A nice gesture…Thanks. But being from California, conceptually ice fishing will likely remain in the conceptual stage. Funny story… last time I was in Minnesota was within days of when the Super Bowl game was played there. It was before Covid… perhaps 2016 or so. It was sooo cold. If I recall correctly, the temps were well below zero. And the party atmosphere downtown was unbelievable…
edited to add... sort of got sidetracked thinking about the Super Bowl and when that was. The funny part of the story is I got my picture taken next to the George Mikan statue... then elsewhere in the downtown area, there is a statue of Mary Tyler Moore. And being the good tourist, I had my picture taken there too only to receive grief from the wife for not tossing my beanie in the air. Well... that was just a bridge too far.
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@perkdog said: That is hilarious that Arch earned more than Ewers
Yeah, and sat on the bench. Ewers clearly saw the writing on the wall, I just noticed today that he has opted for the Draft instead of another transfer. Can't see him going high in the draft or being successful wherever he lands. Probably a short career as a backup.
What, no SEC teams in the hotbed of NCAA football?? Interesting how quickly things can change. Next year at this time we could be looking at Kansas and BYU!! Next year is in Miami, I say they move it north of the Mason/Dixon line for a few years or if nothing else out west to get it away from the usual locations in the southeast.
@Maywood said:
What, no SEC teams in the hotbed of NCAA football?? Interesting how quickly things can change. Next year at this time we could be looking at Kansas and BYU!! Next year is in Miami, I say they move it north of the Mason/Dixon line for a few years or if nothing else out west to get it away from the usual locations in the southeast.
This years game should've been played at Ford Field.
Should at least get the dates right, the 2025 season hasnt started
2023 National Championship was Michigan and Washington, both teams were trash this year. 2024 they were blown out by both OSU and ND ND just let the game get closer than it really was at the end they were dominating so much.
And no one wants to go north in January or February, same reason why the SB is almost always in the south. People want to get away from the cold, not fly into weather delays from snow storms or arctic winds.
@Basebal21 said:
Should at least get the dates right, the 2025 season hasnt started
2023 National Championship was Michigan and Washington, both teams were trash this year. 2024 they were blown out by both OSU and ND ND just let the game get closer than it really was at the end they were dominating so much.
And no one wants to go north in January or February, same reason why the SB is almost always in the south. People want to get away from the cold, not fly into weather delays from snow storms or arctic winds.
Nonsense. If the game were played in Detroit, people like me who live in Ohio would want to go. The lions sold out every game this year.
Michigan were trash this year? They beat your beloved crimson tide.
@Basebal21 said:
Should at least get the dates right, the 2025 season hasnt started
2023 National Championship was Michigan and Washington, both teams were trash this year. 2024 they were blown out by both OSU and ND ND just let the game get closer than it really was at the end they were dominating so much.
And no one wants to go north in January or February, same reason why the SB is almost always in the south. People want to get away from the cold, not fly into weather delays from snow storms or arctic winds.
Nonsense. If the game were played in Detroit, people like me who live in Ohio would want to go. The lions sold out every game this year.
Michigan were trash this year? They beat your beloved crimson tide.
My beloved Crimson Tide who I said before the season were going to lose 3 to 4 games and Milroe is trash? They still would have beaten Michigan if Milroe was benched at half time like Saban would have done which he did do to Tua and Hurts during their careers but Deboer let the ship sink.
If you want to go to Detroit in January or February or any time by all means do it. The NFL, and college football put the Championship in the south almost always because thats where people want to go in the winter. For college some of it is tied to bowl games as well that keeps it there other than the Indianapolis that managed to get one
Traveling south is actually a blast. I love taking my wife places in the south that she’s never been and just blowing her mind with how stupid people are in some of these places. Two coats.
@Basebal21 said:
Should at least get the dates right, the 2025 season hasnt started
2023 National Championship was Michigan and Washington, both teams were trash this year. 2024 they were blown out by both OSU and ND ND just let the game get closer than it really was at the end they were dominating so much.
