In an off topic subject in regards to the previous responses, may I ask anyone here, how desirable is the 2008-W $10 burnished platinum coin? I'm purchasing one for around $375 including shipping and was wondering if that is in line with what they are going for. Thanks everyone. Tony.
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<< <i>In an off topic subject in regards to the previous responses, may I ask anyone here, how desirable is the 2008-W $10 burnished platinum coin? I'm purchasing one for around $375 including shipping and was wondering if that is in line with what they are going for. Thanks everyone. Tony. >>
Sounds like that price is in the ballpark. The supply of 2008-W burnished plats on eBay has really dried up, so it's hard to get a handle on the going price.
In an off topic subject in regards to the previous responses, may I ask anyone here, how desirable is the 2008-W $10 burnished platinum coin? I'm purchasing one for around $375 including shipping and was wondering if that is in line with what they are going for. Thanks everyone. Tony.
I don't have a feel for whether or not the supply has dried up, but the price would definitely depend on the grade. Ebay prices have been all over the map. Has it been slabbed and if so, who graded it and what was the grade? If it's MS-70 from either PCGS or NGC then your price seems fair. If it's a lower grade or an ungraded coin, then it looks like the price ought to be more like $300 or less.
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<< <i>In an off topic subject in regards to the previous responses, may I ask anyone here, how desirable is the 2008-W $10 burnished platinum coin? I'm purchasing one for around $375 including shipping and was wondering if that is in line with what they are going for. Thanks everyone. Tony. >>
I dont know exactly where the market is but a 3,706 mintage type coin for $375 bucks struck on $180 worth of platinum can not be a big risk one way or the other if you take a long term view.
<< <i>In an off topic subject in regards to the previous responses, may I ask anyone here, how desirable is the 2008-W $10 burnished platinum coin? I'm purchasing one for around $375 including shipping and was wondering if that is in line with what they are going for. Thanks everyone. Tony. >>
The ones i have seen on the bay have been around 500+ for NGC MS70s BIN, raws for 400+ BIN, PCGS MS70s way more. here is one going soon link
Unless the one you are looking at has real problems, $375 sounds nice
Alert: Tuesday will likely be the last opportunity to buy gold spouses, eagles and buffaloes from the Mint before the price jumps 2 or 3 steps on the price grid. That translates to a $50 to $75 jump for the spouses, and a $100 to $150 jump for the one-ounce gold eagles and buffaloes.
<< <i>Alert: Tuesday will likely be the last opportunity to buy gold spouses, eagles and buffaloes from the Mint before the price jumps 2 or 3 steps on the price grid. That translates to a $50 to $75 jump for the spouses, and a $100 to $150 jump for the one-ounce gold eagles and buffaloes. >>
Tuesday is tooooooooo late. They suspended all sales of gold for repricing.
I just wish they would send me my replacement AGE-UNC that I bought at it's original price.
the USM had problems selling First Spouses 2 years ago at $1250 for the pair....does anyone see the future demand line growing now that the raw price has gone parabolic???
Some are speculating that the 2011 Army and MOH commems might be worth getting. If they get pulled for repricing, it will be awhile before they reappear because the prices must be published in the Federal Register. That combined with sales must end this year means a possibly shortened period of availability.
I don't know which one will be a winner-- MOH has a better design but may end up with slightly higher sales. The Army coin isn't as attractive but will likely fall into more non-numismatic households than the MOH coins will. Some 20-year old getting a gold Army coin from his grandfather will likely put the coin in his sock drawer or safety deposit box and leave it there for decades.
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<< <i>I don't know which one will be a winner-- MOH has a better design but may end up with slightly higher sales. The Army coin isn't as attractive but will likely fall into more non-numismatic households than the MOH coins will. Some 20-year old getting a gold Army coin from his grandfather will likely put the coin in his sock drawer or safety deposit box and leave it there for decades. >>
The price jump on Wednesday will likely propel the First Spouses over $1000. That's gotta put a damper on sales for Eliza Johnson and Julia Grant, doncha think?
