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Whats the rules you guys have for a so called "rookie" card? Is there a website with the list that you guys are using?
I dont agree with the choices in most cases, but am interested in why and who made these rules that a card issued many years after the players rookie season can be called a "rookie". Is it because the true rookie is too rare??? ie the 1936 V355 Joe DiMaggio (so many collect the 1937 R314-4)
I see some cards pictured that were made nearly 10 years after the player broke into the Majors.... with up to a dozen cards older.
ie. Cochranes rookie is a 1926 card, either the PC back Exhibit or the Spalding/Sport Co. of America cards, yet I see you have a 1934 R320 from 8 years later called his "rookie" ??? There are close to a dozen cards made of Mickey before that R320 was ever printed. Heck, Cochrane retired less than 3 years after that 1934 R320 was made, how in the heck can you ever call it a rookie???
I only went through a few pages on this thread but I dont agree with a single pre1951 rookie card noted..... ie.Berra, Spahn, Jackie Robinson, Kiner, Hodges, Musial, etc that all have multiple bread cards that predate any gum card made by Bowman or Leaf.
<< <i>I only went through a few pages on this thread but I dont agree with a single pre1951 rookie card noted..... ie.Berra, Spahn, Jackie Robinson, Kiner, Hodges, Musial, etc that all have multiple bread cards that predate any gum card made by Bowman or Leaf. >>
You missed my 1957 Bond Bread Jackie Robinson.
PSA will ONLY listen to what Beckett tells them a "rookie card", so if someone's locked into "collecting the registry set," they have to play by PSA's rules.
I love the Old Cardboard RC listing, but even then, it's just a guide. The collector needs to decide what a "card" is to them, and whether that definition includes exhibits, team issued photographs, newspaper cutouts, magazine pages, or even pins.
Ya that 1947 D305 J.Roby (round corner) is looking tougher by the day.... They are drying up, same with the Old Gold cards too. I should keep my mouth shut
I was thinking it might be Beckett, haha they have no business in writing about PreWar cards, their info is incorrect and misleading.
I remember a few years ago one of those modern price guides (I believe it was Beckett), that called almost every 1933 R319 card the players "rookie" card.... Like the 4 Babe Ruths and 2 Gehrigs found in the set.
PreWar collectors had a good laugh on that book, but I still see some eBay listing call R319s rookies.
So I guess Dr. Beckett thinks this card below isnt a baseball card?... while Jefferson Burdick who wrote the American Card Catalog (ACC) back in the late 1930's and gave it the name "W517" though it was a baseball card. If its not recognized as a baseball card, then why would PSA grade a W517 or any other early card not said to be a "Beckett Rookie"
1931 W517
IMO there are "True Rookie cards" and then there are "Beckett Rookie cards" and they are seldom the same.
fkw - the main problem with that list is that many collectors don't consider minor league cards to ever be rookie cards. Some also broaden that exclusion to foreign cards.
It's not a major part of the list, but there's also the "what is a card" question - see Walter O'Malley for the most prominent example.
Let's invigorate this thread again. Just picked up the Post War HOFers set again. Going to do this a little different on my second go around. I will be including AUTO'd RC's from many of the HOFers. Currently I have: Schmidt, Frank Robinson, Perry, Perez, Marichal, Ozzie Smith done in EX-NM/MT condition. I will be adding Yount, Carew, Molitor, Bench, Reggie Jackson and Brooks Robinson at the National. When I get back from the National, those will all make the trip to Newport Beach for some slab work then added to my set. Hopefully some of the guys guys building this set will check in and show off their additions.
Recent Addition to my Post War HOFers set. I am waiting on a really nice Yount Auto'd to pop at PSA, but when this became available, I had to add it to my collection. This is really a high end PSA 9. I am not sure why its not a 10 to be honest.
<< <i>Recent Addition to my Post War HOFers set. I am waiting on a really nice Yount Auto'd to pop at PSA, but when this became available, I had to add it to my collection. This is really a high end PSA 9. I am not sure why its not a 10 to be honest.
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that is a CLEAN Nine for sure!
Big Fan of: HOF Post War RC, Graded RCs WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
Recent addition on the Post War HOF set. This was a tough card to part with the first time I sold this set off. Glad to have a Schmidt RC back in my collection. As an aside, I have recently gone into my registry set and added addtional scans of many of the Post WAR HOFer's that I have, that are autographed. Let me know if you like the format, and the idea of adding the Auto'd Rookies to this set as well.
<< <i>Recent addition on the Post War HOF set. This was a tough card to part with the first time I sold this set off. Glad to have a Schmidt RC back in my collection. As an aside, I have recently gone in added addtional scans of many of the Post WAR HOFer's that I have, that are autographed. Let me know if you like the format, and the idea of adding the Auto'd Rookies to this set as well.
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that Schmidt is CLEAN!!!
Big Fan of: HOF Post War RC, Graded RCs WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
Nice Palmer. I've actually been thinking about downgrading from my 9 to an 8.5.
"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
I'm with ya Rich. Minoso getting so close was a big surprise. I don't think he'll get in next time (and God I hope Kaat somehow doesn't either!), which means he's at least 6 years away from possible induction with this committee only voting every 3 years. I have no problem with Hodges and Oliva eventually getting the nod.
"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
Minoso...I thought that when they went thru the negroe leagues extensively and serously looked at 12 candidates that Minnie was done and over with.
Oliva should be in. Period. 3 batting titles, a 2nd and 3 3rd's with an avg of .304 Not many hits or RBI's but decent power and extra base hits. 8X all star.
I was really surprised Hodges didn't go in also.
