Lanning admitted that he intentionally had 12 defensive players on the field on 3rd down with 10 seconds to play to waste time at the end against Ohio State - pretty ingenious. https://www.espn.com/college-football/news/story?id=2652043
If Ohio State gains a bunch of yards and is in field range, they decline and no harm to Oregon because of the 12th man
If Ohio State doesn’t get into field goal range, they almost have to accept and replay 3rd down, now with only 6 seconds remaining
The question is how will the NCAA try to change the rules to prevent this from happening in the future? Will the other team (OSU in this case) be able to opt to put time back on the clock (the opposite of running time off the clock, but unprecedented)?
Years ago, when they changed the rules to start the clock when the kicker kicks (instead of the receiver catching), Brett Bielema at Wisconsin had his team run offsides several times on the kickoff to burn 20ish seconds rather than kick to Penn St at the end of the first half. https://www.espn.com/college-football/news/story?id=2652043
They quickly changed back to the old and current approach to starting the clock on kickoffs. So I wouldn’t be surprised if the NCAA takes a look at this.
If Ohio State gains a bunch of yards and is in field range, they decline and no harm to Oregon because of the 12th man
If Ohio State doesn’t get into field goal range, they almost have to accept and replay 3rd down, now with only 6 seconds remaining
The question is how will the NCAA try to change the rules to prevent this from happening in the future? Will the other team (OSU in this case) be able to opt to put time back on the clock (the opposite of running time off the clock, but unprecedented)?
Years ago, when they changed the rules to start the clock when the kicker kicks (instead of the receiver catching), Brett Bielema at Wisconsin had his team run offsides several times on the kickoff to burn 20ish seconds rather than kick to Penn St at the end of the first half. https://www.espn.com/college-football/news/story?id=2652043
They quickly changed back to the old and current approach to starting the clock on kickoffs. So I wouldn’t be surprised if the NCAA takes a look at this.
I'm not entirely sure I believe that was intentional and they he wasnt just making up a very good excuse for a mistake, but if it really was admitting it was stupid. I dont think the NCAA will necessarily do anything unless it starts to become a problem but its an easy fix. All you have to do is something like too many men on the field in the last 2 minutes of a half is a free play and the clock doesnt run during the free play and it would stop immediately
In potentially big news the SEC and B!G met over the weekend to discuss future scheduling. This will probably take a couple years if it happens, they will want the playoff situation done first since that runs out next year, and will probably want more money from TV as well.
What they started discussing was each conference would rank their own teams 1-16 and than the two conference would play each other to start the season. 1 would play 1, 2 v 2, 3v3, 16 v 16 etc. Wed be getting some playoff caliber games right away and possibly even an immediate national championship rematch right away. Theres a long way to go and a lot to happen for it happen but its a very exciting proposal thats gaining momentum
If Ohio State gains a bunch of yards and is in field range, they decline and no harm to Oregon because of the 12th man
If Ohio State doesn’t get into field goal range, they almost have to accept and replay 3rd down, now with only 6 seconds remaining
The question is how will the NCAA try to change the rules to prevent this from happening in the future? Will the other team (OSU in this case) be able to opt to put time back on the clock (the opposite of running time off the clock, but unprecedented)?
Years ago, when they changed the rules to start the clock when the kicker kicks (instead of the receiver catching), Brett Bielema at Wisconsin had his team run offsides several times on the kickoff to burn 20ish seconds rather than kick to Penn St at the end of the first half. https://www.espn.com/college-football/news/story?id=2652043
They quickly changed back to the old and current approach to starting the clock on kickoffs. So I wouldn’t be surprised if the NCAA takes a look at this.
It's kind of disturbing what lengths some of these coaches are doing(cheating) to win games. Like this idiot coach at Ole Miss..
One of the many reasons why I don't care for Kirby Smart. Shoving an opposing player should be immediate grounds for at least a one if not two game suspension. As I hit a few googles, the really sad part is that Smart claims "No, I really don't remember it". Even after watching video he claims amnesia...what a pathetic soul. Having watched too many GA games, he always acts like he's pumped up on something, maybe he should consider a valium to calm his nerves. It is disgusting that the SEC or powers to be at GA didn't discipline him in some fashion.
All the more reason why I hope Texas cleans his clock this Saturday.
