Pro-Penn St conspiracies… now there’s something new. Screwed out of the CFP in 2016 when we won the Big 10 and beat Ohio State (OSU was picked). Lose the natty in 1994 to Nebraska because of a Tom Osborne Career Achievement bias. I don’t think Basebal’s grand conspiracy makes up for the past slights.
I'd take that. If Texas does get to the championship game, it will be the third post-season game this season that Texas has played at that stadium. (SEC title game, Peach Bowl, CFP championship). And the third game of the season vs Georgia.
That would be nice if Alabama could turn this trash to gold with a win over mighty Michigan. If they lose to a mediocre Michigan though. That’s egg on your face. If they win though. If they beat Michigan. As they should. Whoopity-doo. That is called a lose-lose.
It’s not lost on me that OSU lost to Michigan, who isn’t very good, but they did get into the CFP and that’s all they had to do. Now they have a chance to win a National Championship, which they are unlikely to accomplish. I’m pretty sure Alabama is pretty jealous of 12 other teams right now and OSU is one of them.
I have a solution to all this crap talk:
--- SEC withdraws from the CFP.
--- They play their own tournament.
--- The winner of the SEC tournament plays the winner of the CFP.
The other solution is that the SEC teams just beat their weaker opponents and that their fans stop whining.
In the end, you are what your record says you are. All the strength of schedule, quality wins, etc. is inconsequential drivel and the CFP Committee seems to have just said so. Beat the teams you should beat or schedule a bunch of teams like Mercer and run up the score, then everyone will think you're a powerhouse.
In the end the best 12 teams arent in the playoffs. It is what it is. Better teams are looking outside in while a couple teams that had very easy schedules are in. The ACC champion lost to South Carolina a week ago yet has two teams in the the playoffs.
You sound surprised at that. What part of “the top 5 conference champions are automatically in” didn’t you understand? Even without Indiana and SMU there were going to be multiple deserving teams left out in favor of weaker conference champions - it’s very rare that 5 conference champs are in the real top 12.
@burghman said:
You sound surprised at that. What part of “the top 5 conference champions are automatically in” didn’t you understand? Even without Indiana and SMU there were going to be multiple deserving teams left out in favor of weaker conference champions - it’s very rare that 5 conference champs are in the real top 12.
5 was to many but was what had to happen with the PAC 2 falling apart and 5 being locked in. Im not surprised at all by the conference champs,all being in just surprised a bit by the fact that strength of schedule meant nothing
@Basebal21 said:
to just so blatantly disregard strength of schedule is bad for the sport
SOS only matters if you actually win the games. Alabama didn't do that. Only 8 FBS wins just isn't enough.
It should matter though. Im fine with Bama being left out just not with them being being left out for a team that has no wins and the ACC getting two teams in
@Basebal21 said:
to just so blatantly disregard strength of schedule is bad for the sport
SOS only matters if you actually win the games. Alabama didn't do that. Only 8 FBS wins just isn't enough.
It should matter though. Im fine with Bama being left out just not with them being being left out for a team that has no wins and the ACC getting two teams in
Texas is ranked #3. They have zero wins against top 25 teams.
I'm just glad to be living in a time where SMU gets in over Alabama.
@Basebal21 said:
to just so blatantly disregard strength of schedule is bad for the sport
SOS only matters if you actually win the games. Alabama didn't do that. Only 8 FBS wins just isn't enough.
It should matter though. Im fine with Bama being left out just not with them being being left out for a team that has no wins and the ACC getting two teams in
Texas is ranked #3. They have zero wins against top 25 teams.
I'm just glad to be living in a time where SMU gets in over Alabama.
Texas is 5 and their 2 loses are to Georgia. PSU got lucky at 6 with a cupcake path
Strength of schedule clearly doesnt matter to the committee
@Basebal21 said:
to just so blatantly disregard strength of schedule is bad for the sport
SOS only matters if you actually win the games. Alabama didn't do that. Only 8 FBS wins just isn't enough.
It should matter though. Im fine with Bama being left out just not with them being being left out for a team that has no wins and the ACC getting two teams in
They won 8 games. 8. They lost two of the easiest games on their schedule. And got crushed in one of those. They finished 4th in their conference. They deserve to get left out in favor of a team that runs the table in their conference.
