No other teams had significant injuries. Only SEC teams.
You’re absolutely right Maywood. We’re seeing this shift as a result of the fairness NIL is providing, and the movement allowed by the portal. For parity it’s great. I’m not sure how much I like what it’s doing to college football in general but I get it.
Players were being paid for decades. It was most prominent in the SEC as the conference didn’t do anything. It was present elsewhere but at a much lesser space. bullsitter posted that graphic showing the dominance of the SEC but what it also says is. Now that it’s fair look.
NIL doesnt matter for football or basketball. Those guys have been paid for decades. Caitlin and Livvy were some of the biggest benefits. NIL really helped the sports that dont make money the most.
The transfer portal is the biggest equalizer. Its taken away the depth for the top teams and players no longer sit around for years anymore. Injuries are a much bigger factor without the depth because coaches no longer can hold players hostage as back ups
I didn’t not expect it but it was still funny to hear a SEC advocate state that NIL doesn’t matter because players have been paid for decades…
Yes. And funny because yes mostly in the SEC. Quite the coincidence that as soon as everyone can openly pay for play we see a shift in the power of conferences. Must be solar flares.
@Maywood said: @coolstanley said: Final AP Top 25 poll Big ten has 3 teams in the top 5.
And I can't help but notice Alabama down there at 17. They sure took a tumble this season and have their work cut out for them or the alum's will be out for blood.
And 17 is too high. Most of those teams ranked behind them should be in the top 20. Bama not so much.
Youre not even trying to be objective if you think Army and UNLV and Syracuse and Memphis and Colorado should be ranked higher
Every one of those teams should be ranked ahead of Bama except Colorado. They all had better records.
If Bama played a G5 schedule they would be undefeated. They would also be undefeated with Syracuses schedule. If any of those teams played Bamas schedule they wouldnt even be bowl eligible
If Tennessee, Texas, or Georgia played a BIG TEN schedule, none would have made the playoffs. Even Finebaum admitted BIG TEN is now the best conference.
The B!G had 3 good teams.
Wrong, as usual. The BIG TEN had 5 teams that finished in the top 16 final AP poll. And went 5-1 against the SEC in bowl games.
And stop blaming the current Bama coach for Milroe. Saban recruited him, not Debour.
@Maywood said: @coolstanley said: Final AP Top 25 poll Big ten has 3 teams in the top 5.
And I can't help but notice Alabama down there at 17. They sure took a tumble this season and have their work cut out for them or the alum's will be out for blood.
And 17 is too high. Most of those teams ranked behind them should be in the top 20. Bama not so much.
Youre not even trying to be objective if you think Army and UNLV and Syracuse and Memphis and Colorado should be ranked higher
Every one of those teams should be ranked ahead of Bama except Colorado. They all had better records.
If Bama played a G5 schedule they would be undefeated. They would also be undefeated with Syracuses schedule. If any of those teams played Bamas schedule they wouldnt even be bowl eligible
If Tennessee, Texas, or Georgia played a BIG TEN schedule, none would have made the playoffs. Even Finebaum admitted BIG TEN is now the best conference.
The B!G had 3 good teams.
Wrong, as usual. The BIG TEN had 5 teams that finished in the top 16 final AP poll. And went 5-1 against the SEC in bowl games.
And stop blaming the current Bama coach for Milroe. Saban recruited him, not Debour.
They didnt legitimately have 5 of the best teams in the country. They had 2
Also as far as Milrioe Saban would have benched him at half time. i Dont blame Debour for recruiting him, but i do blame him for not benching him and thinking that RB is a QB
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If anyone thinks the SEC was the only ones paying players for decades they just dont know college football
No one thinks that. It was the scope of it. We all knew what they were doing... The SEC conference knew what was happening. We all know college football well enough too. But guess what. No matter what we think reality wins. And look at reality - NIL+Portal has worked out pretty well for the B1G. So Ha Ha Ha. =P
Let's assume cheating as in the sign stealing for now.
NCAA found that Harbaugh wasn't involved, but there is supposedly a report that leaked that listed a handful of other coaches/other than were involved. I find it hard to believe he wasn't aware. Sign stealing was the headline, but there's no rule about sign stealing anyways. I think the breach was recording the opponents signs. Maybe he was aware of that, maybe he wasn't. The B1G, even though NCAA found Harbaugh to not have violated any rules, suspended him for the end of the season - a few games. That sent a message to teams that they were being held to a standard higher than the NCAA as a whole.
