haha yeah he's 'back' with another shortened outing...barely went 5 against KC, gives up 7 (!) in 3 1/3 against Toronto today.
2-2 with a 4.63...sounds a lot like last year's abysmal start...will he have another rebound in him, where it takes him until September to pitch well again?
I doubt it...I'd be willing to bet he hangs it up after this year.
The thread that would not die - and another chapter gets added to the Big Useless Yankee story. Not sure what people expected from him at this point (his age and nagging injuries have been catching up with him for the last few years) but even I didn't think he would be this bad.
<< <i>The thread that would not die - and another chapter gets added to the Big Useless Yankee story. Not sure what people expected from him at this point (his age and nagging injuries have been catching up with him for the last few years) but even I didn't think he would be this bad. >>
I got the Yankees today at -142 at a place that deals sloppy lines. Loved the line value, but wasn't so hot on laying the chalk-- especially in MLB. This game illustrates why.
Hey Ax, I bet he will be there to answer the critics unlike the spineless sap that you are when called out. >>
Hey sparky, I did answer those threads, but they simply became an excuse to pile on the insults on me for posting an unpopular stance, so therefore no further posts were going to come from me. Good to see YOU can't let sleeping dogs lie, ya twit.
And Randy will be there to answer the critics? You mean like how he threw a cameraman out of the way last year before pitching a game?
Chacon is doing amazing things too, just like you predicted. Good thing you guys have him to wipe up big unit's big messes.
<< <i>The thread that would not die - and another chapter gets added to the Big Useless Yankee story. Not sure what people expected from him at this point (his age and nagging injuries have been catching up with him for the last few years) but even I didn't think he would be this bad. >>
I got the Yankees today at -142 at a place that deals sloppy lines. Loved the line value, but wasn't so hot on laying the chalk-- especially in MLB. This game illustrates why. >>
hindsight's 20/20, but arbitrage would have been nice with that bad line
<< <i>The thread that would not die - and another chapter gets added to the Big Useless Yankee story. Not sure what people expected from him at this point (his age and nagging injuries have been catching up with him for the last few years) but even I didn't think he would be this bad. >>
I got the Yankees today at -142 at a place that deals sloppy lines. Loved the line value, but wasn't so hot on laying the chalk-- especially in MLB. This game illustrates why. >>
hindsight's 20/20, but arbitrage would have been nice with that bad line >>
I considered that, since the buyback would have been +EV, but in cases like this I usually like to let the bet stand UNLESS I've overextended myself on the original bet (and that only happens when I'm anticipating a line move), the logic being that the value of the bet alone is greater than the value of the scalp. In any case, the greater tragedy is that I did not get down on the overnight when the Bucks were -1 against the Pistons, or last night when Philly was still -1.5 against the Nets. Talk about buyback, both those lines steamed up to the -5, -6 range before tip.
<< <i>yeah both those nba lines were crazy... the wizards just went from -2 to -6.5 in about 3 minutes... betting is fun >>
I'm usually on top of these late season moves but I fell asleep at the wheel the past couple days Time to make up for it betting against the Pistons in the 1Q for the playoffs!
The guy tosses a bad game and he's all washed up, eh?
Johnson has also tossed a couple awesome games this year...its early and he is a slow starter. Don't worry kids, he'll be throwing a lot more great games!(barring injury, of course) It's all a bunch of dreaming, hoping, and wishing that he will fail.
And on a side note to that game...Johnny Damon's defense was nothing short of spectacular. No, it didnt make the difference in a win or a loss and though he was 0/5 tonight, he has been doing everything he has been expected to do. Worth the money? YES...and Boston fans know it more than anyone cuz they would have been happy if the Red Sox would have ponied up the same money to keep him.
And go ahead and pounce on Giambi...but how many teams have a guy with an OBP of over .500? The guy knows how to get on base...makes up for that horrible throwing arm!
Funny how these names disappear when they are doing well.
Just like we will watch "King Felix" unfold with his brilliant ERA of 6+ and all the money they spent on a mediocre pitcher in Washburn with his 5.00 ERA...are they both done?
If you think Johnson is done, then what do you say about King Felix and Washburn?
