Well I do have to say that Pavano looked pretty damned good last night. I didn't realize he threw that hard. (Probably because the last time he tried to throw that hard he wound up on the DL). Still, I have a helluva lot of nervous trepidation about saying "The Yankees are going to win it all this year" right now. I still think their starting pitching isn't nearly as good as some think it is. (Then again, I could be a Boston fan and after seeing one performance of Dice-K versus the Royals I could say that Dice-K will be the Cy Young Award winner and will lead Boston to a World Championship this year).
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It was nice to see the kid Wright overcome obvious jitters for his first big league appearance and win. Having Dad in the stands was great to see also .... great win tonight after the bad loss in Oakland. I have a feeling this is just the start of the influx of kid pitchers .... we shall see.
I say give it 2-3 years and that starting pitching staff will be a lot of fun to watch! They should have traded Pavano during the off season...there were a bunch of teams interested in him. Probably too much invested by the Yanks? I feel bad for him but I'd rather feel bad for him on another team.
The kid didnt look too bad on the mound after he got past the shock of the moment early on.
Hopefully he can stick around, improve, and help them out while they need him the most.
The new era of young pitching may have begun tonight. By the time they play their first game in the new stadium it looks like Wang will be the elder statesman of the rotation.
Anyone else think Arod might hit 100 RBI's by the A.S. break ?
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Wright is due to start Sun in Boston, if he can get htru that he can get thru anything (talking about the "deer in the headlights" phase all young hurlers go thru). Of course, w his teammates putting up production like that, he can't be stressin' too bad!
It's the 3rd inning of todays Yankees game...just a couple of thoughts about what I have seen...
1. Jeter-I know this board gets loaded with Jeter is overrated. To those guys who don't watch all the games just dont get it because all they look at are stats. Sure he made an out in his second at bat today...but what happened is just the sort of thing you wont see in stats or very much talked about. Damon on second, Jeter has two strikes....Jeter makes sure that if he hits the ball, its going to right field to advance Damon to set up a sac fly(even though Abreu singled him in). Jeter got the job done...just as he does day in and day out. It truly is a treat to watch this guy play ball. There is no other way to appreciate how he plays unless you WATCH. Doesnt matter if you are a Yanks fan or not to appreciate this.
2. Abreu-man, what a player! Though he was more publicized in Philly, he kind of goes under the radar with Damon, Jeter, ARod, and Giambi. The guy can hit...and not just hit, he can place his hits. Decent in the field with a great arm. Also, ever see a guy like him know how to steal a base? Amazing! Another guy who is a real treat to watch play.
3. Rasner-is this guy underrated? He has potential to be an excellent pitcher ...maybe a 3rd or 4th rotation guy you can count on. Good fastball, decent slider, and one heck of a curve.
I have said it before in other threads, Derek Jeter can flat out play. The guy is a class act to boot, like you just said it is the little things that dont come up in stats sometimes that are overlooked. Anyone including most Sox fans would take him in without question. BUT he does play for you guys so thats enough out of me..
A-Rod has been un-f-ing-believable this year. Since coming to NY, with the game on the line and A-Rod up to bat I'd almost expect there to be a strikeout or a pop-up. Now, A-Rod is the guy I want at the plate with the game on the line. I didn't even get a chance to see it. I've been in meetings all day and at the gym here at work they didn't have the Yankees Game on. I just kept seeing the score in the bottom of the 9th go from 6-2, to 6-4, then 6-4 for a while, then suddenly I looked up and it was 8-6. I just had this feeling that A-Rod had done it again.
Things I do like about this year's Yankees team;
1): Bullpen - They've been very solid with only three blow-ups thus far (Rivera, which I'm still shocked about, Farnsworth, and today Vizcaino). 2): A-Rod - Good God he's pounding the crap out of the ball. Last night, he got a bit miffed over a low Strike call, so in his next at-bat when a pitch came in low he deposited it in the left field stands. 3): Offense - All around they are pretty good with only the first base position the real "auto-out".
Things I haven't liked about this year's Yankees team;
1): Starting pitching - If these guys can't consistently go 6 or 7 innings this great bullpen will be blown out by the middle of July. Everyone seems to be pulling up lame so it makes me wonder if their conditioning is all that it should be. 2): Defense - With the starters as questionable as they are, the defense better be top notch and thus far this year it's far from it. 3): Torre's overuse of the bullpen - I know he really doesn't have much of a choice, but he can't keep getting people up and bringing them in every game. Have one guy pitch a few innings if needed and then not even get him up for a few days. The way he's managing the bullpen now, if a game had to go past 14 innings there would be nobody available to pitch.
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I have to agree with the 1B thing...send Phelps back to the minors and bring in a long reliever.
I think ARod's shorter swing is whats making the difference. He's really putting the fat part of the bat on the ball. We've always known he has a good eye at the plate...plus, he isnt looking like a complete head case...actually much more relaxed. Maybe he found a new shrink!
Starters will come around. Pavano can go pound salt. Anxious to have Wang and Mussina back.
