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    BozgrizBozgriz Posts: 11 ✭✭
    That is a great card!
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    theczartheczar Posts: 1,590 ✭✭
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    DavidPuddyDavidPuddy Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭
    The Ryan's a little off T/B, but it does fill the holder. I've seen some high dollar 10's being sold that don't seem to "fit" into the holder.
    No back scan for 5K?
    "The Sipe market is ridiculous right now"
    CDsNuts, 1/9/15
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    theczartheczar Posts: 1,590 ✭✭

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    I agree about Ryan.

    Remember when his 68 rookie first cracked a $1,000 in the early 90's? It went to $1,200. At the time, Blyleven, Sutton, etc were all $125 or something.

    -His durability
    -The fact that he played in a major market like dallas. Beckett was in Dallas, when Beckett was the bible in the late 80's/early 90's. It gave him a lot of hobby visability. Vs if he played in Kansas City or Montreal, he wouldnt have been as popular hobbywise IMO.
    -He had an accessible, likeable hobby persona.

    Remember the Ryan Classic card from about 1991. He and Bo Jackson were holding up a card. Those kinds of promotional cards elevated his status. A bunch of factors that gave him a strong following.
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    theczartheczar Posts: 1,590 ✭✭
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    SDSportsFanSDSportsFan Posts: 5,090 ✭✭✭✭✭
    On the Ryan in MLI's auction...

    At least two (including Donald Spence), and possibly three of the top five registry set holders need the card.

    Heck, take a look at the bids for the 1979, 80 and 81 PSA 10 Ryans!!! image



    Steve
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    cougar701cougar701 Posts: 544 ✭✭✭
    Any help with a lead on a 77 Carlton PSA 10?

    By the way, how much do unopened boxes of 77's from trusted sellers go for these days?
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    estangestang Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭
    Baseball Card Exchange 1977 Prices: Wax Box: $900, Vending Box: $395, Wax Tray of 3 Packs: $150, Rack Pack: $75, Cell Pack: $50
    Enjoy your collection!
    Erik
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    gumbyfangumbyfan Posts: 5,159


    << <i>Baseball Card Exchange 1977 Prices: Wax Box: $900, Vending Box: $395, Wax Tray of 3 Packs: $150, Rack Pack: $75, Cell Pack: $50 >>



    I've wondered if the wax box is the same one that Dave & Adam's had on their site for $700 before the National that isn't there now. I hope it's not because the box listed on their site noted that some of the packs showed wear, which concerns me.

    In other news, I know this is a thread about the set, but if anyone has a Yount PSA 9 from this set that they're looking to move, please contact me. Sorry for the blatant spam, but I'm 1 card away from 100% on my player set.
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    Now 35% discount off total if you purchase the entire remaining lot!!!

    BUNCH OF '77 TOPPS PSA & OTHERS FOR SALE. Attempting to finance a few desired purchases. Prices listed include delivery; minimum 3-card purchase. Purchase 4 or more and deduct 10% from total. No qualifiers unless specified. Paypal payment only to pahellman@msn.com; no need to PM or e-mail me prior to payment. Specify cards and address in Paypal comments or send me a PM or e-mail after making payment. All cards available until payment is received. As payments are received, I will edit the list to indicate which cards have been sold. Thanks!

    This is what's left:

    1973 Topps

    #103 Celerino Sanchez PSA 8 $3
    #556 Yankees Team PSA 8 $10
    #573 Fred Beene PSA 7 $2
    #650 Felipe Alou PSA 7 $2

    1975 Topps

    #421 Mets Team (Yogi Berra, Mgr) PSA 8 $6

    1975 Topps Mini

    #395 Bud Harrelson PSA 8 $4
    #272 Lynn McGlothen PSA 7 $2

    1976 Topps

    #345 Babe Ruth PSA 8 $10
    #346 Ty Cobb PSA 9 $25
    #349 Walter Johnson PSA 8 $4
    #556 Twins Team PSA 8 $4

