I was surprised by ND's defense. Hard to believe that two schools so close geographically never play, I think I heard during the broadcast that there last game was around 1990.
The committee better start caring about strength of schedule now that we have super conferences where a mediocre team like Indiana can avoid the good teams and pretend to be good. That game was horrendous. ND literally didnt even play the 4th quarter and was just waiting for the clock to run out
The committee better start caring about strength of schedule
You keep beating this drum but as usual you are wrong. The committee did care quite a bit about SOS as it had a 3 loss (including two losses to unranked teams) Alabama competing with two teams with one regular season loss a piece for the last spot in the playoffs.
No one here can say an Alabama team that got crushed by Oklahoma would have fared any better than Indiana did against Notre Dame. Basebal and some others might strongly believe Alabama would be better but none of them would have ever predicted Alabama would get demolished by Oklahoma or lose to Vandy.
Oh joy another terrible game involving a mediocre team hat had a joke of a schedule. Crappy QB giving the game away when PSU isnt really playing that well. 2 pick 6s and a missed TD pass in the first 20 minutes
Edit: Make that three picks now after Franklin tried to gift them a TD
Apparently the committee were the only "college football people" that didnt know Indiana and SMU didnt belong. Thew rest of the teams belong minus Boise but they had to be. If they were actually smart they would have matched up SMU and Indiana so they could defend it by saying one of them won a game. But they chose the money for the all Indiana match up instead
Scream at the heavens all you want, but at some point you're going to have to accept the reality of the situation. Teams that either get lucky with scheduling by their conference or choose low-quality non-conference games are going to have an advantage if they win the games they should. Alabama and Ole Miss had quality wins, but their SOR ranked them low because of their particular losses. ADs have to play the game as it exists - not as they might want it to be. Same goes for us.
As far as Lane Kiffin is concerned, he would do better to prepare his team better and worry about his own team instead of crying "sour grapes" when his THREE LOSS TEAM is left out in the cold.
Hell of a game that was actually worth watching between North Dakota State and South Dakota State in the FCS semi final. North Dakota State pulled it out 28-21 with South Dakota State getting stopped on a 4th down with a minute left
The non competitive round one games where Indiana and SMU got blown out by N.C. and PSU remind me of some blow out playoff games in the NFL (including some of the Superbowl games that have been played)
Few of any NFL fans complain about blow outs happening the NFL playoffs.
@SanctionII said:
The non competitive round one games where Indiana and SMU got blown out by N.C. and PSU remind me of some blow out playoff games in the NFL (including some of the Superbowl games that have been played)
Few of any NFL fans complain about blow outs happening the NFL playoffs.
Blowouts really arent they problem, theyve happened a lot in the playoff era. Some of the blowouts have even been exciting, the problem is when its teams that dont deserve to be there. Itd be like if an NFL team played a CFL schedule and then made the NFL playoffs. The two at large teams that had no business being there got dominated whenever they played a team with a pulse
Texas Clemson was good. Tennessee deserves to lose, for whatever reason they decided to pull a Ryan Day and coach scared and play prevent defense the first 20 minutes and are to dumb to realize it never works. They brought pressure all year until today
I don’t know if I was watching the same game but I don’t see this mismatch being a lack of them trying to bring pressure. There’s multiple flaws being exposed.
That interception was clutch though. Gave the Vols a boost.
@Basebal21 said: Blowouts really arent they problem, theyve happened a lot in the playoff era. Some of the blowouts have even been exciting, the problem is when its teams that dont deserve to be there.
It can be tough when your own words come take a bite outa your butt!! I won't say Tennessee didn't deserve to be there, they clearly earned their shot. They were just beaten by a better team, is that so hard to admit?? Consider, too, your silly strength of schedule argument. Maybe reevaluate your opinion of the SEC strength. Reevaluate a lot of things.
What has struck me about this first round of games isn't how the lower ranked teams seem weak, it's been the defense exhibited by the winning teams. Some credit has to go to them. If we want to be objective we need to consider that.
Funniest part was that after getting torched for the first 20 minutes playing prevent defense and shutting OSU down the Tennessee DC decided to go back to prevent defense again in the second half. Tennessee had significant offensive injuries in the game but ultimately cowardly defensive play calls cost them the game like cowardly offensive play calls cost OSU the game against Michigan
I will never understand how coaches can consistently decide to do something completely different and lose over and over doing it and other coaches just keep doing the same thing year after year. Do what got you there
OSU did what they should have being aggressive with their WRs and Tennessee deserved to lose not bringing pressure like they have all year. You would have thought they switched coaching staffs
Ind --- 1-0. one team remaining.
ACC --- 0-2.
Big 10 --- 2-1. three teams remaining..
SEC --- 1-1. two teams remaining.
MW --- one team remaining.
Big 12 --- one team remaining.
Big 10 vs. Big 10
Big 12 vs. SEC
Ind vs. SEC
MW vs. Big 10
It's possible that both the semi-final games and the Championship game will pit the Big 10 vs. the SEC. It is also possible that the Championship could be between two Big 10 teams or two SEC teams. It's interesting to me that with all the crazy talk about who deserves to be in the 12 team format, strength of schedule, relative strength of conferences and everything thing else, and with all the criticism we have heaped on "the committee" that we may get the games we'd all like to see.
Congrats the Tennessee DC called prevent defenses for 45 minutes of the game dropping 7 and when they actually played how they played all year they shut them down. He was either to scared or to stupid not to keep doing it. Significant injuries happened for Tennessee during the game but as I said at the start of the second quarter they deserved to lose from the scared play calling. OSU finally won something from terrible play calling by the other team.
Every SEC team is laughing their butts off at Tennessee right now and celebrating it
Makes sense. If you can’t win in the current system; change the system. I’m not arguing that anything here is perfect but the whining and crying and excuses are pretty embarrassing to see.
@Bullsitter said:
1. Why play a conference championship game.
How are you going to determine the conference champion? Back when conferences were small enough that everyone played everyone (or at least close), you had regular season results to make a clear champion. But with the giant conferences, teams don't play much of the conference, so you have to go to tiebreakers.
Georgia and Texas played for the SEC Championship even after Georgia had beaten them in the regular season.
Both teams would have gotten in without that game. Why play it and risk an injury. Georgia lost 2 players in a game that didn't need to be played.
Same with Oregon and Penn State. Oregon was undefeated and PSU had one loss. Both would have gotten in without playing that game.
Who did Notre Dame play in their Conference Championship game? Was anybody hurt?
They don't need conference championship games but there is too much money involved to stop them
Id like to see a requirement that you have to be a part of a conference in order to be eligible for the playoffs. Theres a massive advantage to ND over everyone else being able to schedule whoever they want whenever they want and not being at the mercy of a conference scheduling or potential title game. The dumbest part is that when it comes to rule changes they have a full vote like they are actually a conference.
Getting rid of independents is definitely something that needs to happen. Theres pretty much two ways to easily force ND to join a conference. Either ban independents from the playoffs or the power conferences not letting schools schedule them in the future
More playoff games is definitely better, there just needs to be more on strength of schedule.
The biggest issue really that needs to be addressed and Im not sure theres a good answer is the schedule discrepancy. Some teams got in from super easy schedules and some got left out from very hard ones. Going to 16 teams could be a solution and putting more weight on the strength of schedule is important, but with the super conferences its impossible to make sure that everyone has to play all the hard teams.
For the conference championships, this will likely never happen but one thing they could do is play the game after the playoffs. Of course that would end up with different teams with opt outs and transfers but the dirty secret is if you have national title hopes you are better not being in the title game and theres not a good fix
@bgr said:
The best idea I heard was letting the SEC have their own championship.
They just had one, and Georgia won it in OT. That one was the important one, as far as I am concerned as a Longhorn fan. The championship that we are still playing for is the consolation prize in my opinion.
@bgr said:
The best idea I heard was letting the SEC have their own championship.
They just had one, and Georgia won it in OT. That one was the important one, as far as I am concerned as a Longhorn fan. The championship that we are still playing for is the consolation prize in my opinion.
That’s not what I meant exactly. Figure it out or don’t.
@bgr said:
The best idea I heard was letting the SEC have their own championship.
They just had one, and Georgia won it in OT. That one was the important one, as far as I am concerned as a Longhorn fan. The championship that we are still playing for is the consolation prize in my opinion.
@bgr said:
The best idea I heard was letting the SEC have their own championship.
They just had one, and Georgia won it in OT. That one was the important one, as far as I am concerned as a Longhorn fan. The championship that we are still playing for is the consolation prize in my opinion.
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A real zzzzzzzzz fest.
CFP Committee
0-1 (so far).....
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Ole Miss coach:
I was surprised by ND's defense. Hard to believe that two schools so close geographically never play, I think I heard during the broadcast that there last game was around 1990.
The committee better start caring about strength of schedule now that we have super conferences where a mediocre team like Indiana can avoid the good teams and pretend to be good. That game was horrendous. ND literally didnt even play the 4th quarter and was just waiting for the clock to run out
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
Considering Notre Dame didn't even try to recover that onside kick, I was hoping somehow someway Notre Dame lost
Weird game
The committee better start caring about strength of schedule
You keep beating this drum but as usual you are wrong. The committee did care quite a bit about SOS as it had a 3 loss (including two losses to unranked teams) Alabama competing with two teams with one regular season loss a piece for the last spot in the playoffs.
No one here can say an Alabama team that got crushed by Oklahoma would have fared any better than Indiana did against Notre Dame. Basebal and some others might strongly believe Alabama would be better but none of them would have ever predicted Alabama would get demolished by Oklahoma or lose to Vandy.
Robb
After that second pick-6, SMU needs to replace their QB. The moment is too big for him.
Hopefully, he can get out of his head and start playing better. The PSU offense has been anemic and the only reason this game isn't already a blowout.
Robb
Oh joy another terrible game involving a mediocre team hat had a joke of a schedule. Crappy QB giving the game away when PSU isnt really playing that well. 2 pick 6s and a missed TD pass in the first 20 minutes
Edit: Make that three picks now after Franklin tried to gift them a TD
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
CFP Committee
0-2 after game 2.....
Apparently the committee were the only "college football people" that didnt know Indiana and SMU didnt belong. Thew rest of the teams belong minus Boise but they had to be. If they were actually smart they would have matched up SMU and Indiana so they could defend it by saying one of them won a game. But they chose the money for the all Indiana match up instead
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
Scream at the heavens all you want, but at some point you're going to have to accept the reality of the situation. Teams that either get lucky with scheduling by their conference or choose low-quality non-conference games are going to have an advantage if they win the games they should. Alabama and Ole Miss had quality wins, but their SOR ranked them low because of their particular losses. ADs have to play the game as it exists - not as they might want it to be. Same goes for us.
If Alabama or the SEC don't win there will always be at least two members who are upset and disappointed.
As far as Lane Kiffin is concerned, he would do better to prepare his team better and worry about his own team instead of crying "sour grapes" when his THREE LOSS TEAM is left out in the cold.
Hell of a game that was actually worth watching between North Dakota State and South Dakota State in the FCS semi final. North Dakota State pulled it out 28-21 with South Dakota State getting stopped on a 4th down with a minute left
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
The non competitive round one games where Indiana and SMU got blown out by N.C. and PSU remind me of some blow out playoff games in the NFL (including some of the Superbowl games that have been played)
Few of any NFL fans complain about blow outs happening the NFL playoffs.
Blowouts really arent they problem, theyve happened a lot in the playoff era. Some of the blowouts have even been exciting, the problem is when its teams that dont deserve to be there. Itd be like if an NFL team played a CFL schedule and then made the NFL playoffs. The two at large teams that had no business being there got dominated whenever they played a team with a pulse
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
Like when the Ravens played against no one in Super Bowl XXXV.
Ohio State just upset #4 Kentucky in men's basketball.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
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If all 4 of these first round playoff games suck......smh
Texas Clemson was good. Tennessee deserves to lose, for whatever reason they decided to pull a Ryan Day and coach scared and play prevent defense the first 20 minutes and are to dumb to realize it never works. They brought pressure all year until today
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
All 4 dogs are duds.
Boys came to play.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
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I don’t know if I was watching the same game but I don’t see this mismatch being a lack of them trying to bring pressure. There’s multiple flaws being exposed.
That interception was clutch though. Gave the Vols a boost.
@Basebal21 said: Blowouts really arent they problem, theyve happened a lot in the playoff era. Some of the blowouts have even been exciting, the problem is when its teams that dont deserve to be there.
It can be tough when your own words come take a bite outa your butt!! I won't say Tennessee didn't deserve to be there, they clearly earned their shot. They were just beaten by a better team, is that so hard to admit?? Consider, too, your silly strength of schedule argument. Maybe reevaluate your opinion of the SEC strength. Reevaluate a lot of things.
What has struck me about this first round of games isn't how the lower ranked teams seem weak, it's been the defense exhibited by the winning teams. Some credit has to go to them. If we want to be objective we need to consider that.
Funniest part was that after getting torched for the first 20 minutes playing prevent defense and shutting OSU down the Tennessee DC decided to go back to prevent defense again in the second half. Tennessee had significant offensive injuries in the game but ultimately cowardly defensive play calls cost them the game like cowardly offensive play calls cost OSU the game against Michigan
I will never understand how coaches can consistently decide to do something completely different and lose over and over doing it and other coaches just keep doing the same thing year after year. Do what got you there
OSU did what they should have being aggressive with their WRs and Tennessee deserved to lose not bringing pressure like they have all year. You would have thought they switched coaching staffs
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
Ind --- 1-0. one team remaining.
ACC --- 0-2.
Big 10 --- 2-1. three teams remaining..
SEC --- 1-1. two teams remaining.
MW --- one team remaining.
Big 12 --- one team remaining.
Big 10 vs. Big 10
Big 12 vs. SEC
Ind vs. SEC
MW vs. Big 10
It's possible that both the semi-final games and the Championship game will pit the Big 10 vs. the SEC. It is also possible that the Championship could be between two Big 10 teams or two SEC teams. It's interesting to me that with all the crazy talk about who deserves to be in the 12 team format, strength of schedule, relative strength of conferences and everything thing else, and with all the criticism we have heaped on "the committee" that we may get the games we'd all like to see.
Joe Klatt's response:
If your team played half as well as you tweet you would likely be in
(one of) The (three) team(s) that beat Alabama lost by 25 to a team coached by a guy that tons of people wanted fired a week ago.
We VOLunteer for the Rose Bowl.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
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Who knows what happens in the semi's but Will Howard should have at least quieted his critics with today's play.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
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Vol fans doing some flag planting before the game lol.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ignore list -Basebal21
Congrats the Tennessee DC called prevent defenses for 45 minutes of the game dropping 7 and when they actually played how they played all year they shut them down. He was either to scared or to stupid not to keep doing it. Significant injuries happened for Tennessee during the game but as I said at the start of the second quarter they deserved to lose from the scared play calling. OSU finally won something from terrible play calling by the other team.
Every SEC team is laughing their butts off at Tennessee right now and celebrating it
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
Good ole Rocky Flop, Rocky Flop 10RC....
.....they got their arse kicked while their fans froze to death.
To me the best 4 teams that have played are:
1, OSU
2. Texas
3. Penn State
4. Notre Dame
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Start us a BB Thread, you probably didn't see this one......
Beating Kentucky in basketball is much more impressive than beating Auburn. It's the equivalent of beating Alabama in football.
Ohio State - 85
Kentucky - 65
What an event. The Buckeyes destroyed two SEC powers on the same day
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
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Topics that might be discussed after the final game.
Makes sense. If you can’t win in the current system; change the system. I’m not arguing that anything here is perfect but the whining and crying and excuses are pretty embarrassing to see.
How are you going to determine the conference champion? Back when conferences were small enough that everyone played everyone (or at least close), you had regular season results to make a clear champion. But with the giant conferences, teams don't play much of the conference, so you have to go to tiebreakers.
Georgia and Texas played for the SEC Championship even after Georgia had beaten them in the regular season.
Both teams would have gotten in without that game. Why play it and risk an injury. Georgia lost 2 players in a game that didn't need to be played.
Same with Oregon and Penn State. Oregon was undefeated and PSU had one loss. Both would have gotten in without playing that game.
Who did Notre Dame play in their Conference Championship game? Was anybody hurt?
They don't need conference championship games but there is too much money involved to stop them
Id like to see a requirement that you have to be a part of a conference in order to be eligible for the playoffs. Theres a massive advantage to ND over everyone else being able to schedule whoever they want whenever they want and not being at the mercy of a conference scheduling or potential title game. The dumbest part is that when it comes to rule changes they have a full vote like they are actually a conference.
Getting rid of independents is definitely something that needs to happen. Theres pretty much two ways to easily force ND to join a conference. Either ban independents from the playoffs or the power conferences not letting schools schedule them in the future
More playoff games is definitely better, there just needs to be more on strength of schedule.
The biggest issue really that needs to be addressed and Im not sure theres a good answer is the schedule discrepancy. Some teams got in from super easy schedules and some got left out from very hard ones. Going to 16 teams could be a solution and putting more weight on the strength of schedule is important, but with the super conferences its impossible to make sure that everyone has to play all the hard teams.
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
For the conference championships, this will likely never happen but one thing they could do is play the game after the playoffs. Of course that would end up with different teams with opt outs and transfers but the dirty secret is if you have national title hopes you are better not being in the title game and theres not a good fix
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
The best idea I heard was letting the SEC have their own championship.
They just had one, and Georgia won it in OT. That one was the important one, as far as I am concerned as a Longhorn fan. The championship that we are still playing for is the consolation prize in my opinion.
I like Joel Klatt’s show. I also agree with his take on the CFP.
That’s not what I meant exactly. Figure it out or don’t.
Was just a troll comment
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
Your nonsense is the only trolling here.