I'm anxious to get Wang back, but Mussina is someone I really am not expecting anything from. I honestly believe that he is done and nothing but a 4th starter at best. The one pitcher that has me kind of "huh?" is Kei Igawa. His stuff is crap, he pitches up in the zone, but each start he has gotten better and better. Cleveland has a pretty good lineup and he made them look kind of childish. It'd be nice if he could keep this up, but each time he pitches I kind of cringe a little bit.
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Mussina is not done .... what on EARTH gives you that idea? Mussina notoriously has bung Aprils ..... also, Igawa's "stuff" is far from crap. I take it you just started watching baseball within the last few years? Igawa's biggest problem is location, he can not spot the ball. It is quite obvious ..... but "crap" stuff? Please, unless you are expecting every Yankee pitcher to have Felix Hernandez type "stuff"
Why in the world did Cleveland pitch to Arod with first base open and the winning run already on 2nd base? With the absolute TEAR that Arod's been on? Terrible decision by Wedge, IMO.
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<< <i>Why in the world did Cleveland pitch to Arod with first base open and the winning run already on 2nd base? With the absolute TEAR that Arod's been on? Terrible decision by Wedge, IMO. >>
Good question which both Michael Kay and Paul O'neill wondered too. Both of them figured that Wedge new that Giambi has been swinging the bat very well recently so .... pick your poison. Wedge must have been thinking that this tear A-Rod is on has to end sometime. A-Rod did have an awful day at the plate until that point while Giambi hit one out and had good at bats ...
<< <i>1. Jeter-I know this board gets loaded with Jeter is overrated. To those guys who don't watch all the games just dont get it because all they look at are stats. Sure he made an out in his second at bat today...but what happened is just the sort of thing you wont see in stats or very much talked about. Damon on second, Jeter has two strikes....Jeter makes sure that if he hits the ball, its going to right field to advance Damon to set up a sac fly(even though Abreu singled him in). Jeter got the job done...just as he does day in and day out. It truly is a treat to watch this guy play ball. There is no other way to appreciate how he plays unless you WATCH. Doesnt matter if you are a Yanks fan or not to appreciate this. >>
Jeter currently leads the entire major leagues in errors, with 6 in just 13 games. His fielding percentage is .908.
<< <i>1. Jeter-I know this board gets loaded with Jeter is overrated. To those guys who don't watch all the games just dont get it because all they look at are stats. Sure he made an out in his second at bat today...but what happened is just the sort of thing you wont see in stats or very much talked about. Damon on second, Jeter has two strikes....Jeter makes sure that if he hits the ball, its going to right field to advance Damon to set up a sac fly(even though Abreu singled him in). Jeter got the job done...just as he does day in and day out. It truly is a treat to watch this guy play ball. There is no other way to appreciate how he plays unless you WATCH. Doesnt matter if you are a Yanks fan or not to appreciate this. >>
Jeter currently leads the entire major leagues in errors, with 6 in just 13 games. His fielding percentage is .908.
I appreciate that very much.
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You are right, Jeter looks like he is going to have a down fielding year. That can get overlooked much easier than a down hitting year, but it can have just as big an impact.
<< <i> You are right, Jeter looks like he is going to have a down fielding year. That can get overlooked much easier than a down hitting year, but it can have just as big an impact. >>
It is what .... April 20th? So if it looks like Jeter will stink up SS all year then one can easily say it looks like A-Rod is going to hit 140 home runs. Neither will happen.
So, the Yanks march into Fenway with unkown starting pitching besides Pettite and face the fearsome threesome of the Sox. I have a feeling the Yanks take two out of three anyway.
<< <i> Jeter currently leads the entire major leagues in errors, with 6 in just 13 games. His fielding percentage is .908.
I appreciate that very much.
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Where that may be true CTSox, I bet you would give your right arm to have Jeter at SS on the Red Sox.
It is early in the season. It is "un-Jeter" like...even you realize that...I don't think anyone is concerned.
The whole point of my post are the things he does day in and day out and what a treat it is to watch a player like him, regardless of what the stats read...including fielding.
<< <i>Mussina is not done .... what on EARTH gives you that idea? Mussina notoriously has bung Aprils ..... also, Igawa's "stuff" is far from crap. I take it you just started watching baseball within the last few years? Igawa's biggest problem is location, he can not spot the ball. It is quite obvious ..... but "crap" stuff? Please, unless you are expecting every Yankee pitcher to have Felix Hernandez type "stuff" >>
What on EARTH gives me that idea? How about the fact that he is now 38 years old and is not the style of pitcher that gets better with age? How about the fact that he has been injury plagued more and more often these past few years? Last year he came out of the gate on fire so the whole "He always has bad Aprils" is a crock. He was going good last year, then suddenly flamed out when it became important at the end of the season. From June onward his ERA started going up and up and up. He started out 13-3 and wound up 15-7. So after a nice start he fizzled and went 2-4 in his last six decisions. I'd rather have a pitcher perform better in September/October than in April and May.
In addition, to use "past history" for a pitcher his age is ludicrous. He is on the downswing of his career, not the upswing. He's not a youngster like Felix Hernandez or Mark Beurhle where you can use the previous few years and say "he'll probably do about the same this year, or perhaps a bit better." For a guy on the decline, you can only say "I pray to god he does just as good this year." In Mussina's past, he succeeded with the use of great command and the ability to throw off the timing of the hitters. Now that his fastball has gone from 90-91 down to 85-86 the separation in speed of his pitches is not nearly as great. His curveball and change-up, while still significantly lower in speed than his fastball, are slow enough that a hitter can adjust quite easily.
