With the Trade deadline ending today at 4pm (ET) here are some of the deals made in the past day...
Cowboys trade for Panthers WR Jonathan Mingo
Bengals trade for Bears RB Khalil Herbert
Lions trade for Browns DE Za'Darius Smith
Cardinals trade for Broncos LB Baron Browning
20 Gino Cappelleti 15 Babe Perilli... That's the best that I could do from what I can see...and I'm not even an AFC East guy...👓🏈👍
Unfortunately I’m old enough to identify half the team. I can still name the starting defensive for the Bills from 1964 but can’t remember why I walked into a room.
W.C.Fields "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
@JoeBanzai said:
I'm beginning to wonder if J J McCarthy is going to be better than Sam Darnold. You never know with rookies.
Darnold has made some fabulous throws, avoids the sack pretty well and runs well too.
I would hate to see Darnold sign elsewhere and J J not fulfill his potential.
Thoughts from fellow Vikings fans and orhers?
It's a good problem to have, You got a guy like Darnold that has been passed around like a peace pipe, I don't follow the Vikes but if you can keep Darnold for cheap then see who is better in training camp next year.
If they end up having to give Darnold the standard 140+ million dollar deal to keep him then hard pass imo
@JoeBanzai said:
I'm beginning to wonder if J J McCarthy is going to be better than Sam Darnold. You never know with rookies.
Darnold has made some fabulous throws, avoids the sack pretty well and runs well too.
I would hate to see Darnold sign elsewhere and J J not fulfill his potential.
Thoughts from fellow Vikings fans and orhers?
It's a good problem to have, You got a guy like Darnold that has been passed around like a peace pipe, I don't follow the Vikes but if you can keep Darnold for cheap then see who is better in training camp next year.
If they end up having to give Darnold the standard 140+ million dollar deal to keep him then hard pass imo
I don't think one good year on a team pretty loaded with offensive talent is going to put him in the huge money stratosphere.
I like having a guy who you know what he can give you. Sam isn't going to be a top 3 QB, but who knows what McCarthy is going to be like?
If I were the Vikings, I would be talking about an extention and a nice raise NOW.
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@JoeBanzai said:
I'm beginning to wonder if J J McCarthy is going to be better than Sam Darnold. You never know with rookies.
Darnold has made some fabulous throws, avoids the sack pretty well and runs well too.
I would hate to see Darnold sign elsewhere and J J not fulfill his potential.
Thoughts from fellow Vikings fans and orhers?
It's a good problem to have, You got a guy like Darnold that has been passed around like a peace pipe, I don't follow the Vikes but if you can keep Darnold for cheap then see who is better in training camp next year.
If they end up having to give Darnold the standard 140+ million dollar deal to keep him then hard pass imo
I don't think one good year on a team pretty loaded with offensive talent is going to put him in the huge money stratosphere.
I like having a guy who you know what he can give you. Sam isn't going to be a top 3 QB, but who knows what McCarthy is going to be like?
If I were the Vikings, I would be talking about an extention and a nice raise NOW.
It kind of did for Baker after 2023 in Tampa Bay, he had two 1K yard receivers and a RB who finished with 1500+ combined RSH/REC yards and it landed him a 3yr/100M deal less than a month before turning 29.
With Darnold being two years younger at 27 and playing like he has, a 4yr deal in that 120-150M range is definitely realistic. I think he'd need to finish out his season strong though similar to how Baker did in 2023 winning 5 of his last 6 games in the regular season then winning a playoff game. If Darnold keeps on this same statistical pace,he should finish with better stats and a better record than Baker did with TB in 2023.
Personally, I would take your chance with McCarthy who would have 3 more seasons on his rookie deal plus that 5th yr option, the Vikings could then use that 120-140M to keep building up the talent on the roster. Its a gamble though either way, JJ may not pan out and Sam could revert back to previous form.