Yes, Axhole, Im sure you can say a lot...but you'll come up with some sort of anti-yankees propoganda that will hold no validity as always.
"King" Felix may not be anywhere near 40 but he is not anywhere near a proven pitcher either. So take that stupid "King" before his name Ax and shove it up your a$$. Cy Young Until he is a proven pitcher he is BUS BOY Felix.
And Wasburn we all know is just a mediocre pitcher AT BEST.
I'm a Blue Jays fan through and through and I enjoyed the game last night, but Johnson always seems to get rocked at the SkyDome (now known as the Rogers Centre). I respect the Yankees very much though. I was sitting on pins and needles the whole game, even when the Jays had a five-run lead and B.J. Ryan in. That Yanks lineup is explosive. The Jays are going to be better this year. They're a pesky bunch and love playing for John Gibbons. I'm really looking forward to this weekend, when for the first time this year, the Jays will have A.J. Burnett and Roy Halladay starting back to back. The AL East is going to be interesting. My suspicion is that the Yanks will still win the division and that the AL Wild Card is going to come down to Boston, Toronto and Cleveland.
Would that be the yankees (with the highest payroll in MLB - by a landslide I might add) in last place and the only team with a LOOSING record in the AL East?
<< <i>"King" Felix may not be anywhere near 40 but he is not anywhere near a proven pitcher either. So take that stupid "King" before his name Ax and shove it up your a$$. >>
Jealous much? Your post screams 'I wish King Felix was a Yankee!' Must suck to be you, sparky.
<< <i>Cy Young Until he is a proven pitcher he is BUS BOY Felix. >>
Even if he pitches this way all year (he won't), you and I both know he'd be better than any of the over the hill, overpaid, overrated stiffs pitching in pinstripes!
<< <i>And Wasburn we all know is just a mediocre pitcher AT BEST. >>
And he's better than anyone wearing pinstripes this year, too!
Get lost, son. Grownups are talking baseball here.
Ax, you wouldn't know a baseball from a bowling ball. Only idiots like yourself make determinations on a season in EARLY APRIL. As with every thread, adults have great debate until you poison everything with your propaganda. Now, get back to the thread in which you were absolutley DISMANTLED and try and answer for yourself. Stop with the "pile on" excuses too. You just can't back up what you say thats all and you get called out. Then you cry like a little bitSh about pile ons
<< <i>Ax, you wouldn't know a baseball from a bowling ball. Only idiots like yourself make determinations on a season in EARLY APRIL. As with every thread, adults have great debate until you poison everything with your propaganda. Now, get back to the thread in which you were absolutley DISMANTLED and try and answer for yourself. Stop with the "pile on" excuses too. You just can't back up what you say thats all and you get called out. Then you cry like a little bitSh about pile ons >>
The only bit*h here is YOU, you dope.
Who was making a determination? I simply said Unit was DONE, that's not a determination, that's fact. I know it HURTS, and it SUCKS for people like you who think that 40 something pitchers are commonplace, but he's done.
Dismantled? I can't help it if people don't want to look outside the realm of what is handfed to them. People like YOU, for example, can't explain why, if a jumbo jet slammed into the pentagon, there is only a 16 foot hole on the other side of the inner ring...surely you don't think a jet did that, did you?
If so, I have some ocean front property in Arizona I am sure you'd love!
Open your eyes you dope...you've been fooled (though it's not the first time I've handed your ass back to you). Now scram, chump, before I shred you yet again.
Ax, its not my fault that you run and hide when called out. There were demands made that you substantiate your "claims" and as usual, you failed to do so. Instead, you choose the sissy road of crying that you are being piled on.
<< <i>and Boston fans know it more than anyone cuz they would have been happy if the Red Sox would have ponied up the same money to keep him. >>
Uh, no. Not even close. If the Sox had paid $52 million for Damon at this stage in his career, Red Sox fans would have been unhappy - believe me. The Sox made the $40 million offer only because they knew he wouldn't take it, and it allowed them to save face. From this point forward, the Sox are a much better team with Crisp in CF - and Damon will just continue to break down.
