Heading into this season Jeter's career batting average ranked him 75th in major league history. Just a head of one baseball immortal named Hank Greenberg.
75. Derek Jeter (31) .3139 R 76. Manny Ramirez (33) .3137 R 77. Hank Greenberg+ .3135 R
Others below Jeter on the career batting average list include: Hank Aaron, Pete Rose, Mickey Mantle, Ernie Banks George Brett, Robin Yount, Paul Molitor, Yaz, Al Kaline, Ryne Sandberg, Joe Morgan, Eddie Murray, and Dave Winfield.
I think everyone knows where I stand on this. Call Jeter overhyped by the media (not his fault) and that is your perspective, but overrated, you'll never convince me.
writer, good research. I myself agree that at times the media "over hypes" Jeter but this SILLY arguement that Jeter is a "over rated" player is downright STUPID. Now when you combine the non debatable facts that you just presented coupled with the facts that Jeter has 1,999 hits in 1,570 games. The fastest Yankees to 2,000 hits are Joe DiMaggio in 1,537 games and Lou Gehrig in 1,576. The other five -- Babe Ruth, Mickey Mantle, Williams, Don Mattingly and Yogi Berra -- needed more time. It can't be more clear that Jeter is a bonafide Hall of Famer in the making.
Good god, quit saying he's the fastest yankee to 2000 hits, as if the yankees are the only team to have ever existed.
You sound as bad as Spammy saying where Bernie ranked on the list of all time yankee players.
It's a reach, a stretch, and a grab to try to show how great Jeter is. He's a solid player, but worth the money he makes or the press he gets? Nah, not even close.
Vlad Guerrero is killing him in OPS, and has a career batting average of .324. Pujols and Ichiro are both besting him by significant margins in BA. And Todd Helton has the highest batting average of any active player.
What do these 4 great players have in common (other than having higher BA's than Jeter)?
All are making significantly less money and get significantly less national media coverage than mr. 'intangible' jeter.
Axtell, you KNOW the reason why those other names are not mentioned. Notice how they say Jeter is the fastest Yankee behind Yankees amongst Yankee records! See, just like I say, to Yankee fans, there are NO other teams!!!!!!!!!
<< <i>Axtell, you KNOW the reason why those other names are not mentioned. Notice how they say Jeter is the fastest Yankee behind Yankees amongst Yankee records! See, just like I say, to Yankee fans, there are NO other teams!!!!!!!!! >>
Hardcore, it must suck wiping all the $hit off of yourself every time you climb out of Axtell's a$$.
Say what you guys want, the more you try and knock Jeter down as some kind of every day run of the mill player, the more STUPID ya both look. The "reach" and "stretch" going on is the futile attempt to knock Jeter down as a run of the mill solid type guy. The proof has been presented and yet the jackals still cry. Also, nowhere did I or anybody else put Jeter on top of everybody like both Axtell and harda$$ would like all of us to believe.
<< <i>Axtell, you KNOW the reason why those other names are not mentioned. Notice how they say Jeter is the fastest Yankee behind Yankees amongst Yankee records! See, just like I say, to Yankee fans, there are NO other teams!!!!!!!!! >>
also, just for you ya dope, when you are talking about a team with 26 World Series championships IT IS NOTEWORTHY to be at or near the top of the heap with them all time wise. Sorry, but it is all sour grapes for you. Now that the Tigers have a awesome team for the first time in TWO generations all of the sudden hardcore climbs out of the woodwork with eyes full of tears
Perhaps you should stop rolling around in used Yankee jock straps! I do not care how many Yankee championships have been won, Jeter was NOT a member of all 26, or are you going to try to tell me he was, perhaps he is Gehrig, reincarnated, no way in hell can Jeter even be mentioned on the same breath as him, or can he? If you are going to talk about Jeter's championships with the Yankees, then why should I not mention the three by Jack Morris, yet again? That would be Detroit, Minnesota, and the Blue Jays! Ichiro should be in the same HOF talk if Jeter is, remember, from what I hear, championships have no bearing on a player's Hall chances, hence, Jack Morris. Sure, Jeter can play ball, but he is NOT one of the all-time greats yet, notice, I said yet, ok, I just want you to notice that! Hell, he still has time before he can be mentioned in Alan Trammell's breath, in my opinion. OH, damn, ok, sorry, Alan Trammell had a crappy career, no way can someone call Trammell one of the greats to ever play SS.
