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2007 NY YANKEES run at the WORLD SERIES :)
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LAst year these kind of threads were not possible without being derailed for obvious reasons. So, lets try again! 
I will start posting the magic number count on May 1st
I will start posting the magic number count on May 1st
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We are on for the sigline bet correct...
perk, I'm in on the siggy bet!
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Yankees game and a Samuel Adams Light go well together!
-- Yogi Berra
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<< <i>uh oh. We are 1-2. At this rate the Yanks will finish 54-108.
I may be going out on a limb, but I don't think that will happen.
Susan is horrible.
Peace
Doug
45% complete.
Js
<< <i>Man, year after year the O's own the Yanks.
Js >>
Nah, thats not true. The Yankees SPANK them in Camden Yards. I think the Yankees have the best record of any American League team in that park since it opened. The Yankees OWN the Orioles in Baltimore. I just wish they would play better in the Bronx!
EDITED to add the Yankees were 5-4 at HOME vs the Orioles last year and 7-3 (as usual) on the road. So the Yanks were 12-7 vs the O'. Absolutley NO OWNAGE there by Baltimore.
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I agree - if I were a Yankee fan, I'd be drinking a lot also this season...it's gonna be a long one!
Agree there. Suzy Q is torture to listen to, IMO.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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<< <i>This thread has alot of
I agree - if I were a Yankee fan, I'd be drinking a lot also this season...it's gonna be a long one!
I knew ya couldn't keep your nose out Jerry! Thanks for the invite into Sox threads!! And have no fears, the Sox are still a 3rd place team.
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Didn't wanna get me no trade
Never want to be like papa
Working for the boss every night and day
--"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
On a pace to go 162- 0 <;-) eyeroll (-;>
Steve
Nothing better then getting out of the gate quickly huh? In impressive fashion too. Good luck to all Mets fans here!
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Here we go...bottom of the 9th, 2 out and bases loaded!
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<< <i>If a lot of you Yankees fans had your way last October, he couldn't have done this because you wanted to chase him out of town... >>
Yeah, it was all the fault of the fans!
Here we go...I was hoping this crap could stay out of this thread.
<< <i>If a lot of you Yankees fans had your way last October, he couldn't have done this because you wanted to chase him out of town... >>
This is the BIGGEST misconception about the A-Rod / Yankee fan situation. No matter how many times Yankee fans (who actually watch the games) try to explain it we still get this response. Yankee fans WANT A-Rod to succeed but have gotten more and more frustrated with his post season aperformance and big spot performance in the regular season.
I think I can speak for most Yankee fans and say I hope his head is FINALLY settled and can get down to buisness!
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ETA - not sure where to look this up, but the Yankees and Os must play the longest average games in baseball. Can't remember the last time I saw these teams play a game in less than 3+ hrs.
Damon still isnt close to 100%. Matsui looks like he is gonna miss some time.
Make the call Joe !
-- Yogi Berra
Steve
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Pavano: Poor command of every pitch and constantly pitching from behind.
Pettitte: The best of the bunch but still not having great command. He was actually screwed by shotty defense behind him and poor catching from Posada.
Mussina: Words can't describe how horrible he looked. No pop on the fastball, no command of the fastball, and no ability to get people out.
Igawa: I pray to god the Yankees can find a way out of his contract. Uggggh.
Rasner: As I expected, a kid who can't keep it in the ballpark and doesn't intimidate anybody.
The offense has saved the Yankees twice this season, otherwise they'd be 0-5 instead of 2-3. I've watched all five games and NONE of them were enjoyable. Each time the Yankees would score, they'd give it right back. When they score early, such as A-Rod's bomb today, I can't even get excited about it because I KNOW their pitching will not hold onto any lead that is given to them. Lord only knows how the outing by Pettitte today will harm his start on Tuesday.
Now with their bad defense in tow, they go to the Metrodome and face a team with great pitching and great defense. The Yankees may be able to score 4 runs a game, but since they give up at the bare minimum 5 runs a game there is no way they can win. I really don't want them bringing up Phil Hughes too soon as that can only ruin him, but dammit, I think they might have to.
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Mussina "might" have a good season but he's really losing a lot in terms of stamina and velocity. His command is going to have to be incredibly good this year as he can no longer get away with making mistakes over the plate. His stuff just isn't what it used to be.