    1976 Topps Traded

    #592T Willie Randolph PSA 9 $13

    1977 Topps

    #406 Tim Johnson PSA 9 $6
    #296 Don Hood PSA 9 $6
    #59 Larry Christenson PSA 9 $6
    #469 Pat Kelly PSA 9 $6
    #514 Cliff Johnson PSA 9 $6
    #417 Wayne Garrett PSA 9 $6
    #573 Joe Ferguson PSA 9 $6
    #214 Darrell Porter PSA 8 $3
    #65 Skip Lockwood PSA 8 $3
    #352 Mike Phillips PSA 8 $3
    #378 Jim Umbarger PSA 8 $3
    #114 Bruce Dal Canton PSA 9OC $2
    #289 Gene Garber PSA 9OC $2
    #618 Pat Dobson PSA 9OC $2
    #225 Bob Apodaca PSA 9OC $2
    #548 Joel Youngblood PSA 9OC $2

    1979 Topps

    #586 Bob Horner (R) PSA 8 $8

    1981 Donruss

    #425 Tom Seaver PSA 9 $8

    1985 Topps

    #493 Orel Hershiser (R) PSA 8 $4

    1987 Donruss

    #97 Jose Canseco PSA 8 $3
    #492 Barry Larkin (R) PSA 8 $3
    #492 Barry Larkin (R) PSA 8 $3

    1988 Donruss

    #654 Ron Gant (R) PSA 8 $3

    1990 Topps

    #245 Roger Clemens PSA 8 $2
    #4 Nolan Ryan PSA 9 $4

    1990 Upper Deck

    #323 Roger Clemens PSA 9 $4
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    TNP777TNP777 Posts: 5,711 ✭✭✭
    I'll post here and over on the b/s/t board. I'm looking to put a '77 team set together for a good friend in 8 or 9. I don't want to leave too much specific info here in case he happens to wander in. Please PM me if you are interested in helping me out. Thanks in advance!
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    BkritzBkritz Posts: 1,093 ✭✭
    I have a few psa 8, PSA 8.5, and PSA 9 1977 topps, if anyone is interested.... PM me with what you need.


    PSA 8s: 330, 410 (8.5), 365 (8.5), 413, 543 (8.5), 510 Candelaria (8.5 - a toughie), 545, and 50 Cey.



    PSA 9: 332, 502, 551, 637, 63, 446, 436


    Thanks!

    B
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    '77 Topps Goose Gossage PSA 9 NQ just added to my inventory of cards for sale (see my post above). Low pop. 15 with no 10's!!! Get it while it lasts!!!
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    theczartheczar Posts: 1,590 ✭✭
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    bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭
    Yeah, that recent Fidrych sale is flat out nuts. Amazing.
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    It looks like four bidders were knocking heads on that Fidrych RC. Someone wanted to make sure BlackSox 77 really earned that one.
    You would think the owner of the first Fidrych PSA 10 would want to capitalize now and list his.
    Shocking price on that one.
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    Cardboard Zombie
    Always buying perfect 1986 Fleer Basketball PSA 10 cards and 1982 OPC Nolan Ryan cards. Thank you.
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    jackstrawjackstraw Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭
    Why don't I ever step in it like that?
    Collector Focus

    ON ITS WAY TO NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658
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    cougar701cougar701 Posts: 544 ✭✭✭
    Just picked up the recent 1977 Steve Carlton PSA 10 that ended on ebay for a reasonable $151.99

