1957 Topps Baseball discussion

Buccaneer

Just sent off 132 cards for grading. I hope PSA got their measuring calipers oiled up.

BarkusD

PM or email me at Barkusd@gtlaw.com if you have any graded 57s for sale. If the price is right I am a buyer!

ArnyVee

Sheesh....I can't shake this Dave character! LOL

ArnyVee

Creepin' up slowly....three more cards added! Including the Dodgers Sluggers card and a couple of commons in PSA 7!

Bumps me up to #57 ranked....small step for Arny, giant leap for my collection!

Lothar52

keep at it bro...ONE CARD AT A TIME!!!! this set only has 407 cards..much easier then a 60's or 70's set

loth

Buccaneer

<< <i>

keep at it bro...ONE CARD AT A TIME!!!! this set only has 407 cards..much easier then a 60's or 70's set

loth >>



Unless one is doing this AND a 60s set.

ArnyVee

Or, in my case, when 'one' is doing this set and TWO 70s sets! Sheesh.

But, thanks for the atta boy! I made an 'off-eBay' deal, so that'll add about a half dozen cards in PSA 7 or so and my first PSA 8!

That should help me out...give me a nice boost. As always, if anyone is looking to deal their PSA 6 or affordable PSA 7s of the '57 set, drop me a PM!

Buccaneer

I was 6 for 13 on my snipes for the PSA 7s that rockbottomsports had up last night. I guess that's not too bad. Tonight are the 63s turn and so far I'm getting really good deals.

One of the dangers of doing both 1957 and 1963 is that there are quite a few players common to both sets, besides the obvious stars. I was going through my list and saw a 63 Bob Friend up and thought I had already gotten one. Come to realize it was the 57 Bob Friend that I had just picked up.

Buccaneer

In looking at the Registry standings, I notice that's there's significant gap between #20 and #21. People must like seeing their name on the front page. It also confirms that I'll likely never reach #20, not that it matters much.

ArnyVee

Buccaneer, just so you know, I was clicking on your sets to check 'em out and the '57 isn't linking over.

Buccaneer

I know, I only have limited number of characters for the sig before exceeding maximum number (can this be changed?). I went with the 61 and 63 for now. I think after I get my submission back, I'll link it up.

Lothar52

Buccaneer

Among the 8 psa7 cards I picked up last night, I got 2 SP for under $15. I think I was fortunate that rockbottom put this batch from his PSA 7 set all ending at the same time. Sniping is the only way to do something like this.

63% unofficially done and waiting for 132 cards to get graded soon.

ArnyVee

I picked up a couple of cards last night including a Mike Garcia PSA 6 and a PSA 7 common (Strickland) which brings me to a tie for 55th place. So, moved up a couple of notches.

Just keep swimmin'...just keep swimmin'....

ArnyVee

Added another 4 commons in PSA 7 and received my "gift" (thanks!) of two PSA 6 commons which brings me to a set rating of 0.30 (I know, I just started it! ) and puts me within spittin' distance of the 52nd spot. Slowly but surely....

ArnyVee

Won two more cards last night which bumped my lil' set to #53 overall and just behind #52.

My stats are currently 6.31 5.16% 0.33. (For me to keep historical track, of course )

ArnyVee

Added another 5 cards that I won (1 PSA 6, 3 PSA 7's & 1 PSA 8) to bring my growing collection to the 52nd overall spot!

I'm doing a lot better with these commons than I originally thought I would. 7s are going for less than $15 and those 6s are less than $8. Good stuff so far! I'm not even thinkin' of the cards for Mantle, Williams, Brooks & Frank Robby, Koufax, Drysdale....sheesh...gonna be some tough ones and big money to complete this sucker!

Buccaneer

Sometimes I just don't know where the prices are. Last Saturday, I picked up (8) PSA 7 including (4) PSA 7 SP for 35-55% SMR. Other times I would be lucky to get them for 75% SMR.

ArnyVee, please remember that the Registry is not a competition except with one's self. It is the quality and joy of building sets (esp. this great one) that means most, not where one ranks.

ArnyVee

I'm just trying to keep myself motivated to keep going and to have a place to keep track of my progress. I hope that I'm not comin' off like some guy that just wants to win the competition or something. If that was the case, I would've never have started to build this set. I can't compete with those big boys at the top. With the 1972 set, I had Dave Barkus to compete with and we kept each other motivated and have helped each other out with cards on several occasions. Just tryin' to get things going here with the '57 set.

Buccaneer

<< <i>Added another 5 cards that I won (1 PSA 6, 3 PSA 7's & 1 PSA 8) to bring my growing collection to the 52nd overall spot!