McCartthy will be a step down, but they have too much invested in him to sit him when hes already missed a year. Darnold is probably going to sign elsewhere anyways. Too many teams need a QB in what is a fairly thin QB draft. Someone will do something stupid with Milton like the Colts did with Richardson, but other than that its really just Ewers, Ward, Schedeur, and Nussmeier is playing his way into that group. Beck has so far played his way out of the first round which isnt entirely his fault.
All of this bodes well for a strong market for Darnold in free agency especially with how many teams have terrible records right now and how some of them may be picking a lot lower than you would think given the record.
Don’t forget Darnold was drafted #3 in 2018. The talent was always there. The beef is this is a win now league. How many HOF QB’s sucked in their first few years? Manning was atrocious. If drafted today he’d be on his 4th team. Teams have no patience to develop talent any longer
W.C.Fields "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
@galaxy27 said:
the Bengals just went for two to win the game. pass was incomplete. Cincy's tight end got raped, no call. Burrow got drilled in the face, no call.
@BLUEJAYWAY said:
After the Cinncinati TD I knew they would go for 2. What with the TB coach being criticized for not going for 2 on Monday night.
The call for 2 by the Bengals was the right decision. It doesn't work 100% of the time.
So the decision was correct, I'm not sure about the play execution. Looking at the replay, even if the receiver caught the ball, it appears like he would have been tackled short of the end zone anyway.
On another replay, I saw in slow motion the two possible infractions. The pass interference non-call could have gone either way. In my opinion it may have not been interference.
However the roughing the passer non-call was ludicrous. The guy was all over the QB's facemask for crying out loud. Without debate an obvious penalty.
as if it couldn't get any worse, in addition to the TE getting held and Burrow getting jammed in the grill, it was brought to my attention that there was also a "missed" hands to the face call
and here's visual evidence
there should have been laundry all over that field
here's an SI article about the officiating that's on point
the analogy to the way JJ runs the Cowboys was especially salient
the NFL will care just enough about the on-field policing problem to keep you and me around. and seeing as the league is impenetrable, things will only get worse before they get better. for crying out loud, a zebra faux pas put an undeserving team in the sport's most important game a few years ago (Rams), yet the league is printing more money now than ever before.
Jerry Jones is no different. the man has single-handedly prevented his team from coming within a country mile of reaching the pinnacle this century, but i assure you that he couldn't be more content. there's a reason why everyone knows who he is. there's a reason why he gets in front of a camera after every Cowboys game, win or lose. this year's version of his product is the worst in recent memory, but even when Dallas loses 10+ games this season and doesn't sniff the SB for the ~30th year, one other nugget will also remain a constant......................he'll still be the owner of the most valuable sports franchise on planet earth.
@perkdog said:
I know I circle back to the gambling aspect of the NFL but the refs can manipulate a game in your favor or against you
It's literally a crap shoot on what is going to depict a game and it happens way too often.
These days the NFL pools in legal US betting markets are huge. Overall, the pools in areas such as Europe, Asia, and Australia are even larger. The incentive for cheating is overwhelming, if the officiating is not more carefully scrutinized by the league.
I mean how could this obvious and egregious facemask penalty not be called?
@perkdog said:
I know I circle back to the gambling aspect of the NFL but the refs can manipulate a game in your favor or against you
It's literally a crap shoot on what is going to depict a game and it happens way too often.
These days the NFL pools in legal US betting markets are huge. Overall, the pools in areas such as Europe, Asia, and Australia are even larger. The incentive for cheating is overwhelming, if the officiating is not more carefully scrutinized by the league.
I mean how could this obvious and egregious facemask penalty not be called?
One of the biggest game changers is "Live Betting" during the course of the game the amount of money that can shift before the game is finished is massive.
I mean how could this obvious and egregious facemask penalty not be called?
And we've come full circle back to Sam Darnold. If any of these would have been on the favorite sons (Mahomes, Rodgers, etc) it would be a different story.
Betting is certainly the easy scapegoat and there are coaches that do stuff that look like theyre coaching to cover the spread. Some officials may be influenced by it but its been around long before it was legal and no way to eliminate it. Its better out in the open.