If Ohio State gains a bunch of yards and is in field range, they decline and no harm to Oregon because of the 12th man
If Ohio State doesn’t get into field goal range, they almost have to accept and replay 3rd down, now with only 6 seconds remaining
The question is how will the NCAA try to change the rules to prevent this from happening in the future? Will the other team (OSU in this case) be able to opt to put time back on the clock (the opposite of running time off the clock, but unprecedented)?
Years ago, when they changed the rules to start the clock when the kicker kicks (instead of the receiver catching), Brett Bielema at Wisconsin had his team run offsides several times on the kickoff to burn 20ish seconds rather than kick to Penn St at the end of the first half. https://www.espn.com/college-football/news/story?id=2652043
They quickly changed back to the old and current approach to starting the clock on kickoffs. So I wouldn’t be surprised if the NCAA takes a look at this.
But he can just have a guy line up offsides and get the same result. Or really any intentional penalty that wouldn’t gain enough yardage to result in a scoring opportunity. Even a 5 yd holding penalty on a DB. Too many rules to close all the gaps.
Rules should never be changed mid season. Half the seasons been played with one set of rules and the other half will now be played with another. MLB has done this before too and it just threatens the integrity of the season by doing so
Oregon should be #1. They have two better wins than Texas (#4 Ohio State, #15 Boise State) Only ranked team texas has beaten is Michigan.
Amazing that there is still whining from Stan about SEC bias when the B10 has 3 of the top 4 spots in the polls and OSU only dropped two places after gifting away a game to the Ducks. He has complained incessantly over the years about how when two top ranked SEC teams play the loser doesn't drop far enough in the polls due to "SEC bias". Then claimed the same would never occur for B10 teams.
Yet not a word when we see the exact same thing occur when two top ranked B10 teams play. This would be the time where Stan would have been criticizing the losing SEC team for playing a creampuff out of conference schedule and beating no one but still maintaining their high ranking. Literally exactly what has happened with Ohio State.
Now, do I think Ohio State is a top 5 team in the country, sure. They played on the road against one of the best teams in the country and gave the game away. But their schedule has been a complete joke so far this season outside of Oregon.
The more interesting question for Ohio State is, if they lose 3 games (one to Penn State, Indiana, or Michigan and one in the B10 title game) would they deserve to be in the playoffs? Seems far fetched given their talent but backloading your schedule can lead to some quirky results when you play good teams in rapid succession.
@fergie23 said: Oregon should be #1. They have two better wins than Texas (#4 Ohio State, #15 Boise State) Only ranked team texas has beaten is Michigan.
Amazing that there is still whining from Stan about SEC bias when the B10 has 3 of the top 4 spots in the polls and OSU only dropped two places after gifting away a game to the Ducks. He has complained incessantly over the years about how when two top ranked SEC teams play the loser doesn't drop far enough in the polls due to "SEC bias". Then claimed the same would never occur for B10 teams.
Yet not a word when we see the exact same thing occur when two top ranked B10 teams play. This would be the time where Stan would have been criticizing the losing SEC team for playing a creampuff out of conference schedule and beating no one but still maintaining their high ranking. Literally exactly what has happened with Ohio State.
Now, do I think Ohio State is a top 5 team in the country, sure. They played on the road against one of the best teams in the country and gave the game away. But their schedule has been a complete joke so far this season outside of Oregon.
The more interesting question for Ohio State is, if they lose 3 games (one to Penn State, Indiana, or Michigan and one in the B10 title game) would they deserve to be in the playoffs? Seems far fetched given their talent but backloading your schedule can lead to some quirky results when you play good teams in rapid succession.
Robb
This coming from the BIG TEN hater who said before 2023. BIG TEN teams dont deserve to make the playoffs LOL.
Go away troll. Its not even debatable that the only reason why Oregon won is because they played the 12 man loophole which is now BANNED by the NCAA. Get a clue.
Im not the only one by far who mentioned that it is a travesty that Oregon is not #1. WHO HAS TEXAS BEAT???? I'll wait.
And to your your last ridiculous point, although Iowa is not ranked, I believe they can beat more than half of the sec teams. So yes the BUCKEYES were tested before they played Oregon. Iowa beat the same team that beat Michigan by 24 points and lost to an undefeated Iowa State team by one point.
@Bullsitter said:
ESPN showing BIG10 bias again.....ESPN kisses up to the BIG10, always have...