I'm doing a lot better with these commons than I originally thought I would. 7s are going for less than $15 and those 6s are less than $8. Good stuff so far! I'm not even thinkin' of the cards for Mantle, Williams, Brooks & Frank Robby, Koufax, Drysdale....sheesh...gonna be some tough ones and big money to complete this sucker! >>



Which was why I dropped down to the PSA 6-7 target for this set last year. When I saw the going prices for the Mantle, Williams and Mantle/Berra in PSA 7 (esp. nicely centered ones), I thought no way I could do that. But as you saw at the start of this thread, I picked up some really nice PSA 6 stars that were clearly better than many PSA 7 that I have seen.

ArnyVee

Well, three more cards picked up last night (PSA 6 E.Slaughter & 2 PSA 7s) brings me to a tie for 51st place overall! Climbing the list steadily. And, I've been doing it all at 50% of SMR which is great!

ArnyVee

I added a few cards that I picked up in a trade and now I'm sitting in 50th!

I've still been picking up commons in 7s for less than $13 each. I'm sure as I get further into the set I'll have to end up spending more per card, but at this point it has been rather affordable compared to what I'd thought it would run.

LOL...I'm saying that now before spending on those star cards.

Buccaneer

I almost pulled the trigger on this very nicely centered 57 BRobinson PSA 7 from legacy but I really got to finish my 61 AS set so I can sell it.

ArnyVee

Wow, that was definitely a very nice Brooks Robinson rookie! Wow....I'd love to own that one. Someday....

Buccaneer

Earlier in this thread, I talked about my bad luck with getting and holding on to the 57 Clemente card. Well, I just got one from a favorite dealer (alan munson) and I hope the third time is the charm...

ArnyVee

Not a bad Clemente Buccaneer. Congrats.

Buccaneer

You are not going to believe these grades. Nearly all of these cards were bought at the Ex/Mt price from $3-6; and a majority of them came back as PSA 7 (and a couple PSA 8 )! There were a few clunkers, which were expected, but once again - PSA failed to follow directions of "No Qualifiers" despite it being printed on every label.

