<< <i>You know, I'm torn about whether or not to send mine back. The fields and details on mine are all superb - it's the rim above States of America that has the flaws. They don't really distract, but clearly it isn't perfect. It does have some die polish, but only visible when tilted the right way. Overall, though, the coin is beautiful. No, it wouldn't likely merit a 70, but I'm sure it would score a 69. I think I'll keep it as is. I'm just afraid that the replacement wouldn't be any better, or heaven forbid, I would get Ms M's greasy slug! >>
I'd take a 69. I've got many ASE, AGE, APE, buffalo, on and on that are 69's...
personally, I don't care at all.
I found the marks on mine too distracting.
I'm surprised to see and hear of so many with marks on them.
>>>>>>>>>>> Any opinions on this earlier post?!? <<<<<<<<<<
Ok, I've heard it all now. Unfortunately, what I heard just doesn't smell right. During a conversation with a Mint Rep earlier today, I was told that my order had a 'Pick #' at one time which was subsequently voided.
My 'Pick #' was VOIDED!! I am very concerned that what this means is that they have no more UHRs to ship until the Mint starts another batch.
Furthermore, since they did not ship FIFO, many people that should have gotten their UHRs because they were 'first in line' will have involuntarily forfeited their UHR to those in the 'back of the line'.
This is what I have been worried about all week. Have they really run out of stock? What say the Forum??
<< <i>as said before: call them with the newer order numbers >>
i actually faxed them real orders showing they were shipping out of order. their only comment was that they would forward my complaint and the faxed copies of the orders to their boss (i think his name is "the black hole").
<< <i>>>>>>>>>>>> Any opinions on this earlier post?!? <<<<<<<<<<
Ok, I've heard it all now. Unfortunately, what I heard just doesn't smell right. During a conversation with a Mint Rep earlier today, I was told that my order had a 'Pick #' at one time which was subsequently voided.
My 'Pick #' was VOIDED!! I am very concerned that what this means is that they have no more UHRs to ship until the Mint starts another batch.
Furthermore, since they did not ship FIFO, many people that should have gotten their UHRs because they were 'first in line' will have involuntarily forfeited their UHR to those in the 'back of the line'.
This is what I have been worried about all week. Have they really run out of stock? What say the Forum?? >>
Yeah - MOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnneyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!! For the rest of us.
I was told by 1 mint rep. that less than 29k were produced initally. They might be out now. I was also told that mine was in the warehouse and would ship on 3/6 or 3/9. Who knows what to believe anymore.
<< <i>I was told by 1 mint rep. that less than 29k were produced initally. They might be out now. I was also told that mine was in the warehouse and would ship on 3/6 or 3/9. Who knows what to believe anymore. >>
what's the first 5 digits of your order number and date of order?
<< <i>I was told by 1 mint rep. that less than 29k were produced initally. They might be out now. I was also told that mine was in the warehouse and would ship on 3/6 or 3/9. Who knows what to believe anymore. >>
what's the first 5 digits of your order number and date of order? >>
30836XXX I have not received, ordered first day. 30884XXX I receieved 8 days ago. i ordered it the day after release day. go figure
<< <i>I was told by 1 mint rep. that less than 29k were produced initally. They might be out now. I was also told that mine was in the warehouse and would ship on 3/6 or 3/9. Who knows what to believe anymore. >>
what's the first 5 digits of your order number and date of order? >>
30836XXX I have not received, ordered first day. 30884XXX I receieved 8 days ago. i ordered it the day after release day. go figure >>
give them the 30884xxx number and tell them that's a friend and they got it 8 days ago and you should have gotten yours shipped already.
<< <i>I was told by 1 mint rep. that less than 29k were produced initally. They might be out now. I was also told that mine was in the warehouse and would ship on 3/6 or 3/9. Who knows what to believe anymore. >>
what's the first 5 digits of your order number and date of order? >>
30836XXX I have not received, ordered first day. 30884XXX I receieved 8 days ago. i ordered it the day after release day. go figure >>
What ever happened to the early bird gettin the worm?
imron, do you want to know how many of these, via a picture, I am sending in for a co-worker that had his entire family order these a few days after they were released? It's enough to make you sick.
