As SEC champion Georgia can be placed no lower than 4, the same as Boise. Those two spots are locked in and another 1-4 spot will be the winner of the Penn State/Oregon game. So that's three of the top 4.
The real fly in the ointment that'll keep the committee up all night is if Clemson beats SMU in a close game. Right now it looks like a blowout.
Looking back at the rules it appears the 4 Power Conferences get the top 4 spots: Big 10, Big 12, SEC, ACC. I also am reading that if one of the 5 automatic qualifiers is ranked outside of the top 12 that they get placed in the 12 spot. That would be Arizona State.
This is starting to look like Winston Churchill's riddle inside a mystery surrounded by an enigma!!
@Maywood said:
As SEC champion Georgia can be placed no lower than 4, the same as Boise. Those two spots are locked in and another 1-4 spot will be the winner of the Penn State/Oregon game. So that's three of the top 4.
The real fly in the ointment that'll keep the committee up all night is if Clemson beats SMU in a close game. Right now it looks like a blowout.
Boise could easily end up lower than ASU after today, Boise will be in but their bye in the top 4 is in jeopardy.
Hopefully either SMU makes a massive comeback or Clemson just blows them out and SMU isnt in the conversation anymore
Boise was ranked higher than Arizona so they will place higher.
Arizona is ranked higher than Clemson so they will place higher.
According to the guidelines I read that is how it works, the highest ranked team heading into Championship weekend gets the higher 1-4 seed, number 5 is the lowest ranked Conference Champion of the top 5 Conference Champions.
@Maywood said:
Boise was ranked higher than Arizona so they will place higher.
Arizona is ranked higher than Clemson so they will place higher.
According to the guidelines I read that is how it works, the highest ranked team heading into Championship weekend gets the higher 1-4 seed, number 5 is the lowest ranked Conference Champion of the top 5 Conference Champions.
They say that all the time and then do something different. Theres really not any justification to keep Boise above ASU. Boise is lucky the Pac 2 fell apart to give them the automatic bid which was supposed to be for the power 5 conferences and then there were only 4. ASU is better than Boise without question
Oregons weak defense will get exposed in the playoffs but they should win this game
@Basebal21 said:
There was a0% chance Georgia would have been left out of the playoffs with a loss.
If they would've lost, there could've been a good case of leaving them out. They would've had 3 losses with a injured QB. So the argument would've been are they one of the 12 best teams without Beck? That's exactly what happened to FSU last year when they got screwed. Only they were undefeated.
@Basebal21 said:
There was a0% chance Georgia would have been left out of the playoffs with a loss.
If they would've lost, there could've been a good case of leaving them out. They would've had 3 losses with a injured QB. So the argument would've been are they one of the 12 best teams without Beck? That's exactly what happened to FSU last year when they got screwed. Only they were undefeated.
They could have lost by 40 and there wouldnt have been a good case to leave them out. They were 100 percent in no matter what
Theres a better case to leave PSU out who cant actually win real game or Indiana who played a joke or a schedule, and even OSU who cant beat a team that cant throw a pass
Looking back at the rules it appears the 4 Power Conferences get the top 4 spots: Big 10, Big 12, SEC, ACC. I also am reading that if one of the 5 automatic qualifiers is ranked outside of the top 12 that they get placed in the 12 spot. That would be Arizona State.
This is starting to look like Winston Churchill's riddle inside a mystery surrounded by an enigma!!
The highest ranked conference winners get the top 4 spots, but there’s nothing saying the 5th conference champion gets the 5th spot. Clemson doesn’t move to 5 with the win. Also Penn State doesn’t drop to 10 with their loss.
More likely:
Oregon
Georgia
Boise St
ASU
Texas / ND
Texas / ND / Penn St
ND / Penn St
Ohio St
Tennessee
Indiana
Clemson
SMU / Alabama
They said conference title losses wouldn’t hurt, but it’s hard to see them dropping ND all the way down to 7 so I suspect they’ll leap frog either or both TX and Penn St.
