@Basebal21 said:
It is funny though an OSU season ticket holder leaked the presale code and Tennessee fans are getting way more tickets than they should have and OSU is begging fans not to sell their tickets to Tennessee fans
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It is funny though an OSU season ticket holder leaked the presale code and Tennessee fans are getting way more tickets than they should have and OSU is begging fans not to sell their tickets to Tennessee fans
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I knew it, I knew it....those dang cotton-picken Hillbillies are cheating again...
You seem like a reasonable dude. You sure you don’t just want to talk college football rather than join forces with captain blowhard?
@Basebal21 said:
It is funny though an OSU season ticket holder leaked the presale code and Tennessee fans are getting way more tickets than they should have and OSU is begging fans not to sell their tickets to Tennessee fans
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I knew it, I knew it....those dang cotton-picken Hillbillies are cheating again...
That is one of the better low key rivalries now that Tennessee is actually good again after Bama dominated it for so long. I do always love though the college aspect where fans just do really funny things
But Bama lost to bad teams and got rolled by one of them.
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Bad teams......are you nuts?
Bama losses...Vandy, Tennessee and Oklahoma and all 3 have bowl games.......
Vanderbilt played four games against teams with winning records and went 1-3 against them. You know who the 1 is. They're terrible.
Pavia played the last month of the season hurt. Hes not an NFL guy but a good college guy and they didnt really have another option. Terrible isnt the right word
But Bama lost to bad teams and got rolled by one of them.
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Bad teams......are you nuts?
Bama losses...Vandy, Tennessee and Oklahoma and all 3 have bowl games.......
Vanderbilt played four games against teams with winning records and went 1-3 against them. You know who the 1 is. They're terrible.
Pavia played the last month of the season hurt. Hes not an NFL guy but a good college guy and they didnt really have another option. Terrible isnt the right word
What's your excuse for them losing against Georgia State?
But Bama lost to bad teams and got rolled by one of them.
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Bad teams......are you nuts?
Bama losses...Vandy, Tennessee and Oklahoma and all 3 have bowl games.......
Vanderbilt played four games against teams with winning records and went 1-3 against them. You know who the 1 is. They're terrible.
Pavia played the last month of the season hurt. Hes not an NFL guy but a good college guy and they didnt really have another option. Terrible isnt the right word
What's your excuse for them losing against Georgia State?
The two worst loses in the playoffs by a mile are OSU losing to Michigan at home and ND losing to NIU at home.
But Bama lost to bad teams and got rolled by one of them.
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Bad teams......are you nuts?
Bama losses...Vandy, Tennessee and Oklahoma and all 3 have bowl games.......
Vanderbilt played four games against teams with winning records and went 1-3 against them. You know who the 1 is. They're terrible.
Pavia played the last month of the season hurt. Hes not an NFL guy but a good college guy and they didnt really have another option. Terrible isnt the right word
What's your excuse for them losing against Georgia State?
The two worst loses in the playoffs by a mile are OSU losing to Michigan at home and ND losing to NIU at home.
Disagree. The two worst losses was Bama getting beat by Vanderbilt, and them losing by 3 touchdowns against Oklahoma.
But Bama lost to bad teams and got rolled by one of them.
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Bad teams......are you nuts?
Bama losses...Vandy, Tennessee and Oklahoma and all 3 have bowl games.......
Vanderbilt played four games against teams with winning records and went 1-3 against them. You know who the 1 is. They're terrible.
Pavia played the last month of the season hurt. Hes not an NFL guy but a good college guy and they didnt really have another option. Terrible isnt the right word
What's your excuse for them losing against Georgia State?
The two worst loses in the playoffs by a mile are OSU losing to Michigan at home and ND losing to NIU at home.
Disagree. The two worst losses was Bama getting beat by Vanderbilt, and them losing by 3 touchdowns against Oklahoma.
Theres nothing to disagree about. NIU beating ND was the worst loss in the country by far. OSU losing to a terrible Michigan team at home as 21 point favorites wasnt far behind
Jim Harbaugh is a good coach but he seems to be a little over the top and too much for his players and superiors. In short, he just doesn't seem like he plays well with others. He worked his way to the top with the 49ers but then got chased out of the NFL to the NCAA, got chased back to the NFL and his clock is running. It'll be interesting to see how long he lasts and what the end will be.