<< <i>The price jump on Wednesday will likely propel the First Spouses over $1000. That's gotta put a damper on sales for Eliza Johnson and Julia Grant, doncha think? >>
Homely and expensive. Sure winners.
Gold and silver are valuable but wisdom is priceless.
<< <i>Just went to take a look at the Army and MOH gold. They are gone - pulled for re-pricing. What time did that happen??? >>
I'd read that those coins (commems)are not subject to the repricing grid.
The US Mint's flexible pricing policy, which allows for weekly changes when the average price of gold crosses $50 increments does not apply to commemorative coins. This info taken from an article at mintnewsblog.
<< <i>Woops. They are back up. They must have pulled them by mistake. Back at the old price. >>
So, correct me if I am wrong but 4 of the Army or MOH gold coins contain one troy oz of gold even though they are 22 karat. >>
That't what I'm trying to figure out. I don't see the specification for the coins on the Mint site.
I just ordered two of each (Army and MOH) uncs. I think that we'll se a LOT more sales of these in the next few weeks.
By way of reference: Jackie Unc. 5174, CVS Unc. 6761
Last NN sales for Army Unc. 6137, MOH Unc. 6112
How long do you all think that these will remain on sale? >>
I wouldn't count on them comming in anywhere near Jackie. Since they are a fundraiser (I think) they will try to sell them out. >>
From the Mint site on the Army coin:
Surcharges from the sale of these coins are authorized to be paid to the Army Historical Foundation to help finance the National Museum of the United States Army.
The MOH coin:
Surcharges from the sale of these coins are authorized to be paid to the Congressional Medal of Honor Foundation to help finance its educational, scholarship and outreach programs.
It's odd that the Buff Proof and the Spouses are pulled for re-pricing but not the MOH and the US Army.
While a bit - but not much considering the coins at hand - off topic, I'm listening to the coverage of the 30 soldiers killed three days ago when their chopper was shot down arriving at Dover today. Many had very young families.
I hope that we can all remember just who these coins honor. While we ponder metals prices, the market and mintages, their families are pondering life without their loved ones. Loved ones who died defending our nation. May G-d bless those who died and those whom they left.
Sorry for the diversion, but it just really gets me listening their young families speaking of them while I'm on this forum discussing the Army and MOH coins....
6100+ for MoH - damn, already too many IMO for much value jump. If it goes 8k, that's a wrap and the issue goes "generic" with regards to and in comparison to previous gold commem issues.
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<< <i>It's odd that the Buff Proof and the Spouses are pulled for re-pricing but not the MOH and the US Army.
While a bit - but not much considering the coins at hand - off topic, I'm listening to the coverage of the 30 soldiers killed three days ago when their chopper was shot down arriving at Dover today. Many had very young families.
I hope that we can all remember just who these coins honor. While we ponder metals prices, the market and mintages, their families are pondering life without their loved ones. Loved ones who died defending our nation. May G-d bless those who died and those whom they left.
Sorry for the diversion, but it just really gets me listening their young families speaking of them while I'm on this forum discussing the Army and MOH coins.... >>
I think the same thing about the Law Enforcement dollars-- though I don't know any killed in the line of duty, I *wish* the reverse shield were larger so it could be engraved. (We coin collectors may cringe, but a law enforcement widow might be very moved by such a momento.)
"I'll split the atom! I am the fifth dimension! I am the eighth wonder of the world!" -Gef the talking mongoose.
<< <i>.2418 oz in each coin, same as classic Half Eagle Coins - that was the original intent and that is what they are. >>
.2418 x 4 = .9672
I calculated 0.967480
Raufus came up with 0.96745
So, using your figure (.9672) and a price of $445 x 4 = approx. $1840 per ounce (troy) of pure gold or about a $100 premium over the current buy price.
<< <i> hope that we can all remember just who these coins honor. While we ponder metals prices, the market and mintages, their families are pondering life without their loved ones. Loved ones who died defending our nation. May G-d bless those who died and those whom they left. >>
A moment of silence please . . . . . .