And it takes a strong start for the Tigers for me to come on these boards? Look at my nickname hippy, I am a hockey fan before I am a baseball fan, oh, damn, perhaps I should not be able to post on a baseball topic, because I am misinformed, also note the month I signed up too. Oh, wait, I am a Wings fan, would you please remind me that they are not in the playoffs anymore this year? Please, because I need to hang onto past glories so I can feel great about my team. God, seeing them sweep the Capitals way back when was awesome. Seeing Yzerman hoist the Cup three times, woooooooo hooooooooooo! Was so great to see the Wings come back from team tragedies to win the Cup back to back! God, I wanna go back, and see it all over! BTW, just letting you know, again, this is sarcastic, have to remind some of you dolts, some of you cannot see it!!!!!!!!!!!!
first of all ...JACK MORRIS should be in the Hall. I would like your lame a$$ to point to ANYTHING that I ever said against JAck Morris's greatness. How the hell did you come up with that you IDIOT?
Secondly you a$$ hat, Jeter has been invoved in 15 fu$king PERCENT of those 26 World Championships. Not good enough? Of course not.
Thirdly, only Yankee fans are not allowed to look on the past with any awe. You bafoons would like to believe that the PAST never happened. It doesn't count. SHUT UP you IDIOT until you bring something with substance to the table
Living in the past leads to boring lives! Nobody wants to see Jeter's stats being compared to TRUE greats of ALL of baseball, amongst his own team's franchise records. Compare Jeter to his peers, of the same era, he is NOT the king. Todd Helton blows him out of the water if you want to talk about offense! The only difference is, Jeter plays in the market where you have to be a media whore, and Helton does NOT. I never said Jeter is not a good player, but this talk that he is not overrated, is hogwash. Sure, feel good about what your team has done, buy their ball cap, buy their jerseys, but what happened 6-10 years ago, nobody cares, the media has already bored the fecal matter out of many people about that shlt! NY is not the center of the world, it is NOT the only city who fields a team, if you are going to argue about someone being great, do not compare him to what someone did in the 20s, compare him to his peers of his era, I was told the same thing when I tried to say I-Rod is all around, better than Johnny Bench and Carlton Fisk. Jeter would be considered a slightly overaverage player, if he played on the Rockies, Devil Rays, and etc, HOPEFULLY, you get the point! If Jeter is so great as people describe his greatness, he would have shown up against Boston in 2004, and we would be talking about who can stop the Yankees and their 10th consecutive World Series crown! As I said before in a past post, I thought the Yankees were supposed to be a team, but it is a squad of individuals. Members of a team are NOT supposed to point fingers, put one player above the rest, and so on and so on, but it is different in NY, because they won 26 World Series, I am thoroughly impressed!!!!!!!!!
NOBODY is trying to put Jeter on top of EVERYBODY. WHere the hell do you IDIOTS come up with this stuff. Does your empty head actually think that we are putting Jeter over EVERY God damned ball player that ever lived? No. What we ARE doing is slapping you idiots around like a rag doll who believe that Jeter somehow is a "average" player outside of NY.
Hardcore, you don't even know what the CRUX of this debate is about. Now if you really want to be a part of this debate do your FU$KING homework and STOP arguing about things that are not even on the table.
All are making significantly less money and get significantly less national media coverage than mr. 'intangible' jeter.
Where is all this press?
I think it is in your mind.
please show us where he gets all this press.
Is it during October whne his team is usually found in the playoffs? You keep saying he gets all this press yet not once have you shown any proof.
You lamely try and compare him to some players as if that is proof. yes helton has the highest batting average among active players HE PLAYS in COORS FIELD!
Guererro is a power hitter, thus his OPS should be higher.
Pufols and Ichiro are not besting him in batting average. the guy is hitting 350. do some homework befor you come on here and tout 'proof'
Admit it, he does not get all this press you claim. he gets alot of it here that is for sure. Stop putting words into peoples mouths and twisting what they say in a lame attempt at trying to show that you know baseball. the truth of the matter is that you do not.
And again you are quick to use God in a post yet at the same time your sig line claims one does not exist. Just typical of you.
In this post money is an issue, yet in another it isnt. You sure seem to talk out of both sides of your mouth, and EVERYONE sees it. believe me they do.