There have been legendary upsets in College Football history. To write that the Vanderbilt’s upset of Alabama is the greatest of all time merely ignores a rich history deserving of far more respect than what Finebaum contemplated. Sure- it was a great upset and one that clearly ranks high if such a list/project were to be undertaken.
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Jim Harbaugh is a good coach but he seems to be a little over the top and too much for his players and superiors. In short, he just doesn't seem like he plays well with others. He worked his way to the top with the 49ers but then got chased out of the NFL to the NCAA, got chased back to the NFL and his clock is running. It'll be interesting to see how long he lasts and what the end will be.
He is a weird dude, I get a kick out of his antics and meltdowns
I think that is true in a general way, especially at the beginning, but things I've read tend to say that he can be abrasive and turn players away, just too intense long term. I would not want to be a Head Football Coach at any level in today's world with today's athletes and fans. It requires part disciplinarian, part loving Father, part diplomat and most importantly part teacher.
Harbaugh is generally liked by players. He was going to get banned like Carroll but the NCAA is to scared to do anything now. Coaching in the NFL is much easier than a college coach with players under contract with no options and most never reaching free agency.
Maybe he’s a spider. That might explain why the NCAA is scared. All those legs…. The eyes. I get it.
But if he’s not a spider then I don’t know why they’re scared. I think that if someone is making these disparaging claims against the NCAA they should back them up with a bit more substance.
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I think the playoffs are wide open. Outside of ASU, Indiana - I think there can be upsets. I suspect Boise State & SMU would be hard-pressed to win it all but I think the 12-team field is a success so far. 12 is the right number, as opposed to 16. Teams should be rewarded a bye for running the regular season gauntlet.
Getting sidetracked here but I think NCAA football needs another level of championship games of teams between FCS and BCS -- unlikely a Georgia Southern or Akron, if they went undefeated, would compete well in this format.
The auomatic byes are the problem with the current format. Theres no way Boise should have a bye and theres a strong argument they dont belong at all. Im fine with ASU getting in and they could certainly win a game but they dont deserve a bye either.
16 is a better number now that we have at least 3 teams left out of the playoffs who are better than at least 3 of the teams that are in. 12 would work much better if we had a committee that actually knows what theyre doing and we didnt have the auto byes.
As if there werent enough mistakes already an ACC crew that has been suspended in the past for being incompetent, and even cost Tennessee a game in over time from such incompetence has been assigned to the Tennessee OSU game.
One of the most interesting facts about Army football is that they handed Norte Dame two back to back losses in 1944 and 1945 by a combined score of 103-0. That was back in the days of Doc Blanchard and Glen Davis…
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Every service academy player will not serve as an officer. You have 2 years to leave and the best ones have been doing so. Armys best player entered the portal hours after the Army Navy Game, Paul Skenes spent his first two years at Air Force. There was another former Army pitcher in the CWS last year.
Army is 40-8 and 4 against ND and hasnt beaten ND since 1958. They're 0-16 during that time. Even Navy is 4-13 since 2007 when Navy had that crazy run beating them and is 81-13-1 overall.
At the end of the day these are service academies that dont have sports are the priority and only make minimal exceptions for players. There are multiple paths into the academies that dont require a congressional nomination.
Army Navy is the best game of the year but its just silly to try and somehow turn service academy things into why some power conference team would be bad. They would all be bad
I really need to train some chatbots to just babble with Basebal21 on here. That would be so fun to watch. Just a bunch of out of sync conversations that meander this way and that confronting and contradicting aimlessly.
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Every service academy player will not serve as an officer. You have 2 years to leave and the best ones have been doing so. Armys best player entered the portal hours after the Army Navy Game, Paul Skenes spent his first two years at Air Force. There was another former Army pitcher in the CWS last year.
Army is 40-8 and 4 against ND and hasnt beaten ND since 1958. They're 0-16 during that time. Even Navy is 4-13 since 2007 when Navy had that crazy run beating them and is 81-13-1 overall.
At the end of the day these are service academies that dont have sports are the priority and only make minimal exceptions for players. There are multiple paths into the academies that dont require a congressional nomination.
Army Navy is the best game of the year but its just silly to try and somehow turn service academy things into why some power conference team would be bad. They would all be bad
They all have military commitments after they graduate correct?
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It is amazing to me how some people have the capability of never admitting they are wrong or never admitting they don't know something. It does make for laughs and entertainment.