And no one wants to go north in January or February, same reason why the SB is almost always in the south. People want to get away from the cold, not fly into weather delays from snow storms or arctic winds.
Nonsense. If the game were played in Detroit, people like me who live in Ohio would want to go. The lions sold out every game this year.
Michigan were trash this year? They beat your beloved crimson tide.
My beloved Crimson Tide who I said before the season were going to lose 3 to 4 games and Milroe is trash? They still would have beaten Michigan if Milroe was benched at half time like Saban would have done which he did do to Tua and Hurts during their careers but Deboer let the ship sink.
If you want to go to Detroit in January or February or any time by all means do it. The NFL, and college football put the Championship in the south almost always because thats where people want to go in the winter. For college some of it is tied to bowl games as well that keeps it there other than the Indianapolis that managed to get one
If a hope and a dream was made of coffee and cream we would all be wide awake.
@bgr said:
Traveling south is actually a blast. I love taking my wife places in the south that she’s never been and just blowing her mind with how stupid people are in some of these places. Two coats.
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Bgr travels south and spends his money.... and then calls us stupid... ....y'all come back now ya heah.
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The NFL, and college football put the Championship in the south almost always because thats where people want to go in the winter.
I remember this movie line, "If you build it they will come" or something like that. Trust me, if they played the NCAA Championship game in Wisconsin people would go. If they played it in Happy Valley people would go. Myself, I'm sort of bored with the rotation of Cotton Bowl/Orange Bowl/Sugar Bowl/Peach Bowl, rinse and repeat. The game should be played at those locations, definitely, but it should be moved to other locations as well.
To the NFL, it behooves me to understand how the league has never figured out how to have the Super Bowl played somehow at/near the HOF in Canton.
@bgr said:
Traveling south is actually a blast. I love taking my wife places in the south that she’s never been and just blowing her mind with how stupid people are in some of these places. Two coats.
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Bgr travels south and spends his money.... and then calls us stupid... ....y'all come back now ya heah.
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I didn’t call you stupid or anyone at the individual level. It’s well-established that southern states have meaningfully lower IQs in the aggregate. These statistics are published and available via internet search. While IQ and intelligence are not the same thing, and IQ is meaningless at a certain point, there is a correlation.
So yes. I do ironically enjoy visiting the southern part of the country. There are morons everywhere, but southern latitudes… best bang for your buck. Been to Louisiana? Probably the highest concentration on the planet.
@Maywood said: The NFL, and college football put the Championship in the south almost always because thats where people want to go in the winter.
I remember this movie line, "If you build it they will come" or something like that. Trust me, if they played the NCAA Championship game in Wisconsin people would go. If they played it in Happy Valley people would go. Myself, I'm sort of bored with the rotation of Cotton Bowl/Orange Bowl/Sugar Bowl/Peach Bowl, rinse and repeat. The game should be played at those locations, definitely, but it should be moved to other locations as well.
To the NFL, it behooves me to understand how the league has never figured out how to have the Super Bowl played somehow at/near the HOF in Canton.
They could play the games on Antarctica and people would go for the SB and college championship. Doesnt change the fact that if you did a poll of the fans, players, coaches, owners, schools etc they would rather go south to Dallas, Miami, Atlanta etc than to Detroit or Cleveland etc.
The majority of people want to go south in the winter for nicer weather and to get away from the cold. The leagues know it and schedule accordingly.
The real surprise was Indianapolis getting a CFP championship just like the Minnesota one was a surprise for the NFL
Assuming this refers to the more recent Super Bowl in Minnesota as there was another in 92. Assuming such, I think that it’s been somewhat of a pattern that new stadiums get Super Bowls. Not sure how surprising it was. We kind of expected it here in MN.
I love taking my wife places in the south that she’s never been and just blowing her mind with how stupid people are in some of these places.
You sure as heck don't need to go to the south for stupid people - they're everywhere nowadays.
For sure. I wasn't making a serious comment. I thought we were talking trash so I was manipulating a couple established facts to take a jab at the south - I'm lookin' at you Memphis TN!
hey @Steven59, game is still real early but looks about as advertised. Notre Dame relies heavily on Leonard's running, Ohio State has a more balanced offense and hence, more options.