<< <i>I was told by 1 mint rep. that less than 29k were produced initally. They might be out now. I was also told that mine was in the warehouse and would ship on 3/6 or 3/9. Who knows what to believe anymore. >>
what's the first 5 digits of your order number and date of order? >>
30836XXX I have not received, ordered first day. 30884XXX I receieved 8 days ago. i ordered it the day after release day. go figure >>
give them the 30884xxx number and tell them that's a friend and they got it 8 days ago and you should have gotten yours shipped already.
ask them to move you up. >>
I have gone over all this with them. They pretty much know something went wrong. Either they don't know what or they are not willing to say what the screw-up is.
<< <i>imron, do you want to know how many of these, via a picture, I am sending in for a co-worker that had his entire family order these a few days after they were released? It's enough to make you sick. >>
I sold mine today to Mitch, Wondercoin and am out of this unbelievable nonsense. It's going to be a long time before I order anything else from the Mint.
<< <i>I have gone over all this with them. They pretty much know something went wrong. Either they don't know what or they are not willing to say what the screw-up is. >>
try to get them to fess up.
no one blamed them for the book, the negativity was all the cover-up.
try to nice it out of them without suggesting anything they may just agree with automatically with a "yes, that's it."
<< <i>imron, do you want to know how many of these, via a picture, I am sending in for a co-worker that had his entire family order these a few days after they were released? It's enough to make you sick. >>
I'm already sick, but if u want to kill me, fire away!!
<< <i>imron, do you want to know how many of these, via a picture, I am sending in for a co-worker that had his entire family order these a few days after they were released? It's enough to make you sick. >>
Did they know about all this on their own, or were you trumping up the flipping opportunities to them and they went and did this?
Hey everyone. I was swept away on a wave of UHR excitement. Despite my initial opposition to the first strike "nonsense", I just shipped out my coin for a first strike holder. I spent about $100 in fees. Who knows if any of this will be worth the expense, but it's a chance I decided to take. I'm having fun, I think.
<< <i>imron, do you want to know how many of these, via a picture, I am sending in for a co-worker that had his entire family order these a few days after they were released? It's enough to make you sick. >>
Did they know about all this on their own, or were you trumping up the flipping opportunities to them and they went and did this? >>
I purchased one coin. I told a co-worker, who has purchased a few items in the past for flipping, about the coin but I did not trump them up at all. I told him about the 20th Ann Silver coins, the first First Spouse coins, and the 08 rev 07 coins and he did ok on those. I actually told him I was only buying one and didn't really think there would be much $$ to be made because of the unlimited mintage and whatnot. He went out on his own and bout a few of them. I guess if he gets the FS on them, he made a good decision. I would say that he wouldn't have known to purchase them if I hadn't told him. So, he is probably going to be a flipper here...
I will not get anything for the coins he purchased, I don't even know what he is going to do with them yet. After he got them, I mentioned he should get them graded and he is going to listen to me, I just have to submit them for him.
Plus Final value fee of Equal to or Over $1000.01 8.75% of the initial $25.00 ($2.19), plus 3.50% of the initial $25.01 - $1,000.00 ($34.12), plus 1.50% of the remaining closing value balance($1000.01 - closing value)
Plus Final value fee of Equal to or Over $1000.01 8.75% of the initial $25.00 ($2.19), plus 3.50% of the initial $25.01 - $1,000.00 ($34.12), plus 1.50% of the remaining closing value balance($1000.01 - closing value)
Plus Paypal 2.9%
So the total on $1575.00= about 95.00 >>
Yep, add paypal fees.
I figured a while ago that with an initial purchase price of $1189 and selling for $1600 net you about $200 profit.
You ain't getting rich, but $200 is $200 for not doing a whole lot.
Just make sure you send CC company there money first..
