it JUST to flip, appreciate it".
That seemed like a complaint about flippers, and since you were or now admittedly are one, and have complained in the past when things didn't go right.
I checked and i am only seeing 3 graded in F/S 70.Am i missing something? >>
You checked to early ... latest pop report shows total graded: 47 MS 70.............36 MS 69.............10 MS 68............. 1
YOu are going to see a big increase in the coming 2 to 3 weeks...and it looks like a good % will grade 70 >>
And there are already 13 MS70FS's on eBay, including one still unsold with a BIN price of $4000. >>
Odds are that anything listed above $4k will remain unsold... most recent completed eBay auction prices so far indicate....PCGS FS 70's ............. $3000 - $3500 range NGC ER 70's... .......$2500 - $3000 range Those prices will not hold and expect a drop by next week.
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I wish I had the money. I would give it to 5-10 different friends/relationships and grade them all. Sell what is best, keep 1-2 70's if I have them and that is that. No returns. 10 coins max. I missed out on this game until now and don't think I will be able to play for other personal reasons. I could have but no longer. I really could use the money. I am disabled and have to go through a separation from spouse. Bad timing on that. Bad economy.I keep NOTHING at home. It is all somewhere else. I also borrowed alot of money from mom and she has the notes and needs to be repaid. I could have made the money and paid her. I would have claimed it all on my taxes as well. That would also allow me to take associated deductions (ie:traveling to a show, shipping harges, computer, G3, etc,. ). I have special needs. They include a trained defensive/service dog, and other security measures which I will not discuss but you wouldn't want to mess with.
I think most in our interest are honorable to a degree but I know of ways to track and pin someone. That is why I protect myself.
Do I send my ONE for First Strike grading. PM me please.
If I could get another I would rather it get graded and keep this one. Timing does not permit (or funds)
I can always crack it out.
Again thoughts please pm me..
Ships are safe in harbor but thats not what ships were built for.
I see a few MS70's near completion at EBay with current bids under $2000.00. Too bad Charlie waited as long as he did as the competition is heating up with one dealer offering a number at $2600, yet shipped.
Think I will keep mine sealed and FS Eligible untill I see a shift one way or the other.
one ebater selling first strike pcgs 70 for 2699 OBO. 18 left. some auctions already at 2800. Market is alot more first strike's than people thought thier were.
<< <i>I think the st gaudens 20 is far more beautuiful than the UHR gold coin. >>
Really? The circulating $20 was a major artistic compromise, contradicting St. Gaudens original intentions. The 1907 circulating High Relief was an acceptable compromise, but comparatively speaking, the standard 1907 through 1933 $20 coin is a steamrolled, lame piece of crap. The high relief process is an absolute necessity when portraying a frontal human figure moving forward. The reverse, however is still aesthetically pleasing in low relief. Although the low relief pancake was a practical alternative, the artistry was lost in the process.
Just got mine too. The magnet that holds the coin up for display is pretty strong. It snaps the wood holder out of my hand. Lots of packaging for just one coin. I'm going to take pictures and........
Some members have reported problems with the UHR orders (damage of some type). Some members have said they will hold the sealed box. Seems like a sealed box could be hiding an issue just as easily as a winner. Any guess on the percentage with issues (key word guess).
I see the person on EBAY selling pre orders, not in hand, for $2699.95. Does not look bad at all when you look at the completed PCGS.
Just an experiment - received 2 UHRs last week. Called the US Mint number to track my received orders and they say that they are "In process". So, I guess even when there isn't a problem, the information from the automated tracking program is uselss.
<< <i>Just an experiment - received 2 UHRs last week. Called the US Mint number to track my received orders and they say that they are "In process". So, I guess even when there isn't a problem, the information from the automated tracking program is uselss.
Jeff >>
See! Now that's funny, clever but funny! And so it seems the Mint never misses an opportunity to embarrass itself.
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I thought about polishing the reverse, which has no lines, so they match, ya know.
<< <i>Here's those die polish lines, looks like Liberty tangled with with fine grit sandpaper. >>
looks like mine did.
even the heavier lines to the right of liberty above MMIX
yours even is the FBB variety, too. (full bellybutton)
<< <i>Did you pay the $14 hanling fee for the return of the mint box etc? >>
FS was $10
then when they stopped and started for club members they said one complaint they had was returning the box, etc. They restored FS to the club at $12.
Now it is $14.
Dealers never wanted the boxes back? They stopped taking in boxes before FS and still raised the price?
You have to declare FS and the $14 fee on the form. E-mail PCGS if you did not.
Thanks again for updates.
Wow, is this confusing.
I did however look at the site and sound the $14 for FS fee, which I did put on form.
Also as added procation put a sticky note on form asking that all packaging be returned.