To me the bigger issue is that refs in major sports are never held accountable. The worst that happens is they dont get to work playoff games but they essentially never get fired for performance and are basically allowed to go on until they decide to retire. Im fine with fewer flags and letting them play and fight with the WRs and DBs but certain penalties just cannot be missed especially a QB having his face mask ripped up that you can clearly see right in front of you
@Basebal21 said:
Betting is certainly the easy scapegoat and there are coaches that do stuff that look like theyre coaching to cover the spread. Some officials may be influenced by it but its been around long before it was legal and no way to eliminate it. Its better out in the open.
To me the bigger issue is that refs in major sports are never held accountable. The worst that happens is they dont get to work playoff games but they essentially never get fired for performance and are basically allowed to go on until they decide to retire. Im fine with fewer flags and letting them play and fight with the WRs and DBs but certain penalties just cannot be missed especially a QB having his face mask ripped up that you can clearly see right in front of you
I mean how could this obvious and egregious facemask penalty not be called?
And we've come full circle back to Sam Darnold. If any of these would have been on the favorite sons (Mahomes, Rodgers, etc) it would be a different story.
No because they missed one on Mahomes a couple weeks ago. Looked just like the one on burrow except the chiefs still won.
@galaxy27 said:
as if it couldn't get any worse, in addition to the TE getting held and Burrow getting jammed in the grill, it was brought to my attention that there was also a "missed" hands to the face call
and here's visual evidence
there should have been laundry all over that field
nah. no penalties. clean play. Ravens win. lol
the NFL is filthy
If you expand this photo you will see the player with Joes mask has the face mask of the blocker. 3 in one play is a record
W.C.Fields "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
@JoeBanzai said:
Already a horrible call on interception in end zone against Vikings.
Obvious that the ball hit the ground.
:-(
Follow up rules question;
Late in game Vikings defender intercepts pass, falls at the 1yard line and his momentum carries him into the end zone where Jaguars receiver promptly falls on him.
Vikings given the ball at the 1 yard line BUT defender was tackled in the end zone, he could have gotten up and ran the ball out of the end zone if he wasn't tackled, so the play should have been a touchback.........yes?
I already know bgr's answer, so anyone else?
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@JoeBanzai said:
Already a horrible call on interception in end zone against Vikings.
Obvious that the ball hit the ground.
:-(
Follow up rules question;
Late in game Vikings defender intercepts pass, falls at the 1yard line and his momentum carries him into the end zone where Jaguars receiver promptly falls on him.
Vikings given the ball at the 1 yard line BUT defender was tackled in the end zone, he could have gotten up and ran the ball out of the end zone if he wasn't tackled, so the play should have been a touchback.........yes?
I already know bgr's answer, so anyone else?
Words hurt Joe.
But the rule would be that the ball is placed at the point in the field of play where the defender established possession. If he fell into the end zone before establishing possession it would be a touchback. There is a situation where it could be a safety but this was not that.
@JoeBanzai said:
Already a horrible call on interception in end zone against Vikings.
Obvious that the ball hit the ground.
:-(
Follow up rules question;
Late in game Vikings defender intercepts pass, falls at the 1yard line and his momentum carries him into the end zone where Jaguars receiver promptly falls on him.
Vikings given the ball at the 1 yard line BUT defender was tackled in the end zone, he could have gotten up and ran the ball out of the end zone if he wasn't tackled, so the play should have been a touchback.........yes?
I already know bgr's answer, so anyone else?
Words hurt Joe.
But the rule would be that the ball is placed at the point in the field of play where the defender established possession. If he fell into the end zone before establishing possession it would be a touchback. There is a situation where it could be a safety but this was not that.
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Words hurt? Thought you said you would vote against my team no matter what. That hurt.
So defender couldn't have intercepted the ball, gone into the end zone and kept running with the ball into the field of play?
Another idiotic rule.
2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
@JoeBanzai said:
Already a horrible call on interception in end zone against Vikings.