No one likes to hear me when I keep beating the drum of “beat the teams in front of you”, but… I can only think of 3 top tier Power 4 teams that haven’t lost to a team that was clearly worse than them - Oregon, Penn St, and Indiana. Any talk about those teams being kicked out in favor of 3 loss SEC teams who have losses to teams that finished .500 or worse is absurd. Recruiting rankings and brand name shouldn’t be the only factor for the playoffs - if you don’t beat the teams on your schedule, then you deserve what you get.
ETA - OK, maybe Texas qualifies as well… they were favored over GA both times, but GA is clearly better than them.
@burghman said:
No one likes to hear me when I keep beating the drum of “beat the teams in front of you”, but… I can only think of 3 top tier Power 4 teams that haven’t lost to a team that was clearly worse than them - Oregon, Penn St, and Indiana. Any talk about those teams being kicked out in favor of 3 loss SEC teams who have losses to teams that finished .500 or worse is absurd. Recruiting rankings and brand name shouldn’t be the only factor for the playoffs - if you don’t beat the teams on your schedule, then you deserve what you get.
ETA - OK, maybe Texas qualifies as well… they were favored over GA both times, but GA is clearly better than them.
Indiana doesnt have a good win
Penn State loses every time a single digit number is in from of their opponent
OSU cant even beat Michigan who Texas dominated who beat Penn State and PSU lost to Oregon.
The beat whose in front of you thing is fine for the NFL, its not close for college when all the best players and teams are in the same conference
@burghman said:
No one likes to hear me when I keep beating the drum of “beat the teams in front of you”, but… I can only think of 3 top tier Power 4 teams that haven’t lost to a team that was clearly worse than them - Oregon, Penn St, and Indiana. Any talk about those teams being kicked out in favor of 3 loss SEC teams who have losses to teams that finished .500 or worse is absurd. Recruiting rankings and brand name shouldn’t be the only factor for the playoffs - if you don’t beat the teams on your schedule, then you deserve what you get.
ETA - OK, maybe Texas qualifies as well… they were favored over GA both times, but GA is clearly better than them.
Indiana doesnt have a good win
Penn State loses every time a single digit number is in from of their opponent
OSU cant even beat Michigan who Texas dominated who beat Penn State and PSU lost to Oregon.
The beat whose in front of you thing is fine for the NFL, its not close for college when all the best players and teams are in the same conference
The same conference? HAHAHAHAHA
Alabama lost to Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt lost to Georgia State. Georgia State lost to Marshall. Ohio State beat Marshall 49-14.
Last Saturday it took EIGHT overtimes for the SEC champ to beat a 7-5 ACC team.
@burghman said:
No one likes to hear me when I keep beating the drum of “beat the teams in front of you”, but… I can only think of 3 top tier Power 4 teams that haven’t lost to a team that was clearly worse than them - Oregon, Penn St, and Indiana. Any talk about those teams being kicked out in favor of 3 loss SEC teams who have losses to teams that finished .500 or worse is absurd. Recruiting rankings and brand name shouldn’t be the only factor for the playoffs - if you don’t beat the teams on your schedule, then you deserve what you get.
ETA - OK, maybe Texas qualifies as well… they were favored over GA both times, but GA is clearly better than them.
Indiana doesnt have a good win
Penn State loses every time a single digit number is in from of their opponent
OSU cant even beat Michigan who Texas dominated who beat Penn State and PSU lost to Oregon.
The beat whose in front of you thing is fine for the NFL, its not close for college when all the best players and teams are in the same conference
The same conference? HAHAHAHAHA
Alabama lost to Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt lost to Georgia State. Georgia State lost to Marshall. Ohio State beat Marshall 49-14.
Last Saturday it took EIGHT overtimes for the SEC champ to beat a 7-5 ACC team.
OSU lost to Michigan that Texas dominated at Michigan. OSU hast won anything in half a decade
Have the SEC separate itself from the NCAA and college football, create its own college football system and not let any non SEC teams participate.