I'm yet another person that received the coin outside the capsule! WTH?!?! I have had some bad deliveries from the Mint in the past, but this was insane. The capsule was closed and in its rightful place. The coin was in a corner of the display box, loose! I haven't had a chance to get a loupe on the coin but the quick, naked eye didn't show anything significant. The display box, just above and to the right of the capsule had some scuff marks on it....perhaps from the coin. What are these people doing!?!? Just throwing a coin in the box?
Also, I'm pretty unhappy with the Mint's new return policy. In the past, I've returned many proof sets with busted cases. And, on occasion, I had to return a proof set with a bad coin or a fingerprint on it (?!?!). In each case, I could ask for my shipping $ back and they would send me a check. Now, they explicitly dissallow any claim for return shipping. So, they can send poorly protected stuff and I end up taking it in the shorts with the return shipping! About 2 years ago, I had a silver proof set that was just evil...I had to return it 4 times before getting one that wasn't busted!
<< <i>Would PCGS let you know why a coin didn't make a certain Grade? Are there details available or can you pay a slight fee for the honest truth.. >>
You have to pay extra for the graders opinion, which is a one-line computer print-out. Something they should as part of the original cost in my opinion.
Edit - they may have gotten rid of this option. I couldn't find it on the new submission forms. >>
What was the price they used to charge for the graders opinion? It may take an extra few minutes, but it would be nice to see why the coin received the grade, it would help us impaired grader wannabees.
Great....more flippers who know nothing but trying to flip...so they can just complain when things don't go right.......great....I'm sure all the collectors who haven't gotten their stuff yet because others crowded it JUST to flip, appreciate it.
<< <i>Great....more flippers who know nothing but trying to flip...so they can just complain when things don't go right.......great....I'm sure all the collectors who haven't gotten their stuff yet because others crowded it JUST to flip, appreciate it. >>
you're not talking about me.
I've already returned it.
in the post above I was asking what others would have done... while informing them of what a local dealer told me to do :
<< <i> the B&M dealer I took my coin to suggested I flip it.
return it or flip it or keep it
what do the masses say I should have done with it? >>
<< <i>Great....more flippers who know nothing but trying to flip...so they can just complain when things don't go right.......great....I'm sure all the collectors who haven't gotten their stuff yet because others crowded it JUST to flip, appreciate it. >>
you're not talking about me.
I've already returned it.
in the post above I was asking what others would have done... while informing them of what a local dealer told me to do -> flip it. >>
<< <i>I'm yet another person that received the coin outside the capsule! WTH?!?! I have had some bad deliveries from the Mint in the past, but this was insane. The capsule was closed and in its rightful place. The coin was in a corner of the display box, loose! I haven't had a chance to get a loupe on the coin but the quick, naked eye didn't show anything significant. The display box, just above and to the right of the capsule had some scuff marks on it....perhaps from the coin. What are these people doing!?!? Just throwing a coin in the box?
Also, I'm pretty unhappy with the Mint's new return policy. In the past, I've returned many proof sets with busted cases. And, on occasion, I had to return a proof set with a bad coin or a fingerprint on it (?!?!). In each case, I could ask for my shipping $ back and they would send me a check. Now, they explicitly dissallow any claim for return shipping. So, they can send poorly protected stuff and I end up taking it in the shorts with the return shipping! About 2 years ago, I had a silver proof set that was just evil...I had to return it 4 times before getting one that wasn't busted!
Grrrrrrrrrrrr. >>
can you post that story here, as a comment? {scroll down to the comment section.}
<< <i>I'm yet another person that received the coin outside the capsule! WTH?!?! I have had some bad deliveries from the Mint in the past, but this was insane. The capsule was closed and in its rightful place. The coin was in a corner of the display box, loose! I haven't had a chance to get a loupe on the coin but the quick, naked eye didn't show anything significant. The display box, just above and to the right of the capsule had some scuff marks on it....perhaps from the coin. What are these people doing!?!? Just throwing a coin in the box?