Obvious that the ball hit the ground.
:-(
Follow up rules question;
Late in game Vikings defender intercepts pass, falls at the 1yard line and his momentum carries him into the end zone where Jaguars receiver promptly falls on him.
Vikings given the ball at the 1 yard line BUT defender was tackled in the end zone, he could have gotten up and ran the ball out of the end zone if he wasn't tackled, so the play should have been a touchback.........yes?
I already know bgr's answer, so anyone else?
Words hurt Joe.
But the rule would be that the ball is placed at the point in the field of play where the defender established possession. If he fell into the end zone before establishing possession it would be a touchback. There is a situation where it could be a safety but this was not that.
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Words hurt? Thought you said you would vote against my team no matter what. That hurt.
So defender couldn't have intercepted the ball, gone into the end zone and kept running with the ball into the field of play?
Another idiotic rule.
Well. Packers Rule.
The defender could go backwards into the end zone and then take the ball back into the field of play and advance it. I wasn’t watching the game today so I didn’t see this one. But it sounds like they put the ball at the 1 or so. So they just have determined that the defender had possession in the field of play and was then carried into the end zone by their own momentum and touched down. Ball would be placed at the 1 or so. I don’t know where it was exactly. The officials get these calls wrong almost all the time. To be fair, it’s usually easy with replay but real time at full speed I can see why it’s tough to determine. I think that in this case, even if the defender fell down in the end zone, without being touched, they could still get up and advance the ball but someone would have to double check that.
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The guy that plowed the field was a felon on work release lol
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With the Trade deadline ending today at 4pm (ET) here are some of the deals made in the past day...
Cowboys trade for Panthers WR Jonathan Mingo
Bengals trade for Bears RB Khalil Herbert
Lions trade for Browns DE Za'Darius Smith
Cardinals trade for Broncos LB Baron Browning
Eric
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@perkdog
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
Nice!!!
20 Gino Cappelleti 15 Babe Perilli... That's the best that I could do from what I can see...and I'm not even an AFC East guy...👓🏈👍
I new you would identify a couple!!
Unfortunately I’m old enough to identify half the team. I can still name the starting defensive for the Bills from 1964 but can’t remember why I walked into a room.
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
I'm beginning to wonder if J J McCarthy is going to be better than Sam Darnold. You never know with rookies.
Darnold has made some fabulous throws, avoids the sack pretty well and runs well too.
I would hate to see Darnold sign elsewhere and J J not fulfill his potential.
Thoughts from fellow Vikings fans and orhers?
It's a good problem to have, You got a guy like Darnold that has been passed around like a peace pipe, I don't follow the Vikes but if you can keep Darnold for cheap then see who is better in training camp next year.
If they end up having to give Darnold the standard 140+ million dollar deal to keep him then hard pass imo
I don't think one good year on a team pretty loaded with offensive talent is going to put him in the huge money stratosphere.
I like having a guy who you know what he can give you. Sam isn't going to be a top 3 QB, but who knows what McCarthy is going to be like?
If I were the Vikings, I would be talking about an extention and a nice raise NOW.
It kind of did for Baker after 2023 in Tampa Bay, he had two 1K yard receivers and a RB who finished with 1500+ combined RSH/REC yards and it landed him a 3yr/100M deal less than a month before turning 29.
With Darnold being two years younger at 27 and playing like he has, a 4yr deal in that 120-150M range is definitely realistic. I think he'd need to finish out his season strong though similar to how Baker did in 2023 winning 5 of his last 6 games in the regular season then winning a playoff game. If Darnold keeps on this same statistical pace,he should finish with better stats and a better record than Baker did with TB in 2023.
Personally, I would take your chance with McCarthy who would have 3 more seasons on his rookie deal plus that 5th yr option, the Vikings could then use that 120-140M to keep building up the talent on the roster. Its a gamble though either way, JJ may not pan out and Sam could revert back to previous form.