If it's the recruiting violations, he certainly did. He must have. He contacted players outside of the rules. Bad Boy. He dipped from college football to avoid facing the music. Now if he returns in 2028 does he still need to serve a 1 year suspension? Or is that only if he returns before 2028?
What in the heck is Dez talking about, maybe some of you homers can let me know.
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The firsts and last are justy funny. Michigan and OSU and Nebraska have been paying players forever. Nebraska kind of wasted it and hasnt been a force since the 1990s but is is funny
Two things that cost Ohio State Head Coaches their jobs stand out in the last 15 years. The 1st was players selling/trading their own possessions for tattoos and the 2nd is the OC being guilty of domestic violence and the HC not reporting it.
There's really no comparison between those things and what took place in Michigan during CheatGate. All the same, most every college fan I know was screaming for something to be done.
As usual, @Bullsitter vanishes only to return in an effort to slander the Big 10 and Ohio State. Nice try, but you missed the target altogether.
The Tattoo thing was stupid. There was probably some more behind the scenes stuff that the Tattoos were used to cover it up but if it really was just the tattoos that was very dumb.
The DV stuff was bad for sure and the Michigan stuff is really mostly about the recording stuff and Stallions being on the sidelines for other teams. I really dont care about recruiting stuff since all the big programs do it, but I really cant figure out why the NCAA is so terrified of punishing Michigan
every major college program makes the rules as pliable as they possibly can, and it's been going on forever. i saw an interview Shannon Sharpe had with Johnny Football and he asked him if he wished he had played in the NIL days. Manziel chuckled, held his hand up, rubbed his thumb back and forth against his index & middle fingers, and told a 7-figure anecdote.
Newton got 250k to go to Auburn, Manziel tons of money, Lendal White used to get driven home by Snoop Dog to a downtown LA apartment where a literal bag of cash would be waiting for him.
Manziel did get taken advantage of a little bit by autograph dealers signing thousands of things for well below market rates.
OSU and Smith will be interesting this off season. Smith is getting offers of 5 mil per year to enter the portal and transfer.
@Basebal21 said:
Newton got 250k to go to Auburn, Manziel tons of money, Lendal White used to get driven home by Snoop Dog to a downtown LA apartment where a literal bag of cash would be waiting for him.
Manziel did get taken advantage of a little bit by autograph dealers signing thousands of things for well below market rates.
OSU and Smith will be interesting this off season. Smith is getting offers of 5 mil per year to enter the portal and transfer.
I'm sure you know more about Cam Newton because you obviously wrote the check.
200+ was reported at the time. Cam says a lot of stuff that just isnt accurate about his recruitment. He claims he switch his commitment from Mississippi State to Auburn because of a players uncle, the reality is he just went to the highest bidder
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No other teams had significant injuries. Only SEC teams.
You’re absolutely right Maywood. We’re seeing this shift as a result of the fairness NIL is providing, and the movement allowed by the portal. For parity it’s great. I’m not sure how much I like what it’s doing to college football in general but I get it.
Players were being paid for decades. It was most prominent in the SEC as the conference didn’t do anything. It was present elsewhere but at a much lesser space. bullsitter posted that graphic showing the dominance of the SEC but what it also says is. Now that it’s fair look.
NIL doesnt matter for football or basketball. Those guys have been paid for decades. Caitlin and Livvy were some of the biggest benefits. NIL really helped the sports that dont make money the most.
The transfer portal is the biggest equalizer. Its taken away the depth for the top teams and players no longer sit around for years anymore. Injuries are a much bigger factor without the depth because coaches no longer can hold players hostage as back ups
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
I didn’t not expect it but it was still funny to hear a SEC advocate state that NIL doesn’t matter because players have been paid for decades…
Yes. And funny because yes mostly in the SEC. Quite the coincidence that as soon as everyone can openly pay for play we see a shift in the power of conferences. Must be solar flares.
If anyone thinks the SEC was the only ones paying players for decades they just dont know college football
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
Wrong, as usual. The BIG TEN had 5 teams that finished in the top 16 final AP poll. And went 5-1 against the SEC in bowl games.