<< <i>and Boston fans know it more than anyone cuz they would have been happy if the Red Sox would have ponied up the same money to keep him. >>
Uh, no. Not even close. If the Sox had paid $52 million for Damon at this stage in his career, Red Sox fans would have been unhappy - believe me. The Sox made the $40 million offer only because they knew he wouldn't take it, and it allowed them to save face. From this point forward, the Sox are a much better team with Crisp in CF - and Damon will just continue to break down. >>
Even the Red Sox said that they had made the 10/year offer and were surprised when Damon signed with the Yankees. What did that tell us? That Red Sox probably were going to pay more if given the chance.
Red Sox didnt know they were going to get Crisp. We all heard how angry Red Sox nation was when Damon left...so I believe Red Sox fans would have been perfectly happy paying him what the Yanks are and then some!
It's easy to be happy having Crisp now that the Red Sox have him.
Axhole, the only diluted person is your sorry a$$.
<< <i>Given the Red Sox said that they had made the 10/year offer and were surprised when Damon signed with the Yankees. What did that tell us? That Red Sox probably were going to pay more if given the chance. >>
What, are you a red sox insider or something? You don't think they told that story to save face? Please, if they want to offer $13 mill a year, they would have. But why offer an over the hill, aging, rubber armed center fielder that kind of dough? They offered 10, and knew the yankees, in a typical fit of jealous fervor, would up the ante, and think they won a prize. A boobie prize, perhaps!
<< <i>Red Sox didnt know they were going to get Crisp. We all heard how angry Red Sox nation was when Damon left...so I believe Red Sox fans would have been perfectly happy paying him what the Yanks are and then some! >>
Well it's a good thing fans don't run the team, isn't it.
<< <i>It's easy to be happy having Crisp now that the Red Sox have him.
Axhole, the only diluted person is your sorry a$$. >>
Hahah diluted? I'm watered down? Don't you mean deluded, ya dope? I can't believe yankee fans are still under the mistaken impression they got a good deal in Damon at $13 million per year. Well, I guess when you are used to contracts like Kevin Brown's, anything's a steal!
<< <i>Red Sox didnt know they were going to get Crisp. >>
Maybe not, but Theo Epstein identified him in the middle of last season as a player he would love to have play for the Sox. Damon heard about this, which is why he made comments towards the end of last season about how the team "didn't want him anymore", and when he took the Yankees offer, how the Sox could "go get their man now". Don't think for a minute that the Damon signing was a failure by the Boston front office - it actually was the beginning of the perfectly designed plan to replace him with a younger, more athletic player.
If that was the case, why would they have offered Damon 10/year to begin with? That was a very legit offer. Wouldnt it have been easier for the Red Sox to say "no thank you" to Damon and not offer him a contract than to give a legit offer? They seemed they would have been much more than content to keep Damon.
<< <i>If that was the case, why would they have offered Damon 10/year to begin with? That was a very legit offer. Wouldnt it have been easier for the Red Sox to say "no thank you" to Damon and not offer him a contract than to give a legit offer? They seemed they would have been much more than content to keep Damon.
I guess the world will never know! >>
Damon was wildly popular in Boston, of course. There was no way the Sox front office could not tender him an offer, and a "legit" one at that - the fans would have seen right through it. The offer was made to save face by the front office, but they knew it was an offer that would be topped - and no tears were shed when it was.
How many of you remember when the Sox offered B Williams a 7 year deal back in 98 for about $75 mil? George caught wind of this and turned around and offered him a 7 yr close to $90 mil deal, needless to say, he stayed in NY. The last two years of his contract he was paid $13mil for less than mediocre performance. Mark my words, you heard it here first, Damon will be that same player the last 2 years of this contract that Williams was the last 2 years of his contract. Then we will see if it was money well spent.
you make it sound like the yanks and queen george have NEVER overpaid for an aging, underperforming veteran before - hell, half your roster is guys just like that!
You are in such a rush to make it seem like the yankees 'pulled one over' on the red sox, when, in fact, the opposite is true.
Class is out. You are excused. Now run home and tell your mommy what you learned in class today.
So I see you refute nothing, so you acknowledge that Damon was no great loss by the Red Sox, and that he was yet another overpriced vet signed by the Yanks.
Look, admitting you're wrong is the first step to enlightenment. Perhaps if you admit more yankee moves stink, you'll be a better person.