Now, with the loss of velocity on his fastball, his location must be perfect otherwise the ball is going to get crushed. The hitters know this and he knows this which is why he is even more finicky and apt to try and hit the corners. The thing is, he doesn't have that same control. Mussina is a 4th starter at best and is on the downside of his career. To expect him to put up great numbers like he did when he was younger is a fantasy.
In regards to Igawa, please tell me what's so "great" about his stuff? He throws a 90 mph fastball that is as straight as an arrow, and the command on his off-speed pitches is questionable at best. He tries to pitch up in the strikezone because that is what he did in Japan, but here in the USA pitching up in the strikezone with pitches that are straight and slow is a recipe for disaster. Igawa was a stop-gap signing for the Yankees. They knew that they didn't have enough pitchers to fill out a rotation so they went and signed Igawa to just eat up innings. YOU CANNOT MAKE A SUCCESSFUL CAREER IN MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL BY PITCHING UP IN THE ZONE WITH MEDIOCRE STUFF!!!!! Igawa has had immense run support from the lineup behind him. Let's see how "good" he looks when it's a tight game and he doesn't have 8 runs of support. Good "stuff" means that if your location isn't on you can still get by and pitch a solid game. If Igawa's location is off, he pitches batting practice. I'd hardly call that "good" stuff. To me, that's "crappy" stuff. Right now, the same can be said about Mussina too.
I've been watching baseball for over 20 years my friend, and unlike many fans of various teams I'm not willing to say "We're the best" when that's far from the truth. The Yankees' starting pitching is pathetic this year, and just as it has been in the previous few years, it will be the reason why they don't win the World Series. Good pitching and good defense wins a championship. Not questionable pitching and pathetic defense. For the Yankees, their only good pitching is the bullpen (which at this rate will be blown out by the end of July), Pettite, Wang, and perhaps one of the many minor-leaguers they are slow to bring up. That's really it.
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you can drone on and on and on and on all you want. Apparantly you will need to watch the game for 100 years before you get a grasp.
1. I NEVER SAID Igawa's stuff was 'GREAT" I said it was not "CRAP" as you called it. Nice try twisting that one The guy struck out just as many guys in Japan as D-Mat over the last 4 or 5 years. His "stuff" is NOT CRAP. Now don't come back saying that I SAID Igawa is as talented as D-Mat ..... because I DIDN'T. D-Mat commands ALL of his pitche, Igawa has command of NONE. THAT is the difference, it has nothing to do with Igawa's "stuff"
2. Mike Mussina has been as consistent as any pitcher has every year the last 15 years. For you to continually spout out that you expect NOTHING from his is testament to how cluless you are. YOU ARE A BRIDGE JUMPER. Didn't we go over this already? Mike Mussina comes out in early April with a sub-par fastball and you take that lock stock and barrel that he is done? Again, more evidence that you are a bridge jumper
3. Where did I or ANYBODY say that we "Expect him to put up GREAT numbers like when he was younger" Jdurg, you CAN'T come here and put words into peoples mouth. You will get slapped around like a rag doll brother. All I have been doing is debating your BRIDGE JUMPING analysis.
4. Jdurg, you are the Yankee fan that hides in the closet, opens the door a crack to watch the game and slams it shut THE SECOND something goes wrong. Then, you make SEASON LONG predictions based on something you saw in one or two games. Bridgejumper, bridge jumper, bridgejumper
5. "The Yankees starting pitching is pathetic this year" DO I NEED MORE EVIDENCE that you are a bridge jumper? I mean, its April 20th for CHRIST SAKE. LOL How can you say that on April 20th? How the hell do you or I know what the rotation will look like in August? Do you see what I am saying? You are making these baseless observations in APRIL. A-P-R-I-L. A - P - R - I - L
Just turns the knife when they let two guys who are slumping worse than ever be the guys to beat them up. Yes, Im talking about Varitek and Crisp.
I was yelling at the TV when Torre put in Rivera in the bottom of the 8th with only one out. What a dumb move for a couple of reasons...1. Rivera hasnt had hardly any work. Just how good can he be when he has thrown only 7 innings so far this season? Does Torre really think he has his best stuff--and for 2 innings? 2. Why put in Rivera vs Varitek? Varitek was ON tonight and has also seen Rivera a whole heck of a lot more than Visciano or Farnsworth...or even Colter Bean for that matter! May as well put the BP coach in there for Varitek! There is just too much experience when it comes to Varitek vs Rivera.
Don't get me wrong, Im not making excuses for the loss...just saying what I didnt like seeing.
BTW...Schilling looked like Mike Mussina out there today. A dead fastball serving up. Has Schillings arm already gone tired?
I watched the game last night and really enjoyed it. I am not a Yankee or Red Sox fan (Mariner is a clue), but I just enjoy the electricity of these games. Just a third party, objective viewpoint since I am not a fan of either team.....I think the Yankees are in trouble if they don't get the pitching straightened out. The set up men look awful and Rivera looks human. The starters are questionable too overall. There is nothing more demoralizing than putting up the runs and still losing because of the bullpen. ARod could hit 80 homers and drive in 200 runs but if the pitching problems don't get addressed, then forget the World Series for them. Just my humble opinion.