1 31285087 1957 TOPPS 3 DALE LONG N/A 7
2 31285088 1957 TOPPS 4 JOHNNY LOGAN N/A 6
3 31285089 1957 TOPPS 5 SAL MAGLIE N/A 6
4 31285090 1957 TOPPS 6 HECTOR LOPEZ N/A 7
5 31285091 1957 TOPPS 8 DON MOSSI N/A 6
6 31285092 1957 TOPPS 9 JOHNNY TEMPLE N/A 6
7 31285093 1957 TOPPS 11 GEORGE ZUVERINK N/A 7
8 31285094 1957 TOPPS 12 DICK GROAT N/A 7
9 31285095 1957 TOPPS 14 BOB NIEMAN N/A 7
10 31285096 1957 TOPPS 19 BOB WILSON N/A 7
11 31285097 1957 TOPPS 21 FRANK SULLIVAN N/A 6
12 31285098 1957 TOPPS 23 SHERM LOLLAR N/A 6
13 31285099 1957 TOPPS 26 BOB BOYD N/A 6
14 31285100 1957 TOPPS 27 TED KAZANSKI N/A 7
15 31285101 1957 TOPPS 28 GENE CONLEY N/A 6
16 31285102 1957 TOPPS 29 WHITEY HERZOG N/A 7
17 31285103 1957 TOPPS 31 RON NORTHEY N/A 7
18 31285104 1957 TOPPS 32 HERSH FREEMAN N/A 6
19 31285105 1957 TOPPS 37 FRANK TORRE N/A 6
20 31285106 1957 TOPPS 39 AL WORTHINGTON N/A 7
21 31285107 1957 TOPPS 42 DEE FONDY N/A 6
22 31285108 1957 TOPPS 43 CONNIE JOHNSON N/A 7
23 31285109 1957 TOPPS 44 JOE DeMAESTRI N/A 6
24 31285110 1957 TOPPS 46 BOB MILLER N/A 8
25 31285111 1957 TOPPS 48 BILL BRUTON N/A 6
26 31285112 1957 TOPPS 49 DARYL SPENCER N/A 7
27 31285113 1957 TOPPS 50 HERB SCORE N/A 6
28 31285114 1957 TOPPS 51 CLINT COURTNEY N/A 7
29 31285115 1957 TOPPS 53 CLEM LABINE N/A 7
30 31285116 1957 TOPPS 56 DAVE SISLER N/A 5
31 31285117 1957 TOPPS 57 JIM LEMON N/A 7
32 31285118 1957 TOPPS 61 DUSTY RHODES N/A 7
33 31285119 1957 TOPPS 64 PETE RUNNELS N/A 7
34 31285120 1957 TOPPS 65 WALLY MOON N/A 6
35 31285121 1957 TOPPS 66 BROOKS LAWRENCE N/A 7
36 31285122 1957 TOPPS 67 CHICO CARRASQUEL N/A 7
37 31285123 1957 TOPPS 68 RAY CRONE N/A 6
38 31285124 1957 TOPPS 69 ROY McMILLAN N/A 6
39 31285125 1957 TOPPS 71 MURRY DICKSON N/A 6
40 31285126 1957 TOPPS 72 BILL TUTTLE N/A 6
41 31285127 1957 TOPPS 74 VITO VALENTINETTI N/A 6
42 31285128 1957 TOPPS 75 JIM PIERSALL N/A 6
43 31285129 1957 TOPPS 77 PAUL FOYTACK N/A 7
44 31285130 1957 TOPPS 78 VIC WERTZ N/A 6ST
45 31285131 1957 TOPPS 79 LINDY McDANIEL N/A 7
46 31285132 1957 TOPPS 83 LOU SKIZAS N/A 7
47 31285133 1957 TOPPS 84 MOE DRABOWSKY N/A 6ST
48 31285134 1957 TOPPS 87 TOM GORMAN N/A 7
49 31285135 1957 TOPPS 88 HARVEY KUENN N/A 6
50 31285136 1957 TOPPS 91 MACK BURK N/A 7
51 31285137 1957 TOPPS 92 MICKEY VERNON N/A 6
52 31285138 1957 TOPPS 96 HANK AGUIRRE N/A 5
53 31285139 1957 TOPPS 99 BOB KEEGAN N/A 6
54 31285140 1957 TOPPS 101 CHUCK STOBBS N/A 7
55 31285141 1957 TOPPS 102 RAY BOONE N/A 7
56 31285142 1957 TOPPS 103 JOE NUXHALL N/A 6
57 31285143 1957 TOPPS 104 HANK FOILES N/A 7
58 31285144 1957 TOPPS 105 JOHNNY ANTONELLI N/A 7
59 31285145 1957 TOPPS 107 JIM RIVERA N/A 7
60 31285146 1957 TOPPS 109 HANK THOMPSON N/A 8ST
61 31285147 1957 TOPPS 110 BILL VIRDON N/A 7
62 31285148 1957 TOPPS 111 HAL SMITH N/A 7
63 31285149 1957 TOPPS 116 MIKE FORNIELES N/A 6
64 31285150 1957 TOPPS 117 JOE AD---- N/A 7ST
65 31285151 1957 TOPPS 121 CLETIS BOYER N/A 6
66 31285152 1957 TOPPS 123 STEVE RIDZIK N/A 7
67 31285153 1957 TOPPS 126 BOB WIESLER N/A 7