@Basebal21 said:
Every service academy player will not serve as an officer. You have 2 years to leave and the best ones have been doing so. Armys best player entered the portal hours after the Army Navy Game, Paul Skenes spent his first two years at Air Force. There was another former Army pitcher in the CWS last year.
Army is 40-8 and 4 against ND and hasnt beaten ND since 1958. They're 0-16 during that time. Even Navy is 4-13 since 2007 when Navy had that crazy run beating them and is 81-13-1 overall.
At the end of the day these are service academies that dont have sports are the priority and only make minimal exceptions for players. There are multiple paths into the academies that dont require a congressional nomination.
Army Navy is the best game of the year but its just silly to try and somehow turn service academy things into why some power conference team would be bad. They would all be bad
They all have military commitments after they graduate correct?
Yes for the short answer. There have been some periods where if you got drafted high enough they would let you peruse that but that was very rare. I believe last year was the last year they were allowed to jump directly to the pros. Usually you have to serve 2 years then can go pro and finish things out in the reserves. The two years hurts the baseball players the most.
For the ones that havent graduated theres varying things that can happen. The enlisted members that get accepted from a recommendation no matter what they stay in the military if they leave or fail out. The ones not in the military already have 2 years to leave if they want and it does happen with every class at every academy for whatever reason.
Once the third year starts if you fail out or try an leave you go to enlisted or possibly the prep school or face paying the bill back. That part of the policy may have changed as I havent kept up with it but the 3rd year is the lock in year. My father is a Naval Academy graduate and I was accepted there but turned it down because of the pro sports policies at the time. I didnt really like the Army RB entering the portal the same day as the Army Navy Game but I can understand it. Waiting till the next day doesnt seem like it would really make any difference
I didn’t know any of that. It’s interesting. I have a good friend who graduated from the Air Force Academy. I recall him saying the service requirements were the longest there. I believe he said his was 8 years. But I could easily be misremembering. He was a pilot.
@bgr said:
I didn’t know any of that. It’s interesting. I have a good friend who graduated from the Air Force Academy. I recall him saying the service requirements were the longest there. I believe he said his was 8 years. But I could easily be misremembering. He was a pilot.
Pilots have longer commitments from the amount of time it takes to train them at all the academies. Its 5 years for graduates at service academies that arent pilots and the less only applies to athletes that can go pro and they do the rest in the reserves instead of being on active duty the whole time.
In college basketball the D-1 National Tournament at one time (1939-1950) involved only 8 teams.
It eventually expended, going to 16 teams, then to 22-25 teams, then to 32 teams (in 1975), to 40 teams (in 1979), to 48 teams (in 1980), to 64 teams (in 1985), to 68 teams (in 2011). The NCAA has considered expanding to 96 teams and even to 128 teams.
With each expansion, there remains teams which do not get bids (and complain bitterly that they deserved to get a bid and were wrongfully excluded by the selection committee [who are biased in favor of and against other teams]).
The same thing is playing out this year in the 12 team football playoffs (as it did previously with 4 team playoffs). If the tournament expands to 16 teams (and 24 and 32), the same thing will happen.
How about duplicating what Indiana and/or Iowa high schools do (or did) with respect to basketball (I understand that Indiana and/or Iowa have or had a statewide tournament where every high school in the state played in an annual state tournament). Every team was given a chance to become a Cinderella.
Play an abbreviated regular season (6 or 7 games) and then have a national tournament for each division of competition at the college level.
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How about duplicating what Indiana and/or Iowa high schools do (or did) with respect to basketball (I understand that Indiana and/or Iowa have or had a statewide tournament where every high school in the state played in an annual state tournament). Every team was given a chance to become a Cinderella.
Indiana had that but got rid of it beginning with the 97/98 season.
I didn't bother doing the bowl picks this year. Not the same as it used to be. With the portal and hold outs, most of the bowl games now all seem like crapshoots. That said, I will still watch most of them.
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You seem like a reasonable dude. You sure you don’t just want to talk college football rather than join forces with captain blowhard?
That is one of the better low key rivalries now that Tennessee is actually good again after Bama dominated it for so long. I do always love though the college aspect where fans just do really funny things
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Vanderbilt played four games against teams with winning records and went 1-3 against them. You know who the 1 is. They're terrible.