THANK YOU to those who have given their lives and who put their lives on the line for all of us.
I hope that we can all remember just who these coins honor. While we ponder metals prices, the market and mintages, their families are pondering life without their loved ones. Loved ones who died defending our nation. May G-d bless those who died and those whom they left.
Ditto on that. Great loss. I have been thinking of them since I heard.
Gold and silver are valuable but wisdom is priceless.
<< <i>.2418 oz in each coin, same as classic Half Eagle Coins - that was the original intent and that is what they are. >>
.2418 x 4 = .9672
I calculated 0.967480
Raufus came up with 0.96745
So, using your figure (.9672) and a price of $445 x 4 = approx. $1840 per ounce (troy) of pure gold or about a $100 premium over the current buy price. >>
Not bad for 4 coins and low cost shipping but may not have much numismatic value later on. Even so, I like the designs although the female figure with a man's hips just doesn't look right.
Gold and silver are valuable but wisdom is priceless.
I suspect it's because sales have been disappointing for the Army & MOH. If they haven't sold many at current prices, what chance will they have after a price increase. I have heard speculation that the Mint may just try to sell what they've already produced, and once they're pulled for re-pricing, they may not return. I did luck out on Sunday when I was able to order an MOH NGC MS70 ER from MCM for just $499. If I hadn't spent so much on the darn pucks I'd have ordered a few more at that price.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary."
<< <i>I suspect it's because sales have been disappointing for the Army & MOH. If they haven't sold many at current prices, what chance will they have after a price increase. I have heard speculation that the Mint may just try to sell what they've already produced, and once they're pulled for re-pricing, they may not return. I did luck out on Sunday when I was able to order an MOH NGC MS70 ER from MCM for just $499. If I hadn't spent so much on the darn pucks I'd have ordered a few more at that price. >>
<< <i>I suspect it's because sales have been disappointing for the Army & MOH. If they haven't sold many at current prices, what chance will they have after a price increase. I have heard speculation that the Mint may just try to sell what they've already produced, and once they're pulled for re-pricing, they may not return. I did luck out on Sunday when I was able to order an MOH NGC MS70 ER from MCM for just $499. If I hadn't spent so much on the darn pucks I'd have ordered a few more at that price. >>
Meant to ask, when did these sell out at MCM? Did they have the Army MS70ERs at the same price?
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<< <i>With the continual increase in gold and silver prices, are we due for another price increase?
Also, what do you think it will take before the commemorative gold coins are increased in price, since they are not on the same price grid? >>
The bullion made the jump as of this morning.
<< <i>In an off topic subject in regards to the previous responses, may I ask anyone here, how desirable is the 2008-W $10 burnished platinum coin? I'm purchasing one for around $375 including shipping and was wondering if that is in line with what they are going for. Thanks everyone. Tony. >>
Sounds like that price is in the ballpark. The supply of 2008-W burnished plats on eBay has really dried up, so it's hard to get a handle on the going price.
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I don't have a feel for whether or not the supply has dried up, but the price would definitely depend on the grade. Ebay prices have been all over the map. Has it been slabbed and if so, who graded it and what was the grade? If it's MS-70 from either PCGS or NGC then your price seems fair. If it's a lower grade or an ungraded coin, then it looks like the price ought to be more like $300 or less.
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<< <i>In an off topic subject in regards to the previous responses, may I ask anyone here, how desirable is the 2008-W $10 burnished platinum coin? I'm purchasing one for around $375 including shipping and was wondering if that is in line with what they are going for. Thanks everyone. Tony. >>
I dont know exactly where the market is but a 3,706 mintage type coin for $375 bucks struck on $180 worth of platinum can not be a big risk one way or the other if you take a long term view.
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<< <i>In an off topic subject in regards to the previous responses, may I ask anyone here, how desirable is the 2008-W $10 burnished platinum coin? I'm purchasing one for around $375 including shipping and was wondering if that is in line with what they are going for. Thanks everyone. Tony. >>
The ones i have seen on the bay have been around 500+ for NGC MS70s BIN, raws for 400+ BIN, PCGS MS70s way more.
here is one going soon
link
Unless the one you are looking at has real problems, $375 sounds nice
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$285 seems like a great buy tho.
here is one that is high.