Do this for five years and let the free market decide which version of college football (SEC, or everyone else) is best.
The SEC and Big 10 will likely both split off eventually. But in the meantime, we can look at the value of the various conference’s TV contracts. Big 10 has $1.2B per year from 2023-2029 vs. $710M for the SEC from 2024-2033. Both total value ($8.4B over fewer years vs. $7.1B) and annual value favors the Big 10, so the TV people must think pretty highly of the Big 10’s product and think there are plenty of people who will watch them play for the next 5 years. And just looking at Saturday’s games, I think there are more people who like a lot of offense and if the teams were wearing no-name jerseys would have probably preferred the Big 10 game over the SEC game and their FG / missed FG kicking contest that we saw for more than half the game.
I’m not blind - I’ve said in this thread multiple times that I think there are multiple SEC teams that would beat my Penn St guys. I’m not a conference homer like the fans who literally cheer for their conference at games rather than their teams (“SEC SEC SEC SEC”… what the hell is up with that?) Our very own esteemed Basebal will bloviate forever about recruiting stars and draft picks and historical records, on and on and on. But they didn’t do it on the field this season. And the funny thing is that the SEC generally DOES take care of business on the field. But in the old 4 team playoff format, they probably only get their conference championship losing team in this year because the committee NEVER considered a 3 loss team in the past - it’d probably be Oregon, Notre Dame, Texas and one of the many other 1 or 2 loss teams. Then you SEC guys could whine like FSU last year about being deserving but left out.
Have the SEC separate itself from the NCAA and college football, create its own college football system and not let any non SEC teams participate.
Do this for five years and let the free market decide which version of college football (SEC, or everyone else) is best.
The SEC and Big 10 will likely both split off eventually. But in the meantime, we can look at the value of the various conference’s TV contracts. Big 10 has $1.2B per year from 2023-2029 vs. $710M for the SEC from 2024-2033. Both total value ($8.4B over fewer years vs. $7.1B) and annual value favors the Big 10, so the TV people must think pretty highly of the Big 10’s product and think there are plenty of people who will watch them play for the next 5 years. And just looking at Saturday’s games, I think there are more people who like a lot of offense and if the teams were wearing no-name jerseys would have probably preferred the Big 10 game over the SEC game and their FG / missed FG kicking contest that we saw for more than half the game.
I’m not blind - I’ve said in this thread multiple times that I think there are multiple SEC teams that would beat my Penn St guys. I’m not a conference homer like the fans who literally cheer for their conference at games rather than their teams (“SEC SEC SEC SEC”… what the hell is up with that?) Our very own esteemed Basebal will bloviate forever about recruiting stars and draft picks and historical records, on and on and on. But they didn’t do it on the field this season. And the funny thing is that the SEC generally DOES take care of business on the field. But in the old 4 team playoff format, they probably only get their conference championship losing team in this year because the committee NEVER considered a 3 loss team in the past - it’d probably be Oregon, Notre Dame, Texas and one of the many other 1 or 2 loss teams. Then you SEC guys could whine like FSU last year about being deserving but left out.
The whole SEC thing is just TV pumping in noise, has been for years. No one is happier in the SEC than another team seeing another lose. They all want to see everyone else lose.
Warren messed up the B!G tv deal where they didnt get extra money for new teams which is why Oregon and Washington are taking a half media share after begging to be accepted taking away money from the other teams until the next deal and he left for the Bears before getting fired.