At this point, you are the only person on this board that I have no need to refute anything. Why? Because you know nothing about baseball. Youre a monkey in a man's world.
<< <i> Mark my words, you heard it here first, Damon will be that same player the last 2 years of this contract that Williams was the last 2 years of his contract. Then we will see if it was money well spent. >>
I dunno, Duquette said the same thing about Clemens.
Of course, at the time, not many knew that Clemens would only get better with age. He could probably play until he's 50 if he wanted to.
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2-2 with a 4.63...sounds a lot like last year's abysmal start...will he have another rebound in him, where it takes him until September to pitch well again?
I doubt it...I'd be willing to bet he hangs it up after this year.
Hey Ax, I bet he will be there to answer the critics unlike the spineless sap that you are when called out.
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<< <i>The thread that would not die - and another chapter gets added to the Big Useless Yankee story. Not sure what people expected from him at this point (his age and nagging injuries have been catching up with him for the last few years) but even I didn't think he would be this bad. >>
I got the Yankees today at -142 at a place that deals sloppy lines. Loved the line value, but wasn't so hot on laying the chalk-- especially in MLB. This game illustrates why.
<< <i>Randy STUNK tonight! Whooo Hoooo!
Hey Ax, I bet he will be there to answer the critics unlike the spineless sap that you are when called out. >>
Hey sparky, I did answer those threads, but they simply became an excuse to pile on the insults on me for posting an unpopular stance, so therefore no further posts were going to come from me. Good to see YOU can't let sleeping dogs lie, ya twit.
And Randy will be there to answer the critics? You mean like how he threw a cameraman out of the way last year before pitching a game?
Chacon is doing amazing things too, just like you predicted. Good thing you guys have him to wipe up big unit's big messes.
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<< <i>The thread that would not die - and another chapter gets added to the Big Useless Yankee story. Not sure what people expected from him at this point (his age and nagging injuries have been catching up with him for the last few years) but even I didn't think he would be this bad. >>
I got the Yankees today at -142 at a place that deals sloppy lines. Loved the line value, but wasn't so hot on laying the chalk-- especially in MLB. This game illustrates why. >>
hindsight's 20/20, but arbitrage would have been nice with that bad line
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Chacon is doing amazing things too, just like you predicted. >>
As is "wonder boy" Felix and those amazing Marlins.
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<< <i>The thread that would not die - and another chapter gets added to the Big Useless Yankee story. Not sure what people expected from him at this point (his age and nagging injuries have been catching up with him for the last few years) but even I didn't think he would be this bad. >>
I got the Yankees today at -142 at a place that deals sloppy lines. Loved the line value, but wasn't so hot on laying the chalk-- especially in MLB. This game illustrates why. >>
hindsight's 20/20, but arbitrage would have been nice with that bad line >>
I considered that, since the buyback would have been +EV, but in cases like this I usually like to let the bet stand UNLESS I've overextended myself on the original bet (and that only happens when I'm anticipating a line move), the logic being that the value of the bet alone is greater than the value of the scalp. In any case, the greater tragedy is that I did not get down on the overnight when the Bucks were -1 against the Pistons, or last night when Philly was still -1.5 against the Nets. Talk about buyback, both those lines steamed up to the -5, -6 range before tip.
the heat/celtics over was 175 for -105 it's now -267 for over
<< <i>yeah both those nba lines were crazy... the wizards just went from -2 to -6.5 in about 3 minutes... betting is fun
I'm usually on top of these late season moves but I fell asleep at the wheel the past couple days
Johnson has also tossed a couple awesome games this year...its early and he is a slow starter. Don't worry kids, he'll be throwing a lot more great games!(barring injury, of course) It's all a bunch of dreaming, hoping, and wishing that he will fail.
And on a side note to that game...Johnny Damon's defense was nothing short of spectacular. No, it didnt make the difference in a win or a loss and though he was 0/5 tonight, he has been doing everything he has been expected to do. Worth the money? YES...and Boston fans know it more than anyone cuz they would have been happy if the Red Sox would have ponied up the same money to keep him.
And go ahead and pounce on Giambi...but how many teams have a guy with an OBP of over .500? The guy knows how to get on base...makes up for that horrible throwing arm!