68 31285154 1957 TOPPS 127 BOB BUHL N/A 6
69 31285155 1957 TOPPS 128 ED BAILEY N/A 6
70 31285156 1957 TOPPS 132 ART DITMAR N/A 5
71 31285157 1957 TOPPS 133 DEL CRANDALL N/A 3
72 31285158 1957 TOPPS 144 RAY NARLESKI N/A 6
73 31285159 1957 TOPPS 145 AL SMITH N/A 6
74 31285160 1957 TOPPS 147 AL WALKER N/A 6
75 31285161 1957 TOPPS 151 WILLIE MIRANDA N/A 6
76 31285162 1957 TOPPS 152 JACK HARSHMAN N/A 7
77 31285163 1957 TOPPS 153 KARL OLSON N/A 6
78 31285164 1957 TOPPS 155 JIM BROSNAN N/A 5
79 31285165 1957 TOPPS 163 SAMMY WHITE N/A 5
80 31285166 1957 TOPPS 166 ROY FACE N/A 6
81 31285167 1957 TOPPS 167 VIC POWER N/A 7
82 31285168 1957 TOPPS 173 ROGER CRAIG N/A 8OC
83 31285169 1957 TOPPS 174 WILLIE JONES N/A 6
84 31285170 1957 TOPPS 176 GENE BAKER N/A 6
85 31285171 1957 TOPPS 177 EDDIE YOST N/A 7ST
86 31285172 1957 TOPPS 178 DON BESSENT N/A 5
87 31285173 1957 TOPPS 179 ERNIE ORAVETZ N/A 6
88 31285174 1957 TOPPS 180 GUS BELL N/A 6
89 31285175 1957 TOPPS 181 DICK DONOVAN N/A 7
90 31285176 1957 TOPPS 190 RANDY JACKSON N/A 6
91 31285177 1957 TOPPS 191 JOE MARGONERI N/A 6
92 31285178 1957 TOPPS 192 JERRY COLEMAN N/A 8
93 31285179 1957 TOPPS 197 HANK SAUER N/A 6
94 31285180 1957 TOPPS 202 DICK GERNERT N/A 8OC
95 31285181 1957 TOPPS 204 A'S TEAM N/A 6
96 31285182 1957 TOPPS 206 WILLARD SCHMIDT N/A 7
97 31285183 1957 TOPPS 209 BOB SKINNER N/A 7
98 31285184 1957 TOPPS 211 CAMILO PASCUAL N/A 7
99 31285185 1957 TOPPS 213 LES MOSS N/A 7
100 31285186 1957 TOPPS 214 PHILLIES TEAM N/A 7ST
101 31285187 1957 TOPPS 216 MARV GRISSOM N/A 6
102 31285188 1957 TOPPS 221 DIXIE HOWELL N/A 7
103 31285189 1957 TOPPS 223 FRANK HOUSE N/A 5
104 31285190 1957 TOPPS 228 SMOKY BURGESS N/A 6ST
105 31285191 1957 TOPPS 229 GEORGE SUSCE N/A 7
106 31285192 1957 TOPPS 232 WHITEY LOCKMAN N/A 7
107 31285193 1957 TOPPS 234 DICK COLE N/A 6
108 31285194 1957 TOPPS 243 CARDINALS TEAM N/A 6
109 31285195 1957 TOPPS 244 BILLY LOES N/A 6
110 31285196 1957 TOPPS 248 JIM FINIGAN N/A 7
111 31285197 1957 TOPPS 249 DAVE POPE N/A 7
112 31285198 1957 TOPPS 254 RON NEGRAY N/A 6
113 31285199 1957 TOPPS 260 DEL ENNIS N/A 7
114 31285200 1957 TOPPS 263 GEORGE STRICKLAND N/A 7
115 31285201 1957 TOPPS 281 GAIL HARRIS N/A 7
116 31285202 1957 TOPPS 288 TED LEPCIO N/A 7ST
117 31285203 1957 TOPPS 290 ANDY CAREY N/A 6
118 31285204 1957 TOPPS 299 CHUCK HARMON N/A 7
119 31285205 1957 TOPPS 318 MICKEY McDERMOTT N/A 7
120 31285206 1957 TOPPS 357 EARL TORGESON N/A 7
121 31285207 1957 TOPPS 358 JERRY LYNCH N/A 7
122 31285208 1957 TOPPS 359 TOM CHENEY N/A 7
123 31285209 1957 TOPPS 360 JOHNNY GROTH N/A 7
124 31285210 1957 TOPPS 367 ED FITZGERALD N/A 7
125 31285211 1957 TOPPS 376 DON ELSTON N/A 6
126 31285212 1957 TOPPS 377 ANDRE RODGERS N/A 7
127 31285213 1957 TOPPS 381 DEAN STONE N/A 6
128 31285214 1957 TOPPS 385 ART HOUTTEMAN N/A 6
129 31285215 1957 TOPPS 395 BUBBA PHILLIPS N/A 7
130 31285216 1957 TOPPS 399 BILLY CONSOLO N/A 6
131 31285217 1957 TOPPS 403 DICK HYDE N/A 6
132 31285218 1957 TOPPS 406 BOB HALE N/A 7