They without question did it on the field this season, the simple fact is that other than 3 maybe 4 teams the B!G teams are just bad. 4 is being generous too. Alabama is supposedly the 6th bes SEC team and they killed Wisconsin in Wisconsin. Texas killed Michigan at Michigan. The top talent that will dominate the draft is in one conference
Bama is one of the top 12 teams, I have no doubt about that. Ole Miss probably is too. And they might beat 3 or 4 of the Big 10 teams that will make the playoff. Beat Vandy or beat Oklahoma and Bama is in. Beat Kentucky, LSU, or Florida and Ole Miss is in. Bama and Ole Miss are better than those teams but couldn’t come through to beat them. It was that simple, but they couldn’t do it. I don’t care that they beat those other teams you keep mentioning, at some point your record and performance DO matter. When you have 3 losses, it’s more about who you lost to than who you beat - it’s always been that way when you have that many blemishes. Lose fewer games and don’t leave it up to some committee’s or pollster’s opinion.
Wild finish in SMU/Clemson. Switched channels for a few seconds assuming with 16 seconds left game would go to OT. Switched back to see Clemson celebrating after a FG. Teach me to vacate a game until 0:00 on clock.
Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
There are 2 different conversations happening here - the SEC guys talking about how great their conference is, and the others talking about how teams fit into the CFP. The SEC agreed to the rules so your teams can’t boot qualifying teams regardless of SOS, common opponents, etc. I’m not arguing that you don’t have… maybe 6? of the top 12 teams. Just win your freaking games and you ‘ll get your 4 or maybe 5 teams in the CFP. Continue having your top teams lose to the dregs of the SEC and this is what happens with the CFP.
I can make up an arbitrary rule too - any teams that lose to a team with a record of .500 or worse don’t qualify. If you can’t beat a mediocre or bad team then you clearly aren’t a top team (/sarcasm). That seems just as fair as SOS.
My karma for all this arguing will be Penn St getting 5, Bama getting 12, a nice snowstorm in Happy Valley on Dec 20-21, and Bama beating the crap out of us in round 1
The ranking system and who should be in or out higher thing is waaaaaaaay above my pay grade so I don't get involved with that but I will say if my feet were held to the fire I can't say with absolute certainty who I think the front runner to win it all is.
Oregon's D didn't look like a national champion D last night and in my opinion I thought they were a step above everyone else, now I'm not sure
None of the 3 loss SEC teams should make the playoffs. It is really as simple as that.
I think every team in the playoffs has a legitimate shot at winning the whole thing. There are no truly dominant teams this year.
The idea that a 3 loss Alabama team that lost to Vanderbilt and Oklahoma somehow deserves a spot in the CFP is utter nonsense. All they had to do was take care of business against either Vanderbilt or Oklahoma and they would be in. Win on the field, seems like a pretty simple concept.
That said, I think the committee is definitely going to screw over SMU and put Alabama or Miami in ahead of them. That definitely should not happen but in the end, who really cares about the last at-large spot in the CFP??? None of the teams vying for it actually deserve to make the playoffs. The fact is that Alabama, MIami, South Carolina, Ole MIss, SMU could all beat any team in the top 11 and could lose to any team in the top 50 or so. They are all flawed teams.
Have the SEC separate itself from the NCAA and college football, create its own college football system and not let any non SEC teams participate.
Do this for five years and let the free market decide which version of college football (SEC, or everyone else) is best.
The SEC and Big 10 will likely both split off eventually. But in the meantime, we can look at the value of the various conference’s TV contracts. Big 10 has $1.2B per year from 2023-2029 vs. $710M for the SEC from 2024-2033. Both total value ($8.4B over fewer years vs. $7.1B) and annual value favors the Big 10, so the TV people must think pretty highly of the Big 10’s product and think there are plenty of people who will watch them play for the next 5 years. And just looking at Saturday’s games, I think there are more people who like a lot of offense and if the teams were wearing no-name jerseys would have probably preferred the Big 10 game over the SEC game and their FG / missed FG kicking contest that we saw for more than half the game.