In two weeks we'll have a better understanding of relative strength of teams and conferences.
--- ACC vs. Big 10.
--- Big 10 vs. Independent.
--- SEC vs. Big 10.
--- ACC vs. SEC.
Probably the Clemson vs. Texas winner has the easier path to a semi-final game, but it should be fun watching the games and even more fun reading what members here have to say afterwards.
@Basebal21 said:
to just so blatantly disregard strength of schedule is bad for the sport
SOS only matters if you actually win the games. Alabama didn't do that. Only 8 FBS wins just isn't enough.
It should matter though. Im fine with Bama being left out just not with them being being left out for a team that has no wins and the ACC getting two teams in
They won 8 games. 8. They lost two of the easiest games on their schedule. And got crushed in one of those. They finished 4th in their conference. They deserve to get left out in favor of a team that runs the table in their conference.
Bama was 9-3. As I said im fine with Bama being left out, just not when SMU and Indiana are are in. South Carolina finishes 6th in the SEC and beat the ACC champion last week. Does strength of schedule matter or not?
@Maywood said:
In two weeks we'll have a better understanding of relative strength of teams and conferences.
--- ACC vs. Big 10.
--- Big 10 vs. Independent.
--- SEC vs. Big 10.
--- ACC vs. SEC.
Probably the Clemson vs. Texas winner has the easier path to a semi-final game, but it should be fun watching the games and even more fun reading what members here have to say afterwards.
PSU has the easiest path by far to the semi finals.
@galaxy27 said:
all this balderdash about strength of schedule
well let's see here, Oklahoma won two whole conference games this season
they squeaked by a juggernaut Auburn team that lost 7 games
and
they kicked the shit out of Alabama
someone be kind enough to tell me what type of strength that manifests for the Crimson Tide
i'll hang up and listen
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Using the current CFP TOP 25....
Bama went 3-1 against ranked teams
Texas went 0-2
ND went 2-0
OSU went 2-1
PSU went 1-2
Indiana went 0-1
and if the above teams had played Bama's schedule they would have more losses.
I get what you guys are saying about strength of schedule, but you can’t ignore the really bad losses - it can’t be just one or the other.
Bama - lost to 2 unranked teams
Texas - no losses to unranked teams
ND - 1 loss
OSU - 1 loss
PSU - no losses
Indiana - no losses
Boise St - no losses
SMU - no losses
I liked Saban’s idea - bump up to a 10 conference schedule so that there’s more of a likelihood of teams playing tough conference match-ups (solving part of the TX / IND problem) and fewer out of conference cupcakes.
I find it hilarious that the Bama AD is making a big deal of looking at his out of conference scheduling - last I heard, Vandy and Okla were IN conference so good luck with that approach. For the 50th time, beat the teams on your schedule that you’re CLEARLY better than and this isn’t a problem - they lost 2 games where they were 20+ point favorites! Every team on that list up there played multiple games where they were far less of a favorite and only ND and OSU slipped up (but only once each).
@burghman said: beat the teams on your schedule that you’re CLEARLY better than and this isn’t a problem
This is it in a nutshell. It's always been how things are looked at in the NFL, beat the teams you're supposed to beat and go .500 against the teams that are better than you and you'll be OK.
About playing "cupcakes" every season, that is how many schools are able to keep parts of their athletic programs. If the large, D-1 schools don't play 1-2 games like that per season and share the NCAA revenue those schools AD's would have to cut programs, athletic participation and scholarships would shrink and the eventuality would be bad for everyone. Those games generally get played at the very beginning of the season, though, not game 10 the way Alabama does with Mercer every year. The NCAA has to figure out some other way for these large schools to share revenue with the smaller schools to eliminate those games and allow, as @burghman suggested, for more competitive play within each conference.
Also, the NCAA has corrected one problem and created another. They expanded the field with the new playoff format but caused some schools to make decisions to join a conference that helps ensure their chances. Now we have no divisions and 20 teams per conference.
Can everyone spell realignment because change is inevitable and good if done right.
There is a precedent for Ohio State to decline. The OSU faculty counsel voted to decline the RoseBowl 1962 invitation. I believe Minnesota replaced the Buckeyes in their second and last RoseBowl.