Pavia played the last month of the season hurt. Hes not an NFL guy but a good college guy and they didnt really have another option. Terrible isnt the right word
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What's your excuse for them losing against Georgia State?
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The two worst loses in the playoffs by a mile are OSU losing to Michigan at home and ND losing to NIU at home.
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Disagree. The two worst losses was Bama getting beat by Vanderbilt, and them losing by 3 touchdowns against Oklahoma.
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Theres nothing to disagree about. NIU beating ND was the worst loss in the country by far. OSU losing to a terrible Michigan team at home as 21 point favorites wasnt far behind
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Both NIU and Michigan have better records than the two terrible teams Bama lost to. So nice try.
Even Finebaum said the Vanderbilt loss was the biggest upset in history.
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Won the Natty and got caught cheating, now that's terrible, right Jim?
Jim Harbaugh is a good coach but he seems to be a little over the top and too much for his players and superiors. In short, he just doesn't seem like he plays well with others. He worked his way to the top with the 49ers but then got chased out of the NFL to the NCAA, got chased back to the NFL and his clock is running. It'll be interesting to see how long he lasts and what the end will be.
There have been legendary upsets in College Football history. To write that the Vanderbilt’s upset of Alabama is the greatest of all time merely ignores a rich history deserving of far more respect than what Finebaum contemplated. Sure- it was a great upset and one that clearly ranks high if such a list/project were to be undertaken.
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He is a weird dude, I get a kick out of his antics and meltdowns
Big pick up for Auburn getting Jackson Arnold from the portal.
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Horrendous one sided officiating but a hell of a game for Navy and now gets the CIC as well. Best atmosphere by far
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Marshall are conference champions.
NEWS: Marshall is opting out of the Independence Bowl vs. Army,
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The Thundering Herd have lost over 25 players to the Transfer Portal
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How many more bowl games will get cancelled?
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The Independence bowl isnt canceled. Louisiana Tech is filling in after the departure of the Marshall players when their coach left for Southern Miss
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Harbaugh's players love him.
No SEC players in the top 10 for the Heisman this year.
@Tabe said: Harbaugh's players love him.
I think that is true in a general way, especially at the beginning, but things I've read tend to say that he can be abrasive and turn players away, just too intense long term. I would not want to be a Head Football Coach at any level in today's world with today's athletes and fans. It requires part disciplinarian, part loving Father, part diplomat and most importantly part teacher.
That's a tough act.
And sadly a head coach seems to only be as good as the last game.
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Jim is merely working on his grading skills between plays.
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Harbaugh is generally liked by players. He was going to get banned like Carroll but the NCAA is to scared to do anything now. Coaching in the NFL is much easier than a college coach with players under contract with no options and most never reaching free agency.
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Maybe he’s a spider. That might explain why the NCAA is scared. All those legs…. The eyes. I get it.
But if he’s not a spider then I don’t know why they’re scared. I think that if someone is making these disparaging claims against the NCAA they should back them up with a bit more substance.
Up close tarantula photo wasn't what I expected, opening up this thread. Ugh!
I think the playoffs are wide open. Outside of ASU, Indiana - I think there can be upsets. I suspect Boise State & SMU would be hard-pressed to win it all but I think the 12-team field is a success so far. 12 is the right number, as opposed to 16. Teams should be rewarded a bye for running the regular season gauntlet.
Getting sidetracked here but I think NCAA football needs another level of championship games of teams between FCS and BCS -- unlikely a Georgia Southern or Akron, if they went undefeated, would compete well in this format.
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The auomatic byes are the problem with the current format. Theres no way Boise should have a bye and theres a strong argument they dont belong at all. Im fine with ASU getting in and they could certainly win a game but they dont deserve a bye either.
16 is a better number now that we have at least 3 teams left out of the playoffs who are better than at least 3 of the teams that are in. 12 would work much better if we had a committee that actually knows what theyre doing and we didnt have the auto byes.
As if there werent enough mistakes already an ACC crew that has been suspended in the past for being incompetent, and even cost Tennessee a game in over time from such incompetence has been assigned to the Tennessee OSU game.
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If the Vols lose it will be because of the officials.
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One of the most interesting facts about Army football is that they handed Norte Dame two back to back losses in 1944 and 1945 by a combined score of 103-0. That was back in the days of Doc Blanchard and Glen Davis…
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
Every service academy player will not serve as an officer. You have 2 years to leave and the best ones have been doing so. Armys best player entered the portal hours after the Army Navy Game, Paul Skenes spent his first two years at Air Force. There was another former Army pitcher in the CWS last year.