Also, I'm pretty unhappy with the Mint's new return policy. In the past, I've returned many proof sets with busted cases. And, on occasion, I had to return a proof set with a bad coin or a fingerprint on it (?!?!). In each case, I could ask for my shipping $ back and they would send me a check. Now, they explicitly dissallow any claim for return shipping. So, they can send poorly protected stuff and I end up taking it in the shorts with the return shipping! About 2 years ago, I had a silver proof set that was just evil...I had to return it 4 times before getting one that wasn't busted!
Grrrrrrrrrrrr. >>
You're a casualty of the flippers, wanna-be dealers, and the MS/PR 70 crowd. The ones who played the game and bought 10s and 100s of items, looked for the best (or to see if precious metals went up instead of down within 30 days), and then returned all or most of the items.
If I were the mint, I wouldn't like that either. I don't like some of the changes they have done, but you can thank some of the folks on these boards for it, I bet.
For me, with the UHR, I must have gotten lucky. Coin was well packaged and in the right spot. No concerns. Looks nice too. Sorry to those that got coins that didn't.....maybe if some of the flippers didn't try to bust the system, things may have gotten through quicker and less problems for those that wanted to keep the coin
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<< <i>You know, I'm torn about whether or not to send mine back. The fields and details on mine are all superb - it's the rim above States of America that has the flaws. They don't really distract, but clearly it isn't perfect. It does have some die polish, but only visible when tilted the right way. Overall, though, the coin is beautiful. No, it wouldn't likely merit a 70, but I'm sure it would score a 69. I think I'll keep it as is. I'm just afraid that the replacement wouldn't be any better, or heaven forbid, I would get Ms M's greasy slug! >>
I'd take a 69. I've got many ASE, AGE, APE, buffalo, on and on that are 69's...
personally, I don't care at all.
I found the marks on mine too distracting.
I'm surprised to see and hear of so many with marks on them.
Because you guys missed 3400.
BTW, it appears that P.O. Box shipments do not have dates on the box and UPS shipments have dates on the box.
<< <i>first strike for $25,000 BIN PCGS >>
$5,000 to $7,000 max right now for coin.
<< <i>first strike for $25,000 BIN PCGS EBAY >>
you mean this one?
or this one?
this?
not this?
<< <i>290301075365 this one. help link please >>
You mean this one.
Wounder if their sofa comes with it?
Brian
Ok, I've heard it all now. Unfortunately, what I heard just doesn't smell right. During a conversation with a Mint Rep earlier today, I was told that my order had a 'Pick #' at one time which was subsequently voided.
My 'Pick #' was VOIDED!! I am very concerned that what this means is that they have no more UHRs to ship until the Mint starts another batch.
Furthermore, since they did not ship FIFO, many people that should have gotten their UHRs because they were 'first in line' will have involuntarily forfeited their UHR to those in the 'back of the line'.
This is what I have been worried about all week. Have they really run out of stock? What say the Forum??
call them with the newer order numbers
<< <i>as said before:
call them with the newer order numbers >>
i actually faxed them real orders showing they were shipping out of order. their only comment was that they would forward my complaint and the faxed copies of the orders to their boss (i think his name is "the black hole").
<< <i>>>>>>>>>>>> Any opinions on this earlier post?!? <<<<<<<<<<
Ok, I've heard it all now. Unfortunately, what I heard just doesn't smell right. During a conversation with a Mint Rep earlier today, I was told that my order had a 'Pick #' at one time which was subsequently voided.
My 'Pick #' was VOIDED!! I am very concerned that what this means is that they have no more UHRs to ship until the Mint starts another batch.
Furthermore, since they did not ship FIFO, many people that should have gotten their UHRs because they were 'first in line' will have involuntarily forfeited their UHR to those in the 'back of the line'.
This is what I have been worried about all week. Have they really run out of stock? What say the Forum?? >>
Yeah - MOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnneyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!! For the rest of us.
<< <i>I think we are screwed. The one I did receive I got the grade from PCGS today it is a 69. Curious what a first strike 69 will go for? >>
ya think?
In life, every now and then you are a windshield. With the mint, you are always the bug.