In regards to the defense, it's not just the physical errors that are frustrating but it's the lack of range and the poor decisions made by many. Since about 2001 I've been cringing whenever a ball is hit up the middle. The Yanks' defense just isn't as good as it needs to be. I guess I'm just one of the few Yankees fans who sheds the rose-colored glasses when looking at the team's pitching and defense. They just aren't as good as they need to be to win a championship. During the mid to late 90's when they went on their tear, two things you never worried about was pitching and defense. They had plenty of solid starters who would pick each other up and if they lost it wasn't because of a horrific outing. When missing they'd miss by a hair and that's it. Today, their pitchers aren't missing by "hairs". They're missing by feet in terms of location. Yes it's early in the season, but what glimmer of hope have their pitchers shown? Remember, these guys are old in comparision to the rest of the league and old people don't get better. What they did last year has no influence on how they'll progress this year. If it was a young staff there wouldn't be nearly as many worries as there is when the staff is as old as they are now.
<< <i> I guess I'm just one of the few Yankees fans who sheds the rose-colored glasses when looking at the team's pitching and defense. >>
Well, thanks for the back handed slap. I'll tell you what you are doing, you are jumping off the freaking bridge. Drone on and on all you want .... that is what you are doing. 5 games into the season.
Listen, almost EVERY team out there has the same questions the Yankees have. Stop expecting the Yankees to be perfect in every area. You would have never survived as a St. Louis Cardinal fan last year that is for sure.
You do realize today was Pettitte's throw day today don't you? He pitched 1 inning in a game instead of doing it in the pen. Where is the problem there?
You do realize the staff you just labeled as old has every starter in their 20's besides TWO. Don't you? ..... check that three.
Rasner 26
Wang 27
Karstens 24
Igawa 27
Pavano 31
Pettitte 34
Mussina 38
How is this group of starters "old" ?????
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If you want to say that I'm "panicking" and ready to "jump off a bridge", then go ahead and do so. You're entitled to any opinion you want. I just see a team that has some big holes in it, and holes that were mentioned prior to spring training, and unless they develop some great pitching this year I can't see them advancing in the playoffs. If someone said that they had strong starting pitching and then this happened, then yeah, I'd say that it's an abberation. The thing is, every analysis of the Yankees has questioned their starting pitching and these first five games prove every criticism of them to be correct.
<< <i> The thing is, every analysis of the Yankees has questioned their starting pitching and these first five games prove every criticism of them to be correct. >>
The first 5 games of a baseball season don't prove Squat. You are a bridge jumper
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<< <i>The thing is, every analysis of the Yankees has questioned their starting pitching and these first five games prove every criticism of them to be correct. >>
Including mine.
So, Pettite had to pitch relief today? I'd be concerned if my pitching staff was already in a panic mode like that 5 games in. I don't care if it was his day to throw or not, a game situation is very different than throwing on the side. Just an observation.
Jerry, again, it was Pettittes throw day for crying out loud. He got an inning in. Run with it if you want, you are wrong.
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<< <i>The thing is, every analysis of the Yankees has questioned their starting pitching and these first five games prove every criticism of them to be correct. >>
Including mine.
So, Pettite had to pitch relief today? I'd be concerned if my pitching staff was already in a panic mode like that 5 games in. I don't care if it was his day to throw or not, a game situation is very different than throwing on the side. Just an observation. >>
Jerry, I do appreciate your expert analysis of Yankee pitching ..... the problem is that you don't use the same logic wiith your Red Sox. Its D-Mat and pray for rain!
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<< <i>The thing is, every analysis of the Yankees has questioned their starting pitching and these first five games prove every criticism of them to be correct. >>
Including mine.
So, Pettite had to pitch relief today? I'd be concerned if my pitching staff was already in a panic mode like that 5 games in. I don't care if it was his day to throw or not, a game situation is very different than throwing on the side. Just an observation. >>
Jerry, I do appreciate your expert analysis of Yankee pitching ..... the problem is that you don't use the same logic wiith your Red Sox. Its D-Mat and pray for rain! >>
No way, Dan - Schilling, Beckett, Dice-K, Wakefield, and Tavarez (soon to be Jon Lester in that spot, I hope) is a solid rotation, much more solid than what the Yanks currently have. I say currently, because I know they will throw truckloads of money at Clemens soon.