I'm sort of aggravated that I have to follow along online, had planned on going to my sisters to watch but our furnace crashed in the middle of the night. Made an emergency call, serviceman was here by 8AM and had things back to normal around 4PM. Thermostat got down to about 48, bbrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!! Figures it would happen on the coldest day of winter so far.
This game is moving right along, three possessions each and closing in on halftime. If the Buckeyes score here and get the 2nd half kickoff it could be lights out Irish.
@Maywood.
21-7 - looking good so far. I'm "watching" the ESPN gamecast on my computer too. Weird time to start a National Championship game at 7;30. And yeah - the first quarter flew by........
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
Ballgame!! It ended close but Ohio State seemed like the superior team most of the game. Hard to believe that Will Howard had more run yardage than Leonard. And I think the playoffs and this game should put to rest all the mid/late season naysaying about Will Howard. He came up big time in the biggest games, but I know at least one member here who will make excuses for that.
Go Buckeyes. Wherever you are @Bullsitter, I know you enjoyed the game, y'all stay safe.
In the whole scheme of things I think the real "winner" was the CFP committee and fans around the country who had been clamoring for an expanded playoff or something more than the way it had been. There's still room for improvement. It is incredible to view any NCAA football program which has lost 2-3 games as having failed. In the past, even losing one game has been viewed as failing. That's just not realistic. Add to that the "historical success bias" and you have what college fans have lived with for decades. These recent changes to the format are hard for many fans to accept, but my life has proven to me that change is inevitable and almost always beneficial. In years to come, as they tweak the playoff format, I really think it will be immensely popular and good for college football.
@stevek, how was that?? I don't even have a soapbox but I could give the VP a run for his money when it comes to speech making!!
In the whole scheme of things I think the real "winner" was the CFP committee and fans around the country who had been clamoring for an expanded playoff or something more than the way it had been. There's still room for improvement. It is incredible to view any NCAA football program which has lost 2-3 games as having failed. In the past, even losing one game has been viewed as failing. That's just not realistic. Add to that the "historical success bias" and you have what college fans have lived with for decades. These recent changes to the format are hard for many fans to accept, but my life has proven to me that change is inevitable and almost always beneficial. In years to come, as they tweak the playoff format, I really think it will be immensely popular and good for college football.
@stevek, how was that?? I don't even have a soapbox but I could give the VP a run for his money when it comes to speech making!!
Totally agree, and it's arguable that over the years, Penn State got it the worst.
I forget the exact year, but one year last century there were four undefeated teams at the end of the season, and Penn State was ranked 4th in which that ranking was a disgrace to be that low. In my view, and many, many others, Penn State was the best football team in the land that season. But there was no playoff system, so nothing could be done about it.
And it wasn't specifically Penn State. There was a clear bias against all eastern football programs in the voting. In that particular season it was absurdity. And it wasn't just that one season. It was many years of that same voting bias.
@stevek said: It was many years of that same voting bias
That voting bias is real and it happens despite the best efforts of the voters to be objective. It's just human nature. They tried computer ranking but nobody liked it.
In the whole scheme of things I think the real "winner" was the CFP committee and fans around the country who had been clamoring for an expanded playoff or something more than the way it had been. There's still room for improvement. It is incredible to view any NCAA football program which has lost 2-3 games as having failed. In the past, even losing one game has been viewed as failing. That's just not realistic. Add to that the "historical success bias" and you have what college fans have lived with for decades. These recent changes to the format are hard for many fans to accept, but my life has proven to me that change is inevitable and almost always beneficial. In years to come, as they tweak the playoff format, I really think it will be immensely popular and good for college football.
@stevek, how was that?? I don't even have a soapbox but I could give the VP a run for his money when it comes to speech making!!
Totally agree, and it's arguable that over the years, Penn State got it the worst.
I forget the exact year, but one year last century there were four undefeated teams at the end of the season, and Penn State was ranked 4th in which that ranking was a disgrace to be that low. In my view, and many, many others, Penn State was the best football team in the land that season. But there was no playoff system, so nothing could be done about it.
