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  • ldfergldferg Posts: 6,743 ✭✭✭
    Love the 77s. Did you catch the Yankees checklist last night from pristine_paper? Went for over a grand as well.


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    hey gang, i thought i'd drop in with a post since i read this thread from time to time....my apologies in advance for spamage, but i wanted to inform anyone who might be interested that i currently have a '77T #561 Pete LaC@ck PSA 10 on eBay right now, it's a POP 3 and real nice....also a handful of PSA 9 HOFers, including a Reggie and a Bench which were pulled from a very memorable BBCE vending box...click on my sig link if ya wanna.

    i'm giving up on doing this set graded for now, but i love and still enjoy my raw set and i'll keep reading here, so think of me as the kid in the candy store window.

    again, sorry for spam, any doubts about me, ask theczar, he'll vouch for me. image thanks.
  • SethroSethro Posts: 671 ✭✭
    Wow! Those all came from one box? Nice.

    I'm keeping an eye on those auctions. Hope to pick up a few!
    Positive transactions: Bighurt2000 - DavidPuddy - ShootyBabitt - Bosox1976 - LarryP - Captainthreeputt - Tedw9 - aconte -EAsports -Johnsteph10 -hhmag70 - depcs - TheThrill22 - scotgreb - longtimemetsfan - cadets68 - augustaman - mcholke - miconelegacy
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    no, just the Reggie and the Bench, the other graded cards from the box have since been sold, the rest reside in my raw set.....some of the other 9's were acquired here from another board member.

    thanks Sethro and good luck.
  • bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭
    That is my favorite Seaver card. Really a great shot.
  • bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭
    Actually, now that I think about it, there are several great action shots in the 77 set (particularly pitchers). Along with the Seaver, you have Matlack, Palmer, JR Richard, Tanana, Randy Jones, Mike Marshall, etc. It would be cool to have Seaver and Matlack facing each other in a Mets display of some sort.
  • GDM67GDM67 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭✭
    Just off the top of my head I would also include Fisk, the Brett Record Breaker, Yount, Reggie Smith and Greg Luzinski in the good action shot parade.
  • hammeredhammered Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭
    Staub and Templeton two of my favorites from when I was a kid
  • bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭
    Those are all definitely great shots as well. Fisk might just be the best. I like Kingman, Garvey, Cey, and Enos Cabell too.
  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,557 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rose NL Championship was always a fave of mine.
    Mike
    Bosox1976
  • Reading this thread, I'm really surprised by the prices high grade '77s bring. I don't remember the card stock being thinner that year, what makes these cards so hard to find in high grade?
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,704 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I love the 77s but the card stock in 79 was even worse, IMO..


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • This thread promted me to get my 1977 set out and take a quick scan. I finished this set in 1987 and haven't looked at it in years. After a quick scan I see the problems you all mention. This is one of the best cards of the stars I found so far. I'm looking to sub at least 50 cards for my PC in the near future and was wondering what you think this would sub ? Not planning on selling it, just protection.

    Thanks
    Paul

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  • Thanks BBG, this is the last one I will post. Is it any better?

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  • estangestang Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭
    It's amazing that many have put together a really nice raw set from the 70s and probably paid full book for a few cards that would be lucky to grade an 8 -- and 8s aren't worth that much. I still maintain cards from the entire 1970s and through 1980 can be tough to find in Mint. It usually gets a response to the effect that tons of unopened quality stuff is still out there.

    If that's the case (pun intended), then where are all these cards? Now is the time to start selling when folks are in their prime pay check days based upon when they were kids.

    I've heard that Larry Fritsch has tons and tons of this stuff. If so, you would think it would be leaking into the market at a faster clip.

    Regardless, a mint or gem mint card from a true unopened box -- is still a thing of rare quality...
    Enjoy your collection!
    Erik
  • cpettimdcpettimd Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭
    HI:

    I just got a 1977 Topps Munson graded a PSA 9 dead centered. I collect this set raw with HOF stars in PSA 8 - so the 9 is out of place. If anyone wants to trade or buy this card drop me a pm.
    Chris
    Collecting Clemente master (#6) and basic PSA registry sets, Hank Aaron master and basic sets, Mantle oddball issues, 1970's mega decade HOFs, 1967 Topps pin ups, and high grade Topps Clemente and Aaron. Numerous transactions with over 100 board members.
  • DavidPuddyDavidPuddy Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭
    Chris PM sent.
    "The Sipe market is ridiculous right now"
    CDsNuts, 1/9/15
  • estangestang Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭
    PM sent on Munson...
    Enjoy your collection!
    Erik
  • cpettimdcpettimd Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭
    card just arrived- please pm me with any interest

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    Collecting Clemente master (#6) and basic PSA registry sets, Hank Aaron master and basic sets, Mantle oddball issues, 1970's mega decade HOFs, 1967 Topps pin ups, and high grade Topps Clemente and Aaron. Numerous transactions with over 100 board members.
  • gopherfangopherfan Posts: 106 ✭✭


    << <i>Or if you go the unopened route you could find a really tough card that is impossible to get, that might cost you a premium on eBay (speaking from experience).