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@galaxy27 said:
all this balderdash about strength of schedule
well let's see here, Oklahoma won two whole conference games this season
they squeaked by a juggernaut Auburn team that lost 7 games
and
they kicked the shit out of Alabama
someone be kind enough to tell me what type of strength that manifests for the Crimson Tide
i'll hang up and listen
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Using the current CFP TOP 25....
Bama went 3-1 against ranked teams
Texas went 0-2
ND went 2-0
OSU went 2-1
PSU went 1-2
Indiana went 0-1
and if the above BIG10 teams had played Bama's schedule they would have more losses.
To be fair both Texas loses were to GA but you are absolutely right that if OSU, PSU, ND or Indiana played an SEC secdule they wouldn't be in the conversation
@Bullsitter said:
What ever happened to Michigan for cheating last year?
Did they get away with it?
Harbaugh was going to get suspended and skipped town before the hammer dropped
I haven't heard anything more about it
NCAA is terrified to do anything to them. It was more than just Harbaugh but yea that was a reason he was trying to get back to the NFL so badly.
The QB recruit they flipped giving him 13 million dollars Connor Stallions was inserted as his HS coach. Its big time institutionalized but the powers right now are B!G people and are protecting their own. Theres a lot I dont really care much about, but the lack of consistency is insane
@galaxy27 said:
all this balderdash about strength of schedule
well let's see here, Oklahoma won two whole conference games this season
they squeaked by a juggernaut Auburn team that lost 7 games
and
they kicked the shit out of Alabama
someone be kind enough to tell me what type of strength that manifests for the Crimson Tide
i'll hang up and listen
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Using the current CFP TOP 25....
Bama went 3-1 against ranked teams
Texas went 0-2
ND went 2-0
OSU went 2-1
PSU went 1-2
Indiana went 0-1
and if the above BIG10 teams had played Bama's schedule they would have more losses.
To be fair both Texas loses were to GA but you are absolutely right that if OSU, PSU, ND or Indiana played an SEC secdule they wouldn't be in the conversation
If the Sec teams played Oregon's schedule, they would also not be in the conversation.
@galaxy27 said:
all this balderdash about strength of schedule
well let's see here, Oklahoma won two whole conference games this season
they squeaked by a juggernaut Auburn team that lost 7 games
and
they kicked the shit out of Alabama
someone be kind enough to tell me what type of strength that manifests for the Crimson Tide
i'll hang up and listen
.
Using the current CFP TOP 25....
Bama went 3-1 against ranked teams
Texas went 0-2
ND went 2-0
OSU went 2-1
PSU went 1-2
Indiana went 0-1
and if the above BIG10 teams had played Bama's schedule they would have more losses.
To be fair both Texas loses were to GA but you are absolutely right that if OSU, PSU, ND or Indiana played an SEC secdule they wouldn't be in the conversation
If the Sec teams played Oregon's schedule, they would also not be in the conversation.
The only question would be how many SEC teams would have dominated Oregons schedule. It would be well over 4
@galaxy27 said:
all this balderdash about strength of schedule
well let's see here, Oklahoma won two whole conference games this season
they squeaked by a juggernaut Auburn team that lost 7 games
and
they kicked the shit out of Alabama
someone be kind enough to tell me what type of strength that manifests for the Crimson Tide
i'll hang up and listen
.
Using the current CFP TOP 25....
Bama went 3-1 against ranked teams
Texas went 0-2
ND went 2-0
OSU went 2-1
PSU went 1-2
Indiana went 0-1
and if the above BIG10 teams had played Bama's schedule they would have more losses.
To be fair both Texas loses were to GA but you are absolutely right that if OSU, PSU, ND or Indiana played an SEC secdule they wouldn't be in the conversation
If the Sec teams played Oregon's schedule, they would also not be in the conversation.
The only question would be how many SEC teams would have dominated Oregons schedule. It would be well over 4
HAHAHAHAHA
Is Bama one of those 4? The same team who couldn't beat Vanderbilt and another 6-6 team?
@galaxy27 said:
all this balderdash about strength of schedule
well let's see here, Oklahoma won two whole conference games this season
they squeaked by a juggernaut Auburn team that lost 7 games
and
they kicked the shit out of Alabama
someone be kind enough to tell me what type of strength that manifests for the Crimson Tide
i'll hang up and listen
.