Steve, one thing is quite apparent. Axtell and the porcelain throne will just say whatever the hell they feel necessary in the heat of the moment and then back down and FAIL day in and day out when called out to point to ANY evidence of what they claim we say. I know that jack a$$ people like this roam the earth in numbers that rival ANTS but it sucks that this picnic will forever be infested.
And toilet bowl just backs up anything Axtell says. He doesn't even know what the real arguement has been about becuase Axtell has twisted this whole thing from a "over hyped" by the media into a Jeter just is average propaganda. Toilet bowl is like the big gerbil that finally found its way up Axtell's chute. Unreal
It's so clear that it's jealousy and sour grapes. Both would cream their jeans to have Jeter on the teams THEN and only THEN would Jeter be one of the best we have ever seen.
<< <i> Is it during October whne his team is usually found in the playoffs? You keep saying he gets all this press yet not once have you shown any proof. >>
Oh, he gets them there all on his own, doesn't he? Dope. He's been fortunate to have been in a place spending light years more than any other team and gets to be in the national spotlight every year.
<< <i>You lamely try and compare him to some players as if that is proof. yes helton has the highest batting average among active players HE PLAYS in COORS FIELD! >>
Wait, you're saying that Helton gets to play all 162 games at COORS FIELD? What! When did this happen! He gets a special exemption how? Yes, the ball travels better in coors field, but you really think that's the only reason he's a career .335 batter? Idiot.
<< <i>Guererro is a power hitter, thus his OPS should be higher. >>
And his batting average is higher? So Guerrero is a power hitter with a higher batting average? Where's your comeback to that one, sparky?
<< <i>Pufols and Ichiro are not besting him in batting average. the guy is hitting 350. do some homework befor you come on here and tout 'proof' >>
First, it's Pujols. Second, I am talking CAREER batting average you dope, not a small, 2 month sample size. You should do YOUR homework, DOPE.
<< <i>Admit it, he does not get all this press you claim. he gets alot of it here that is for sure. Stop putting words into peoples mouths and twisting what they say in a lame attempt at trying to show that you know baseball. the truth of the matter is that you do not. >>
The truth of the matter is you are an idiot. You are a simple minded fellow who believes whatever the NY press shoves down your throat. You are so blindingly stupid that you can't see that a career batting average is a much better indicator than a 2 month aberration.
<< <i>And again you are quick to use God in a post yet at the same time your sig line claims one does not exist. Just typical of you. >>
Please show me where I said god? Oh wait, your moronic little brain sees jesus and god as the same, when, in fact, the stories show they are different entities. I'm not even religious and I know that, you dope!
God you are so easy to pick apart. You can't form a coherent statement, let alone one with multiple parts. You honestly should seek remedial reading classes IMMEDIATELY for your glaringly obvious grasp of the English language.
Good night, dope. Maybe tomorrow will be a better day for you. Because tonight, you've been absolutely destroyed.
Everyone of the statements you just made are flawed.
"like he did it all by himsel"f is a grade schoolers reply. helton playing all 162 games is yet another. typical bla bla bla, from someone that thinks he knows the game. And Dan is right, you first jumped on the Jeter is below average bandwagon, then when intelligent people like Boo made a decent presentation regarding media hype you jumped off the jeter sucks wagon and embraced the hype one. So prof. show us exactly where he gets all this so called hype? Is it (i'll make it easy for you) during October when his TEAM can usually be found in the P.O ( and yes he is only 1 of 25 guys) so he does not do it all by himself. perhaps you can finally put up or shutup?
Typical.
where did you say god?
well jeese louise you said it even in the latest reply.
how about the 2nd word of the post i was refering too?
Edited to add:
Oh I typed pufols, and of course you had to point that out.
Invariably Prof Axhole, when confronted with facts resorts to playing english teacher. Like that somehow proves his intellect. Showing where someone makes a typo is a lame attempt at it IMO.
Especially when he does it as much as anyone. Can you say Hipocrit?
Steve
edited yet again for typos as to not let the prof pick me apart for them.
Please show me where I said god? Oh wait, your moronic little brain sees jesus and god as the same, when, in fact, the stories show they are different entities. I'm not even religious and I know that, you dope!
here........... Thursday May 25, 2006 7:10 PM (NEW!)
Good god, quit saying he's the fastest yankee to 2000 hits
You make so many outlandish statements (lies) that you have no idea anymore what it is you actually say.