And it wasn't specifically Penn State. There was a clear bias against all eastern football programs in the voting. In that particular season it was absurdity. And it wasn't just that one season. It was many years of that same voting bias.
You talking about their 12-0 Season in 1994?
That team was Stacked, Kerry Collins Ki Jana Carter
@perkdog, back in those days the NCAA didn't even acknowledge a National Champion in football. They left that herculean task up to the AP. Now there's a real hotbed of biased voting!!
In the whole scheme of things I think the real "winner" was the CFP committee and fans around the country who had been clamoring for an expanded playoff or something more than the way it had been. There's still room for improvement. It is incredible to view any NCAA football program which has lost 2-3 games as having failed. In the past, even losing one game has been viewed as failing. That's just not realistic. Add to that the "historical success bias" and you have what college fans have lived with for decades. These recent changes to the format are hard for many fans to accept, but my life has proven to me that change is inevitable and almost always beneficial. In years to come, as they tweak the playoff format, I really think it will be immensely popular and good for college football.
@stevek, how was that?? I don't even have a soapbox but I could give the VP a run for his money when it comes to speech making!!
Totally agree, and it's arguable that over the years, Penn State got it the worst.
I forget the exact year, but one year last century there were four undefeated teams at the end of the season, and Penn State was ranked 4th in which that ranking was a disgrace to be that low. In my view, and many, many others, Penn State was the best football team in the land that season. But there was no playoff system, so nothing could be done about it.
And it wasn't specifically Penn State. There was a clear bias against all eastern football programs in the voting. In that particular season it was absurdity. And it wasn't just that one season. It was many years of that same voting bias.
You talking about their 12-0 Season in 1994?
That team was Stacked, Kerry Collins Ki Jana Carter
I can't recall the exact team, because it seemed to happen almost every year.
Another thing that used to happen. Penn State would lose one stinking close game, and they often dropped out of the top ten in the next week's voting. The winning team could be ranked #1 and Penn State could be ranked #2, and then with the loss, drop out of the top ten. It would infuriate me the obvious blatant bias against eastern schools.
Fortunately with the college football playoff system now, i can focus on other things in sports that infuriate me. 😉
@bgr said:
It's so cold here that school was cancelled for my kids tomorrow. If the furnace goes out....
You must be way up north - schools around Fargo are only 2 hrs late (right now temp is -18 and wind chill is -40)
dumbass southerner here with a query. how do those little tykes dodge frostbite when it dips that low? i can't imagine their exposed skin being able to hang for long. what, 10-15 mins perhaps?
i just remember all of the postgame amputations after the KC-Miami playoff game last year and it wasn't as cold as it is in Fargo today. granted they were in it for ~3 hours, but still.
@Maywood said: @stevek said: It was many years of that same voting bias
That voting bias is real and it happens despite the best efforts of the voters to be objective. It's just human nature. They tried computer ranking but nobody liked it.
I saw it as the best efforts of the voters not to be objective. But it's all in the past so in my view, no sense in me belaboring the point.
Penn State had a fair shot to get it done this season, but just couldn't get there. Disappointed yes, but no complaints about the rating system.
@bgr said:
It's so cold here that school was cancelled for my kids tomorrow. If the furnace goes out....
You must be way up north - schools around Fargo are only 2 hrs late (right now temp is -18 and wind chill is -40)
dumbass southerner here with a query. how do those little tykes dodge frostbite when it dips that low? i can't imagine their exposed skin being able to hang for long. what, 10-15 mins perhaps?
i just remember all of the postgame amputations after the KC-Miami playoff game last year and it wasn't as cold as it is in Fargo today. granted they were in it for ~3 hours, but still.
(p.s. at least i'm not from Louisiana!)
I was reminded of a Tom Segura joke about how - when you flush a toilet in Arkansas it bubbles up in Louisiana.
I’m going to throw everything I have at the SEC here. Boil those delicate sensibilities
On the surface those numbers are excellent fodder for flame. I do understand the nuance of intelligence, knowledge, and I.Q.