Using the current CFP TOP 25....
Bama went 3-1 against ranked teams
Texas went 0-2
ND went 2-0
OSU went 2-1
PSU went 1-2
Indiana went 0-1
and if the above BIG10 teams had played Bama's schedule they would have more losses.
To be fair both Texas loses were to GA but you are absolutely right that if OSU, PSU, ND or Indiana played an SEC secdule they wouldn't be in the conversation
If the Sec teams played Oregon's schedule, they would also not be in the conversation.
The only question would be how many SEC teams would have dominated Oregons schedule. It would be well over 4
HAHAHAHAHA
Is Bama one of those 4? The same team who couldn't beat Vanderbilt and another 6-6 team?
I don't know if you remember, but Bama beat Wisconsin 42-10. Doesn't that mean they would win all the games?
@galaxy27 said:
all this balderdash about strength of schedule
well let's see here, Oklahoma won two whole conference games this season
they squeaked by a juggernaut Auburn team that lost 7 games
and
they kicked the shit out of Alabama
someone be kind enough to tell me what type of strength that manifests for the Crimson Tide
i'll hang up and listen
.
Using the current CFP TOP 25....
Bama went 3-1 against ranked teams
Texas went 0-2
ND went 2-0
OSU went 2-1
PSU went 1-2
Indiana went 0-1
and if the above BIG10 teams had played Bama's schedule they would have more losses.
To be fair both Texas loses were to GA but you are absolutely right that if OSU, PSU, ND or Indiana played an SEC secdule they wouldn't be in the conversation
If the Sec teams played Oregon's schedule, they would also not be in the conversation.
The only question would be how many SEC teams would have dominated Oregons schedule. It would be well over 4
HAHAHAHAHA
Is Bama one of those 4? The same team who couldn't beat Vanderbilt and another 6-6 team?
The transitive property is definitely, absolutely, 100% accurate in football.
Ohio St < Michigan < Texas < Georgia < Alabama < Vanderbilt < Georgia St < UConn < Maryland < Penn St < Ohio St … wait a second, maybe it DOESN’T work after all
I’m sure I could have done that without PSU, but you seem to have a particular bug up your arse about them so I had to include them.
But Texas lost to Georgia who lost to Alabama who lost to Oklahoma who lost to LSU who lost to USC who lost to Maryland who lost to Rutgers who lost to Nebraska who lost to OSU. Yeah. This makes sense.
Hunter should win it being the two way player. I think he has more value in the NFL as a WR occasionally playing DB but hes doing things that really havent been seen before
Gabriel wouldnt surprise me either with a number of voters that just vote for the QB of the number 1 ranked team. Ward or Jeanty in either order would be my 3 and 4
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Pro-Penn St conspiracies… now there’s something new. Screwed out of the CFP in 2016 when we won the Big 10 and beat Ohio State (OSU was picked). Lose the natty in 1994 to Nebraska because of a Tom Osborne Career Achievement bias. I don’t think Basebal’s grand conspiracy makes up for the past slights.
And we’ll probably still lose to SMU.
Jim
I'd take that. If Texas does get to the championship game, it will be the third post-season game this season that Texas has played at that stadium. (SEC title game, Peach Bowl, CFP championship). And the third game of the season vs Georgia.
For once Alabama didnt get the benefit of the doubt. Remember last year when FSU were undefeated?
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Remember when FSU lost 63-3 to Georgia in the next game.
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
Sure only because most of their starters opted out. Alabama also lost.
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Don't worry little buddy,
Bama will take care of that team that sent you home with your tail between your legs.....13-10
And went on to be worse than Stanford the next year?
Quality of teams matter, well at least they should
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
That would be nice if Alabama could turn this trash to gold with a win over mighty Michigan. If they lose to a mediocre Michigan though. That’s egg on your face. If they win though. If they beat Michigan. As they should. Whoopity-doo. That is called a lose-lose.
It’s not lost on me that OSU lost to Michigan, who isn’t very good, but they did get into the CFP and that’s all they had to do. Now they have a chance to win a National Championship, which they are unlikely to accomplish. I’m pretty sure Alabama is pretty jealous of 12 other teams right now and OSU is one of them.