<< Guererro is a power hitter, thus his OPS should be higher. >> was my reply
you then chime in with:
And his batting average is higher? So Guerrero is a power hitter with a higher batting average? Where's your comeback to that one, sparky?
Ok, this is easy. First off OPS has NOTHING TO DO with batting average. It is a measure of ON BASE PCT and SLUGGING PCT. the 2 are added together. Thus the term O (for on base) P (for PLUS) and finally S (for slugging) Now I am left to wonder about all the posts you made in the past when you touted OPS. You did not even know what it means!! Yet you touted it like it was the most important stat.
This is why I made the simple reply that he is a power hitter. I'll help you again.........Slugging pct measures all hits but for each base you get the value. Again, to help you along a single is worth 1 a double 2 and so one.
Batting average does indeedy play a part of determining ops. At bats and hits, which figures batting average, are a key component of determining OPS.
When are you going to announce your theory as to why a huge disparity is good for baseball in the Royals thread? I see you've conveniently 'forgotten' about that stance, haven't you sparky?
I see that when you are proved wrong you resort to name calling.
jesus, god, and the holy spirit, are three seperate entities, not one.
Wrong
And as for the royals thread i made a post. No need to expand, especially when in this thread you have made quite a few statements that needed replies.
One thing that just occured to me.....how can Jeter be so overrated when there are SOOOOOOO many Jeter haters out there ? Wouldnt that alone be a sign of him not being overrated by the masses ?
"The other teams could make trouble for us if they win." -- Yogi Berra
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Good afternoon to you, sparky.
Yeah I guess a 352 average (that is 2nd in the league) 1 pct point behind the leader is a great indicator for being overrated.
he should be batting 400
Steve
75. Derek Jeter (31) .3139 R
76. Manny Ramirez (33) .3137 R
77. Hank Greenberg+ .3135 R
Others below Jeter on the career batting average list include: Hank Aaron, Pete Rose, Mickey Mantle, Ernie Banks George Brett, Robin Yount, Paul Molitor, Yaz, Al Kaline, Ryne Sandberg, Joe Morgan, Eddie Murray, and Dave Winfield.
I think everyone knows where I stand on this. Call Jeter overhyped by the media (not his fault) and that is your perspective, but overrated, you'll never convince me.
Over hyped? Sometimes
Over rated? NO
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You sound as bad as Spammy saying where Bernie ranked on the list of all time yankee players.
It's a reach, a stretch, and a grab to try to show how great Jeter is. He's a solid player, but worth the money he makes or the press he gets? Nah, not even close.
Vlad Guerrero is killing him in OPS, and has a career batting average of .324.
Pujols and Ichiro are both besting him by significant margins in BA.
And Todd Helton has the highest batting average of any active player.
What do these 4 great players have in common (other than having higher BA's than Jeter)?
All are making significantly less money and get significantly less national media coverage than mr. 'intangible' jeter.
<< <i>Axtell, you KNOW the reason why those other names are not mentioned. Notice how they say Jeter is the fastest Yankee behind Yankees amongst Yankee records! See, just like I say, to Yankee fans, there are NO other teams!!!!!!!!! >>
Hardcore, it must suck wiping all the $hit off of yourself every time you climb out of Axtell's a$$.
Say what you guys want, the more you try and knock Jeter down as some kind of every day run of the mill player, the more STUPID ya both look. The "reach" and "stretch" going on is the futile attempt to knock Jeter down as a run of the mill solid type guy. The proof has been presented and yet the jackals still cry. Also, nowhere did I or anybody else put Jeter on top of everybody like both Axtell and harda$$ would like all of us to believe.
IDIOTS
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<< <i>Axtell, you KNOW the reason why those other names are not mentioned. Notice how they say Jeter is the fastest Yankee behind Yankees amongst Yankee records! See, just like I say, to Yankee fans, there are NO other teams!!!!!!!!! >>
also, just for you ya dope, when you are talking about a team with 26 World Series championships IT IS NOTEWORTHY to be at or near the top of the heap with them all time wise. Sorry, but it is all sour grapes for you. Now that the Tigers have a awesome team for the first time in TWO generations all of the sudden hardcore climbs out of the woodwork with eyes full of tears
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And it takes a strong start for the Tigers for me to come on these boards? Look at my nickname hippy, I am a hockey fan before I am a baseball fan, oh, damn, perhaps I should not be able to post on a baseball topic, because I am misinformed, also note the month I signed up too. Oh, wait, I am a Wings fan, would you please remind me that they are not in the playoffs anymore this year? Please, because I need to hang onto past glories so I can feel great about my team. God, seeing them sweep the Capitals way back when was awesome. Seeing Yzerman hoist the Cup three times, woooooooo hooooooooooo! Was so great to see the Wings come back from team tragedies to win the Cup back to back! God, I wanna go back, and see it all over! BTW, just letting you know, again, this is sarcastic, have to remind some of you dolts, some of you cannot see it!!!!!!!!!!!!