Yeah - MOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnneyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!! For the rest of us. >>
Ouch! Dude! Ur kickin me while i'm down!
<< <i>I think we are screwed. The one I did receive I got the grade from PCGS today it is a 69. Curious what a first strike 69 will go for? >>
did you post a picture?
if you checked, what were the flaws you noticed?
I'm surprised we went 3 for 3 on the first ones.
they can't be out, they just got +1 today.
<< <i>as said before:
they can't be out, they just got +1 today. >>
who got a Mint email today??
LMAO
Oh right they got yours back today!!
By the way, they DO NOT recycle. Yours will go to scrap!
<< <i>I was told by 1 mint rep. that less than 29k were produced initally. They might be out now. I was also told that mine was in the warehouse and would ship on 3/6 or 3/9. Who knows what to believe anymore. >>
what's the first 5 digits of your order number and date of order?
<< <i>They are gonna start charging rent on this thread....Cheaper I think to get a room,,,,
I heard if I let the thread die, then ... I Die!
<< <i>
<< <i>I was told by 1 mint rep. that less than 29k were produced initally. They might be out now. I was also told that mine was in the warehouse and would ship on 3/6 or 3/9. Who knows what to believe anymore. >>
what's the first 5 digits of your order number and date of order? >>
30836XXX I have not received, ordered first day. 30884XXX I receieved 8 days ago. i ordered it the day after release day. go figure
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>I was told by 1 mint rep. that less than 29k were produced initally. They might be out now. I was also told that mine was in the warehouse and would ship on 3/6 or 3/9. Who knows what to believe anymore. >>
what's the first 5 digits of your order number and date of order? >>
30836XXX I have not received, ordered first day. 30884XXX I receieved 8 days ago. i ordered it the day after release day. go figure >>
give them the 30884xxx number and tell them that's a friend and they got it 8 days ago and you should have gotten yours shipped already.
ask them to move you up.
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>I was told by 1 mint rep. that less than 29k were produced initally. They might be out now. I was also told that mine was in the warehouse and would ship on 3/6 or 3/9. Who knows what to believe anymore. >>
what's the first 5 digits of your order number and date of order? >>
30836XXX I have not received, ordered first day. 30884XXX I receieved 8 days ago. i ordered it the day after release day. go figure >>
What ever happened to the early bird gettin the worm?
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>I was told by 1 mint rep. that less than 29k were produced initally. They might be out now. I was also told that mine was in the warehouse and would ship on 3/6 or 3/9. Who knows what to believe anymore. >>
what's the first 5 digits of your order number and date of order? >>
30836XXX I have not received, ordered first day. 30884XXX I receieved 8 days ago. i ordered it the day after release day. go figure >>
give them the 30884xxx number and tell them that's a friend and they got it 8 days ago and you should have gotten yours shipped already.
ask them to move you up. >>
I have gone over all this with them. They pretty much know something went wrong. Either they don't know what or they are not willing to say what the screw-up is.
<< <i>imron, do you want to know how many of these, via a picture, I am sending in for a co-worker that had his entire family order these a few days after they were released? It's enough to make you sick. >>
me me me
post a picture!
<< <i>I have gone over all this with them. They pretty much know something went wrong. Either they don't know what or they are not willing to say what the screw-up is. >>
try to get them to fess up.
no one blamed them for the book, the negativity was all the cover-up.
try to nice it out of them without suggesting anything they may just agree with automatically with a "yes, that's it."
<< <i>imron, do you want to know how many of these, via a picture, I am sending in for a co-worker that had his entire family order these a few days after they were released? It's enough to make you sick. >>
I'm already sick, but if u want to kill me, fire away!!
<< <i>imron, do you want to know how many of these, via a picture, I am sending in for a co-worker that had his entire family order these a few days after they were released? It's enough to make you sick. >>
Did they know about all this on their own, or were you trumping up the flipping opportunities to them and they went and did this?
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
I was swept away on a wave of UHR excitement.
Despite my initial opposition to the first strike "nonsense", I just shipped out my coin for a first strike holder.