Personally I think OSU should decline the invitation to play. Even winning the Championship would not make this a good season.
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Ralph
I have a solution to all this crap talk:
--- SEC withdraws from the CFP.
--- They play their own tournament.
--- The winner of the SEC tournament plays the winner of the CFP.
The other solution is that the SEC teams just beat their weaker opponents and that their fans stop whining.
In the end, you are what your record says you are. All the strength of schedule, quality wins, etc. is inconsequential drivel and the CFP Committee seems to have just said so. Beat the teams you should beat or schedule a bunch of teams like Mercer and run up the score, then everyone will think you're a powerhouse.
In the end the best 12 teams arent in the playoffs. It is what it is. Better teams are looking outside in while a couple teams that had very easy schedules are in. The ACC champion lost to South Carolina a week ago yet has two teams in the the playoffs.
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
You sound surprised at that. What part of “the top 5 conference champions are automatically in” didn’t you understand? Even without Indiana and SMU there were going to be multiple deserving teams left out in favor of weaker conference champions - it’s very rare that 5 conference champs are in the real top 12.
Jim
5 was to many but was what had to happen with the PAC 2 falling apart and 5 being locked in. Im not surprised at all by the conference champs,all being in just surprised a bit by the fact that strength of schedule meant nothing
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
SOS only matters if you actually win the games. Alabama didn't do that. Only 8 FBS wins just isn't enough.
It should matter though. Im fine with Bama being left out just not with them being being left out for a team that has no wins and the ACC getting two teams in
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
At this point why not use SOR? The results are in. The SOS branch won’t hold.
Texas is ranked #3. They have zero wins against top 25 teams.
I'm just glad to be living in a time where SMU gets in over Alabama.
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Texas is 5 and their 2 loses are to Georgia. PSU got lucky at 6 with a cupcake path
Strength of schedule clearly doesnt matter to the committee
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
They won 8 games. 8. They lost two of the easiest games on their schedule. And got crushed in one of those. They finished 4th in their conference. They deserve to get left out in favor of a team that runs the table in their conference.
SOS? Kentucky fans might agree.
all this balderdash about strength of schedule
well let's see here, Oklahoma won two whole conference games this season
they squeaked by a juggernaut Auburn team that lost 7 games
and
they kicked the shit out of Alabama
someone be kind enough to tell me what type of strength that manifests for the Crimson Tide
i'll hang up and listen
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
In two weeks we'll have a better understanding of relative strength of teams and conferences.
--- ACC vs. Big 10.
--- Big 10 vs. Independent.
--- SEC vs. Big 10.
--- ACC vs. SEC.
Probably the Clemson vs. Texas winner has the easier path to a semi-final game, but it should be fun watching the games and even more fun reading what members here have to say afterwards.
Bama was 9-3. As I said im fine with Bama being left out, just not when SMU and Indiana are are in. South Carolina finishes 6th in the SEC and beat the ACC champion last week. Does strength of schedule matter or not?
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
PSU has the easiest path by far to the semi finals.
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
I bet OSU would love a rematch with this 7-5 team.
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Using the current CFP TOP 25....
Bama went 3-1 against ranked teams
Texas went 0-2
ND went 2-0
OSU went 2-1
PSU went 1-2
Indiana went 0-1
and if the above BIG10 teams had played Bama's schedule they would have more losses.
SEC only plays 8 conference games, so I dont want to here about their tough schedule.
Its good for the sport that the committee left out all 3 loss teams. Clemson being a conf champ was an automatic.
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I get what you guys are saying about strength of schedule, but you can’t ignore the really bad losses - it can’t be just one or the other.
Bama - lost to 2 unranked teams
Texas - no losses to unranked teams
ND - 1 loss
OSU - 1 loss
PSU - no losses
Indiana - no losses
Boise St - no losses
SMU - no losses
I liked Saban’s idea - bump up to a 10 conference schedule so that there’s more of a likelihood of teams playing tough conference match-ups (solving part of the TX / IND problem) and fewer out of conference cupcakes.