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It works on a practice site.
thanks,
bill h.
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Beautiful Aaron RC, by the way...
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WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
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Finally, here is the Cochrane
Sorry for the learning curve, fellows.
bill h.
I dont agree with the choices in most cases, but am interested in why and who made these rules that a card issued many years after the players rookie season can be called a "rookie". Is it because the true rookie is too rare??? ie the 1936 V355 Joe DiMaggio (so many collect the 1937 R314-4)
I see some cards pictured that were made nearly 10 years after the player broke into the Majors.... with up to a dozen cards older.
ie. Cochranes rookie is a 1926 card, either the PC back Exhibit or the Spalding/Sport Co. of America cards, yet I see you have a 1934 R320 from 8 years later called his "rookie" ??? There are close to a dozen cards made of Mickey before that R320 was ever printed. Heck, Cochrane retired less than 3 years after that 1934 R320 was made, how in the heck can you ever call it a rookie???
Here is the best list Ive seen
OLD CARDBOARD Hall of Fame Rookie cards
Are there any other lists?? very curious.
I only went through a few pages on this thread but I dont agree with a single pre1951 rookie card noted..... ie.Berra, Spahn, Jackie Robinson, Kiner, Hodges, Musial, etc that all have multiple bread cards that predate any gum card made by Bowman or Leaf.
<< <i>I only went through a few pages on this thread but I dont agree with a single pre1951 rookie card noted..... ie.Berra, Spahn, Jackie Robinson, Kiner, Hodges, Musial, etc that all have multiple bread cards that predate any gum card made by Bowman or Leaf. >>
You missed my 1957 Bond Bread Jackie Robinson.
PSA will ONLY listen to what Beckett tells them a "rookie card", so if someone's locked into "collecting the registry set," they have to play by PSA's rules.
I love the Old Cardboard RC listing, but even then, it's just a guide. The collector needs to decide what a "card" is to them, and whether that definition includes exhibits, team issued photographs, newspaper cutouts, magazine pages, or even pins.
WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
I was thinking it might be Beckett, haha they have no business in writing about PreWar cards, their info is incorrect and misleading.
I remember a few years ago one of those modern price guides (I believe it was Beckett), that called almost every 1933 R319 card the players "rookie" card.... Like the 4 Babe Ruths and 2 Gehrigs found in the set.
PreWar collectors had a good laugh on that book, but I still see some eBay listing call R319s rookies.
So I guess Dr. Beckett thinks this card below isnt a baseball card?... while Jefferson Burdick who wrote the American Card Catalog (ACC) back in the late 1930's and gave it the name "W517" though it was a baseball card.
If its not recognized as a baseball card, then why would PSA grade a W517 or any other early card not said to be a "Beckett Rookie"
1931 W517
IMO there are "True Rookie cards" and then there are "Beckett Rookie cards" and they are seldom the same.
It's not a major part of the list, but there's also the "what is a card" question - see Walter O'Malley for the most prominent example.
Nick
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WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
Here is the latest addition to my Post War Set.
Great stuff!
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Congratulations on the Jackson and Seaver rookies! Those two cards are absolutely amazing.
Currently collecting 1934 Butterfinger, 1969 Nabisco, 1991 Topps Desert Shield (in PSA 9 or 10), and 1990 Donruss Learning Series (in PSA 10).
<< <i>Recent Addition to my Post War HOFers set. I am waiting on a really nice Yount Auto'd to pop at PSA, but when this became available, I had to add it to my collection. This is really a high end PSA 9. I am not sure why its not a 10 to be honest.
that is a CLEAN Nine for sure!
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
<< <i>Recent addition on the Post War HOF set. This was a tough card to part with the first time I sold this set off. Glad to have a Schmidt RC back in my collection. As an aside, I have recently gone in added addtional scans of many of the Post WAR HOFer's that I have, that are autographed. Let me know if you like the format, and the idea of adding the Auto'd Rookies to this set as well.
that Schmidt is CLEAN!!!
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
It pre-dates the mainstream issues like 1948 Bowman and 1949 Leaf.
WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
My HoFer set has taken a back seat to my SF Giants rookie card pursuit this year. However, I can add to my HoFer set w/o buying anything.
So, with 12 votes needed for induction, Kaat got 10, Hodges got 9, and Minnie Minoso got 9.
Kaat and Hodges have been kicked around on the Veterans ballot for years, but I didn't realize Minoso was on anyone's radar.
WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
Minoso...I thought that when they went thru the negroe leagues extensively and serously looked at 12 candidates
that Minnie was done and over with.
Oliva should be in. Period. 3 batting titles, a 2nd and 3 3rd's with an avg of .304
Not many hits or RBI's but decent power and extra base hits. 8X all star.
I was really surprised Hodges didn't go in also.
1948-76 Topps FB Sets
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i was lucky enough to land this tonight ...
Very happy to land a nicely centered one (for a lot less then i thought it would cost me
this brings my "need list" for my Post WWII HOF RC Set down to 10
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
So, are you going to let me stay in the Top 20?
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
nice cards
stop showing us off...or ya will have to change ur name to fogel.
1948-76 Topps FB Sets
FB & BB HOF Player sets
1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
<< <i>So, are you going to let me stay in the Top 20? >>
No chance in my getting into the top 20. I am only going to buy the big boys.
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
The Post-War HOF RC Set is SO addictive! LOL
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
very nice yount.
Some sweet cards posted here.
1948-76 Topps FB Sets
FB & BB HOF Player sets
1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
<< <i>Recent Addition to my HOF RC Collection.
thats simply an AMAZING card! Thank You for sharing with us
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