That's why there are 4 QBs from the BIG10 and 0 from the SEC.
I will say that Howard is the best slider of the bunch.....
The most talented for that conference is Rioala, Aller would be second. I have absolutely no idea what that ranking list is supposed to be based off of. Theres a 0 percent chance that the Navy QB is the best in the country and that Army is in the top 4 as well.
Whether hes cherry picking stats or someone actually made that list, that is the worst top 10 college QB list I have ever seen in my life
@coolstanley said:
Go away troll. Its not even debatable that the only reason why Oregon won is because they played the 12 man loophole which is now BANNED by the NCAA. Get a clue.
Even for a hugely bias B!G conference superfan this is an insane statement to make. That play took 6 seconds. Will Howard ran out the last 6 seconds of the game to slide while in FG range.
What happened the other 59 minutes and 48 seconds of the game?
The only thing that isnt debatable is that OSU didnt lose because Oregon played a 12 man defense for one play
@fergie23 said: Oregon should be #1. They have two better wins than Texas (#4 Ohio State, #15 Boise State) Only ranked team texas has beaten is Michigan.
Amazing that there is still whining from Stan about SEC bias when the B10 has 3 of the top 4 spots in the polls and OSU only dropped two places after gifting away a game to the Ducks. He has complained incessantly over the years about how when two top ranked SEC teams play the loser doesn't drop far enough in the polls due to "SEC bias". Then claimed the same would never occur for B10 teams.
Yet not a word when we see the exact same thing occur when two top ranked B10 teams play. This would be the time where Stan would have been criticizing the losing SEC team for playing a creampuff out of conference schedule and beating no one but still maintaining their high ranking. Literally exactly what has happened with Ohio State.
Now, do I think Ohio State is a top 5 team in the country, sure. They played on the road against one of the best teams in the country and gave the game away. But their schedule has been a complete joke so far this season outside of Oregon.
The more interesting question for Ohio State is, if they lose 3 games (one to Penn State, Indiana, or Michigan and one in the B10 title game) would they deserve to be in the playoffs? Seems far fetched given their talent but backloading your schedule can lead to some quirky results when you play good teams in rapid succession.
Robb
This coming from the BIG TEN hater who said before 2023. BIG TEN teams dont deserve to make the playoffs LOL.
Go away troll. Its not even debatable that the only reason why Oregon won is because they played the 12 man loophole which is now BANNED by the NCAA. Get a clue.
Im not the only one by far who mentioned that it is a travesty that Oregon is not #1. WHO HAS TEXAS BEAT???? I'll wait.
And to your your last ridiculous point, although Iowa is not ranked, I believe they can beat more than half of the sec teams. So yes the BUCKEYES were tested before they played Oregon. Iowa beat the same team that beat Michigan by 24 points and lost to an undefeated Iowa State team by one point.
I’m a Big 10 homer.
I think it’s very debatable. Without the penalty, Ohio State’s on the 43 facing 4th down with 6 seconds left. You think a 60 yd FG is guaranteed? Or that Ohio St runs a play to gain 5+ yards, calls TO, and the 55ish yarder is a gimme? Even without that happening, the odds were heavily in Oregon’s favor so it’s absolutely debatable that Oregon only won because of the penalty.
Unless your premise is that the 12th man caused the incompletion on 3rd down and they’d have absolutely gained yards on the initial 3rd down play… I’ll admit to not looking closely enough to see if he had any role in the play, but that’s still a stretch and also debatable.
USC (South Carolina was founded long before Southern Cal) is a good team with a very good defensive line. Venables has really messed up that Oklahoma team. He benched his 5 star a few games ago for a 3 star bad back up QB. Only took 3 turnovers in one quarter against a good defense for him to put the 5 star back in whose now disgruntled. Just fire him already so he can go back to being a DC or coach a lower level team where he belongs
Not that far but Bama boosters are going to start trying to get the coach fired soon though. Also can stop pretending Milroe is an elite QB other than physical attributes
Apparently if you throw things on the field officials will reverse calls that arent reviewable minutes later now. The PI call was bad changing a call because things are being thrown on the field is the worst officiating I have ever seen. I didnt really care who won that game but that crew needs to be removed from any big games after that debacle in the Texas GA game
So, NIL and all the gambling all kinds of ok'd and such.....we got a good dose of some of FIFA/NFL/NBA/etc action that is coming with all those calls in UT/UGA, smh.