And stop blaming the current Bama coach for Milroe. Saban recruited him, not Debour.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ignore list -Basebal21
They didnt legitimately have 5 of the best teams in the country. They had 2
Also as far as Milrioe Saban would have benched him at half time. i Dont blame Debour for recruiting him, but i do blame him for not benching him and thinking that RB is a QB
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
No one thinks that. It was the scope of it. We all knew what they were doing... The SEC conference knew what was happening. We all know college football well enough too. But guess what. No matter what we think reality wins. And look at reality - NIL+Portal has worked out pretty well for the B1G. So Ha Ha Ha. =P
Michigan got caught cheating last year.
I haven't heard, maybe some of you homers can let me know.
B!G commissioner ran to the Bears because the conference hated that he didnt have the conference get more money if it expanded.
NCAA is just a joke being terrified to do anything to Michigan
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
The cheating was the sign stealing right? Last year was 24. That was 23.
The 24 stuff was recruiting violations. Right?
What in the heck is Dez talking about, maybe some of you homers can let me know.
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Let's assume cheating as in the sign stealing for now.
NCAA found that Harbaugh wasn't involved, but there is supposedly a report that leaked that listed a handful of other coaches/other than were involved. I find it hard to believe he wasn't aware. Sign stealing was the headline, but there's no rule about sign stealing anyways. I think the breach was recording the opponents signs. Maybe he was aware of that, maybe he wasn't. The B1G, even though NCAA found Harbaugh to not have violated any rules, suspended him for the end of the season - a few games. That sent a message to teams that they were being held to a standard higher than the NCAA as a whole.
If it's the recruiting violations, he certainly did. He must have. He contacted players outside of the rules. Bad Boy. He dipped from college football to avoid facing the music. Now if he returns in 2028 does he still need to serve a 1 year suspension? Or is that only if he returns before 2028?
Tattoos for Autographs. This was huge. Some players were getting free tattoos in exchange for autographing memorabilia.
The firsts and last are justy funny. Michigan and OSU and Nebraska have been paying players forever. Nebraska kind of wasted it and hasnt been a force since the 1990s but is is funny
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
Two things that cost Ohio State Head Coaches their jobs stand out in the last 15 years. The 1st was players selling/trading their own possessions for tattoos and the 2nd is the OC being guilty of domestic violence and the HC not reporting it.
There's really no comparison between those things and what took place in Michigan during CheatGate. All the same, most every college fan I know was screaming for something to be done.
As usual, @Bullsitter vanishes only to return in an effort to slander the Big 10 and Ohio State. Nice try, but you missed the target altogether.
The Tattoo thing was stupid. There was probably some more behind the scenes stuff that the Tattoos were used to cover it up but if it really was just the tattoos that was very dumb.
The DV stuff was bad for sure and the Michigan stuff is really mostly about the recording stuff and Stallions being on the sidelines for other teams. I really dont care about recruiting stuff since all the big programs do it, but I really cant figure out why the NCAA is so terrified of punishing Michigan
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
@Maywood
But it's ok for you to slander the SEC.....got it.....
A red tattoo on your left arm got you a free car at OSU Motors......
I don't slink away because my team lost and then resurface periodically to try to stir things up.
Id get a tat iif it came with a free car too lol
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
every major college program makes the rules as pliable as they possibly can, and it's been going on forever. i saw an interview Shannon Sharpe had with Johnny Football and he asked him if he wished he had played in the NIL days. Manziel chuckled, held his hand up, rubbed his thumb back and forth against his index & middle fingers, and told a 7-figure anecdote.
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Newton got 250k to go to Auburn, Manziel tons of money, Lendal White used to get driven home by Snoop Dog to a downtown LA apartment where a literal bag of cash would be waiting for him.
Manziel did get taken advantage of a little bit by autograph dealers signing thousands of things for well below market rates.
OSU and Smith will be interesting this off season. Smith is getting offers of 5 mil per year to enter the portal and transfer.
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
I'm sure you know more about Cam Newton because you obviously wrote the check.
He was on Shannon Sharpe's show (Shannon is his uncle). Cam said 180K. I'm going to take your post and submit it to the IRS for my reward my guy!
200+ was reported at the time. Cam says a lot of stuff that just isnt accurate about his recruitment. He claims he switch his commitment from Mississippi State to Auburn because of a players uncle, the reality is he just went to the highest bidder
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
So no reason to believe 250K any more than 180K. I don't. I don't know what's real or right.