96 was the coldest I remember with air temps around -35F. Wind chills were closing on -100. It was brutal. What I remember from back then was that you could experience frost bite within 60 seconds of exposure.
Plus I get to tell me kids that “when I was a wee lad we had to shelter in tunnels under the university just to stay safe from the AIR! It would freeze you in an instant!” And it’s true enough.
My wife cheered with joy when the school texts started rolling in that school was cancelled. Keep that car in the garage.
I have mixed feelings on the CFP. It was better than anything we’ve had before but there’s work to be done. I think fans will complain because it’s not the 16 best teams - or whatever it ends up being. Not until there is more parity between the conferences. How they’re doing it though is better for college football than just plugging the top 16 teams in there. Unless this never has the effect of improving the lesser conferences. Then forget what I said. Overall I thought it was a positive step for college football. Thank you 2024.
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Lemme know when you wanna go out...
Being on the ice...Is So Very Tranquil...
One of my Ice Guys passed away not long ago...
That would be So Perfect If I Could Get Back On The Ice...
A nice gesture…Thanks. But being from California, conceptually ice fishing will likely remain in the conceptual stage. Funny story… last time I was in Minnesota was within days of when the Super Bowl game was played there. It was before Covid… perhaps 2016 or so. It was sooo cold. If I recall correctly, the temps were well below zero. And the party atmosphere downtown was unbelievable…
edited to add... sort of got sidetracked thinking about the Super Bowl and when that was. The funny part of the story is I got my picture taken next to the George Mikan statue... then elsewhere in the downtown area, there is a statue of Mary Tyler Moore. And being the good tourist, I had my picture taken there too only to receive grief from the wife for not tossing my beanie in the air. Well... that was just a bridge too far.
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That is hilarious that Arch earned more than Ewers
@perkdog said: That is hilarious that Arch earned more than Ewers
Yeah, and sat on the bench. Ewers clearly saw the writing on the wall, I just noticed today that he has opted for the Draft instead of another transfer. Can't see him going high in the draft or being successful wherever he lands. Probably a short career as a backup.
Might have something to do with his name,what being a Manning.
Should get high tv ratings this Monday
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
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About Mondays game, the ticket prices are Super Bowl territory.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
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Teams arrive in Atlanta
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What, no SEC teams in the hotbed of NCAA football?? Interesting how quickly things can change. Next year at this time we could be looking at Kansas and BYU!!
Next year is in Miami, I say they move it north of the Mason/Dixon line for a few years or if nothing else out west to get it away from the usual locations in the southeast.
This years game should've been played at Ford Field.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
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Should at least get the dates right, the 2025 season hasnt started
2023 National Championship was Michigan and Washington, both teams were trash this year. 2024 they were blown out by both OSU and ND ND just let the game get closer than it really was at the end they were dominating so much.
And no one wants to go north in January or February, same reason why the SB is almost always in the south. People want to get away from the cold, not fly into weather delays from snow storms or arctic winds.
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
Nonsense. If the game were played in Detroit, people like me who live in Ohio would want to go. The lions sold out every game this year.
Michigan were trash this year? They beat your beloved crimson tide.
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My beloved Crimson Tide who I said before the season were going to lose 3 to 4 games and Milroe is trash? They still would have beaten Michigan if Milroe was benched at half time like Saban would have done which he did do to Tua and Hurts during their careers but Deboer let the ship sink.
If you want to go to Detroit in January or February or any time by all means do it. The NFL, and college football put the Championship in the south almost always because thats where people want to go in the winter. For college some of it is tied to bowl games as well that keeps it there other than the Indianapolis that managed to get one
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
Traveling south is actually a blast. I love taking my wife places in the south that she’s never been and just blowing her mind with how stupid people are in some of these places. Two coats.
If a hope and a dream was made of coffee and cream we would all be wide awake.
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And they planted their flag in your bedroom
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Bgr travels south and spends his money.... and then calls us stupid...
....y'all come back now ya heah.
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The NFL, and college football put the Championship in the south almost always because thats where people want to go in the winter.