And, how bad is Igawa? That one serves you guys right, trying to jump on the Dice-K bandwagon!
nah ..... as usual you are WAY over-rating the Sox and giving the Yanks no credit. The SOx skeptic can easliy say with merit that Beckett is a flash in the pan home run machine, Wakefield scares NOBODY, Tavarez just plain ol stinks, Schilling is 40 and won't be able to pitch consistently well. That leaves D-Mat who obviously was very impressive in his first outing.
Also, ANY baseball fan worth his salt is not going to pass judgment on a guys first outing in the big leagues. Except of course if it fits an agenda Jerry?
Yep
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And, how bad is Igawa? That one serves you guys right, trying to jump on the Dice-K bandwagon! >>
The Dice-K bandwagon? Isn't it the Bosox jumping on the Japanese bandwagon with the rest of baseball? hehe
Yes, Igawa looked horrible his first outing. No, he isnt the power pitcher that DMat is. But Igawa IS as much as an accomplished pitcher in Japan as DMat. Igawa does have 3 strikeout crowns to his credit so you know the guy can get the job done. Let's just hope he can get it done in MLB as he did in Japan.
Don't cut Igawa short yet. It's waaaaaay too early for that.
Once Wang comes back, the Yankes rotation will no doubt be MUCH stronger. Also cant expect Mussina to look the way he did in his first start. Those things happen. Unfortunately, they have happened consecutively.
No, Rasner doesnt scare anyone but he can throw strikes. He'll be able to get the job done. And if he doesnt, there is a lot of talent waiting to jump on the opportunity.
Both Ty Clippard and Philip Hughes had excellent starts in their first AAA outings. I'll say it again...I think Ty Clippard has a better chance of becoming more of a high success pitcher than Hughes. There are 155/156 games left...its a long ways yet!
<< <i>Between old man starters, I would rather have Schilling than Mussina right now. He looked good pitching in a band box today against a good lineup. A-rod needs some help on offense. Maybe trading off Sheffield wasn't the right thing to do. >>
The offense is the one thing on this team that doesn't have me worried. They've already shown that they can put runs on the board in bunches. It's just that thanks to their pitching they are being forced to put up 7-8 runs a game in order to win and that is something that won't work for the rest of the season. They now are going out to Minnesotta which has a good pitching staff. NY's offense should be able to score about 3 or 4 runs a game against the starters they are lined up to face. That shouldn't be a problem. The problem will be whether or not the starters can hold the Twins to less than 5 runs and last into the 7th inning so that the bullpen doesn't have to save their asses again.
When Wang gets back the Yankees will have two starters that can produce for them. (Pettite, although he was on a limited pitch count did look good in his start. He just failed to get any help from the players around him when it was needed). Wang pitches very effectively and typically has a low pitch count which should be able to get him late into the game. The bullpen, as long as they aren't worn out by the end of April, will be good this year. It's the starters that need to turn it around and turn it around fast.
In regards to the cold weather comment, if the other teams' starters and play looked as bad as the Yankees then I'd buy that excuse. The thing is, the other teams' pitchers had to deal with the exact same conditions but they lasted much longer than NY's and looked much better in doing so.
I concede. I just canceled MLB extra innings too. Can't wait till Opening Day 2008
Hey Jdurg, I, as a Yankee fan appreciate your concerns. You just have gone WAY WAY overboard 5 ..... that is FIVE games into the season. I will leave the rope ladder for you so you can climb back up onto the bridge once the Yankees are playing well.
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"Wow, all this payroll, and we lost in the playoffs...AGAIN"
or, a close second
"How about those Mets?"
<< <i>The most common phrase uttered by Yankee fans in modern history:
"Wow, all this payroll, and we lost in the playoffs...AGAIN"
or, a close second
"How about those Mets?" >>
the last gasp cryings of Red Sox fan who KNOWS his team is a payroll giant and can't use that crutch anymore
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<< <i>The most common phrase uttered by Yankee fans in modern history:
"Wow, all this payroll, and we lost in the playoffs...AGAIN"
or, a close second
"How about those Mets?" >>
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