first of all ...JACK MORRIS should be in the Hall. I would like your lame a$$ to point to ANYTHING that I ever said against JAck Morris's greatness. How the hell did you come up with that you IDIOT?
Secondly you a$$ hat, Jeter has been invoved in 15 fu$king PERCENT of those 26 World Championships. Not good enough? Of course not.
Thirdly, only Yankee fans are not allowed to look on the past with any awe. You bafoons would like to believe that the PAST never happened. It doesn't count. SHUT UP you IDIOT until you bring something with substance to the table
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NOBODY is trying to put Jeter on top of EVERYBODY. WHere the hell do you IDIOTS come up with this stuff. Does your empty head actually think that we are putting Jeter over EVERY God damned ball player that ever lived? No. What we ARE doing is slapping you idiots around like a rag doll who believe that Jeter somehow is a "average" player outside of NY.
Hardcore, you don't even know what the CRUX of this debate is about. Now if you really want to be a part of this debate do your FU$KING homework and STOP arguing about things that are not even on the table.
IDIOT
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1.....the reason jeter was compared to yankees is because he is a yankee and the info was readily available.
maybe ax and toiletbowl man can do a lil research and come back and inform us about other players.
2........I compared jeter with pete rose. It took rose 10 and a quarter years to reach 2000 hits. it has taken jeter 11 and a quarter.
does that satisfy you guys? i have used the guy who was the most prolific hitter in history.
If you want I will do it with atbats instead of years but any reasonable person will see that it took jeter 1 season longer then the best guy.
Steve
Where is all this press?
I think it is in your mind.
please show us where he gets all this press.
Is it during October whne his team is usually found in the playoffs? You keep saying he gets all this press yet not once have you shown any proof.
You lamely try and compare him to some players as if that is proof. yes helton has the highest batting average among active players HE PLAYS in COORS FIELD!
Guererro is a power hitter, thus his OPS should be higher.
Pufols and Ichiro are not besting him in batting average. the guy is hitting 350. do some homework befor you come on here and tout 'proof'
Admit it, he does not get all this press you claim. he gets alot of it here that is for sure. Stop putting words into peoples mouths and twisting what they say in a lame attempt at trying to show that you know baseball. the truth of the matter is that you do not.
And again you are quick to use God in a post yet at the same time your sig line claims one does not exist. Just typical of you.
In this post money is an issue, yet in another it isnt. You sure seem to talk out of both sides of your mouth, and EVERYONE sees it. believe me they do.
Steve
And toilet bowl just backs up anything Axtell says. He doesn't even know what the real arguement has been about becuase Axtell has twisted this whole thing from a "over hyped" by the media into a Jeter just is average propaganda. Toilet bowl is like the big gerbil that finally found its way up Axtell's chute. Unreal
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<< <i>
Is it during October whne his team is usually found in the playoffs? You keep saying he gets all this press yet not once have you shown any proof.
>>
Oh, he gets them there all on his own, doesn't he? Dope. He's been fortunate to have been in a place spending light years more than any other team and gets to be in the national spotlight every year.
<< <i>You lamely try and compare him to some players as if that is proof. yes helton has the highest batting average among active players HE PLAYS in COORS FIELD! >>
Wait, you're saying that Helton gets to play all 162 games at COORS FIELD? What! When did this happen! He gets a special exemption how? Yes, the ball travels better in coors field, but you really think that's the only reason he's a career .335 batter? Idiot.
<< <i>Guererro is a power hitter, thus his OPS should be higher. >>
And his batting average is higher? So Guerrero is a power hitter with a higher batting average? Where's your comeback to that one, sparky?