Don
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Gee, Karstens got his ASS KICKED SEVERELY by the Red Sox. It that a shock? Hell no. The Yankees' starting pitching is PATHETIC!!!! To think otherwise means you have rose-colored goggles on and can't see the truth. Their starting pitching can NOT get the job done and they will NOT win the division, or make the playoffs, unless that changes. Karstens is a JOKE of a pitcher. He has NEVER done well against legitimate teams. The only time in his CAREER that he has done well is against AAA caliber hitting. At the start of spring training he was great because he faced teams' AAA players. Once the real players stayed in the game more than two innings he got his ass handed to him. Karstens is a joke. He does not belong in the major leagues. He is a career AAA pitcher and can never succeed in the majors. I have no clue why any one says he's "good".
The Yankees this year have a strong flaw in their starting pitching. Torre blows a load any time he can use their bullpen because of how pathetic their starters are. Look at last night's game. Torre screwed that one up badly. He is the reason they lost. Today's game, the Yankees had no shot because their starter was a total joke in regards to talent. Until the Yankees can provide pitchers who start games and can go more than 6 innings before crying like little girls this year's team will have a tough time winning. I am a HUGE Yankees fan and remember the days when Wade Taylor and Scott Kamineicki where the "star" starters with Steve Howe and Lee Smith in the bullpen. Back then, they were on drugs when they though Taylor, Kamineicki and Hitchco$k (I can't spell his real name because apparently that's a naughty word here on the forums) were going to be stars.
Face it. The starter this year are jokes. They are pathetic wastes of players who have no business in the majors. The ONLY reason why the Yankees aren't four games below .500 is due to their offense. Pettitte is their ONLY respectable starter but he can't pitch five days in a row. Take off your goggles and open your eyes. The Yankees have the worst starting staff in the league and it will take a LOT for them to get better.
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Jdurg, you are a JOKE of a Yankee fan. This period is tough for all Yankee fans to take with all of our injuries. None of us know what this rotation will be like in June, July, and August. One thing is for sure, I never jumped off the bridge in April even with the horrible Yankee teams of the late 80's and early 90's. No "fan" does that. What you are is a spoiled brat Yankee fan who needs to have everything perfect in Yankee land to be happy.
If and when the Yankees are playing well I don't want to see you around here waving your pom poms. Bridge Jumper.
Let me step in and say - the Yankees played a tough series, especially with all the injuries they have. Each game was close, and the Sox had to come from behind in all three games. It's going to be a fun season for Sox/Yankees games, you can just feel it!
Still does not mend the pain from the Boston Massacre last year but it will do for now
Honestly guys you were not at full strength by any stretch, it might have played out different had Mussina and Co. been involved. It feels good but you were at a bit of a disadvantage this time around, we will catch each other a few more times this season and go from there....
Hang tough Yankee fans ..... a very competitive series but in the end the Sox put a ROYAL a$$ whoopin on us. Hang tough ..... its April and soooo much can happen!
I do just want to say that in this Yankee thread, there should be NO ROOM for bridge jumping doomsday spoiled rotten Yankee "fans" such as Jdurg to bring us down. Yes we have plenty of questions, yes things seem pretty bad at the moment, and lastly YES it is April. I have ZERO respect ..... and I mean ZERO respect for any Yankee "fan" who comes on here and crys like a baby. I don't care if we were 0-16 at this point. There is NO ROOM for bridge jumping wannabee fans in this thread. The Sox are TOUGH and they will be all year, BUT there is just too much baseball left to whine and cry like a spoiled rotten baby a$$ bi$ch.
Other than Pettite, pitching was a real disappointment. It's a tough time but Wang comes back on Tuesday and Mussina a week after that. Not sure if this matters much but Pavano soon follows in May...supposedly!
I have to say I felt bad for Wright. He was on a national stage at Fenway Park in one of the biggest rivalries in sports. He just wasnt getting ahead on the count and didnt seem to have any pitches really working. It was a real tough spot for him.
Anyway, tomorrow is a new day...Yanks will come back strong and healthy just as Boston decides to lose all control just before All Star break....yup, thats my prediction! Then we'll just have to keep the Blue Jays under control!
Dan, I totally agree with you about fair weather fans. A true fan is there through thick and thin. I still love the M's even though they just lost 6 straight and are looking a whole lot like the team that came in last place for three years running now. One day, the worm will turn.
The Yankees will be there come playoff time, I have no doubt about that. The make or break for them playing in the Series will be the pitching though.
Don
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Hi Softparade, I see you've resulted to personal insults here when you have to face the reality that the Yankees are NOT a real team this year. Their offense is second to none, yet when you score 7-8 runs a game and still lose it is sad and pathetic. The bullpen, which was doing FANTASTIC earlier this year, is now pretty worn out with how often Torre either wants to, or is forced to, use them. (I'm still having trouble understanding why he brought Myers in to face Ortiz on Friday with a four-run lead and Proctor having thrown only 9 pitches).