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and a pcgs that is way high
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<< <i>Alert: Tuesday will likely be the last opportunity to buy gold spouses, eagles and buffaloes from the Mint before the price jumps 2 or 3 steps on the price grid. That translates to a $50 to $75 jump for the spouses, and a $100 to $150 jump for the one-ounce gold eagles and buffaloes. >>
Tuesday is tooooooooo late. They suspended all sales of gold for repricing.
I just wish they would send me my replacement AGE-UNC that I bought at it's original price.
the USM had problems selling First Spouses 2 years ago at $1250 for the pair....does anyone see the future demand line growing now that the raw price has gone parabolic???
wow almost $2100 for 1 oz of ugly gold....
The unc. Army and Medal of Honor gold commems are still available at $444.95, which translates to about $1840 per ounce.
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<< <i>I don't know which one will be a winner-- MOH has a better design but may end up with slightly higher sales. The Army coin isn't as attractive but will likely fall into more non-numismatic households than the MOH coins will. Some 20-year old getting a gold Army coin from his grandfather will likely put the coin in his sock drawer or safety deposit box and leave it there for decades. >>
Or sell it and say, "PARTY!!!!!!"
It had to have been within the last 30 minutes or so.
Correction - they are still up.
I knew it would happen.
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I don't see any of either Unc on MCM's site. Did they have these?
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<< <i>The price jump on Wednesday will likely propel the First Spouses over $1000. That's gotta put a damper on sales for Eliza Johnson and Julia Grant, doncha think? >>
Homely and expensive. Sure winners.
<< <i>Just went to take a look at the Army and MOH gold. They are gone - pulled for re-pricing. What time did that happen??? >>
I'd read that those coins (commems)are not subject to the repricing grid.
The US Mint's flexible pricing policy, which allows for weekly changes when the average price of gold crosses $50 increments does not apply to commemorative coins. This info taken from an article at mintnewsblog.
<< <i>Woops. They are back up. They must have pulled them by mistake. Back at the old price. >>
So, correct me if I am wrong but 4 of the Army or MOH gold coins contain one troy oz of gold even though they are 22 karat.
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<< <i>Woops. They are back up. They must have pulled them by mistake. Back at the old price. >>
So, correct me if I am wrong but 4 of the Army or MOH gold coins contain one troy oz of gold even though they are 22 karat. >>
That't what I'm trying to figure out. I don't see the specification for the coins on the Mint site.
I just ordered two of each (Army and MOH) uncs. I think that we'll se a LOT more sales of these in the next few weeks.
By way of reference: Jackie Unc. 5174, CVS Unc. 6761
Last NN sales for Army Unc. 6137, MOH Unc. 6112
How long do you all think that these will remain on sale?
Edited: coin specs:
Coin Specifications
Face Value: $5
Finish: Proof
Composition: 90% gold, 10% alloy
Standard Weight: 8.359 g
Standard Diameter: 0.850 inches
Edge: Reeded
So, each has 0.27 oz of gold (wt in grams x .9 converted to oz.)
So, they are just a few dollars over melt currently :-) Incredible. Sure beats bullion!!
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<< <i>Woops. They are back up. They must have pulled them by mistake. Back at the old price. >>
So, correct me if I am wrong but 4 of the Army or MOH gold coins contain one troy oz of gold even though they are 22 karat. >>
No, I believe they are about 1/4 oz. One ounce at $444 would be a sellout in about 2 minutes.
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<< <i>Woops. They are back up. They must have pulled them by mistake. Back at the old price. >>
So, correct me if I am wrong but 4 of the Army or MOH gold coins contain one troy oz of gold even though they are 22 karat. >>
That't what I'm trying to figure out. I don't see the specification for the coins on the Mint site.
I just ordered two of each (Army and MOH) uncs. I think that we'll se a LOT more sales of these in the next few weeks.