I spent about $100 in fees. Who knows if any of this will be worth the expense, but it's a chance I decided to take.
I'm having fun, I think.
>>>>>>>>>> THIS THREAD IS DEAD. PLEASE CONTACT JESSEWVU TO REQUEST A PROPER BURIAL. <<<<<<<<<<
>>>>>>>>>> ALL POSTINGS SUBSEQUENT TO THIS POSTING ARE STRICTLY PROHIBITED. <<<<<<<<<<
>>>>>>>>>> YOU WILL INCUR THE CURSE OF THE UHR FOR FAILURE TO HEED THIS WARNING !!! <<<<<<<<<<
<< <i>
<< <i>imron, do you want to know how many of these, via a picture, I am sending in for a co-worker that had his entire family order these a few days after they were released? It's enough to make you sick. >>
Did they know about all this on their own, or were you trumping up the flipping opportunities to them and they went and did this? >>
I purchased one coin. I told a co-worker, who has purchased a few items in the past for flipping, about the coin but I did not trump them up at all. I told him about the 20th Ann Silver coins, the first First Spouse coins, and the 08 rev 07 coins and he did ok on those. I actually told him I was only buying one and didn't really think there would be much $$ to be made because of the unlimited mintage and whatnot. He went out on his own and bout a few of them. I guess if he gets the FS on them, he made a good decision. I would say that he wouldn't have known to purchase them if I hadn't told him. So, he is probably going to be a flipper here...
I will not get anything for the coins he purchased, I don't even know what he is going to do with them yet. After he got them, I mentioned he should get them graded and he is going to listen to me, I just have to submit them for him.
Item number: 230328279866Link
Winning bid: US $1,575.00
What do ebay and paypal fees cost?
edited to add: 2337 page views
<< <i>This just ended on ebay
Item number: 230328279866Link
Winning bid: US $1,575.00
What do ebay and paypal fees cost?
edited to add: 2337 page views >>
I netted more selling to a dealer, eBay/Paypal fees are absurd now.
<< <i>This just ended on ebay
Item number: 230328279866Link
Winning bid: US $1,575.00
What do ebay and paypal fees cost?
edited to add: 2337 page views >>
Listing fee about $4
Plus Final value fee of Equal to or Over $1000.01 8.75% of the initial $25.00 ($2.19), plus 3.50% of the initial $25.01 - $1,000.00 ($34.12), plus 1.50% of the remaining closing value balance($1000.01 - closing value)
Plus Paypal 2.9%
So the total on $1575.00= about 95.00
<< <i>
<< <i>This just ended on ebay
Item number: 230328279866Link
Winning bid: US $1,575.00
What do ebay and paypal fees cost?
edited to add: 2337 page views >>
Listing fee about $4
Plus Final value fee of Equal to or Over $1000.01 8.75% of the initial $25.00 ($2.19), plus 3.50% of the initial $25.01 - $1,000.00 ($34.12), plus 1.50% of the remaining closing value balance($1000.01 - closing value)
Plus Paypal 2.9%
So the total on $1575.00= about 95.00 >>
Yep, add paypal fees.
I figured a while ago that with an initial purchase price of $1189 and selling for $1600 net you about $200 profit.
You ain't getting rich, but $200 is $200 for not doing a whole lot.
Just make sure you send CC company there money first..
that's running about $25 (?)
and the seller doesn't explicitly state the book will come later. so, maybe it won't.
the B&M dealer I took my coin to suggested I flip it.
return it
or
flip it
or
keep it
what do the masses say I should have done with it?
Also, I'm pretty unhappy with the Mint's new return policy. In the past, I've returned many proof sets with busted cases. And, on occasion, I had to return a proof set with a bad coin or a fingerprint on it (?!?!). In each case, I could ask for my shipping $ back and they would send me a check. Now, they explicitly dissallow any claim for return shipping. So, they can send poorly protected stuff and I end up taking it in the shorts with the return shipping! About 2 years ago, I had a silver proof set that was just evil...I had to return it 4 times before getting one that wasn't busted!