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McCartthy will be a step down, but they have too much invested in him to sit him when hes already missed a year. Darnold is probably going to sign elsewhere anyways. Too many teams need a QB in what is a fairly thin QB draft. Someone will do something stupid with Milton like the Colts did with Richardson, but other than that its really just Ewers, Ward, Schedeur, and Nussmeier is playing his way into that group. Beck has so far played his way out of the first round which isnt entirely his fault.
All of this bodes well for a strong market for Darnold in free agency especially with how many teams have terrible records right now and how some of them may be picking a lot lower than you would think given the record.
Edit Milroe not Milton
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
Right - If McCarthy gets hit by an NFL tackle then he is going down like Manziel! And will never recover from the experience.
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
the Bengals just went for two to win the game. pass was incomplete. Cincy's tight end got raped, no call. Burrow got drilled in the face, no call.
Al Michaels was none too pleased
https://www.si.com/nfl/al-michaels-laments-nfl-officiating-rant-bengals-loss-ravens
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
After the Cinncinati TD I knew they would go for 2. What with the TB coach being criticized for not going for 2 on Monday night.
Don’t forget Darnold was drafted #3 in 2018. The talent was always there. The beef is this is a win now league. How many HOF QB’s sucked in their first few years? Manning was atrocious. If drafted today he’d be on his 4th team. Teams have no patience to develop talent any longer
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
No doubt the Bengals got robbed in this game by the refs. Just pathetic. Crazy ending.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ignore list -Basebal21
The call for 2 by the Bengals was the right decision. It doesn't work 100% of the time.
So the decision was correct, I'm not sure about the play execution. Looking at the replay, even if the receiver caught the ball, it appears like he would have been tackled short of the end zone anyway.
Agreed - I'd continue to tap that well as long as it is giving you something. And I'm a proponent for letting McCarthy learn as much as he can.
Typical ending to an otherwise great game, same type of thing happened to Sam Darnold a few weeks ago
I was saying to 1 of my guys on Tuesday night... Kinda A Bummer about J. J. on the Vikings...I really would have liked to seen him play more...🏈🏈🏈
starting to wonder if the refs just swallow their flags at the end of games now
if i was a d-back i'd maul a receiver
https://athlonsports.com/nfl/robert-griffin-iii-calls-for-nfl-to-make-change-after-bengals-ravens-ending
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
On another replay, I saw in slow motion the two possible infractions. The pass interference non-call could have gone either way. In my opinion it may have not been interference.
However the roughing the passer non-call was ludicrous. The guy was all over the QB's facemask for crying out loud. Without debate an obvious penalty.
as if it couldn't get any worse, in addition to the TE getting held and Burrow getting jammed in the grill, it was brought to my attention that there was also a "missed" hands to the face call
and here's visual evidence
there should have been laundry all over that field
nah. no penalties. clean play. Ravens win. lol
the NFL is filthy
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
and here's Gesicki (#88) getting gangbanged by two Ravens at the goal line
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
in fairness... look at how he's dressed.
LASIK offering NFL refs free eye surgeries to improve their vision is one of the funnier things of the season
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
here's an SI article about the officiating that's on point
the analogy to the way JJ runs the Cowboys was especially salient
the NFL will care just enough about the on-field policing problem to keep you and me around. and seeing as the league is impenetrable, things will only get worse before they get better. for crying out loud, a zebra faux pas put an undeserving team in the sport's most important game a few years ago (Rams), yet the league is printing more money now than ever before.
Jerry Jones is no different. the man has single-handedly prevented his team from coming within a country mile of reaching the pinnacle this century, but i assure you that he couldn't be more content. there's a reason why everyone knows who he is. there's a reason why he gets in front of a camera after every Cowboys game, win or lose. this year's version of his product is the worst in recent memory, but even when Dallas loses 10+ games this season and doesn't sniff the SB for the ~30th year, one other nugget will also remain a constant......................he'll still be the owner of the most valuable sports franchise on planet earth.
sure, he cares..........
sure, the NFL cares..........