Army is 40-8 and 4 against ND and hasnt beaten ND since 1958. They're 0-16 during that time. Even Navy is 4-13 since 2007 when Navy had that crazy run beating them and is 81-13-1 overall.
At the end of the day these are service academies that dont have sports are the priority and only make minimal exceptions for players. There are multiple paths into the academies that dont require a congressional nomination.
Army Navy is the best game of the year but its just silly to try and somehow turn service academy things into why some power conference team would be bad. They would all be bad
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
I really need to train some chatbots to just babble with Basebal21 on here. That would be so fun to watch. Just a bunch of out of sync conversations that meander this way and that confronting and contradicting aimlessly.
Actually Army is 8-40-4 with ND.
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They all have military commitments after they graduate correct?
@bgr said: I really need to train some chatbots to just babble with Basebal21 on here.
When you do that please PM!!
It is amazing to me how some people have the capability of never admitting they are wrong or never admitting they don't know something. It does make for laughs and entertainment.
Yes for the short answer. There have been some periods where if you got drafted high enough they would let you peruse that but that was very rare. I believe last year was the last year they were allowed to jump directly to the pros. Usually you have to serve 2 years then can go pro and finish things out in the reserves. The two years hurts the baseball players the most.
For the ones that havent graduated theres varying things that can happen. The enlisted members that get accepted from a recommendation no matter what they stay in the military if they leave or fail out. The ones not in the military already have 2 years to leave if they want and it does happen with every class at every academy for whatever reason.
Once the third year starts if you fail out or try an leave you go to enlisted or possibly the prep school or face paying the bill back. That part of the policy may have changed as I havent kept up with it but the 3rd year is the lock in year. My father is a Naval Academy graduate and I was accepted there but turned it down because of the pro sports policies at the time. I didnt really like the Army RB entering the portal the same day as the Army Navy Game but I can understand it. Waiting till the next day doesnt seem like it would really make any difference
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Here we go again, let's pretend I know everything. Please stop already and let's talk about College Football.
I didn’t know any of that. It’s interesting. I have a good friend who graduated from the Air Force Academy. I recall him saying the service requirements were the longest there. I believe he said his was 8 years. But I could easily be misremembering. He was a pilot.
Pilots have longer commitments from the amount of time it takes to train them at all the academies. Its 5 years for graduates at service academies that arent pilots and the less only applies to athletes that can go pro and they do the rest in the reserves instead of being on active duty the whole time.
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
In college basketball the D-1 National Tournament at one time (1939-1950) involved only 8 teams.
It eventually expended, going to 16 teams, then to 22-25 teams, then to 32 teams (in 1975), to 40 teams (in 1979), to 48 teams (in 1980), to 64 teams (in 1985), to 68 teams (in 2011). The NCAA has considered expanding to 96 teams and even to 128 teams.
With each expansion, there remains teams which do not get bids (and complain bitterly that they deserved to get a bid and were wrongfully excluded by the selection committee [who are biased in favor of and against other teams]).
The same thing is playing out this year in the 12 team football playoffs (as it did previously with 4 team playoffs). If the tournament expands to 16 teams (and 24 and 32), the same thing will happen.
How about duplicating what Indiana and/or Iowa high schools do (or did) with respect to basketball (I understand that Indiana and/or Iowa have or had a statewide tournament where every high school in the state played in an annual state tournament). Every team was given a chance to become a Cinderella.
Play an abbreviated regular season (6 or 7 games) and then have a national tournament for each division of competition at the college level.
Indiana had that but got rid of it beginning with the 97/98 season.
Playoff weekend. Indiana @ Notre Dame tonight.
I didn't bother doing the bowl picks this year. Not the same as it used to be. With the portal and hold outs, most of the bowl games now all seem like crapshoots. That said, I will still watch most of them.
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Georgia would have won it all if Beck would have played.
Just getting this ready for deployment.
Offhand, I am just not able to recall the year or even the decade when Indiana played ND last-probably the 1940s if not earlier
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What a brutal first half. ND should be up by significantly more than they are and neither team looks good at all.
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Indiana looking like a High School team so far tonight!
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
So Indiana saves their best with 2 minutes to play. 2 TD's in the last 2 minutes. Too little too late.
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