    You should really do whatever you have fun doing ... if you enjoy going through unopened material then BBCX is the place to get it. Steve Hart is simply the best at this stuff and you can rely on his quality and service.

    If you do go the unopened route make sure to get plenty of Cardboard Gold Card Saver 1 Semi Rigid Card Holders as you'll want to be using those for your PSA submissions or for storing/selling them.

    ... and then pick up some BCW Super Vault Storage Boxes. They work great for both raw Card Saver 1s and PSA Graded cards.

    Hope this all helps! >>



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  • jackstrawjackstraw Posts: 3,771 ✭✭✭
    That Munson is stunning one of my favorite cards of all time!!!! If I had 300 to blow I would
    buy it in a second. The Yount from 77 is also a favorite that I would plunk down money for
    a beautiful mint 9 like that.
    Collector Focus

    ON ITS WAY TO NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658
  • I just got these back from PSA, they were part of a board rip with BBCE a few months ago. Hoping that someone might be able to tell me what their approx. value is. I was going to throw them up on Feebay, but I may not bother if I'm only going to get a few bucks out of them.

    Thanks


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    1955 Topps is done!
    working on 1956 Topps in PSA 6-7
  • SethroSethro Posts: 671 ✭✭
    VCP on Ruhle is $6.03.

    VCP on Torrez is $5.87.

    I need them both, as I am actively collecting the 77 set, so if you are selling them let me know.
    Positive transactions: Bighurt2000 - DavidPuddy - ShootyBabitt - Bosox1976 - LarryP - Captainthreeputt - Tedw9 - aconte -EAsports -Johnsteph10 -hhmag70 - depcs - TheThrill22 - scotgreb - longtimemetsfan - cadets68 - augustaman - mcholke - miconelegacy
  • Sethro, PM sent.
    1955 Topps is done!
    working on 1956 Topps in PSA 6-7
  • bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭
    My latest pickup. I am now at 13 of 18 for the 77 All-Stars. I still need Garvey, Munson, Fidrych, Carew, and Concepcion.

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  • augustamanaugustaman Posts: 584 ✭✭
    Fidrych? ........Best of luck on that one.
    Bill
    wpkoughan@yahoo.com
    Collecting 1970-1979 PSA 9 & 10 Baseball Cards
  • SethroSethro Posts: 671 ✭✭
    Turnage.
    Positive transactions: Bighurt2000 - DavidPuddy - ShootyBabitt - Bosox1976 - LarryP - Captainthreeputt - Tedw9 - aconte -EAsports -Johnsteph10 -hhmag70 - depcs - TheThrill22 - scotgreb - longtimemetsfan - cadets68 - augustaman - mcholke - miconelegacy
  • bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Fidrych? ........Best of luck on that one. >>



    No one ever said it would be easy....but I'm a patient man. I will get it done one day. Garvey may be more difficult...
  • theczartheczar Posts: 1,590 ✭✭
  • ThoseBackPagesThoseBackPages Posts: 4,871 ✭✭
    man, that King Kong is NIIIIICE!
    Big Fan of: HOF Post War RC, Graded RCs
    WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
  • cpamikecpamike Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭


    << <i>man, that King Kong is NIIIIICE! >>



    You mean the card, and not Kingman himself. image
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    And miles to go before I sleep,
    And miles to go before I sleep."

    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."

    Collecting:
    Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
  • bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭
    Thanks gents. I have always viewed the 77 Kingman as a prototypical example the set that year. Vibrant colors, action shot, and visually appealing. I think only the Garvey is more attractive in that regard IMHO. Of course, as you guys know, I am partial to All-Star cards.
  • estangestang Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭
    Congrats Bobby!

    LMK if you have PSA or SGC 9 mint cards of: Fred Lynn, Fidrych, Garvey, Concepcion or Bench. I have all but the Fidrych in SGC 92 that I'm looking to upgrade just to a 96
    Enjoy your collection!
    Erik


  • << <i>I just got these back from PSA, they were part of a board rip with BBCE a few months ago. Hoping that someone might be able to tell me what their approx. value is. I was going to throw them up on Feebay, but I may not bother if I'm only going to get a few bucks out of them.