There is NOTHING I hate more than a fan of a team saying "We're great, we're great" when that is far from the truth. Boston fans do this, Bandwagon Fans do this, and sadly a lot of Yankees fans do this. To say "I'm a joke of a fan" because I'm not willing to put on Rose Colored Glasses and only say great things about the Yankees is a friggen joke. A real fan will criticize his own team when they do things wrong (as the Yankees have done this year) or when they are severely lacking in certain areas.
Rivera blew his only two save chances this year. Did you hear me running around saying "Rivera's done, Rivera's done!"? No. That's because Rivera still has his good stuff but has had some problems with command caused simply by a lack of available work. The starters (Pettitte excluded) have not shown ANY good "stuff" in addition to a lack of command. Hell, the entire staff walked 9 or 10 guys on Sunday in Boston? If the Yankees had ANY starting pitching at all they would have easily won two of three in Boston, or perhaps swept the Red Sox. Hell, they scored 5 runs or more in EVERY GAME AND LOST EACH ONE!
You can give all the excuses you want, but when it comes down to it the game is decided by the talent on the field and the current Yankees have no talent in regards to starting pitching (again, Pettitte excluded because he has been respectable most of the year). I just pray that rushing up Phillip Hughes isn't going to ruin the kid like Chase Wright has probably been permanently ruined. Come October, IF the Yankees reach the playoffs, excuses won't get you into the next round of the playoffs. Pitching and defense will.
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BUZZ OFF. It is April, the Yankees will make plenty of changes and if they work great, if not oh well. Nobody needs a bridge jumping "fan" like yourself crying his eyes out in April. ITS APRIL. Do you think for a second the pitching staff the Yankees have now .... in APRIL ... will look the same in August? If the pitching still sucks this bad in August then it is time to cry like a baby. NOT IN APRIL you JOKE.
As far as the personal insults thing ..... well .... sometimes the truth hurts and the shoe fits. Everything you have barfed out so far point to you indeed being a JOKE. Go cry about your April Yankees somewhere else.
And I NEVER said quote .... "GREAT" things about these Yankees. Stop creating your own words from other people mouths ya JOKE. A real fan does not cry and whine and moan like a spoiled rotten brat this early in the season.
I have no problem with anybody criticizing the Yanks, but I do have a problem with "fans" like Jdurg who talk like all is lost. Bash Torre as he deserves it, bash the pitching as they deserve it, but don't come here and cry like a baby that it is a given that this will continue all season long. Even if it does, it shows incredibly WEAK SUBSTANCE as a fan to believe it in APRIL And we don't need weak knee fair weather guys here griping at what might be 4 to 5 months down the road. We need, as the Yanks do, to worry about THE NEXT GAME and getting the pitching straightened out enough to compete with the Sox.
Yankees still suck and A-Rod is the greatest ever.
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<< <i>I might post a topic " METS fans POST HERE!", just not fair not to have one. I'll check to see if someone already beat me to the punch. >>
Have at it! I don't think any of the boards Met fans have started a thread. the Mets look good in the EARLY going ...
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Congrats to Wright...was a promising start.
The kid didnt look too bad on the mound after he got past the shock of the moment early on.
Hopefully he can stick around, improve, and help them out while they need him the most.
The new era of young pitching may have begun tonight. By the time they play their first game in the new stadium it looks like Wang will be the elder statesman of the rotation.
Anyone else think Arod might hit 100 RBI's by the A.S. break ?
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1. Jeter-I know this board gets loaded with Jeter is overrated. To those guys who don't watch all the games just dont get it because all they look at are stats. Sure he made an out in his second at bat today...but what happened is just the sort of thing you wont see in stats or very much talked about. Damon on second, Jeter has two strikes....Jeter makes sure that if he hits the ball, its going to right field to advance Damon to set up a sac fly(even though Abreu singled him in). Jeter got the job done...just as he does day in and day out. It truly is a treat to watch this guy play ball. There is no other way to appreciate how he plays unless you WATCH. Doesnt matter if you are a Yanks fan or not to appreciate this.
2. Abreu-man, what a player! Though he was more publicized in Philly, he kind of goes under the radar with Damon, Jeter, ARod, and Giambi. The guy can hit...and not just hit, he can place his hits. Decent in the field with a great arm. Also, ever see a guy like him know how to steal a base? Amazing! Another guy who is a real treat to watch play.
3. Rasner-is this guy underrated? He has potential to be an excellent pitcher ...maybe a 3rd or 4th rotation guy you can count on. Good fastball, decent slider, and one heck of a curve.
Arod is being clutch by the way.
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Steve
Things I do like about this year's Yankees team;
1): Bullpen - They've been very solid with only three blow-ups thus far (Rivera, which I'm still shocked about, Farnsworth, and today Vizcaino).
2): A-Rod - Good God he's pounding the crap out of the ball. Last night, he got a bit miffed over a low Strike call, so in his next at-bat when a pitch came in low he deposited it in the left field stands.
3): Offense - All around they are pretty good with only the first base position the real "auto-out".
Things I haven't liked about this year's Yankees team;
1): Starting pitching - If these guys can't consistently go 6 or 7 innings this great bullpen will be blown out by the middle of July. Everyone seems to be pulling up lame so it makes me wonder if their conditioning is all that it should be.