@BLUEJAYWAY said:
Looking forward to the rankings.
Oregon makes sense at number 1, but as a PSU guy there’s no way we’re the second best team - we may be ranked #2 because that’s the way the polls work, but we’re more like 8-10. I’d probably go:
Oregon
Georgia
Ohio St
Texas
PSU
Then when we inevitably lose to OSU, we’ll slot nicely into the 8-10 range. Not our fault every team we’ve played keep losing (looking at you USC and WVU)
Dear Texas, we know this is your first year in the SEC but we don't act like spoiled brats and throw temper tantrums when we get our butts kicked. Nothing shows class like throwing things on the field. They had to stop the game to clean up the mess.....
A game of big plays and defensive stops by the Illini. I was stunned with the fake punt play in the third quarter- wonder what Zuppke would have done. Great to see a win on such a historic occasion- the 100th anniversary of the dedication of Memorial Stadium. The Illinois AD really planned to make the date work. The uniforms looked great.
This game made the season a success… Seems we know what will be the most probable outcome at Oregon Saturday-looks as if the game will be on CBS.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
Just a random thought/question… Do you think some schools like USC, UCLA, Washington and even Oregon regret joining the Big 10? And the same question goes to the Conference expansions elsewhere? Seems traveling might be a greater challenge than what was initially anticipated.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
A game of big plays and defensive stops by the Illini. I was stunned with the fake punt play in the third quarter- wonder what Zuppke would have done. Great to see a win on such a historic occasion- the 100th anniversary of the dedication of Memorial Stadium. The Illinois AD really planned to make the date work. The uniforms looked great.
This game made the season a success… Seems we know what will be the most probable outcome at Oregon Saturday-looks as if the game will be on CBS.
Those Illini helmets were the coolest helmets I’ve ever seen.
@coinkat said:
Just a random thought/question… Do you think some schools like USC, UCLA, Washington and even Oregon regret joining the Big 10? And the same question goes to the Conference expansions elsewhere? Seems traveling might be a greater challenge than what was initially anticipated.
I think they’ll make adjustments and adapt to the B1G style eventually. USC and Oregon will be at or towards the top - they have too many resources to be bottom feeders - but UCLA and Washington may be middle or lower.
I just don’t understand how it makes sense for ANY B1G teams for the other sports - how can baseball, softball, field hockey, swimming, etc afford to fly across country multiple times (at least 6 teams are Eastern and 4 teams are Pacific)? Both from a $s and impact to athletes (time zone changes, more missed classes, etc.). That’s where they might have some regrets. It’ll probably speed up football moving into a separate entity from the other sports, but it’s gonna be tough on the non-football athletes and budgets until that happens.
@Bullsitter said:
Dear Texas, we know this is your first year in the SEC but we don't act like spoiled brats and throw temper tantrums when we get our butts kicked. Nothing shows class like throwing things on the field. They had to stop the game to clean up the mess.....
HORNS DOWN
Thats going to start happening a lot more with that hack of an officiating crew picking up their flag on a play that cant be reviewed after 5 minutes of the field being cleaned up. Theres definitely panic going on and people getting screamed at behind the scenes today with how they found a way to make a bad call even worse
@coinkat said:
Just a random thought/question… Do you think some schools like USC, UCLA, Washington and even Oregon regret joining the Big 10? And the same question goes to the Conference expansions elsewhere? Seems traveling might be a greater challenge than what was initially anticipated.
None of them regret it. It was about money. USC and UCLA wanted out, Oregon and Washington literally begged the B!G to take them and wont have a full media share until the next TV deal. Even with Oregon and Washington splitting a TV share theyre still making significantly more than they would have if they stayed. Its not great for the players but its great for the schools bank accounts.
Other than Oregon all the PAC 12 teams have struggled in their new conferences. Ever since Carrol left Southern Cal the PAc 12 has been a pretty soft conference that was great for QBs and WRs and now that they arent just playing each other every game its really adding fuel to the fire.
Southern Cal probably is probably regretting hiring Riley. They gave him an absurd contract that he never actually deserved and its been a disaster since he got there even before the Pac 12 falling apart. His buyout is like 80 million, but the numbers arent public. Texas A&M boosters got the money together and gave Jimbo Fisher over 75 million to fire him. Southern Cal either needs to do the same or just like losing for years to come
Thats what happens when the best teams in the country have to play each other.