Date Received: 10/03/2005
Date of Grades Posted: 10/14/2005
Date Shipped: 10/14/2005

SUMMARY (TOTAL 132):

PSA 8: 2
PSA 7: 58
PSA 6: 54
PSA <6: 8
PSA NOT FOLLOW DIRECTIONS: 10

Buccaneer

The ones I was sweating about were the (5) SP: 281, 288, 290, 299 and 318, which I paid more than $6 for. Nailed 4 of them, which ain't bad.

ArnyVee

Buccaneer, do you have any available for trade or sale?

Buccaneer

What do you guys think of this set and the price it's up to? With only about 60 cards graded (ranging from 6-8) and commons Ex-Nmmt, it seems encouraging to see that it could get close to $9,000 (but probably not meet reserve).

Buccaneer

Looks like it's relisted for the 3rd time. Last time it got up to $8,600 not meeting reserve (and a bin of $14,000+). Now it has a bin of $9,000.

ArnyVee

Hmm...a little shady.

Buccaneer, do you have any '57s available from the ones that you upgraded or extras from your submissions?

Buccaneer

No, sorry. I'll be selling all of the 5s and Qualifiers in one big lot. The rest are not dupes.

Lothar52

Hey guys, how is everybody's sets coming?? i am down to about 10-15 cards to upgrade to better centered copies, and still need to have raw graded.

Loth

Buccaneer

After completing the 61 All-Stars set in October and finished selling everything I wanted to sell, I have been taking a much deserved break in November and December (and playing a lot of Civ4).

Last I checked, my 1957 Set was 61% complete and sitting at #30 or so. Not sure if I'll buy cards for myself as my Christmas gift but usually I start buying a lot around my birthday at the end of January. I do think I'll be able to finish the 57 set in 2006.

By the way, do any of you think the 2006 Heritage might have any impact on the 57 cards?

CDC4

I think that will affect the market for 57's I'm not sure to what affect but I am excited to see the 2006 heritage this year.

Davalillo

1957 Topps was the first set I collected growing up and it is still one of my favorites.
Need 5 upgrades and 3 holes to fill to complete the set in psa 8 or better. Currently rate 12th(ugh!) with 7.92 but have some 8s on the way. Goal is 8.02 to pass that guy Steve with all the "excellent" sets.
I my mind, Frank Evanov(Mantlefan) is the king of the 59s and my friend although I may never sell him my psa 9 Kluzewski. Gary Moser sold that to me 8 years ago for $40--has to be a $2,500 card or more now. Hmmm, what will it take to win the psa 8 Garcia on ebay??????

Dav

Davalillo

Yes-big win last night on ebay as I won the Garcia in psa 8 for just under $1,000. I believe this is the lowest pop card in 8 in the set. Was kicking myself earlier that I passed on an offer to buy the Garcia from Frank. Hopefully final 7 will not be as expensive and I can look forward to completing this baby in the first half of 2006.

Jim

Mantlefan

Congrats on picking up the Garcia, Jim...that was the final card I needed for my set. Garcia is traditionally the most expensive common in this set, although the Hector Lopez card has been going for big bucks lately.

QUIK

This Garcia card Jim just won came from a card shop in cleveland the buyer paid $20 he told me. I looked at the card before he had it graded at the recent chicago show and he knows im bulding this set (already have 2 Garcia 8's) His name i forget but he is always very nice and must be a friend of MHCC. Just thought i would share Jeff OH i think its a very nice card and fair price i offered him 800 if it made an 8 and he thought he could do better he was right

CDC4

I put my order in for a case of 2006 Heritage at my local hobby shop. I'm pretty excited to get it.
Counting down the days.

Lothar52

my set is ALMOST complete give or take 10 centering upgrades and having around 10 raw cards graded... THe set is about 50% 6, 45% 7, 4% 5, and 1% 8 (just about 4 8's). My 6's look like great 7's and my 7's are solid 7's. Only reason i keep the 5's is that bar none i cant find out why they are not 7's...and they are dead on centered. The Drysdale and Bunning are both 50/50 and look like great 6-7 cards in 5 holders lol. Someday when i get all my cards in psa holders and everything ready to go ill introduce my set to the registry....until then im leaving it off. I have quite a few gorgeous SGC and GAI 57's that im in turmoil about.....do i get them crossed over just to do it?? or ??? Its a tough call.....
loth

ArnyVee

Well, I'm WAY down the list of sets, but I've picked up about a dozen commons at less than 50% of SMR in the last week or so and snuck into 47th place

QUIK

Lothar send me your list again please > Jeff

ArnyVee

Quik, did you not pull that big trade you were referring to before? If not, are you still interested in trading for some of your 6s or 7s?

Lothar52

arny is that a picture of you in the logo section?

Stingray

I think it is the guy from Office Space and Dodge Ball.



Stingray

ArnyVee

Actually, it's a picture of the guy from the original British version of the NBC sitcom THE OFFICE.

He is the most hilarious guy out there! He co-wrote the show and the original series went for two seasons on British TV along with a finale Christmas Special. I'm not too much of a fan of British type comedy, but this show was spectacular. So much so, that I can't even watch the new series (although it's getting good reviews and all) because it is just a step under the first version. If anyone has a chance, pick up the DVDs or even just rent them.

Link to THE OFFICE official page

Stingray

Opps, I could have sworn it was that other guy!

Stingray

ArnyVee

Wow....I think that I might have to pick up a few boxes or even a case of this stuff. Looks nice already!

2006 Heritage Pics!