2): Defense - With the starters as questionable as they are, the defense better be top notch and thus far this year it's far from it.
3): Torre's overuse of the bullpen - I know he really doesn't have much of a choice, but he can't keep getting people up and bringing them in every game. Have one guy pitch a few innings if needed and then not even get him up for a few days. The way he's managing the bullpen now, if a game had to go past 14 innings there would be nobody available to pitch.
I think ARod's shorter swing is whats making the difference. He's really putting the fat part of the bat on the ball. We've always known he has a good eye at the plate...plus, he isnt looking like a complete head case...actually much more relaxed. Maybe he found a new shrink!
Starters will come around. Pavano can go pound salt. Anxious to have Wang and Mussina back.
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<< <i>Why in the world did Cleveland pitch to Arod with first base open and the winning run already on 2nd base? With the absolute TEAR that Arod's been on? Terrible decision by Wedge, IMO. >>
Good question which both Michael Kay and Paul O'neill wondered too. Both of them figured that Wedge new that Giambi has been swinging the bat very well recently so .... pick your poison. Wedge must have been thinking that this tear A-Rod is on has to end sometime. A-Rod did have an awful day at the plate until that point while Giambi hit one out and had good at bats ...
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<< <i>1. Jeter-I know this board gets loaded with Jeter is overrated. To those guys who don't watch all the games just dont get it because all they look at are stats. Sure he made an out in his second at bat today...but what happened is just the sort of thing you wont see in stats or very much talked about. Damon on second, Jeter has two strikes....Jeter makes sure that if he hits the ball, its going to right field to advance Damon to set up a sac fly(even though Abreu singled him in). Jeter got the job done...just as he does day in and day out. It truly is a treat to watch this guy play ball. There is no other way to appreciate how he plays unless you WATCH. Doesnt matter if you are a Yanks fan or not to appreciate this. >>
Jeter currently leads the entire major leagues in errors, with 6 in just 13 games. His fielding percentage is .908.
I appreciate that very much.
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<< <i>1. Jeter-I know this board gets loaded with Jeter is overrated. To those guys who don't watch all the games just dont get it because all they look at are stats. Sure he made an out in his second at bat today...but what happened is just the sort of thing you wont see in stats or very much talked about. Damon on second, Jeter has two strikes....Jeter makes sure that if he hits the ball, its going to right field to advance Damon to set up a sac fly(even though Abreu singled him in). Jeter got the job done...just as he does day in and day out. It truly is a treat to watch this guy play ball. There is no other way to appreciate how he plays unless you WATCH. Doesnt matter if you are a Yanks fan or not to appreciate this. >>
Jeter currently leads the entire major leagues in errors, with 6 in just 13 games. His fielding percentage is .908.
I appreciate that very much.
You are right, Jeter looks like he is going to have a down fielding year. That can get overlooked much easier than a down hitting year, but it can have just as big an impact.
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You are right, Jeter looks like he is going to have a down fielding year. That can get overlooked much easier than a down hitting year, but it can have just as big an impact. >>
It is what .... April 20th? So if it looks like Jeter will stink up SS all year then one can easily say it looks like A-Rod is going to hit 140 home runs. Neither will happen.
So, the Yanks march into Fenway with unkown starting pitching besides Pettite and face the fearsome threesome of the Sox. I have a feeling the Yanks take two out of three anyway.
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Jeter currently leads the entire major leagues in errors, with 6 in just 13 games. His fielding percentage is .908.
I appreciate that very much.
Where that may be true CTSox, I bet you would give your right arm to have Jeter at SS on the Red Sox.
It is early in the season. It is "un-Jeter" like...even you realize that...I don't think anyone is concerned.
The whole point of my post are the things he does day in and day out and what a treat it is to watch a player like him, regardless of what the stats read...including fielding.
<< <i>Mussina is not done .... what on EARTH gives you that idea? Mussina notoriously has bung Aprils ..... also, Igawa's "stuff" is far from crap. I take it you just started watching baseball within the last few years? Igawa's biggest problem is location, he can not spot the ball. It is quite obvious ..... but "crap" stuff? Please, unless you are expecting every Yankee pitcher to have Felix Hernandez type "stuff"
What on EARTH gives me that idea? How about the fact that he is now 38 years old and is not the style of pitcher that gets better with age? How about the fact that he has been injury plagued more and more often these past few years? Last year he came out of the gate on fire so the whole "He always has bad Aprils" is a crock. He was going good last year, then suddenly flamed out when it became important at the end of the season. From June onward his ERA started going up and up and up. He started out 13-3 and wound up 15-7. So after a nice start he fizzled and went 2-4 in his last six decisions. I'd rather have a pitcher perform better in September/October than in April and May.
In addition, to use "past history" for a pitcher his age is ludicrous. He is on the downswing of his career, not the upswing. He's not a youngster like Felix Hernandez or Mark Beurhle where you can use the previous few years and say "he'll probably do about the same this year, or perhaps a bit better." For a guy on the decline, you can only say "I pray to god he does just as good this year." In Mussina's past, he succeeded with the use of great command and the ability to throw off the timing of the hitters. Now that his fastball has gone from 90-91 down to 85-86 the separation in speed of his pitches is not nearly as great. His curveball and change-up, while still significantly lower in speed than his fastball, are slow enough that a hitter can adjust quite easily.