Funny how these names disappear when they are doing well.
despite your best defense, unit still has an era approaching 5.00, and has had 2 very short and poor starts in a row. He's done.
Just like we will watch "King Felix" unfold with his brilliant ERA of 6+ and all the money they spent on a mediocre pitcher in Washburn with his 5.00 ERA...are they both done?
If you think Johnson is done, then what do you say about King Felix and Washburn?
Yes, Axhole, Im sure you can say a lot...but you'll come up with some sort of anti-yankees propoganda that will hold no validity as always.
It's not anti yankee propoganda, its medical truth. Guys over 40 as a rule just don't play competitive baseball, period.
And Wasburn we all know is just a mediocre pitcher AT BEST.
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Randy Johnson is not going to get any better. Just a hunch ....
I'm a Blue Jays fan through and through and I enjoyed the game last night, but Johnson always seems to get rocked at the SkyDome (now known as the Rogers Centre). I respect the Yankees very much though. I was sitting on pins and needles the whole game, even when the Jays had a five-run lead and B.J. Ryan in. That Yanks lineup is explosive. The Jays are going to be better this year. They're a pesky bunch and love playing for John Gibbons. I'm really looking forward to this weekend, when for the first time this year, the Jays will have A.J. Burnett and Roy Halladay starting back to back. The AL East is going to be interesting. My suspicion is that the Yanks will still win the division and that the AL Wild Card is going to come down to Boston, Toronto and Cleveland.
<< <i>"King" Felix may not be anywhere near 40 but he is not anywhere near a proven pitcher either. So take that stupid "King" before his name Ax and shove it up your a$$.
>>
Jealous much? Your post screams 'I wish King Felix was a Yankee!' Must suck to be you, sparky.
<< <i>Cy Young
Even if he pitches this way all year (he won't), you and I both know he'd be better than any of the over the hill, overpaid, overrated stiffs pitching in pinstripes!
<< <i>And Wasburn we all know is just a mediocre pitcher AT BEST.
And he's better than anyone wearing pinstripes this year, too!
Get lost, son. Grownups are talking baseball here.
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<< <i>Ax, you wouldn't know a baseball from a bowling ball. Only idiots like yourself make determinations on a season in EARLY APRIL. As with every thread, adults have great debate until you poison everything with your propaganda. Now, get back to the thread in which you were absolutley DISMANTLED and try and answer for yourself. Stop with the "pile on" excuses too. You just can't back up what you say thats all and you get called out. Then you cry like a little bitSh about pile ons
The only bit*h here is YOU, you dope.
Who was making a determination? I simply said Unit was DONE, that's not a determination, that's fact. I know it HURTS, and it SUCKS for people like you who think that 40 something pitchers are commonplace, but he's done.
Dismantled? I can't help it if people don't want to look outside the realm of what is handfed to them. People like YOU, for example, can't explain why, if a jumbo jet slammed into the pentagon, there is only a 16 foot hole on the other side of the inner ring...surely you don't think a jet did that, did you?
If so, I have some ocean front property in Arizona I am sure you'd love!
Open your eyes you dope...you've been fooled (though it's not the first time I've handed your ass back to you). Now scram, chump, before I shred you yet again.
by the way, I'm still waiting for "King" Felix to fetch my slippers and my newspaper!
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"shrug"
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<< <i>and Boston fans know it more than anyone cuz they would have been happy if the Red Sox would have ponied up the same money to keep him. >>
Uh, no. Not even close. If the Sox had paid $52 million for Damon at this stage in his career, Red Sox fans would have been unhappy - believe me. The Sox made the $40 million offer only because they knew he wouldn't take it, and it allowed them to save face. From this point forward, the Sox are a much better team with Crisp in CF - and Damon will just continue to break down.
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<< <i>and Boston fans know it more than anyone cuz they would have been happy if the Red Sox would have ponied up the same money to keep him. >>
Uh, no. Not even close. If the Sox had paid $52 million for Damon at this stage in his career, Red Sox fans would have been unhappy - believe me. The Sox made the $40 million offer only because they knew he wouldn't take it, and it allowed them to save face. From this point forward, the Sox are a much better team with Crisp in CF - and Damon will just continue to break down. >>
Even the Red Sox said that they had made the 10/year offer and were surprised when Damon signed with the Yankees. What did that tell us? That Red Sox probably were going to pay more if given the chance.