I’m not blind - I’ve said in this thread multiple times that I think there are multiple SEC teams that would beat my Penn St guys. I’m not a conference homer like the fans who literally cheer for their conference at games rather than their teams (“SEC SEC SEC SEC”… what the hell is up with that?) Our very own esteemed Basebal will bloviate forever about recruiting stars and draft picks and historical records, on and on and on. But they didn’t do it on the field this season. And the funny thing is that the SEC generally DOES take care of business on the field. But in the old 4 team playoff format, they probably only get their conference championship losing team in this year because the committee NEVER considered a 3 loss team in the past - it’d probably be Oregon, Notre Dame, Texas and one of the many other 1 or 2 loss teams. Then you SEC guys could whine like FSU last year about being deserving but left out.
The whole SEC thing is just TV pumping in noise, has been for years. No one is happier in the SEC than another team seeing another lose. They all want to see everyone else lose.
Warren messed up the B!G tv deal where they didnt get extra money for new teams which is why Oregon and Washington are taking a half media share after begging to be accepted taking away money from the other teams until the next deal and he left for the Bears before getting fired.
They without question did it on the field this season, the simple fact is that other than 3 maybe 4 teams the B!G teams are just bad. 4 is being generous too. Alabama is supposedly the 6th bes SEC team and they killed Wisconsin in Wisconsin. Texas killed Michigan at Michigan. The top talent that will dominate the draft is in one conference
I can say this with confidence. You don’t know anything about Kevin’s deal.
I think they got it right. As i mentioned in an earlier post, I’m surprised that Notre Dame didn’t jump Penn St but I’m glad that the committee stuck to their statement about not being penalized for losses in conference championship games.
Gotta say I like the Penn St draw. Not gonna be easy, but getting a team from Texas up into the cold should help. Cmon snow!
Got no problem with being left out, I even said so after the Oklahoma loss.
Congrats to the fans of the teams that got in. Going to be some great games.
We get Indiana/Notre Dame and SMU/Penn State, boy, it just doesn't get any better than that.
The problem isnt really that Bama was left out its that they were left out for SMU. SMU played no one except Clemson and they lost that game. Pitt and Louisville are average teams, even for an ACC schedule SMU had the easiest draw you could get. The ACC absolutely does not deserve to have 2 teams in the playoffs so yes if the choice was SMU or Bama it should have been Bama.
Its bad enough we have to have Clemson and Boise, but now we have ND Indiana and SMU too. I understand that this current committee is overwhelmingly B!G people but to just so blatantly disregard strength of schedule is bad for the sport
If Penn State doesnt make the semi finals with that joke of a path they need to fire Franklin on the spot
Forgot to mention. the dumbest part of all of it is that SMU is ranked ahead of Clemson even though Clemson literally just beat them. Obviously they did that to give PSU the easier match up so whatever. Fortunately several members of this committee this is their final year
Nonsense of the voting aside and I am happy that were at 12 (soon to be 14 or 16), Oregon really got screwed. They didnt do a great job thinking this out when the number 6 team has by far the easiest path and the number 1 team has a the hardest out of the teams with a bye
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12 teams in this year, not 4.
There was a0% chance Georgia would have been left out of the playoffs with a loss.
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
UGA playoff chances??? They were in no matter what.
As SEC champion Georgia can be placed no lower than 4, the same as Boise. Those two spots are locked in and another 1-4 spot will be the winner of the Penn State/Oregon game. So that's three of the top 4.
The real fly in the ointment that'll keep the committee up all night is if Clemson beats SMU in a close game. Right now it looks like a blowout.
Does this make sense??
Looking back at the rules it appears the 4 Power Conferences get the top 4 spots: Big 10, Big 12, SEC, ACC. I also am reading that if one of the 5 automatic qualifiers is ranked outside of the top 12 that they get placed in the 12 spot. That would be Arizona State.
This is starting to look like Winston Churchill's riddle inside a mystery surrounded by an enigma!!
Boise could easily end up lower than ASU after today, Boise will be in but their bye in the top 4 is in jeopardy.
Hopefully either SMU makes a massive comeback or Clemson just blows them out and SMU isnt in the conversation anymore
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
I don’t see how ASU would jump Boise. Gonna have to dust off my abacus and find my beakers for this one.