Now, with the loss of velocity on his fastball, his location must be perfect otherwise the ball is going to get crushed. The hitters know this and he knows this which is why he is even more finicky and apt to try and hit the corners. The thing is, he doesn't have that same control. Mussina is a 4th starter at best and is on the downside of his career. To expect him to put up great numbers like he did when he was younger is a fantasy.
In regards to Igawa, please tell me what's so "great" about his stuff? He throws a 90 mph fastball that is as straight as an arrow, and the command on his off-speed pitches is questionable at best. He tries to pitch up in the strikezone because that is what he did in Japan, but here in the USA pitching up in the strikezone with pitches that are straight and slow is a recipe for disaster. Igawa was a stop-gap signing for the Yankees. They knew that they didn't have enough pitchers to fill out a rotation so they went and signed Igawa to just eat up innings. YOU CANNOT MAKE A SUCCESSFUL CAREER IN MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL BY PITCHING UP IN THE ZONE WITH MEDIOCRE STUFF!!!!! Igawa has had immense run support from the lineup behind him. Let's see how "good" he looks when it's a tight game and he doesn't have 8 runs of support. Good "stuff" means that if your location isn't on you can still get by and pitch a solid game. If Igawa's location is off, he pitches batting practice. I'd hardly call that "good" stuff. To me, that's "crappy" stuff. Right now, the same can be said about Mussina too.
I've been watching baseball for over 20 years my friend, and unlike many fans of various teams I'm not willing to say "We're the best" when that's far from the truth. The Yankees' starting pitching is pathetic this year, and just as it has been in the previous few years, it will be the reason why they don't win the World Series. Good pitching and good defense wins a championship. Not questionable pitching and pathetic defense. For the Yankees, their only good pitching is the bullpen (which at this rate will be blown out by the end of July), Pettite, Wang, and perhaps one of the many minor-leaguers they are slow to bring up. That's really it.
you can drone on and on and on and on all you want. Apparantly you will need to watch the game for 100 years before you get a grasp.
1. I NEVER SAID Igawa's stuff was 'GREAT" I said it was not "CRAP" as you called it. Nice try twisting that one
2. Mike Mussina has been as consistent as any pitcher has every year the last 15 years. For you to continually spout out that you expect NOTHING from his is testament to how cluless you are. YOU ARE A BRIDGE JUMPER. Didn't we go over this already? Mike Mussina comes out in early April with a sub-par fastball and you take that lock stock and barrel that he is done? Again, more evidence that you are a bridge jumper
3. Where did I or ANYBODY say that we "Expect him to put up GREAT numbers like when he was younger" Jdurg, you CAN'T come here and put words into peoples mouth. You will get slapped around like a rag doll brother. All I have been doing is debating your BRIDGE JUMPING analysis.
4. Jdurg, you are the Yankee fan that hides in the closet, opens the door a crack to watch the game and slams it shut THE SECOND something goes wrong. Then, you make SEASON LONG predictions based on something you saw in one or two games. Bridgejumper, bridge jumper, bridgejumper
5. "The Yankees starting pitching is pathetic this year" DO I NEED MORE EVIDENCE that you are a bridge jumper? I mean, its April 20th for CHRIST SAKE. LOL How can you say that on April 20th? How the hell do you or I know what the rotation will look like in August? Do you see what I am saying? You are making these baseless observations in APRIL. A-P-R-I-L. A - P - R - I - L
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<< <i>Did I mention you guys were walking into a BEAR TRAP this weekend?
That is what we heard before last years version of the Massacre .... we shall see!
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I was yelling at the TV when Torre put in Rivera in the bottom of the 8th with only one out. What a dumb move for a couple of reasons...1. Rivera hasnt had hardly any work. Just how good can he be when he has thrown only 7 innings so far this season? Does Torre really think he has his best stuff--and for 2 innings? 2. Why put in Rivera vs Varitek? Varitek was ON tonight and has also seen Rivera a whole heck of a lot more than Visciano or Farnsworth...or even Colter Bean for that matter! May as well put the BP coach in there for Varitek! There is just too much experience when it comes to Varitek vs Rivera.
Don't get me wrong, Im not making excuses for the loss...just saying what I didnt like seeing.
BTW...Schilling looked like Mike Mussina out there today. A dead fastball serving up. Has Schillings arm already gone tired?
I watched the game last night and really enjoyed it. I am not a Yankee or Red Sox fan (Mariner is a clue), but I just enjoy the electricity of these games. Just a third party, objective viewpoint since I am not a fan of either team.....I think the Yankees are in trouble if they don't get the pitching straightened out. The set up men look awful and Rivera looks human. The starters are questionable too overall. There is nothing more demoralizing than putting up the runs and still losing because of the bullpen. ARod could hit 80 homers and drive in 200 runs but if the pitching problems don't get addressed, then forget the World Series for them. Just my humble opinion.