I remember this movie line, "If you build it they will come" or something like that. Trust me, if they played the NCAA Championship game in Wisconsin people would go. If they played it in Happy Valley people would go. Myself, I'm sort of bored with the rotation of Cotton Bowl/Orange Bowl/Sugar Bowl/Peach Bowl, rinse and repeat. The game should be played at those locations, definitely, but it should be moved to other locations as well.
To the NFL, it behooves me to understand how the league has never figured out how to have the Super Bowl played somehow at/near the HOF in Canton.
I didn’t call you stupid or anyone at the individual level. It’s well-established that southern states have meaningfully lower IQs in the aggregate. These statistics are published and available via internet search. While IQ and intelligence are not the same thing, and IQ is meaningless at a certain point, there is a correlation.
So yes. I do ironically enjoy visiting the southern part of the country. There are morons everywhere, but southern latitudes… best bang for your buck. Been to Louisiana? Probably the highest concentration on the planet.
They could play the games on Antarctica and people would go for the SB and college championship. Doesnt change the fact that if you did a poll of the fans, players, coaches, owners, schools etc they would rather go south to Dallas, Miami, Atlanta etc than to Detroit or Cleveland etc.
The majority of people want to go south in the winter for nicer weather and to get away from the cold. The leagues know it and schedule accordingly.
The real surprise was Indianapolis getting a CFP championship just like the Minnesota one was a surprise for the NFL
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
Assuming this refers to the more recent Super Bowl in Minnesota as there was another in 92. Assuming such, I think that it’s been somewhat of a pattern that new stadiums get Super Bowls. Not sure how surprising it was. We kind of expected it here in MN.
I love taking my wife places in the south that she’s never been and just blowing her mind with how stupid people are in some of these places.
You sure as heck don't need to go to the south for stupid people - they're everywhere nowadays.
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
For sure. I wasn't making a serious comment. I thought we were talking trash so I was manipulating a couple established facts to take a jab at the south - I'm lookin' at you Memphis TN!
Seems like Leonard wore himself out after the first drive
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
hey @Steven59, game is still real early but looks about as advertised. Notre Dame relies heavily on Leonard's running, Ohio State has a more balanced offense and hence, more options.
I'm sort of aggravated that I have to follow along online, had planned on going to my sisters to watch but our furnace crashed in the middle of the night. Made an emergency call, serviceman was here by 8AM and had things back to normal around 4PM. Thermostat got down to about 48, bbrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!! Figures it would happen on the coldest day of winter so far.
This game is moving right along, three possessions each and closing in on halftime. If the Buckeyes score here and get the 2nd half kickoff it could be lights out Irish.
@Maywood.
21-7 - looking good so far. I'm "watching" the ESPN gamecast on my computer too. Weird time to start a National Championship game at 7;30. And yeah - the first quarter flew by........
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
It's so cold here that school was cancelled for my kids tomorrow. If the furnace goes out....
The furnace went out for the Catholics....
Here come the Irish!!
They really needed points there to have a chance. The punt back by Ohio State might be the last possession of the night for Notre Dame.
OH, I get it - wasn't Ohio State favored by 8 1/2?
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
Oh well, so much for the point spread
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
Ballgame!! It ended close but Ohio State seemed like the superior team most of the game. Hard to believe that Will Howard had more run yardage than Leonard. And I think the playoffs and this game should put to rest all the mid/late season naysaying about Will Howard. He came up big time in the biggest games, but I know at least one member here who will make excuses for that.
Go Buckeyes. Wherever you are @Bullsitter, I know you enjoyed the game, y'all stay safe.
Good day for Ohio. Their state college team won the football championship and their native son was inaugurated VP.
Ohio State is now 7-4 all-time in College Football Playoff games. Only Alabama has more wins with 9.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
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Just remember FredJRI called it.
Congrats to OSU fans, CoolStanley, Brick and Keets, well deserved and I know yall are proud of your team....