Grrrrrrrrrrrr.
<< <i>
<< <i>Would PCGS let you know why a coin didn't make a certain Grade? Are there details available or can you pay a slight fee for the honest truth.. >>
You have to pay extra for the graders opinion, which is a one-line computer print-out. Something they should as part of the original cost in my opinion.
Edit - they may have gotten rid of this option. I couldn't find it on the new submission forms. >>
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>Great....more flippers who know nothing but trying to flip...so they can just complain when things don't go right.......great....I'm sure all the collectors who haven't gotten their stuff yet because others crowded it JUST to flip, appreciate it. >>
you're not talking about me.
I've already returned it.
in the post above I was asking what others would have done...
while informing them of what a local dealer told me to do :
<< <i>
the B&M dealer I took my coin to suggested I flip it.
return it
or
flip it
or
keep it
what do the masses say I should have done with it?
>>
<< <i>
<< <i>Great....more flippers who know nothing but trying to flip...so they can just complain when things don't go right.......great....I'm sure all the collectors who haven't gotten their stuff yet because others crowded it JUST to flip, appreciate it. >>
you're not talking about me.
I've already returned it.
in the post above I was asking what others would have done...
while informing them of what a local dealer told me to do -> flip it. >>
Nope, not talking about you.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>I'm yet another person that received the coin outside the capsule! WTH?!?! I have had some bad deliveries from the Mint in the past, but this was insane. The capsule was closed and in its rightful place. The coin was in a corner of the display box, loose! I haven't had a chance to get a loupe on the coin but the quick, naked eye didn't show anything significant. The display box, just above and to the right of the capsule had some scuff marks on it....perhaps from the coin. What are these people doing!?!? Just throwing a coin in the box?
Also, I'm pretty unhappy with the Mint's new return policy. In the past, I've returned many proof sets with busted cases. And, on occasion, I had to return a proof set with a bad coin or a fingerprint on it (?!?!). In each case, I could ask for my shipping $ back and they would send me a check. Now, they explicitly dissallow any claim for return shipping. So, they can send poorly protected stuff and I end up taking it in the shorts with the return shipping! About 2 years ago, I had a silver proof set that was just evil...I had to return it 4 times before getting one that wasn't busted!
Grrrrrrrrrrrr. >>
can you post that story here, as a comment?
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<< <i>I'm yet another person that received the coin outside the capsule! WTH?!?! I have had some bad deliveries from the Mint in the past, but this was insane. The capsule was closed and in its rightful place. The coin was in a corner of the display box, loose! I haven't had a chance to get a loupe on the coin but the quick, naked eye didn't show anything significant. The display box, just above and to the right of the capsule had some scuff marks on it....perhaps from the coin. What are these people doing!?!? Just throwing a coin in the box?
Also, I'm pretty unhappy with the Mint's new return policy. In the past, I've returned many proof sets with busted cases. And, on occasion, I had to return a proof set with a bad coin or a fingerprint on it (?!?!). In each case, I could ask for my shipping $ back and they would send me a check. Now, they explicitly dissallow any claim for return shipping. So, they can send poorly protected stuff and I end up taking it in the shorts with the return shipping! About 2 years ago, I had a silver proof set that was just evil...I had to return it 4 times before getting one that wasn't busted!
Grrrrrrrrrrrr. >>
You're a casualty of the flippers, wanna-be dealers, and the MS/PR 70 crowd. The ones who played the game and bought 10s and 100s of items, looked for the best (or to see if precious metals went up instead of down within 30 days), and then returned all or most of the items.
If I were the mint, I wouldn't like that either. I don't like some of the changes they have done, but you can thank some of the folks on these boards for it, I bet.
For me, with the UHR, I must have gotten lucky. Coin was well packaged and in the right spot. No concerns. Looks nice too. Sorry to those that got coins that didn't.....maybe if some of the flippers didn't try to bust the system, things may have gotten through quicker and less problems for those that wanted to keep the coin
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment