@Basebal21 and @Bullsitter, we get it that you two are upset that Alabama was left out. You should console yourselves with two things: enjoying the upcoming ReliaQuest Bowl where the 'Tide should punch Michigan in the mouth --- and --- realizing that the SEC has a really good shot at playing in and winning the Championship Game.
there just needs to be more on strength of schedule.
By this logic Michigan would've qualified for the playoffs. After the regular season, they ranked 7th in SOS.
Would have better a better choice than Indiana if it had to be a B!G team which the committee decided it had to be. Its funny too that someone seems to think im a Bama fan
Its pretty easy to see how the committee set a bracket and worked backwards to defend it. The Michigan AD who is the chairman has contradicted himself multiple times about it.
They wanted the OSU Oregon rematch, the Texas Clemson two Texas HS QBs rematch from the state championship, the battle of Indiana. PSU SMU were just the left over teams and they wanted to give PSU a super easy path to the semis
I don’t think the committee did anything other than select the top 4 ranked conf champions in order. Then seeded them in order.
Then they took the next 8 at large straight from the rankings. They did the basic what they said they would generally do. I don’t think there’s any conspiracy here. If you don’t like the seeding you mean you don’t like the rankings.
@bgr said:
I don’t think the committee did anything other than select the top 4 ranked conf champions in order. Then seeded them in order.
Then they took the next 8 at large straight from the rankings. They did the basic what they said they would generally do. I don’t think there’s any conspiracy here. If you don’t like the seeding you mean you don’t like the rankings.
This is exactly right. You can debate if these were the best rules, but they did do exactly what the rules said. The only decision they really made was whether SMU dropped out with a loss or not.
@bgr said:
I don’t think the committee did anything other than select the top 4 ranked conf champions in order. Then seeded them in order.
Then they took the next 8 at large straight from the rankings. They did the basic what they said they would generally do. I don’t think there’s any conspiracy here. If you don’t like the seeding you mean you don’t like the rankings.
This is exactly right. You can debate if these were the best rules, but they did do exactly what the rules said. The only decision they really made was whether SMU dropped out with a loss or not.
Did they? SMU lost by a field goal to Clemson in their championship game. A game the committee said they would not let hurt a teams rankings. It really seems like they just took the path of least resistance. My point is that there’s zero conspiracy here and the committee isn’t pulling any strings.
Maybe if SMU got blown out they could have swapped Bama in.
Watching the games the two teams that didn't belong in the playoffs were Tennessee and Indiana. SMU got crushed but their QB missed a wide open player on 4th down on their first drive deep in PSU territory and then threw two back breaking pick 6s. So at least there was a reason they didn't play well (poor QB play). Tennessee & Indiana just got the s**t kicked out of them.
So for all the SEC and/or B10 homers, the reality is that neither of those conferences were amazing this season. Sure the top two SEC teams and the top two (or maybe three depending on how PSU does) are very good, but there was a significant drop after those teams.
@perkdog said:
I'm curious if Georgia will play better without Beck at QB
Also I'm thinking Oregon vs Ohio State will be tough to top the game they already played
Gunners a big step down in terms of experience but an upgrade in terms of talent. Beck had a bad year but not everything was on him as they lead the nation in drops. Gunners the more talented of the two but will make some stupid throws sometimes and a playoff game is a tough first start to a career. As of now Beck is still trying to play but I would be shocked if Georgia isnt treating Gunner as QB1 in practice
Football players probably need to stop dating the Cavinder twins. One of the Cowboys players is dating one and their season goes to crap, Beck starts dating the other one and has a terrible year and might need TJ surgery.
@fergie23 said:
Watching the games the two teams that didn't belong in the playoffs were Tennessee and Indiana. SMU got crushed but their QB missed a wide open player on 4th down on their first drive deep in PSU territory and then threw two back breaking pick 6s. So at least there was a reason they didn't play well (poor QB play). Tennessee & Indiana just got the s**t kicked out of them.
So for all the SEC and/or B10 homers, the reality is that neither of those conferences were amazing this season. Sure the top two SEC teams and the top two (or maybe three depending on how PSU does) are very good, but there was a significant drop after those teams.
Robb
Not sure how you could come to the conclusion that Tennessee didnt belong because of poor defensive play calling and them turn around and say SMU should have been there but they have a terrible QB that isnt good enough. Tennessee deserved to be there, they coached scared defensively just like when OSU coached scared against Michigan.
SMU and Indiana had no business being there. The SEC was the best conference top to bottom by far. That said because of the portal and NIL there wasnt an 800 pound gorilla this season. The gap between the best teams and the other teams did close and the talent is more spread out instead of having 5 stars sitting on the bench waiting for their turn, The top players go somewhere they will start and then transfer after a year or two to a better program
I dont see any evidence that the SEC is the best conference. If you take away sec cupcake wins they do late in their season, several teams like Oklahoma and Vanderbilt would not have qualified for bowl games.
@coolstanley said:
I dont see any evidence that the SEC is the best conference. If you take away sec cupcake wins they do late in their season, several teams like Oklahoma and Vanderbilt would not have qualified for bowl games.
You already posted evidence of it trying to defend Indiana. If the Indiana number is accurate than 8 SEC teams had a top 10 hardest schedule in the country. If the Indiana number matters they all matter.
The SEC will have the most players drafted again for the 18th or 19th year in a row.
Again it doesnt matter if you play a cupcake week one or week 10. All that means is that you played a harder game earlier
@coolstanley said:
I dont see any evidence that the SEC is the best conference. If you take away sec cupcake wins they do late in their season, several teams like Oklahoma and Vanderbilt would not have qualified for bowl games.
You already posted evidence of it trying to defend Indiana. If the Indiana number is accurate than 8 SEC teams had a top 10 hardest schedule in the country. If the Indiana number matters they all matter.
The SEC will have the most players drafted again for the 18th or 19th year in a row.
Again it doesnt matter if you play a cupcake week one or week 10. All that means is that you played a harder game earlier
SOS don't mean squat. Michigan had the #55 SOS last year and went undefeated.
At this point I’m unsure we’re all living in the same reality. I think what we’re experiencing in here is crosstalk from another universe where things are quite different.
The weird narrative about the Tennessee play calling is so bizarre. Just insane.
The weird narrative about the Tennessee play calling is so bizarre. Just insane.
here let me give you a translation: hell will freeze over before i'll admit that an SEC school had no business being in the playoffs, so where can i turn............where can i turn...........where can i turn.............damnit where can i turn.............i've got it!...........they actually deserved to be there, the play calling just sucked
you can't put a price tag on that type of amusement
The weird narrative about the Tennessee play calling is so bizarre. Just insane.
here let me give you a translation: hell will freeze over before i'll admit that an SEC school had no business being in the playoffs, so where can i turn............where can i turn...........where can i turn.............damnit where can i turn.............i've got it!...........they actually deserved to be there, the play calling just sucked
you can't put a price tag on that type of amusement
Or you could have just actually watched how they played all year. This idea of an SEC fan cracks me up to no end. No one is happier they lost than other SEC teams. The only thing SEC teams enjoy more than their own success is others failure. Im a NAVY fan that wont apologize for talking football. Theres no argument that Tennessee shouldnt have been in the playoffs
@coolstanley said:
I dont see any evidence that the SEC is the best conference. If you take away sec cupcake wins they do late in their season, several teams like Oklahoma and Vanderbilt would not have qualified for bowl games.
You already posted evidence of it trying to defend Indiana. If the Indiana number is accurate than 8 SEC teams had a top 10 hardest schedule in the country. If the Indiana number matters they all matter.
The SEC will have the most players drafted again for the 18th or 19th year in a row.
Again it doesnt matter if you play a cupcake week one or week 10. All that means is that you played a harder game earlier
SOS don't mean squat. Michigan had the #55 SOS last year and went undefeated.
Multiple teams have done the same thing without the egregious cheating.
If SOS means nothing theres no reason to have a season, They can all just play a FCS teams every week and ND can lose and be left out and then we can build the playoffs off of roster talent since no one played anyone if SOS means nothing
The weird narrative about the Tennessee play calling is so bizarre. Just insane.
here let me give you a translation: hell will freeze over before i'll admit that an SEC school had no business being in the playoffs, so where can i turn............where can i turn...........where can i turn.............damnit where can i turn.............i've got it!...........they actually deserved to be there, the play calling just sucked
you can't put a price tag on that type of amusement
Or you could have just actually watched how they played all year. This idea of an SEC fan cracks me up to no end. No one is happier they lost than other SEC teams. The only thing SEC teams enjoy more than their own success is others failure. Im a NAVY fan that wont apologize for talking football. Theres no argument that Tennessee shouldnt have been in the playoffs
They got burnt dropping 7 and they got burnt bringing pressure. They just got toasted. Did you see the 2nd series? Watch it again.
@coolstanley said:
I dont see any evidence that the SEC is the best conference. If you take away sec cupcake wins they do late in their season, several teams like Oklahoma and Vanderbilt would not have qualified for bowl games.
You already posted evidence of it trying to defend Indiana. If the Indiana number is accurate than 8 SEC teams had a top 10 hardest schedule in the country. If the Indiana number matters they all matter.
The SEC will have the most players drafted again for the 18th or 19th year in a row.
Again it doesnt matter if you play a cupcake week one or week 10. All that means is that you played a harder game earlier
SOS don't mean squat. Michigan had the #55 SOS last year and went undefeated.
Multiple teams have done the same thing without the egregious cheating.
If SOS means nothing theres no reason to have a season, They can all just play a FCS teams every week and ND can lose and be left out and then we can build the playoffs off of roster talent since no one played anyone if SOS means nothing
Strength of record means more. Strength of schedule is great if you have quality wins and quality losses. When you lose to Kentucky at home you watch CFP on TV.
Conferences schedule the in conference games so they can’t all just play FCS teams every week. Pants. On. Fire.
No team is going to be punished going 12-1 just because they didn’t have to play the best teams in the conference that year. Indiana didn’t lose to their Vanderbilt and their Oklahoma.
You’re never going to be able to understand any of this so whatever man. Merry Christmas.
here's what you're not understanding. if you're a perennial powerhouse and lose to inferior teams like Oklahoma and Vanderbilt, you open the door for a lesser team from a lesser conference with a lesser schedule to usurp you if they handle their business. at that point you have no one to blame but yourself, because if you had truly played like a deserving playoff participant, you'd be in like flynn and a team like SMU would have no say, regardless of what they accomplished. Alabama had all the leverage before the season started. the moment they crapped the bed not once, but twice, said leverage was g-o-n-e and they absolutely, positively, 1000% received the fate they deserved.
The SEC has been the dominant conference in college football for probably two decades. But that has shifted lately due to several factors. It's anyone's guess what happens going forward, especially with the injury to Carson Beck. It has all pushed the talking heads at ESPN into near panic at times because they are so invested in the SEC. Fans need to remember that the tide turns fast in Sports. Examples for me are TCU had made a run for a few years but has all but vanished from relevance, Clemson who had a nice run but has slipped lately and Alabama who is always in the mix suddenly struggling. Sports is cyclical and it has always amazed me how some schools maintain excellence as long as they do.
Tennessee lost by 2.5x as many points to a team ranked lower than Indiana's opponent but Indiana is the team that didn't belong?
As I said blowouts arent the problem they happen all the time. They happened a lot in the 4 team playoff, they happen a ton in even the national championship game. Youy have to go back to 2018 to find a Natty that wasnt a blowout, but those teams had won a playoff game to get there and deserved to be there. Blowouts only become an issue when its whether or not the team actually deserved to be in that spot in the first place.
here's what you're not understanding. if you're a perennial powerhouse and lose to inferior teams like Oklahoma and Vanderbilt, you open the door for a lesser team from a lesser conference with a lesser schedule to usurp you if they handle their business. at that point you have no one to blame but yourself, because if you had truly played like a deserving playoff participant, you'd be in like flynn and a team like SMU would have no say, regardless of what they accomplished. Alabama had all the leverage before the season started. the moment they crapped the bed not once, but twice, said leverage was g-o-n-e and they absolutely, positively, 1000% received the fate they deserved.
I fully get that Bama and Ole Miss crapped the bed on a game but that doesnt change what the other options to fill those spots are either or that a team is skating into the playoffs because of an absurdly easy schedule. Just as a side note though Oklahoma is actually a lot better than their record their coach is just awful and benched their QB who has since transferred for a nobody and gave some games away. Indianas only decent win was Michigan and that only looks good because OSU crapped the bed against them. Their second best win was Washington. The two times they played a team that had a pulse was OSU and ND and it was clear that their roster of 20 percent JMU transfers wasnt going to cut it.
SMU isnt much better. They beat Louisville who was disappointing this year and lost to BYU and Clemson. I can get the argument of not penalizing them for the loss in the ACC championship game but that also shows the importance of the rankings going into that week. They never should have been ranked as high as they were for beating bad ACC teams and the ACC was absolutely down this year. SMU didnt have to play Miami, they didnt have to play GT, they didnt have to play Clemson in the regular season, they ended up with a schedule that just consisted of the bottom of the conference teams other than Louisville. They should have been ranked in a spot where the winner of SMU Clemson gets in and the loser goes home
There were at least 3 teams that despite the extra loss had a better resume than those two. You could really even argue Miami as well just because of their QB with Ward even though their defense is bad. Scheduling and the strength of it absolutely played a big impact on these playoffs. Hopefully that gets fixed going forward but if were going to just look at win loss record we might as well go back to a 4 team playoff and conference divisions
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@Basebal21 and @Bullsitter, we get it that you two are upset that Alabama was left out. You should console yourselves with two things: enjoying the upcoming ReliaQuest Bowl where the 'Tide should punch Michigan in the mouth --- and --- realizing that the SEC has a really good shot at playing in and winning the Championship Game.
But for pity sake, get over the Alabama thing.
You the one that keeps bringing it up, maybe practice what you preach....
there just needs to be more on strength of schedule.
By this logic Michigan would've qualified for the playoffs. After the regular season, they ranked 7th in SOS.
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Would have better a better choice than Indiana if it had to be a B!G team which the committee decided it had to be. Its funny too that someone seems to think im a Bama fan
Its pretty easy to see how the committee set a bracket and worked backwards to defend it. The Michigan AD who is the chairman has contradicted himself multiple times about it.
They wanted the OSU Oregon rematch, the Texas Clemson two Texas HS QBs rematch from the state championship, the battle of Indiana. PSU SMU were just the left over teams and they wanted to give PSU a super easy path to the semis
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I would guess LSU based on the Cajun reasoning I see.
I don’t think the committee did anything other than select the top 4 ranked conf champions in order. Then seeded them in order.
Then they took the next 8 at large straight from the rankings. They did the basic what they said they would generally do. I don’t think there’s any conspiracy here. If you don’t like the seeding you mean you don’t like the rankings.
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SOS
Alabama - 22
Penn State - 27
Indiana - 31
SMU - 34
Ole Miss - 36
Not that big of a difference.
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If any team got hosed, its Oregon. They are playing their first round of playoff as an underdog undefeated #1 ranked team.
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Thats the ESPN ratings that had the top 5 all SEC teams.
8 of the top 10 teams are SEC teams from that ranking.
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I think last night proved that having Tennessee and Alabama on your schedule isn’t quite the gauntlet you try to make it out to be.
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This is exactly right. You can debate if these were the best rules, but they did do exactly what the rules said. The only decision they really made was whether SMU dropped out with a loss or not.
Every one is laughing at Tennessee for how they coached that game. Every one is also laughing at OSU for how scared they were against Michigan.
The fact though is that the list you cited to justify Indianas strength of schedule has 5 SEC teams as the top 5 and 8 of the top 10.
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And? Both Bama and Ole Miss didnt have a top 10 SOS according to that list. So why do you keep crying they didnt make the playoffs?
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@coolstanley said: Both Bama and Ole Miss didnt have a top 10 SOS according to that list. So why do you keep crying they didnt make the playoffs?
Well put, standby for the dodge and weave that'll be wrapped in convoluted logic.
Did they? SMU lost by a field goal to Clemson in their championship game. A game the committee said they would not let hurt a teams rankings. It really seems like they just took the path of least resistance. My point is that there’s zero conspiracy here and the committee isn’t pulling any strings.
Maybe if SMU got blown out they could have swapped Bama in.
Actually, the Penn State- Southern Methodist game was a re-match of the 1948 Cotton Bowl…
Better late than never… but then again…I suspect some here will argue the point.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
I'm curious if Georgia will play better without Beck at QB
Also I'm thinking Oregon vs Ohio State will be tough to top the game they already played
Watching the games the two teams that didn't belong in the playoffs were Tennessee and Indiana. SMU got crushed but their QB missed a wide open player on 4th down on their first drive deep in PSU territory and then threw two back breaking pick 6s. So at least there was a reason they didn't play well (poor QB play). Tennessee & Indiana just got the s**t kicked out of them.
So for all the SEC and/or B10 homers, the reality is that neither of those conferences were amazing this season. Sure the top two SEC teams and the top two (or maybe three depending on how PSU does) are very good, but there was a significant drop after those teams.
Robb
Stephen A. Smith said 'playoff games SHOULD NOT be played in brutal cold conditions."
He said "games in domes would be fine".
I didn't say it, he did, I'm just the messenger
Gunners a big step down in terms of experience but an upgrade in terms of talent. Beck had a bad year but not everything was on him as they lead the nation in drops. Gunners the more talented of the two but will make some stupid throws sometimes and a playoff game is a tough first start to a career. As of now Beck is still trying to play but I would be shocked if Georgia isnt treating Gunner as QB1 in practice
Football players probably need to stop dating the Cavinder twins. One of the Cowboys players is dating one and their season goes to crap, Beck starts dating the other one and has a terrible year and might need TJ surgery.
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
Not sure how you could come to the conclusion that Tennessee didnt belong because of poor defensive play calling and them turn around and say SMU should have been there but they have a terrible QB that isnt good enough. Tennessee deserved to be there, they coached scared defensively just like when OSU coached scared against Michigan.
SMU and Indiana had no business being there. The SEC was the best conference top to bottom by far. That said because of the portal and NIL there wasnt an 800 pound gorilla this season. The gap between the best teams and the other teams did close and the talent is more spread out instead of having 5 stars sitting on the bench waiting for their turn, The top players go somewhere they will start and then transfer after a year or two to a better program
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
I dont see any evidence that the SEC is the best conference. If you take away sec cupcake wins they do late in their season, several teams like Oklahoma and Vanderbilt would not have qualified for bowl games.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
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You already posted evidence of it trying to defend Indiana. If the Indiana number is accurate than 8 SEC teams had a top 10 hardest schedule in the country. If the Indiana number matters they all matter.
The SEC will have the most players drafted again for the 18th or 19th year in a row.
Again it doesnt matter if you play a cupcake week one or week 10. All that means is that you played a harder game earlier
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
Dodge and weave, dodge and weave!!
SOS don't mean squat. Michigan had the #55 SOS last year and went undefeated.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
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At this point I’m unsure we’re all living in the same reality. I think what we’re experiencing in here is crosstalk from another universe where things are quite different.
The weird narrative about the Tennessee play calling is so bizarre. Just insane.
here let me give you a translation: hell will freeze over before i'll admit that an SEC school had no business being in the playoffs, so where can i turn............where can i turn...........where can i turn.............damnit where can i turn.............i've got it!...........they actually deserved to be there, the play calling just sucked
you can't put a price tag on that type of amusement
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Or you could have just actually watched how they played all year. This idea of an SEC fan cracks me up to no end. No one is happier they lost than other SEC teams. The only thing SEC teams enjoy more than their own success is others failure. Im a NAVY fan that wont apologize for talking football. Theres no argument that Tennessee shouldnt have been in the playoffs
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
Multiple teams have done the same thing without the egregious cheating.