By way of reference: Jackie Unc. 5174, CVS Unc. 6761
Last NN sales for Army Unc. 6137, MOH Unc. 6112
How long do you all think that these will remain on sale? >>
I wouldn't count on them comming in anywhere near Jackie. Since they are a fundraiser (I think) they will try to sell them out.
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<< <i>Woops. They are back up. They must have pulled them by mistake. Back at the old price. >>
So, correct me if I am wrong but 4 of the Army or MOH gold coins contain one troy oz of gold even though they are 22 karat. >>
That't what I'm trying to figure out. I don't see the specification for the coins on the Mint site.
I just ordered two of each (Army and MOH) uncs. I think that we'll se a LOT more sales of these in the next few weeks.
By way of reference: Jackie Unc. 5174, CVS Unc. 6761
Last NN sales for Army Unc. 6137, MOH Unc. 6112
How long do you all think that these will remain on sale? >>
I wouldn't count on them comming in anywhere near Jackie. Since they are a fundraiser (I think) they will try to sell them out. >>
From the Mint site on the Army coin:
Surcharges from the sale of these coins are authorized to be paid to the Army Historical Foundation to help finance the National Museum of the United States Army.
The MOH coin:
Surcharges from the sale of these coins are authorized to be paid to the Congressional Medal of Honor Foundation to help finance its educational, scholarship and outreach programs.
Gold
DENOMINATION Five Dollars
COMPOSITION 90% gold, 10% alloy
DIAMETER 0.850 inch (±0.003) or 21.59 mm (±0.08)
WEIGHT 8.359 grams nominal
EDGE reeded
MINTAGE LIMIT 100,000 (across all product options)
8.359 x 4 = 33.436 x 90% = 30.092 grams of gold or 0.967480 troy ounces
Correct???????
From the mint site........$5 Gold MOH
Denomination: Five Dollar Coin
Composition: 90% Gold, 10% alloy
Diameter: 0.850 inches (± 0.003) or 21.59. mm (± 0.08)
Weight: 8.359 grams nominal
Edge: Reeded
Mintage Limit: 100,000 (across all options)
oops! I guess everyone had he same thought......
<< <i>Coin Specifications:
Gold
DENOMINATION Five Dollars
COMPOSITION 90% gold, 10% alloy
DIAMETER 0.850 inch (±0.003) or 21.59 mm (±0.08)
WEIGHT 8.359 grams nominal
EDGE reeded
MINTAGE LIMIT 100,000 (across all product options)
8.359 x 4 = 33.436 x 90% = 30.092 grams of gold or 0.967480 troy ounces
Correct??????? >>
1 gram = 0.0352739619 ounces
So, 30.092 grams (which is correct) = 1.06 oz
1 gram = 0.0321507466 troy ounce
So, 30.092 grams = 0.96745 troy
Very stupid question: when we speak of an ounce of gold, it's troy, correct?
I knew it would happen.
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<< <i>Woops. They are back up. They must have pulled them by mistake. Back at the old price. >>
So, correct me if I am wrong but 4 of the Army or MOH gold coins contain one troy oz of gold even though they are 22 karat. >>
That't what I'm trying to figure out. I don't see the specification for the coins on the Mint site.
I just ordered two of each (Army and MOH) uncs. I think that we'll se a LOT more sales of these in the next few weeks.
By way of reference: Jackie Unc. 5174, CVS Unc. 6761
Last NN sales for Army Unc. 6137, MOH Unc. 6112
How long do you all think that these will remain on sale? >>
I wouldn't count on them comming in anywhere near Jackie. Since they are a fundraiser (I think) they will try to sell them out. >>
That is a very good point! Debating whether to cancel my order. It's sooo close to the very high melt, don't know.
While a bit - but not much considering the coins at hand - off topic, I'm listening to the coverage of the 30 soldiers killed three days ago when their chopper was shot down arriving at Dover today. Many had very young families.