    Thanks


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    FYI, to anyone interested... I threw these two cards into a batch that Rick Probstein is selling for me on ebay. $0.99 auctions

    1977 Topps Mike Torrez PSA 9
    1977 Topps Vern Ruhle PSA 9
    1955 Topps is done!
    working on 1956 Topps in PSA 6-7
  • Bobby, do you own the Munson PSA 10?
    Big Fan of: HOF Post War RC, Graded RCs
    WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
  • bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭
    No Munson. That is a tough one. I need Munson, Carew, Fidrych, Garvey, and Concepcion in 10. There is no Garvey existent to my knowledge (yet).
  • ahhh had to ask. there is ONE Munson out there somewhere. nobody visible on the registry has it to the best of my knowledge
    Big Fan of: HOF Post War RC, Graded RCs
    WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
  • theczartheczar Posts: 1,590 ✭✭
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  • << <i>4/5/09 - $1,850.62 >>



    wow!


    so no more in 2.5 years
    Big Fan of: HOF Post War RC, Graded RCs
    WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
  • bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭
    I remember that one. I had a snipe set about 1200 too low. Ha. I remember a Fidrych going for a ton too not too long ago. It's crazy....but all the more fun.


  • << <i>I remember that one. I had a snipe set about 1200 too low. Ha. I remember a Fidrych going for a ton too not too long ago. It's crazy....but all the more fun. >>



    did the Munson LOOK like a 10?
    Big Fan of: HOF Post War RC, Graded RCs
    WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
  • bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭
    I thought so. It was very sharp. That is one tough card to find in 9, let alone 10.
  • bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the scan. Yeah, the usual print marks aren't there either. It is an extremely nice card IMHO. Most Munsons I have have PD, OC, or ST problems. Bobby
  • interesting that it was just sold! lol

    it does look pretty good. i wonder if it being in the old flip is a good or bad thing. it IS a very tough card to track down in a nine holder. there are 37 of them so far, with only the one 10

    i am lucky enough to own two, both of which i do not consider "strong" 9's, but 9's nonetheless.

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    Big Fan of: HOF Post War RC, Graded RCs
    WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
  • bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>interesting that it was just sold! lol

    it does look pretty good. i wonder if it being in the old flip is a good or bad thing. it IS a very tough card to track down in a nine holder. there are 37 of them so far, with only the one 10

    i am lucky enough to own two, both of which i do not consider "strong" 9's, but 9's nonetheless.

    imageimage >>



    Very nice. I have one and it isn't strong IMO either. I love this card though. It is a great shot of Munson.
  • bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭
    Here is an inventory of all the 77 All-Star cards I currently have. This table is a little hard to read but it goes in order from 10 down. Just thought I'd share. I know most of you have a TON of more 77s than I do. I have a stockpile of PSA 8 & 9 Pete Roses going. Ha. FYI - the asterisk means I have it in a .5 variety.

    Year Card Number Player PSA 10 PSA 9 PSA 8 PSA 7 PSA6 RAW
    1977 Topps 30 Greg Luzinski 1 10 6 2 2 14
    1977 Topps 70 Johnny Bench 1 2 2 1* 1 9
    1977 Topps 100 Joe Morgan 1 2 5 2* 13
    1977 Topps 120 Rod Carew 0 9 10 3 3 27
    1977 Topps 170 Thurman Munson 0 1 5 3 17
    1977 Topps 210 Fred Lynn 1 1 9* 3 1 20
    1977 Topps 240 Ron Leflore 3 3 7 1 14
    1977 Topps 265 Mark Fidrych 0 1 8 2 7
    1977 Topps 301 Toby Harrah 1 2 5 4 1 17
    1977 Topps 321 Bob Grich 1 5 7* 1 22
    1977 Topps 347 George Foster 1 1 4 1 12
    1977 Topps 400 Steve Garvey 0 4 8 2 1 22
    1977 Topps 420 Rusty Staub 1 2 13 * 2 15
    1977 Topps 450 Pete Rose 1 10 20* 2* 29
    1977 Topps 500 Dave Kingman 1 3 7 3 29
    1977 Topps 550 Randy Jones 1 4 5 1 1 23
    1977 Topps 560 Dave Concepcion 0 5 6 2 7
    1977 Topps 580 George Brett 1 1 6 2 22
  • That is a GREAT Stash Bobby! Thank you for taking the time to share with us.

    What do the Kingman 9's generally go for?
    Big Fan of: HOF Post War RC, Graded RCs
    WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
  • bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭
    Kingmans graded 9 go from 40 to 60 from what I've seen lately. They used to be quite a bit more, like most of these 77s. image I remember the SMR on a 77 Rose in PSA 9 was $265. Wow. How things have changed.
  • hammeredhammered Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭
    On the Munson PSA 10:
    I have a suspicion it is sheet cut, can't explain why, maybe I'm wrong, it just doesn't look like any other Munson I've seen

    On the PSA 9s:
    A pop of 37 is still low relative to the quantity subbed, which is about 10%. Star cards from this era that only have 10% or so get 9s are pretty scarce. Seaver has a similar %.
    It's a really nice card with nice visual appeal, and '76 was his MVP year so it's a safe bet that there will always be more collectors that want that card than are able to obtain it. '77 collectors, Munson collectors, Yankee collectors.
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