<< <i>Pufols and Ichiro are not besting him in batting average. the guy is hitting 350. do some homework befor you come on here and tout 'proof' >>
First, it's Pujols. Second, I am talking CAREER batting average you dope, not a small, 2 month sample size. You should do YOUR homework, DOPE.
<< <i>Admit it, he does not get all this press you claim. he gets alot of it here that is for sure. Stop putting words into peoples mouths and twisting what they say in a lame attempt at trying to show that you know baseball. the truth of the matter is that you do not. >>
The truth of the matter is you are an idiot. You are a simple minded fellow who believes whatever the NY press shoves down your throat. You are so blindingly stupid that you can't see that a career batting average is a much better indicator than a 2 month aberration.
<< <i>And again you are quick to use God in a post yet at the same time your sig line claims one does not exist. Just typical of you. >>
Please show me where I said god? Oh wait, your moronic little brain sees jesus and god as the same, when, in fact, the stories show they are different entities. I'm not even religious and I know that, you dope!
God you are so easy to pick apart. You can't form a coherent statement, let alone one with multiple parts. You honestly should seek remedial reading classes IMMEDIATELY for your glaringly obvious grasp of the English language.
Good night, dope. Maybe tomorrow will be a better day for you. Because tonight, you've been absolutely destroyed.
Everyone of the statements you just made are flawed.
"like he did it all by himsel"f is a grade schoolers reply. helton playing all 162 games is yet another. typical bla bla bla, from someone that thinks he knows the game. And Dan is right, you first jumped on the Jeter is below average bandwagon, then when intelligent people like Boo made a decent presentation regarding media hype you jumped off the jeter sucks wagon and embraced the hype one. So prof. show us exactly where he gets all this so called hype? Is it (i'll make it easy for you) during October when his TEAM can usually be found in the P.O ( and yes he is only 1 of 25 guys) so he does not do it all by himself. perhaps you can finally put up or shutup?
Typical.
where did you say god?
well jeese louise you said it even in the latest reply.
how about the 2nd word of the post i was refering too?
Edited to add:
Oh I typed pufols, and of course you had to point that out.
Invariably Prof Axhole, when confronted with facts resorts to playing english teacher. Like that somehow proves his intellect. Showing where someone makes a typo is a lame attempt at it IMO.
Especially when he does it as much as anyone. Can you say Hipocrit?
Steve
edited yet again for typos as to not let the prof pick me apart for them.
here........... Thursday May 25, 2006 7:10 PM (NEW!)
Good god, quit saying he's the fastest yankee to 2000 hits
You make so many outlandish statements (lies) that you have no idea anymore what it is you actually say.
Steve
you then chime in with:
And his batting average is higher? So Guerrero is a power hitter with a higher batting average? Where's your comeback to that one, sparky?
Ok, this is easy. First off OPS has NOTHING TO DO with batting average. It is a measure of ON BASE PCT and SLUGGING PCT. the 2 are added together. Thus the term O (for on base) P (for PLUS) and finally S (for slugging) Now I am left to wonder about all the posts you made in the past when you touted OPS. You did not even know what it means!! Yet you touted it like it was the most important stat.
This is why I made the simple reply that he is a power hitter. I'll help you again.........Slugging pct measures all hits but for each base you get the value. Again, to help you along a single is worth 1 a double 2 and so one.
Steve
You posted on this thread and have not replied? what gives?
Steve
LoL yeah and so does a billion catholics.
ever hear of the holy trinity?
Steve
Batting average does indeedy play a part of determining ops. At bats and hits, which figures batting average, are a key component of determining OPS.
When are you going to announce your theory as to why a huge disparity is good for baseball in the Royals thread? I see you've conveniently 'forgotten' about that stance, haven't you sparky?
Can you say 'owned'?
<< <i>Oh wait, your moronic little brain sees jesus and god as the same,
LoL yeah and so does a billion catholics.
ever hear of the holy trinity?
Steve >>
jesus, god, and the holy spirit, are three seperate entities, not one.
God is jesus' father. Or did you forget that part?
You are beyond stupid, you mindless little twit.
Batting average is not used in determining OPS.
I see that when you are proved wrong you resort to name calling.
jesus, god, and the holy spirit, are three seperate entities, not one.
Wrong
And as for the royals thread i made a post. No need to expand, especially when in this thread you have made quite a few statements that needed replies.
Steve
-- Yogi Berra