Boise was ranked higher than Arizona so they will place higher.
Arizona is ranked higher than Clemson so they will place higher.
According to the guidelines I read that is how it works, the highest ranked team heading into Championship weekend gets the higher 1-4 seed, number 5 is the lowest ranked Conference Champion of the top 5 Conference Champions.
And the Nittany Lions are fighting back.
They say that all the time and then do something different. Theres really not any justification to keep Boise above ASU. Boise is lucky the Pac 2 fell apart to give them the automatic bid which was supposed to be for the power 5 conferences and then there were only 4. ASU is better than Boise without question
Oregons weak defense will get exposed in the playoffs but they should win this game
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
If they would've lost, there could've been a good case of leaving them out. They would've had 3 losses with a injured QB. So the argument would've been are they one of the 12 best teams without Beck? That's exactly what happened to FSU last year when they got screwed. Only they were undefeated.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ignore list -Basebal21
They could have lost by 40 and there wouldnt have been a good case to leave them out. They were 100 percent in no matter what
Theres a better case to leave PSU out who cant actually win real game or Indiana who played a joke or a schedule, and even OSU who cant beat a team that cant throw a pass
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
Yikes. Sounds like some very hurt feelings.
What a disaster. Clemson barely beating SMU. SMU better be out
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
The highest ranked conference winners get the top 4 spots, but there’s nothing saying the 5th conference champion gets the 5th spot. Clemson doesn’t move to 5 with the win. Also Penn State doesn’t drop to 10 with their loss.
More likely:
They said conference title losses wouldn’t hurt, but it’s hard to see them dropping ND all the way down to 7 so I suspect they’ll leap frog either or both TX and Penn St.
Jim
No one likes to hear me when I keep beating the drum of “beat the teams in front of you”, but… I can only think of 3 top tier Power 4 teams that haven’t lost to a team that was clearly worse than them - Oregon, Penn St, and Indiana. Any talk about those teams being kicked out in favor of 3 loss SEC teams who have losses to teams that finished .500 or worse is absurd. Recruiting rankings and brand name shouldn’t be the only factor for the playoffs - if you don’t beat the teams on your schedule, then you deserve what you get.
ETA - OK, maybe Texas qualifies as well… they were favored over GA both times, but GA is clearly better than them.
Jim
The tv announcers from the Clemson SMU game said SMU deserves to be in the playoffs. I hope they are right. I like their quarterback.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ignore list -Basebal21
This should be the 12 teams.
Oregon
Georgia
Arizona State
Boise State
Clemson
Texas
Notre Dame
Penn State
Ohio State
Tennessee
SMU
Indiana
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ignore list -Basebal21
Indiana doesnt have a good win
Penn State loses every time a single digit number is in from of their opponent
OSU cant even beat Michigan who Texas dominated who beat Penn State and PSU lost to Oregon.
The beat whose in front of you thing is fine for the NFL, its not close for college when all the best players and teams are in the same conference
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
How about this?
Have the SEC separate itself from the NCAA and college football, create its own college football system and not let any non SEC teams participate.
Do this for five years and let the free market decide which version of college football (SEC, or everyone else) is best.
The same conference? HAHAHAHAHA
Alabama lost to Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt lost to Georgia State. Georgia State lost to Marshall. Ohio State beat Marshall 49-14.
Last Saturday it took EIGHT overtimes for the SEC champ to beat a 7-5 ACC team.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ignore list -Basebal21
OSU lost to Michigan that Texas dominated at Michigan. OSU hast won anything in half a decade
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
The SEC and Big 10 will likely both split off eventually. But in the meantime, we can look at the value of the various conference’s TV contracts. Big 10 has $1.2B per year from 2023-2029 vs. $710M for the SEC from 2024-2033. Both total value ($8.4B over fewer years vs. $7.1B) and annual value favors the Big 10, so the TV people must think pretty highly of the Big 10’s product and think there are plenty of people who will watch them play for the next 5 years. And just looking at Saturday’s games, I think there are more people who like a lot of offense and if the teams were wearing no-name jerseys would have probably preferred the Big 10 game over the SEC game and their FG / missed FG kicking contest that we saw for more than half the game.