    Ended Auction


    I am also trying to complete the set raw in NM-MT or better condition. I am 34 cards short, does anyone have any extras that they would be willing help out with? Not all of them are commons, but can provide a list if you have quite a few. I can also help some others in return as I have about 500 dups myself.
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    DavidPuddyDavidPuddy Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭
    I threw some nominal bids on a bunch of the 10's that ended in the last few days just to make sure people were paying attention. As usual with the 77's, people ARE paying attention. I didn't get any.
    "The Sipe market is ridiculous right now"
    CDsNuts, 1/9/15
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    theczartheczar Posts: 1,590 ✭✭
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    theczartheczar Posts: 1,590 ✭✭
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    Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,535 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image 70% is a monstrous accomplishment!
    Mike
    Bosox1976
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    PM sent. Congrats on the 70%! Very impressive! image
    Seeking PSA 10 1984 Donruss Rated Rookies
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    theczartheczar Posts: 1,590 ✭✭
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    GDM67GDM67 Posts: 2,523 ✭✭✭✭
    I just took a few minutes and went back to the front page and skimmed through this thread again. You've made good, steady progress in the last two years. That 70% mark is well earned.
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    SOMSOM Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭
    Absolutely breathtaking, czar!

    I think that only those of us who are deeply into the 77 set realize just how tough the job is that you're accomplishing. Those on the sideline likely look at the 77 set as a total waste of time and effort.

    Ha!

    I'd like to see them try to put together even a PSA 8 set!

    But we insiders know how incredible your task is. Congratulations on hitting 70!

    Nick

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    theczartheczar Posts: 1,590 ✭✭
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    bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭
    70% is flat out incredible. I am not even at 70% for the 77 subset I am collecting (18 cards total). Congrats, really!!!!!
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    cougar701cougar701 Posts: 544 ✭✭✭
    I wanted to drop a line and publically thank Bobbybakerriv for really helping me BIG time with my 1977 raw set.

    This guy went way out of his way with some star cards to bring me to needing only 2 more cards to complete the raw set!

    Thanks Bobby!

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    theczartheczar Posts: 1,590 ✭✭


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    theczartheczar Posts: 1,590 ✭✭
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    DavidPuddyDavidPuddy Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭
    That's about the nicest one I've seen. Perfect registration.
    "The Sipe market is ridiculous right now"
    CDsNuts, 1/9/15
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    bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭
    Beauty. I was looking at that one but have fast realized that it is going to go stratospheric on me. image I love that card though!
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    jackstrawjackstraw Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭
    4SC has a reserve of over a 1000? That is just crazy.
    Collector Focus

    ON ITS WAY TO NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658
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    theczartheczar Posts: 1,590 ✭✭
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    theczartheczar Posts: 1,590 ✭✭
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    CWCW Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭
    Hey all,

    I was going to post this in the community forum as a new thread, but when
    I saw this thread at the top of the registry forum, I figured it should be posted
    here, too. I wrote up this little story last night. Somewhat ironic considering the
    recent discussion here.....

    Finding "The Bird" -- A Story About My Most Sentimental Card

    Back in '77, ate the ripe age of 7 yrs, I opened my first few packs
    of baseball cards. In one of those packs I found THE card practically
    every kid in Detroit was looking for: Mark "The Bird" Fidrych's rookie
    card. I've always thought the '77 Topps set had some of the best
    photography -- so many cards in that set just look perfect. Firdrych's
    card was no exception, as it featured his red curly hair and that goofy
    gaze, with a fittingly child-like, scribbly autograph from The Bird
    himself. Plus it had that little Topps All-Star Rookie trophy in the
    bottom right corner, which made it even cooler.

    We've all seen the threads -- What is your favorite card, regardless of
    value? Which card has the most sentimental value? I'd always pipe
    into those threads and mention this card -- my Mark Fidrych rookie.

    About 15 yrs ago I picked up all my old cards from my parents' attic.
    I was one of the lucky ones whose Mom didn't throw out their cards.
    I always figured that Fidrych card was tucked away somewhere among
    those cards, some 2 or 3 thousand of them. I figured one day I'll
    dig through all those cards and find that Bird rookie, so I can scan
    it and share it on the forums. In the meantime, I picked up a nice
    PSA 8 graded example for $35...


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    .... but that old card, the original one I pulled in 1977, would always
    be priceless. Wherever the hell it was...

    Two weeks ago I stopped by to visit my Mom, who's still going strong
    at 82 yrs old. My Dad was out running errands (he's pushing 83), so
    my Mom & I sat around the kitchen table drinking coffee and catching
    up on the latest things. The conversation turned to the Tigers, and
    my Mom asked if I wanted to see her cards. "Sure!" I said, and off
    she went to get them.