Congrats @Maywood @coolstanley
You must be way up north - schools around Fargo are only 2 hrs late (right now temp is -18 and wind chill is -40)
Jeff Sagarin had Ohio State rated number 1 a month or two ago
Thanks for all the atta boys!!
In the whole scheme of things I think the real "winner" was the CFP committee and fans around the country who had been clamoring for an expanded playoff or something more than the way it had been. There's still room for improvement. It is incredible to view any NCAA football program which has lost 2-3 games as having failed. In the past, even losing one game has been viewed as failing. That's just not realistic. Add to that the "historical success bias" and you have what college fans have lived with for decades. These recent changes to the format are hard for many fans to accept, but my life has proven to me that change is inevitable and almost always beneficial. In years to come, as they tweak the playoff format, I really think it will be immensely popular and good for college football.
@stevek, how was that?? I don't even have a soapbox but I could give the VP a run for his money when it comes to speech making!!
Totally agree, and it's arguable that over the years, Penn State got it the worst.
I forget the exact year, but one year last century there were four undefeated teams at the end of the season, and Penn State was ranked 4th in which that ranking was a disgrace to be that low. In my view, and many, many others, Penn State was the best football team in the land that season. But there was no playoff system, so nothing could be done about it.
And it wasn't specifically Penn State. There was a clear bias against all eastern football programs in the voting. In that particular season it was absurdity. And it wasn't just that one season. It was many years of that same voting bias.
@stevek said: It was many years of that same voting bias
That voting bias is real and it happens despite the best efforts of the voters to be objective. It's just human nature. They tried computer ranking but nobody liked it.
You talking about their 12-0 Season in 1994?
That team was Stacked, Kerry Collins Ki Jana Carter
@perkdog, back in those days the NCAA didn't even acknowledge a National Champion in football. They left that herculean task up to the AP. Now there's a real hotbed of biased voting!!
I can't recall the exact team, because it seemed to happen almost every year.
Another thing that used to happen. Penn State would lose one stinking close game, and they often dropped out of the top ten in the next week's voting. The winning team could be ranked #1 and Penn State could be ranked #2, and then with the loss, drop out of the top ten. It would infuriate me the obvious blatant bias against eastern schools.
Fortunately with the college football playoff system now, i can focus on other things in sports that infuriate me. 😉
dumbass southerner here with a query. how do those little tykes dodge frostbite when it dips that low? i can't imagine their exposed skin being able to hang for long. what, 10-15 mins perhaps?
i just remember all of the postgame amputations after the KC-Miami playoff game last year and it wasn't as cold as it is in Fargo today. granted they were in it for ~3 hours, but still.
(p.s. at least i'm not from Louisiana!)
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
I saw it as the best efforts of the voters not to be objective. But it's all in the past so in my view, no sense in me belaboring the point.
Penn State had a fair shot to get it done this season, but just couldn't get there. Disappointed yes, but no complaints about the rating system.
I was reminded of a Tom Segura joke about how - when you flush a toilet in Arkansas it bubbles up in Louisiana.
I’m going to throw everything I have at the SEC here. Boil those delicate sensibilities
https://usabynumbers.com/average-iq-by-state/
On the surface those numbers are excellent fodder for flame. I do understand the nuance of intelligence, knowledge, and I.Q.
96 was the coldest I remember with air temps around -35F. Wind chills were closing on -100. It was brutal. What I remember from back then was that you could experience frost bite within 60 seconds of exposure.
Plus I get to tell me kids that “when I was a wee lad we had to shelter in tunnels under the university just to stay safe from the AIR! It would freeze you in an instant!” And it’s true enough.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gopher_Way?wprov=sfti1
My wife cheered with joy when the school texts started rolling in that school was cancelled. Keep that car in the garage.
I have mixed feelings on the CFP. It was better than anything we’ve had before but there’s work to be done. I think fans will complain because it’s not the 16 best teams - or whatever it ends up being. Not until there is more parity between the conferences. How they’re doing it though is better for college football than just plugging the top 16 teams in there. Unless this never has the effect of improving the lesser conferences. Then forget what I said. Overall I thought it was a positive step for college football. Thank you 2024.