I’m not blind - I’ve said in this thread multiple times that I think there are multiple SEC teams that would beat my Penn St guys. I’m not a conference homer like the fans who literally cheer for their conference at games rather than their teams (“SEC SEC SEC SEC”… what the hell is up with that?) Our very own esteemed Basebal will bloviate forever about recruiting stars and draft picks and historical records, on and on and on. But they didn’t do it on the field this season. And the funny thing is that the SEC generally DOES take care of business on the field. But in the old 4 team playoff format, they probably only get their conference championship losing team in this year because the committee NEVER considered a 3 loss team in the past - it’d probably be Oregon, Notre Dame, Texas and one of the many other 1 or 2 loss teams. Then you SEC guys could whine like FSU last year about being deserving but left out.
Jim
The whole SEC thing is just TV pumping in noise, has been for years. No one is happier in the SEC than another team seeing another lose. They all want to see everyone else lose.
Warren messed up the B!G tv deal where they didnt get extra money for new teams which is why Oregon and Washington are taking a half media share after begging to be accepted taking away money from the other teams until the next deal and he left for the Bears before getting fired.
They without question did it on the field this season, the simple fact is that other than 3 maybe 4 teams the B!G teams are just bad. 4 is being generous too. Alabama is supposedly the 6th bes SEC team and they killed Wisconsin in Wisconsin. Texas killed Michigan at Michigan. The top talent that will dominate the draft is in one conference
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
Bama is one of the top 12 teams, I have no doubt about that. Ole Miss probably is too. And they might beat 3 or 4 of the Big 10 teams that will make the playoff. Beat Vandy or beat Oklahoma and Bama is in. Beat Kentucky, LSU, or Florida and Ole Miss is in. Bama and Ole Miss are better than those teams but couldn’t come through to beat them. It was that simple, but they couldn’t do it. I don’t care that they beat those other teams you keep mentioning, at some point your record and performance DO matter. When you have 3 losses, it’s more about who you lost to than who you beat - it’s always been that way when you have that many blemishes. Lose fewer games and don’t leave it up to some committee’s or pollster’s opinion.
Jim
Bama beat the SEC Champ that beat Texas twice, and Texas destroyed Michigan that stomped OSU.
Love some paper football
Will strength of schedule matter? If your SOS is above 50 you shouldn't be considered....
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Wild finish in SMU/Clemson. Switched channels for a few seconds assuming with 16 seconds left game would go to OT. Switched back to see Clemson celebrating after a FG. Teach me to vacate a game until 0:00 on clock.
There are 2 different conversations happening here - the SEC guys talking about how great their conference is, and the others talking about how teams fit into the CFP. The SEC agreed to the rules so your teams can’t boot qualifying teams regardless of SOS, common opponents, etc. I’m not arguing that you don’t have… maybe 6? of the top 12 teams. Just win your freaking games and you ‘ll get your 4 or maybe 5 teams in the CFP. Continue having your top teams lose to the dregs of the SEC and this is what happens with the CFP.
I can make up an arbitrary rule too - any teams that lose to a team with a record of .500 or worse don’t qualify. If you can’t beat a mediocre or bad team then you clearly aren’t a top team (/sarcasm). That seems just as fair as SOS.
My karma for all this arguing will be Penn St getting 5, Bama getting 12, a nice snowstorm in Happy Valley on Dec 20-21, and Bama beating the crap out of us in round 1
Jim
The ranking system and who should be in or out higher thing is waaaaaaaay above my pay grade so I don't get involved with that but I will say if my feet were held to the fire I can't say with absolute certainty who I think the front runner to win it all is.
Oregon's D didn't look like a national champion D last night and in my opinion I thought they were a step above everyone else, now I'm not sure
Should be interesting
None of the 3 loss SEC teams should make the playoffs. It is really as simple as that.