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/if-the-nfl-cared-about-its-broken-officiating-it-would-have-fixed-it-by-now/ar-AA1tILnV?ocid=BingNewsSerp
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
I know I circle back to the gambling aspect of the NFL but the refs can manipulate a game in your favor or against you
It's literally a crap shoot on what is going to depict a game and it happens way too often.
These days the NFL pools in legal US betting markets are huge. Overall, the pools in areas such as Europe, Asia, and Australia are even larger. The incentive for cheating is overwhelming, if the officiating is not more carefully scrutinized by the league.
I mean how could this obvious and egregious facemask penalty not be called?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Y2xqsvF6Nz4?feature=share
One of the biggest game changers is "Live Betting" during the course of the game the amount of money that can shift before the game is finished is massive.
And we've come full circle back to Sam Darnold. If any of these would have been on the favorite sons (Mahomes, Rodgers, etc) it would be a different story.
Betting is certainly the easy scapegoat and there are coaches that do stuff that look like theyre coaching to cover the spread. Some officials may be influenced by it but its been around long before it was legal and no way to eliminate it. Its better out in the open.
To me the bigger issue is that refs in major sports are never held accountable. The worst that happens is they dont get to work playoff games but they essentially never get fired for performance and are basically allowed to go on until they decide to retire. Im fine with fewer flags and letting them play and fight with the WRs and DBs but certain penalties just cannot be missed especially a QB having his face mask ripped up that you can clearly see right in front of you
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
Agreed 100%
No because they missed one on Mahomes a couple weeks ago. Looked just like the one on burrow except the chiefs still won.
If you expand this photo you will see the player with Joes mask has the face mask of the blocker. 3 in one play is a record
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
Already a horrible call on interception in end zone against Vikings.
Obvious that the ball hit the ground.
:-(
As a Jaguars and Patriots fan for the day I can say with fingers barely crossed that I completely agree with that call. Haha.
two thoughts
if the Chiefs were to somehow lose a game, i think they'd still find a way to win
ok Caleb sucks, what quarterback are we drafting next year
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Follow up rules question;
Late in game Vikings defender intercepts pass, falls at the 1yard line and his momentum carries him into the end zone where Jaguars receiver promptly falls on him.
Vikings given the ball at the 1 yard line BUT defender was tackled in the end zone, he could have gotten up and ran the ball out of the end zone if he wasn't tackled, so the play should have been a touchback.........yes?
I already know bgr's answer, so anyone else?
Words hurt Joe.
But the rule would be that the ball is placed at the point in the field of play where the defender established possession. If he fell into the end zone before establishing possession it would be a touchback. There is a situation where it could be a safety but this was not that.
hey ya Galaxy...
Yeah that Red team....Um...They Pulled A Horseshoe Out Their Rectum's Today....
and during dinner my mom said: Eberflus's hair products are dampening his coaching ability...
I took a mouthful of water, and said to my mom: I'm Gonna Post That Up...
Lemme get some editing in...
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Words hurt? Thought you said you would vote against my team no matter what. That hurt.
So defender couldn't have intercepted the ball, gone into the end zone and kept running with the ball into the field of play?
Another idiotic rule.
Looks like that Arron Rodgers QB thing in NY is finally over -
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
Oh Jeez, Dallas brings Trey Lance in at QB and he fumbles............
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
They can go in the endzone and run it back. It should have been a touch back. He wasnt down until he was touched in the endzone.
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
Well. Packers Rule.
The defender could go backwards into the end zone and then take the ball back into the field of play and advance it. I wasn’t watching the game today so I didn’t see this one. But it sounds like they put the ball at the 1 or so. So they just have determined that the defender had possession in the field of play and was then carried into the end zone by their own momentum and touched down. Ball would be placed at the 1 or so. I don’t know where it was exactly. The officials get these calls wrong almost all the time. To be fair, it’s usually easy with replay but real time at full speed I can see why it’s tough to determine. I think that in this case, even if the defender fell down in the end zone, without being touched, they could still get up and advance the ball but someone would have to double check that.