Thanks Bobby. Probably just a pipe dream, but we'll see how it goes.
"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
<< <i>Got this card in yesterday. This card is AWESOME! Out of the holder, you would swear this is a NM/MT Banks RC. Awesome, I love this card as well.
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ummmm wow?
what gives? do tell us what the scan's hiding
Big Fan of: HOF Post War RC, Graded RCs WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
Now you're showing off. That scan of the Banks is outstanding Matt, I would resubmit and hope they bump that bad boy.
Here's my three recent pickups, these are very modest to Matt's pickups but fit nicely into my HOF Collection. I purchased all three from Rich (Digicat)
"EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY IT SAYS IT RIGHT THERE ON THE WALL" - JACKIE MOON
<< <i>Now you're showing off. That scan of the Banks is outstanding Matt, I would resubmit and hope they bump that bad boy.
Here's my three recent pickups, these are very modest to Matt's pickups but fit nicely into my HOF Collection. I purchased all three from Rich (Digicat)
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those are AWESOME! old flips too. have to wonder about bumppage.
Big Fan of: HOF Post War RC, Graded RCs WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
<< <i>Has anyone attempted to extend this list to prewar? >>
I'm sure quite a few of us have, but there's just too much uncertainty about key pre-war HOF rookie cards to really create a definitive set. There's a handful of players (Ted Williams, Rizzuto, Reese, etc.) that have no-doubter key rookies. But the majority do not. You also run into the problem of defining what a "card" is. Would postcards be allowed? And what about oddball issues? Or minor league issues? Joe DiMaggio, for instance, has about 3 or 4 cards that are considered his true rookie by different collectors. To me it's his '36 WWG issue, but others would disagree.
Anyway, it's a great question that will spark great debate. If we ever decide to go down that road, this list will help:
"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
<< <i>Has anyone attempted to extend this list to prewar? >>
I'm sure quite a few of us have, but there's just too much uncertainty about key pre-war HOF rookie cards to really create a definitive set. There's a handful of players (Ted Williams, Rizzuto, Reese, etc.) that have no-doubter key rookies. But the majority do not. You also run into the problem of defining what a "card" is. Would postcards be allowed? And what about oddball issues? Or minor league issues? Joe DiMaggio, for instance, has about 3 or 4 cards that are considered his true rookie by different collectors. To me it's his '36 WWG issue, but others would disagree.
Anyway, it's a great question that will spark great debate. If we ever decide to go down that road, this list will help:
Thanks for the response. I see the obstacles are many in this, but sounds like a fun challenge. Sounds like there is plenty of time to amass this list. And we could position rules around it (i.e. only baseball cards, only major league, etc...)
I might use the link you posted to come up with at least the no brainers. Then start up a thread where we can debate, set the rules, and eventually fill in the gaps?
I may have missed a couple, but I consider these to be on the short list of no-brainers:
1933 Goudey: Arky Vaughan 1934 Goudey: Hank Greenberg 1939 Play Ball: Ted Williams 1941 Play Ball: Pee Wee Reese 1941 Double Play: Phil Rizzuto, Lou Boudreau, Enos Slaughter (he has a '38 Goudey proof card, but I don't think that would apply)
Hand-cut cards are also going to be a hot-button topic. Some people like 'em. Some people hate 'em.
"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
Foxx and Ott both have a slew of cards to consider pre-'33. At the very least Foxx has a '32 US Caramel card that trumps the '33 Goudey.
"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
The Prewar Rookie card site is awesome. However, it does leave it up to the collector to decide what they want to collect.
I started going "off spec" for the PSA set registry when I found that Bond Bread Jackie Robinson. Yeah, his Leaf is more valuable, but his Bond Bread card came first.
Besides, if you wanted PSA to make a registry set, they'd go by what Beckett says, and Beckett says a 1933 Goudey is Babe Ruth's rookie card.
I feel the same way Matt does about the pre-war cards even though I have owned a few (1933 Goudey Arky Vaughan and Paul Waner) I would like to purchase a few pre-war HOF Pirates someday. BTW what is considered Pie Traynors true RC 33 Goudey?
Here's my newest Post-War HOF pickup. Since these cards go hand in hand I'll show my Yount rookie with my new Brett.
"EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY IT SAYS IT RIGHT THERE ON THE WALL" - JACKIE MOON
1922 American Caramel for Pie Traynor. Tough card.
AM
"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
<< <i>George & Robin make a beautiful couple, Bobby, congrats! Where did you find the Yount 8.5 -- I've been looking for one of those for quite a while... >>
Andy, I found the Yount on Ebay a couple of months ago and made the deal off eBay.
"EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY IT SAYS IT RIGHT THERE ON THE WALL" - JACKIE MOON
That Ryan 8 is stellar. Rare to see that centering that fantastic. Congrats!
"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
After gutting my post-war HoFer collection, I ended up meeting my sales targets, and then some. So, I figured I could start knocking off the "retired numbers" part of my Giants collection with the surplus.
It's amazing how affordable these pre-war cards are!
<< <i>After gutting my post-war HoFer collection, I ended up meeting my sales targets, and then some. So, I figured I could start knocking off the "retired numbers" part of my Giants collection with the surplus.
It's amazing how affordable these pre-war cards are!
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Happy I could contribute, lol! Great looking card!
<< <i>Very nice, Going to submit those RAW ones? That Brooks is really pretty, great centering. >>
Not the Williams, it has a small wrinkle that will keep it from a good grade. I might sub the Yaz, the corners will keep it from anything good though. And i am definitely subbing the Killebrew.
What I Collect:
PSA HOF Baseball Postwar Rookies Set Registry- (Currently 80.51% Complete)
PSA Pro Football HOF Rookie Players Set Registry- (Currently 19.80% Complete)
PSA Basketball HOF Players Rookies Set Registry- (Currently 6.02% Complete)
I may send the drysdale in, doubt the bunning as it has a corner crease keeping it from a good grade. Im just trying to get all the post war rookie cards, whether they are graded or not. I am now at the halfway point! A lot of what i have is raw, but not all.
What I Collect:
PSA HOF Baseball Postwar Rookies Set Registry- (Currently 80.51% Complete)
PSA Pro Football HOF Rookie Players Set Registry- (Currently 19.80% Complete)
PSA Basketball HOF Players Rookies Set Registry- (Currently 6.02% Complete)
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and ernie is one of the nicest u will ever meet.
Considering the cost of a few of the 51's and before......thats a hi avg. Should bough Dimitri's collection
1948-76 Topps FB Sets
FB & BB HOF Player sets
1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
My recent addition to my HOF Set. Never thought I would own this one:
bobsbbcards SGC Registry Sets
<< <i>Got this card in yesterday. This card is AWESOME! Out of the holder, you would swear this is a NM/MT Banks RC. Awesome, I love this card as well.
ummmm wow?
what gives? do tell us what the scan's hiding
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
Here's my three recent pickups, these are very modest to Matt's pickups but fit nicely into my HOF Collection. I purchased all three from Rich (Digicat)
<< <i>Now you're showing off. That scan of the Banks is outstanding Matt, I would resubmit and hope they bump that bad boy.
Here's my three recent pickups, these are very modest to Matt's pickups but fit nicely into my HOF Collection. I purchased all three from Rich (Digicat)
those are AWESOME! old flips too. have to wonder about bumppage.
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
<< <i>Has anyone attempted to extend this list to prewar? >>
I'm sure quite a few of us have, but there's just too much uncertainty about key pre-war HOF rookie cards to really create a definitive set. There's a handful of players (Ted Williams, Rizzuto, Reese, etc.) that have no-doubter key rookies. But the majority do not. You also run into the problem of defining what a "card" is. Would postcards be allowed? And what about oddball issues? Or minor league issues? Joe DiMaggio, for instance, has about 3 or 4 cards that are considered his true rookie by different collectors. To me it's his '36 WWG issue, but others would disagree.
Anyway, it's a great question that will spark great debate. If we ever decide to go down that road, this list will help:
HOF Rookies
<< <i>
<< <i>Has anyone attempted to extend this list to prewar? >>
I'm sure quite a few of us have, but there's just too much uncertainty about key pre-war HOF rookie cards to really create a definitive set. There's a handful of players (Ted Williams, Rizzuto, Reese, etc.) that have no-doubter key rookies. But the majority do not. You also run into the problem of defining what a "card" is. Would postcards be allowed? And what about oddball issues? Or minor league issues? Joe DiMaggio, for instance, has about 3 or 4 cards that are considered his true rookie by different collectors. To me it's his '36 WWG issue, but others would disagree.