I think every team in the playoffs has a legitimate shot at winning the whole thing. There are no truly dominant teams this year.
The idea that a 3 loss Alabama team that lost to Vanderbilt and Oklahoma somehow deserves a spot in the CFP is utter nonsense. All they had to do was take care of business against either Vanderbilt or Oklahoma and they would be in. Win on the field, seems like a pretty simple concept.
That said, I think the committee is definitely going to screw over SMU and put Alabama or Miami in ahead of them. That definitely should not happen but in the end, who really cares about the last at-large spot in the CFP??? None of the teams vying for it actually deserve to make the playoffs. The fact is that Alabama, MIami, South Carolina, Ole MIss, SMU could all beat any team in the top 11 and could lose to any team in the top 50 or so. They are all flawed teams.
Robb
I can say this with confidence. You don’t know anything about Kevin’s deal.
OMG. Haha. Here we go.
Bama lost to not one, but two 6-6 teams, and tossed in another L to boot
that debacle in Oklahoma sealed their fate
they had no business being included and the committee got it right
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
I think they got it right. As i mentioned in an earlier post, I’m surprised that Notre Dame didn’t jump Penn St but I’m glad that the committee stuck to their statement about not being penalized for losses in conference championship games.
Gotta say I like the Penn St draw. Not gonna be easy, but getting a team from Texas up into the cold should help. Cmon snow!
Jim
Got no problem with being left out, I even said so after the Oklahoma loss.
Congrats to the fans of the teams that got in. Going to be some great games.
We get Indiana/Notre Dame and SMU/Penn State, boy, it just doesn't get any better than that.
I have Texas beating Georgia for the Natty
Roll Tide
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Burghman. Honestly think your posts are a bit too reasonable for these forums.
It draws the crazy out like poison from a wound.
Oh yeah, SOS doesn't mean jack squat.
Northen Illinois wins, Northen Illinois wins, Northen Illinois wins !!!
HECK YEAH !!!!!
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Remember when getting a New Year’s Day bowl game was the goal? 🤣 I miss those simpler days.
Jim
The problem isnt really that Bama was left out its that they were left out for SMU. SMU played no one except Clemson and they lost that game. Pitt and Louisville are average teams, even for an ACC schedule SMU had the easiest draw you could get. The ACC absolutely does not deserve to have 2 teams in the playoffs so yes if the choice was SMU or Bama it should have been Bama.
Its bad enough we have to have Clemson and Boise, but now we have ND Indiana and SMU too. I understand that this current committee is overwhelmingly B!G people but to just so blatantly disregard strength of schedule is bad for the sport
If Penn State doesnt make the semi finals with that joke of a path they need to fire Franklin on the spot
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
Looks like the CFP has been ruined for someone. At least it doesn’t come off as ridiculously irrational whining….
And here I thought the 100th time I hear this drivel would be the last but it’s worse than a Russian bot.
Teams in playoffs
BIG TEN - 4
SEC - 3
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ignore list -Basebal21
Forgot to mention. the dumbest part of all of it is that SMU is ranked ahead of Clemson even though Clemson literally just beat them. Obviously they did that to give PSU the easier match up so whatever. Fortunately several members of this committee this is their final year
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
what 12 should be in and how they should be ranked is tantamount to someone tossing up a raw dog across the street and asking how it'll grade out
disparate opinions abound
it is, finally, a good problem to have
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Not much love for 9,10,11,12....
I think Tennessee beats OSU, can't see them recovering from that Michigan debacle
Nonsense of the voting aside and I am happy that were at 12 (soon to be 14 or 16), Oregon really got screwed. They didnt do a great job thinking this out when the number 6 team has by far the easiest path and the number 1 team has a the hardest out of the teams with a bye
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
I hope Penn State beats SMU 84-0.
I hope it's minus 32 degrees, winds out of the north @ 40 mph and snowing ....