Red Sox didnt know they were going to get Crisp. We all heard how angry Red Sox nation was when Damon left...so I believe Red Sox fans would have been perfectly happy paying him what the Yanks are and then some!
It's easy to be happy having Crisp now that the Red Sox have him.
Axhole, the only diluted person is your sorry a$$.
<< <i>Given the Red Sox said that they had made the 10/year offer and were surprised when Damon signed with the Yankees. What did that tell us? That Red Sox probably were going to pay more if given the chance.
>>
What, are you a red sox insider or something? You don't think they told that story to save face? Please, if they want to offer $13 mill a year, they would have. But why offer an over the hill, aging, rubber armed center fielder that kind of dough? They offered 10, and knew the yankees, in a typical fit of jealous fervor, would up the ante, and think they won a prize. A boobie prize, perhaps!
<< <i>Red Sox didnt know they were going to get Crisp. We all heard how angry Red Sox nation was when Damon left...so I believe Red Sox fans would have been perfectly happy paying him what the Yanks are and then some! >>
Well it's a good thing fans don't run the team, isn't it.
<< <i>It's easy to be happy having Crisp now that the Red Sox have him.
Axhole, the only diluted person is your sorry a$$. >>
Hahah diluted? I'm watered down? Don't you mean deluded, ya dope? I can't believe yankee fans are still under the mistaken impression they got a good deal in Damon at $13 million per year. Well, I guess when you are used to contracts like Kevin Brown's, anything's a steal!
"Well it's a good thing fans don't run the team, isn't it."
Exactly my point Mr Obvious.
Better to be paying 13/year to Damon than nearly 9.5/year for Washburn.
<< <i>Red Sox didnt know they were going to get Crisp. >>
Maybe not, but Theo Epstein identified him in the middle of last season as a player he would love to have play for the Sox. Damon heard about this, which is why he made comments towards the end of last season about how the team "didn't want him anymore", and when he took the Yankees offer, how the Sox could "go get their man now". Don't think for a minute that the Damon signing was a failure by the Boston front office - it actually was the beginning of the perfectly designed plan to replace him with a younger, more athletic player.
I guess the world will never know!
<< <i>If that was the case, why would they have offered Damon 10/year to begin with? That was a very legit offer. Wouldnt it have been easier for the Red Sox to say "no thank you" to Damon and not offer him a contract than to give a legit offer? They seemed they would have been much more than content to keep Damon.
I guess the world will never know! >>
Damon was wildly popular in Boston, of course. There was no way the Sox front office could not tender him an offer, and a "legit" one at that - the fans would have seen right through it. The offer was made to save face by the front office, but they knew it was an offer that would be topped - and no tears were shed when it was.
you make it sound like the yanks and queen george have NEVER overpaid for an aging, underperforming veteran before - hell, half your roster is guys just like that!
You are in such a rush to make it seem like the yankees 'pulled one over' on the red sox, when, in fact, the opposite is true.
Class is out. You are excused. Now run home and tell your mommy what you learned in class today.
Thats even MORE funny coming from someone who knows nothing about baseball and more about conspiracy theories!
Look, admitting you're wrong is the first step to enlightenment. Perhaps if you admit more yankee moves stink, you'll be a better person.
Nah, you won't. You're drunk on yankee koolaid!
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Thats even MORE funny coming from someone who knows nothing about baseball and more about conspiracy theories! >>
What PENN & TELLER think about Axtell..(strong language)
<< <i> Mark my words, you heard it here first, Damon will be that same player the last 2 years of this contract that Williams was the last 2 years of his contract. Then we will see if it was money well spent. >>
I dunno, Duquette said the same thing about Clemens.
Of course, at the time, not many knew that Clemens would only get better with age. He could probably play until he's 50 if he wanted to.
Dope.
yankeeno-
keep on drinking that koolaid, buddy!
<< <i>Oh pandrews shows...after he ran and hid after getting clowned on in the OF.
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wtf are you talking about?
keep on pretending panda rues...that weed must be affecting your memory now.