I find it hilarious that the Bama AD is making a big deal of looking at his out of conference scheduling - last I heard, Vandy and Okla were IN conference so good luck with that approach. For the 50th time, beat the teams on your schedule that you’re CLEARLY better than and this isn’t a problem - they lost 2 games where they were 20+ point favorites! Every team on that list up there played multiple games where they were far less of a favorite and only ND and OSU slipped up (but only once each).
Jim
What ever happened to Michigan for cheating last year?
Did they get away with it?
Harbaugh was going to get suspended and skipped town before the hammer dropped
I haven't heard anything more about it
@burghman said: beat the teams on your schedule that you’re CLEARLY better than and this isn’t a problem
This is it in a nutshell. It's always been how things are looked at in the NFL, beat the teams you're supposed to beat and go .500 against the teams that are better than you and you'll be OK.
About playing "cupcakes" every season, that is how many schools are able to keep parts of their athletic programs. If the large, D-1 schools don't play 1-2 games like that per season and share the NCAA revenue those schools AD's would have to cut programs, athletic participation and scholarships would shrink and the eventuality would be bad for everyone. Those games generally get played at the very beginning of the season, though, not game 10 the way Alabama does with Mercer every year. The NCAA has to figure out some other way for these large schools to share revenue with the smaller schools to eliminate those games and allow, as @burghman suggested, for more competitive play within each conference.
Also, the NCAA has corrected one problem and created another. They expanded the field with the new playoff format but caused some schools to make decisions to join a conference that helps ensure their chances. Now we have no divisions and 20 teams per conference.
Can everyone spell realignment because change is inevitable and good if done right.
Penn State and SMU have only played each other two times. Last time in 1978.
Tennessee and Ohio State have only played each other once(1996)
Now the big shocker -- Clemson and Texas have NEVER played each other.
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Just guessing that Tennessee won since you didn't brag on beating them...
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BTW....I'm pulling for OSU. I HATE TENNESSEE more than Awbern.
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That’s a perfect comparison for old Josh, and on the day of the NFL Simpsons thing too!
Jim
@Brick
There is a precedent for Ohio State to decline. The OSU faculty counsel voted to decline the RoseBowl 1962 invitation. I believe Minnesota replaced the Buckeyes in their second and last RoseBowl.
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To be fair both Texas loses were to GA but you are absolutely right that if OSU, PSU, ND or Indiana played an SEC secdule they wouldn't be in the conversation
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
NCAA is terrified to do anything to them. It was more than just Harbaugh but yea that was a reason he was trying to get back to the NFL so badly.
The QB recruit they flipped giving him 13 million dollars Connor Stallions was inserted as his HS coach. Its big time institutionalized but the powers right now are B!G people and are protecting their own. Theres a lot I dont really care much about, but the lack of consistency is insane
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
If the Sec teams played Oregon's schedule, they would also not be in the conversation.
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Portal heavy this morning
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If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas.
The 4 Heisman finalists announced:
Dillon Gabriel - BIG TEN
Ashton Jeanty - Mountain West
Travis Hunter - BIG 12
Cam Ward - ACC
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The only question would be how many SEC teams would have dominated Oregons schedule. It would be well over 4
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
HAHAHAHAHA
Is Bama one of those 4? The same team who couldn't beat Vanderbilt and another 6-6 team?
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I don't know if you remember, but Bama beat Wisconsin 42-10. Doesn't that mean they would win all the games?
OSU lost to Michigan at home.
Texas destroyed Michigan in Ann Arbor
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
The transitive property is definitely, absolutely, 100% accurate in football.
Ohio St < Michigan < Texas < Georgia < Alabama < Vanderbilt < Georgia St < UConn < Maryland < Penn St < Ohio St … wait a second, maybe it DOESN’T work after all
I’m sure I could have done that without PSU, but you seem to have a particular bug up your arse about them so I had to include them.
Jim
But Texas lost to Georgia who lost to Alabama who lost to Oklahoma who lost to LSU who lost to USC who lost to Maryland who lost to Rutgers who lost to Nebraska who lost to OSU. Yeah. This makes sense.
I'd give it Jeanty
Hunter should win it being the two way player. I think he has more value in the NFL as a WR occasionally playing DB but hes doing things that really havent been seen before
Gabriel wouldnt surprise me either with a number of voters that just vote for the QB of the number 1 ranked team. Ward or Jeanty in either order would be my 3 and 4
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007