Anyway, it's a great question that will spark great debate. If we ever decide to go down that road, this list will help:
HOF Rookies >>
Thanks for the response. I see the obstacles are many in this, but sounds like a fun challenge. Sounds like there is plenty of time to amass this list. And we could position rules around it (i.e. only baseball cards, only major league, etc...)
I might use the link you posted to come up with at least the no brainers. Then start up a thread where we can debate, set the rules, and eventually fill in the gaps?
<< <i>Has anyone attempted to extend this list to prewar? >>
im having a hard enough time with the '48 leaf SPs!!! lol
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
1933 Goudey: Arky Vaughan
1934 Goudey: Hank Greenberg
1939 Play Ball: Ted Williams
1941 Play Ball: Pee Wee Reese
1941 Double Play: Phil Rizzuto, Lou Boudreau, Enos Slaughter (he has a '38 Goudey proof card, but I don't think that would apply)
Hand-cut cards are also going to be a hot-button topic. Some people like 'em. Some people hate 'em.
I am pretty ignorant in PreWar, but would probably tackle this assuming depending on what the composition looked like.
I would view it as a way to become more knowledgeable on the subject.
I started going "off spec" for the PSA set registry when I found that Bond Bread Jackie Robinson. Yeah, his Leaf is more valuable, but his Bond Bread card came first.
Besides, if you wanted PSA to make a registry set, they'd go by what Beckett says, and Beckett says a 1933 Goudey is Babe Ruth's rookie card.
WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
<< <i>am pretty ignorant in PreWar, >>
I feel the same way Matt does about the pre-war cards even though I have owned a few (1933 Goudey Arky Vaughan and Paul Waner) I would like to purchase a few pre-war HOF Pirates someday. BTW what is considered Pie Traynors true RC 33 Goudey?
Here's my newest Post-War HOF pickup. Since these cards go hand in hand I'll show my Yount rookie with my new Brett.
1922 American Caramel for Pie Traynor. Tough card.
AM
<< <i>George & Robin make a beautiful couple, Bobby, congrats! Where did you find the Yount 8.5 -- I've been looking for one of those for quite a while... >>
Andy, I found the Yount on Ebay a couple of months ago and made the deal off eBay.
1948-76 Topps FB Sets
FB & BB HOF Player sets
1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
centering is about perfect
1948-76 Topps FB Sets
FB & BB HOF Player sets
1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
<< <i>This will be it until after the National. >>
I've heard that before!!
It's amazing how affordable these pre-war cards are!
WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
<< <i>After gutting my post-war HoFer collection, I ended up meeting my sales targets, and then some. So, I figured I could start knocking off the "retired numbers" part of my Giants collection with the surplus.
It's amazing how affordable these pre-war cards are!
Happy I could contribute, lol! Great looking card!
WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
PSA HOF Baseball Postwar Rookies Set Registry- (Currently 80.51% Complete)
PSA Pro Football HOF Rookie Players Set Registry- (Currently 19.80% Complete)
PSA Basketball HOF Players Rookies Set Registry- (Currently 6.02% Complete)
<< <i>Very nice, Going to submit those RAW ones? That Brooks is really pretty, great centering. >>
Not the Williams, it has a small wrinkle that will keep it from a good grade. I might sub the Yaz, the corners will keep it from anything good though. And i am definitely subbing the Killebrew.
PSA HOF Baseball Postwar Rookies Set Registry- (Currently 80.51% Complete)
PSA Pro Football HOF Rookie Players Set Registry- (Currently 19.80% Complete)
PSA Basketball HOF Players Rookies Set Registry- (Currently 6.02% Complete)
<< <i>Edging closer to 50% thanks to digicat..... >>
Happy to help.
I only have 1 card left (to sell), a 51 Fox PSA 7. Anyone need that one?
WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
PSA HOF Baseball Postwar Rookies Set Registry- (Currently 80.51% Complete)
PSA Pro Football HOF Rookie Players Set Registry- (Currently 19.80% Complete)
PSA Basketball HOF Players Rookies Set Registry- (Currently 6.02% Complete)
<< <i>Picked up these 2 tonight from a board member that lives close by.
NICE! cant wait to see them when they get back from PSA!
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
PSA HOF Baseball Postwar Rookies Set Registry- (Currently 80.51% Complete)
PSA Pro Football HOF Rookie Players Set Registry- (Currently 19.80% Complete)
PSA Basketball HOF Players Rookies Set Registry- (Currently 6.02% Complete)