Did not know of extra cost.
Last time I did not pay enough they were nice enough to call me to OK extra charge.
So we will see if they look at my submission funny and do me right.
I'm more concerned about getting a good grade out of it than anything else.
Could I be so lucky to get a '70 ??? or an '69....
Let's hope mine will do OK............
This is the first true auction for a UHR FS MS70 that I have seen. This will be interesting. Anyone still sitting on the fence about submitting for FS?
UHR FS MS70
<< <i>Does anyone have the pop. on the first strikes of these coins? >>
PCGS still has it at 3 out of 3 submitted
It looks like a 70 to me under my loupe.
I can get a pcgs member to confirm the thought on Monday locally.
I can get another.
But this one is very special.
It is in hand and I love it as is.
No slab will make it look better.
Thoughts
I guess I can crack it out down the road as well too.
Thank you for any advice
<< <i>This is the first true auction for a UHR FS MS70 that I have seen. This will be interesting. Anyone still sitting on the fence about submitting for FS?
UHR FS MS70 >>
Send them in !!!!
Just wondering, tried to comb through the posts, but can't tell, should I have received my coin by now, I ordered on 01/27, order number 30903XXX...
don't mean to be a bother, but I know the brain surgeons manning the Mint hotline are anything but helpful......
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<< <i>Does anyone have the pop. on the first strikes of these coins? >>
PCGS still has it at 3 out of 3 submitted >>
Do you have a link for the pop reports that show this? I've been looking at the PCGS pop report for gold Eagles 1986 to date and it doesn't appear there. Link I know that there is at least 1 MS69, Submission #3900942
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<< <i>To slab my UHR first strike or not. that is the question.
It looks like a 70 to me under my loupe.
I can get a pcgs member to confirm the thought on Monday locally.
I can get another.
But this one is very special.
It is in hand and I love it as is.
No slab will make it look better.
Thoughts
I guess I can crack it out down the road as well too.
Thank you for any advice
if you plan on breaking it out, why slab it?
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>Does anyone have the pop. on the first strikes of these coins? >>
PCGS still has it at 3 out of 3 submitted >>
Do you have a link for the pop reports that show this? I've been looking at the PCGS pop report for gold Eagles 1986 to date and it doesn't appear there. Link I know that there is at least 1 MS69, Submission #3900942 >>
On the right upper part of the pop report page you can look up pops by coin number.
The pop report is only updated once a week so even thou there is a known 69 it may not be listed on the pop report yet.
<< <i>Good evening, everyone, hope you are all having a good weekend...
Just wondering, tried to comb through the posts, but can't tell, should I have received my coin by now, I ordered on 01/27, order number 30903XXX...
don't mean to be a bother, but I know the brain surgeons manning the Mint hotline are anything but helpful...... >>
no definite knowledge here.
not sure how many orders filled so far.
many will be surprised you were not filled first.
<< <i>Good evening, everyone, hope you are all having a good weekend...
Just wondering, tried to comb through the posts, but can't tell, should I have received my coin by now, I ordered on 01/27, order number 30903XXX...
don't mean to be a bother, but I know the brain surgeons manning the Mint hotline are anything but helpful...... >>
my order was 3086xxxx, still waiting and no word. They claim it is "being processed" my card has not been hit yet.
Fred, Las Vegas, NV
<< <i>my order was 3086xxxx, still waiting and no word. They claim it is "being processed" my card has not been hit yet.
My CC wasn't hit until two days after I received my ship notice email from the USMint.
<< <i>The POP is 36 in MS70 so far. >>
I checked and i am only seeing 3 graded in F/S 70.Am i missing something?
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<< <i>The POP is 36 in MS70 so far. >>
I checked and i am only seeing 3 graded in F/S 70.Am i missing something? >>
If you go through the shared order pages you will see that more than just 3 were graded ms70. There is one submission where there are 4/4 ms70's. I also saw an ms69 on one submission.
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<< <i>The POP is 36 in MS70 so far. >>
I checked and i am only seeing 3 graded in F/S 70.Am i missing something? >>
You checked to early ... latest pop report shows
total graded: 47
MS 70.............36
MS 69.............10
MS 68............. 1
YOu are going to see a big increase in the coming 2 to 3 weeks...and it looks like a good % will grade 70
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>Chill imron, I'm responding to the guy flippin chit about flippers. Guys who want more than one are glad some people are willing to sell theirs. If your pissed at flippers blame the mint limit one is why flippers exist. >>
He's just a former flipper, now a self proclaimed anti-flippite, the hiprocracy is astonishing....
If you are referring to me, you should get your facts straight.
I flipped some, and I still flip some. I just don't go out of my way to get 5-10-20 of something and screw others that way. I pretty much play within the mint's rules on this and do things that way. Nothing wrong with staying within the guidelines and flipping as long as collectors get a chance, I say. And, yes, the mint's inadequacy adds to the problem for a true collector.
I also don't appreciate the ones that buy, inspect, say "not a 70", and return it. I have never played that game.
Same for those that buy, counting on PMs going up, and return within the old 30 days to play that game.
It's ones like that that have ruined things going for the rest of us. Not hypocritical at all. Maybe you just wanted to be negative on it or attack me? Or you felt guilty at doing the above, Casman? >>
I was responding to your unsolicited rant, and I think I got it right, you stated in response to who knows what: "Great....more flippers who know nothing but trying to flip...so they can just complain when things don't go right.......great....I'm sure all the collectors who haven't gotten their stuff yet because others crowded it JUST to flip, appreciate it".
That seemed like a complaint about flippers, and since you were or now admittedly are one, and have complained in the past when things didn't go right.
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>The POP is 36 in MS70 so far. >>
I checked and i am only seeing 3 graded in F/S 70.Am i missing something? >>
You checked to early ... latest pop report shows
total graded: 47
MS 70.............36
MS 69.............10
MS 68............. 1
YOu are going to see a big increase in the coming 2 to 3 weeks...and it looks like a good % will grade 70 >>
And there are already 13 MS70FS's on eBay, including one still unsold with a BIN price of $4000.
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>The POP is 36 in MS70 so far. >>
I checked and i am only seeing 3 graded in F/S 70.Am i missing something? >>
You checked to early ... latest pop report shows
total graded: 47
MS 70.............36
MS 69.............10
MS 68............. 1
YOu are going to see a big increase in the coming 2 to 3 weeks...and it looks like a good % will grade 70 >>
And there are already 13 MS70FS's on eBay, including one still unsold with a BIN price of $4000. >>
Odds are that anything listed above $4k will remain unsold...
most recent completed eBay auction prices so far indicate....PCGS FS 70's ............. $3000 - $3500 range
NGC ER 70's... .......$2500 - $3000 range
Those prices will not hold and expect a drop by next week.
I think most in our interest are honorable to a degree but I know of ways to track and pin someone. That is why I protect myself.
Do I send my ONE for First Strike grading. PM me please.
If I could get another I would rather it get graded and keep this one. Timing does not permit (or funds)
I can always crack it out.
Again thoughts please pm me..
Too bad Charlie waited as long as he did as the competition is heating up with one dealer offering a number at $2600, yet shipped.
Think I will keep mine sealed and FS Eligible untill I see a shift one way or the other.
Miles
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<< <i>I think the st gaudens 20 is far more beautuiful than the UHR gold coin. >>
That's what I say every time a new model for a car comes out. Six months later, I start warming up to the new design and say, "what was I thinking?"
<< <i>I think the st gaudens 20 is far more beautuiful than the UHR gold coin. >>
Really?
The circulating $20 was a major artistic compromise, contradicting St. Gaudens original intentions. The 1907 circulating High Relief was an acceptable compromise, but comparatively speaking, the standard 1907 through 1933 $20 coin is a steamrolled, lame piece of crap. The high relief process is an absolute necessity when portraying a frontal human figure moving forward. The reverse, however is still aesthetically pleasing in low relief.
Although the low relief pancake was a practical alternative, the artistry was lost in the process.
1 on its way to PCGS and the other to JMRC.
Glad that is over with!
and the paintings (flats) don't have the advantage of lighting effects to create depth
I'll take the uhr.
<< <i>My 2 finally came in.
1 on its way to PCGS and the other to JMRC.
Glad that is over with! >>
i am hoping you kept the right one!
i have one being delivered today and hope the other has a shipping date by Wednesday, undecided as the window for looking at FS is closing....
hey OPA...BTW what was the % of FS reverse proof plats in PR70DCAM ?...similar to these in MS70? you seem to know, or have been following the numbers
on my desk as i type this
one of secretarys neded to sign, via FedEx
An open question.
Some members have reported problems with the UHR orders (damage of some type).
Some members have said they will hold the sealed box. Seems like a sealed box
could be hiding an issue just as easily as a winner. Any guess on the percentage
with issues (key word guess).
I see the person on EBAY selling pre orders, not in hand, for $2699.95. Does not look
bad at all when you look at the completed PCGS.
Jeff
Mint deserves a BIG YOU SUCK for this mess.
<< <i>Just an experiment - received 2 UHRs last week. Called the US Mint number to track my received orders and they say that they are "In process". So, I guess even when there isn't a problem, the information from the automated tracking program is uselss.
Jeff >>
See! Now that's funny, clever but funny! And so it seems the Mint never misses an opportunity to embarrass itself.