I hope that we can all remember just who these coins honor. While we ponder metals prices, the market and mintages, their families are pondering life without their loved ones. Loved ones who died defending our nation. May G-d bless those who died and those whom they left.
Sorry for the diversion, but it just really gets me listening their young families speaking of them while I'm on this forum discussing the Army and MOH coins....
Well, just Love coins, period.
<< <i>It's odd that the Buff Proof and the Spouses are pulled for re-pricing but not the MOH and the US Army.
While a bit - but not much considering the coins at hand - off topic, I'm listening to the coverage of the 30 soldiers killed three days ago when their chopper was shot down arriving at Dover today. Many had very young families.
I hope that we can all remember just who these coins honor. While we ponder metals prices, the market and mintages, their families are pondering life without their loved ones. Loved ones who died defending our nation. May G-d bless those who died and those whom they left.
Sorry for the diversion, but it just really gets me listening their young families speaking of them while I'm on this forum discussing the Army and MOH coins.... >>
I think the same thing about the Law Enforcement dollars-- though I don't know any killed in the line of duty, I *wish* the reverse shield were larger so it could be engraved. (We coin collectors may cringe, but a law enforcement widow might be very moved by such a momento.)
<< <i>.2418 oz in each coin, same as classic Half Eagle Coins - that was the original intent and that is what they are. >>
.2418 x 4 = .9672
I calculated 0.967480
Raufus came up with 0.96745
So, using your figure (.9672) and a price of $445 x 4 = approx. $1840 per ounce (troy) of pure gold or about a $100 premium over the current buy price.
<< <i> hope that we can all remember just who these coins honor. While we ponder metals prices, the market and mintages, their families are pondering life without their loved ones. Loved ones who died defending our nation. May G-d bless those who died and those whom they left. >>
A moment of silence please . . . . . .
THANK YOU to those who have given their lives and who put their lives on the line for all of us.
Ditto on that. Great loss. I have been thinking of them since I heard.
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<< <i>.2418 oz in each coin, same as classic Half Eagle Coins - that was the original intent and that is what they are. >>
.2418 x 4 = .9672
I calculated 0.967480
Raufus came up with 0.96745
So, using your figure (.9672) and a price of $445 x 4 = approx. $1840 per ounce (troy) of pure gold or about a $100 premium over the current buy price. >>
Not bad for 4 coins and low cost shipping but may not have much numismatic value later on. Even so, I like the designs although the female figure with a man's hips just doesn't look right.
I suspect it's because sales have been disappointing for the Army & MOH. If they haven't sold many at current prices, what chance will they have after a price increase. I have heard speculation that the Mint may just try to sell what they've already produced, and once they're pulled for re-pricing, they may not return. I did luck out on Sunday when I was able to order an MOH NGC MS70 ER from MCM for just $499. If I hadn't spent so much on the darn pucks I'd have ordered a few more at that price.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary."
~ Vince Lombardi
<< <i>I suspect it's because sales have been disappointing for the Army & MOH. If they haven't sold many at current prices, what chance will they have after a price increase. I have heard speculation that the Mint may just try to sell what they've already produced, and once they're pulled for re-pricing, they may not return. I did luck out on Sunday when I was able to order an MOH NGC MS70 ER from MCM for just $499. If I hadn't spent so much on the darn pucks I'd have ordered a few more at that price. >>
WOW, those prices from MCM are killer.
They sure have evaporated quickly from MCM!!
Yeah, when I saw what gold was doing Sunday night I figured they'd re-price 'em.
"The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary."
~ Vince Lombardi
<< <i>I suspect it's because sales have been disappointing for the Army & MOH. If they haven't sold many at current prices, what chance will they have after a price increase. I have heard speculation that the Mint may just try to sell what they've already produced, and once they're pulled for re-pricing, they may not return. I did luck out on Sunday when I was able to order an MOH NGC MS70 ER from MCM for just $499. If I hadn't spent so much on the darn pucks I'd have ordered a few more at that price. >>
Meant to ask, when did these sell out at MCM? Did they have the Army MS70ERs at the same price?
Thanks