If SOS means nothing theres no reason to have a season, They can all just play a FCS teams every week and ND can lose and be left out and then we can build the playoffs off of roster talent since no one played anyone if SOS means nothing
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
They got burnt dropping 7 and they got burnt bringing pressure. They just got toasted. Did you see the 2nd series? Watch it again.
Strength of record means more. Strength of schedule is great if you have quality wins and quality losses. When you lose to Kentucky at home you watch CFP on TV.
Conferences schedule the in conference games so they can’t all just play FCS teams every week. Pants. On. Fire.
No team is going to be punished going 12-1 just because they didn’t have to play the best teams in the conference that year. Indiana didn’t lose to their Vanderbilt and their Oklahoma.
You’re never going to be able to understand any of this so whatever man. Merry Christmas.
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here's what you're not understanding. if you're a perennial powerhouse and lose to inferior teams like Oklahoma and Vanderbilt, you open the door for a lesser team from a lesser conference with a lesser schedule to usurp you if they handle their business. at that point you have no one to blame but yourself, because if you had truly played like a deserving playoff participant, you'd be in like flynn and a team like SMU would have no say, regardless of what they accomplished. Alabama had all the leverage before the season started. the moment they crapped the bed not once, but twice, said leverage was g-o-n-e and they absolutely, positively, 1000% received the fate they deserved.
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Even Troy Aikman and Joe Buck get it.
Tennessee lost by 2.5x as many points to a team ranked lower than Indiana's opponent but Indiana is the team that didn't belong?
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The SEC has been the dominant conference in college football for probably two decades. But that has shifted lately due to several factors. It's anyone's guess what happens going forward, especially with the injury to Carson Beck. It has all pushed the talking heads at ESPN into near panic at times because they are so invested in the SEC. Fans need to remember that the tide turns fast in Sports. Examples for me are TCU had made a run for a few years but has all but vanished from relevance, Clemson who had a nice run but has slipped lately and Alabama who is always in the mix suddenly struggling. Sports is cyclical and it has always amazed me how some schools maintain excellence as long as they do.
As I said blowouts arent the problem they happen all the time. They happened a lot in the 4 team playoff, they happen a ton in even the national championship game. Youy have to go back to 2018 to find a Natty that wasnt a blowout, but those teams had won a playoff game to get there and deserved to be there. Blowouts only become an issue when its whether or not the team actually deserved to be in that spot in the first place.
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
I fully get that Bama and Ole Miss crapped the bed on a game but that doesnt change what the other options to fill those spots are either or that a team is skating into the playoffs because of an absurdly easy schedule. Just as a side note though Oklahoma is actually a lot better than their record their coach is just awful and benched their QB who has since transferred for a nobody and gave some games away. Indianas only decent win was Michigan and that only looks good because OSU crapped the bed against them. Their second best win was Washington. The two times they played a team that had a pulse was OSU and ND and it was clear that their roster of 20 percent JMU transfers wasnt going to cut it.
SMU isnt much better. They beat Louisville who was disappointing this year and lost to BYU and Clemson. I can get the argument of not penalizing them for the loss in the ACC championship game but that also shows the importance of the rankings going into that week. They never should have been ranked as high as they were for beating bad ACC teams and the ACC was absolutely down this year. SMU didnt have to play Miami, they didnt have to play GT, they didnt have to play Clemson in the regular season, they ended up with a schedule that just consisted of the bottom of the conference teams other than Louisville. They should have been ranked in a spot where the winner of SMU Clemson gets in and the loser goes home
There were at least 3 teams that despite the extra loss had a better resume than those two. You could really even argue Miami as well just because of their QB with Ward even though their defense is bad. Scheduling and the strength of it absolutely played a big impact on these playoffs. Hopefully that gets fixed going forward but if were going to just look at win loss record we might as well go back to a 4 team playoff and conference divisions
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007