    She came back with a small stack of about 40 cards, and asked if I
    wanted them. These were all Tigers cards, some 73 Topps, a couple
    74's, but mainly 77's. "Ah, Aurelio Rodriguez," I said as I flipped
    through the stack, "he had a rocket arm. Sure, I'll add them to the
    collection, thanks!"

    "You can have all those, but THIS one I'm saving... he's my guy!"

    I looked up, and there she held in her hand The Card... the Mark
    Fidrych rookie. It was twice as beat up as all the others, but it was
    in a plastic holder cut out from one of those 9-card plastic sheets.

    "HOLY CRAP! That's my Bird card!" I thought to myself, and there my
    Mom held it, cherishing it all these years. All this time, I thought
    it was tucked among my old cards in my closet at home. Little did I
    know that she kept it for her collection, prized enough to keep it in
    that protective holder. I obviously didn't say anything, as it was
    best to just let her keep it as she wished. She probably bought me
    that pack of cards back in '77 anyways.

    As corny as it sounds, I have to admit I got a warm feeling during
    that moment, sharing a close bond with my Mom through, of all things,
    a Mark Fidrych baseball card. She raised 8 kids and cooked some of
    the best meals on a tight budget. While my Dad taught us all about
    discipline, respect, and determination (good things, no doubt), My Mom
    instilled in us the qualities of understanding, compassion, & kindness.

    And how to spot a cool looking baseball card.

    I asked her if I could borrow the card for a week so I could scan it
    and finally share the image here. So here it is... The Card.

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    CW,
    Awesome story!!! I would rather have your original Fidrych card than the one being sold.
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    DavidPuddyDavidPuddy Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭
    CW,
    Yours has really nice centering.

    Great story.
    "The Sipe market is ridiculous right now"
    CDsNuts, 1/9/15
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    theczartheczar Posts: 1,590 ✭✭
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    Czar,
    Not quite modern and in fact only a few years after the Fidrych phenomenon but how about the great Joe Charboneau???
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    Opps misread your post. One that costs as much. Probably not the great Joe Charboneau!
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    bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭
    They seem to be getting greedier with their reserves, etc. How on earth is 2K not a smoking deal for them on that card? Unreal. I love that card but come on... they will probably relist with a reserve a whopping $20 lower. For the record, I have purchased plenty from them in the past. It just seems entirely absurd to me to set a reserve so high on that card. Just my opinion...

    Good luck with your 77s! image
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    theczartheczar Posts: 1,590 ✭✭
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    CWCW Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for reading, guys. Glad you enjoyed it.

    Good luck with your sets -- it's a great one. Best photography from the 70's era! image
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    theczartheczar Posts: 1,590 ✭✭
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    bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭
    The Fiddy seems to have lost some value rapidly. I am still stunned that the reserve had been set so high...
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    bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>strike two on fidrych.

    last week the high bidder was a little of 2K and was reserved out. this week i was high at $1500 and of course reserved out.

    they should have taken the 2000 and been happy. >>



    No doubt about it! Heck, $1500 is a ton for that card IMHO.
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    4sc is getting too greedy across the board. They have joined the ranks of the other 'big' dealers who would rather sell 10 cards a month and make a killing rather than sell more cards at reasonable prices. The lower pop stuff they sell is buy it now with a crazy price or an auction with a nutty reserve. People are paying enough if it is a high demand card by just letting it go to auction with no reserve. The bird is an excellent example. Make your high bid $1,200 next time. I've seen this in other years plenty of times on very low pop cards. With every auction the high bid gets lower and lower until the seller caves. After all, how long would you hold an asset that will only depreciate significantly when another one is graded? Not long for these dealers.
    Collecting '52-'54 in PSA 7, '55 to '67 in PSA 8, '68 to '79 in PSA 9. See me on the set registry as GI's XXXX Set. Thx.
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