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The Yankees this year have a strong flaw in their starting pitching. Torre blows a load any time he can use their bullpen because of how pathetic their starters are. Look at last night's game. Torre screwed that one up badly. He is the reason they lost. Today's game, the Yankees had no shot because their starter was a total joke in regards to talent. Until the Yankees can provide pitchers who start games and can go more than 6 innings before crying like little girls this year's team will have a tough time winning. I am a HUGE Yankees fan and remember the days when Wade Taylor and Scott Kamineicki where the "star" starters with Steve Howe and Lee Smith in the bullpen. Back then, they were on drugs when they though Taylor, Kamineicki and Hitchco$k (I can't spell his real name because apparently that's a naughty word here on the forums) were going to be stars.
Face it. The starter this year are jokes. They are pathetic wastes of players who have no business in the majors. The ONLY reason why the Yankees aren't four games below .500 is due to their offense. Pettitte is their ONLY respectable starter but he can't pitch five days in a row. Take off your goggles and open your eyes. The Yankees have the worst starting staff in the league and it will take a LOT for them to get better.
If and when the Yankees are playing well I don't want to see you around here waving your pom poms. Bridge Jumper.
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Still does not mend the pain from the Boston Massacre last year but it will do for now
Honestly guys you were not at full strength by any stretch, it might have played out different had Mussina and Co. been involved. It feels good but you were at a bit of a disadvantage this time around, we will catch each other a few more times this season and go from there....
I do just want to say that in this Yankee thread, there should be NO ROOM for bridge jumping doomsday spoiled rotten Yankee "fans" such as Jdurg to bring us down. Yes we have plenty of questions, yes things seem pretty bad at the moment, and lastly YES it is April. I have ZERO respect ..... and I mean ZERO respect for any Yankee "fan" who comes on here and crys like a baby. I don't care if we were 0-16 at this point. There is NO ROOM for bridge jumping wannabee fans in this thread. The Sox are TOUGH and they will be all year, BUT there is just too much baseball left to whine and cry like a spoiled rotten baby a$$ bi$ch.
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I am feeling ok since a mighty fine gent like yourself chimed in on post number 100 of this thread
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I have to say I felt bad for Wright. He was on a national stage at Fenway Park in one of the biggest rivalries in sports. He just wasnt getting ahead on the count and didnt seem to have any pitches really working. It was a real tough spot for him.
Anyway, tomorrow is a new day...Yanks will come back strong and healthy just as Boston decides to lose all control just before All Star break....yup, thats my prediction! Then we'll just have to keep the Blue Jays under control!
The Yankees will be there come playoff time, I have no doubt about that. The make or break for them playing in the Series will be the pitching though.
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Phillip Hughes is pitching on Thursday, time to take the diapers off of him.
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There is NOTHING I hate more than a fan of a team saying "We're great, we're great" when that is far from the truth. Boston fans do this, Bandwagon Fans do this, and sadly a lot of Yankees fans do this. To say "I'm a joke of a fan" because I'm not willing to put on Rose Colored Glasses and only say great things about the Yankees is a friggen joke. A real fan will criticize his own team when they do things wrong (as the Yankees have done this year) or when they are severely lacking in certain areas.
Rivera blew his only two save chances this year. Did you hear me running around saying "Rivera's done, Rivera's done!"? No. That's because Rivera still has his good stuff but has had some problems with command caused simply by a lack of available work. The starters (Pettitte excluded) have not shown ANY good "stuff" in addition to a lack of command. Hell, the entire staff walked 9 or 10 guys on Sunday in Boston? If the Yankees had ANY starting pitching at all they would have easily won two of three in Boston, or perhaps swept the Red Sox. Hell, they scored 5 runs or more in EVERY GAME AND LOST EACH ONE!
You can give all the excuses you want, but when it comes down to it the game is decided by the talent on the field and the current Yankees have no talent in regards to starting pitching (again, Pettitte excluded because he has been respectable most of the year). I just pray that rushing up Phillip Hughes isn't going to ruin the kid like Chase Wright has probably been permanently ruined. Come October, IF the Yankees reach the playoffs, excuses won't get you into the next round of the playoffs. Pitching and defense will.
BUZZ OFF. It is April, the Yankees will make plenty of changes and if they work great, if not oh well. Nobody needs a bridge jumping "fan" like yourself crying his eyes out in April. ITS APRIL. Do you think for a second the pitching staff the Yankees have now .... in APRIL ... will look the same in August? If the pitching still sucks this bad in August then it is time to cry like a baby. NOT IN APRIL you JOKE.
As far as the personal insults thing ..... well .... sometimes the truth hurts and the shoe fits. Everything you have barfed out so far point to you indeed being a JOKE. Go cry about your April Yankees somewhere else.
And I NEVER said quote .... "GREAT" things about these Yankees. Stop creating your own words from other people mouths ya JOKE. A real fan does not cry and whine and moan like a spoiled rotten brat this early in the season.
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I have no problem with anybody criticizing the Yanks, but I do have a problem with "fans" like Jdurg who talk like all is lost. Bash Torre as he deserves it, bash the pitching as they deserve it, but don't come here and cry like a baby that it is a given that this will continue all season long. Even if it does, it shows incredibly WEAK SUBSTANCE as a fan to believe it in APRIL
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