Trying to argue for Wisconsin or Nebraska would be a joke, Wisconsin was dominated by Bama and also lost badly to Southern Cal. Nebraska just got destroyed by Indiana and struggled against a bad Rutgers team the week before. Texas Tech/Colorado/ASU/Cincinnati have no claim. After that its 3 loss teams
If I was an OSU fan Id be much more worried about the fact that my team is currently in 6th place, loses the tie breaker again one of the teams ahead of them and only has 2 teams ahead of them left on the schedule.
@Basebal21 said:
Thats what happens when the best teams in the country have to play each other.
Trying to argue for Wisconsin or Nebraska would be a joke, Wisconsin was dominated by Bama and also lost badly to Southern Cal. Nebraska just got destroyed by Indiana and struggled against a bad Rutgers team the week before. Texas Tech/Colorado/ASU/Cincinnati have no claim. After that its 3 loss teams
If I was an OSU fan Id be much more worried about the fact that my team is currently in 6th place, loses the tie breaker again one of the teams ahead of them and only has 2 teams ahead of them left on the schedule.
Since your an sec guy, of course you're going to be ok with sec bias.
I'm sorry, but you're not going to convince me that Vanderbilt is one of the three best 2 loss teams.
No I'm not worried. Buckeyes win out they will be in the BTCG. Wisconsin and Illinois arn't winning the rest of their games.
@Basebal21 said:
Thats what happens when the best teams in the country have to play each other.
Trying to argue for Wisconsin or Nebraska would be a joke, Wisconsin was dominated by Bama and also lost badly to Southern Cal. Nebraska just got destroyed by Indiana and struggled against a bad Rutgers team the week before. Texas Tech/Colorado/ASU/Cincinnati have no claim. After that its 3 loss teams
If I was an OSU fan Id be much more worried about the fact that my team is currently in 6th place, loses the tie breaker again one of the teams ahead of them and only has 2 teams ahead of them left on the schedule.
Since your an sec guy, of course you're going to be ok with sec bias.
I'm sorry, but you're not going to convince me that Vanderbilt is one of the three best 2 loss teams.
No I'm not worried. Buckeyes win out they will be in the BTCG. Wisconsin and Illinois arn't winning the rest of their games.
No such thing as an SEC guy, those teams celebrate the losses of everyone else in the conference People that root for other team in the conference arent real fans or are just rooting for really bad teams
Wisconsin and Illinois dont have to win out to keep OSU out of the B!G championship. Theres 5 teams that could keep them out. This isnt week one.
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Tough loss to the Ducks.
Still think OSU will take all the marbles
Lanning admitted that he intentionally had 12 defensive players on the field on 3rd down with 10 seconds to play to waste time at the end against Ohio State - pretty ingenious. https://www.espn.com/college-football/news/story?id=2652043
If Ohio State gains a bunch of yards and is in field range, they decline and no harm to Oregon because of the 12th man
If Ohio State doesn’t get into field goal range, they almost have to accept and replay 3rd down, now with only 6 seconds remaining
The question is how will the NCAA try to change the rules to prevent this from happening in the future? Will the other team (OSU in this case) be able to opt to put time back on the clock (the opposite of running time off the clock, but unprecedented)?
Years ago, when they changed the rules to start the clock when the kicker kicks (instead of the receiver catching), Brett Bielema at Wisconsin had his team run offsides several times on the kickoff to burn 20ish seconds rather than kick to Penn St at the end of the first half. https://www.espn.com/college-football/news/story?id=2652043
They quickly changed back to the old and current approach to starting the clock on kickoffs. So I wouldn’t be surprised if the NCAA takes a look at this.
Jim
Don't you hate when your team loses, and they don't play for two weeks.
I'm not entirely sure I believe that was intentional and they he wasnt just making up a very good excuse for a mistake, but if it really was admitting it was stupid. I dont think the NCAA will necessarily do anything unless it starts to become a problem but its an easy fix. All you have to do is something like too many men on the field in the last 2 minutes of a half is a free play and the clock doesnt run during the free play and it would stop immediately
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In potentially big news the SEC and B!G met over the weekend to discuss future scheduling. This will probably take a couple years if it happens, they will want the playoff situation done first since that runs out next year, and will probably want more money from TV as well.
What they started discussing was each conference would rank their own teams 1-16 and than the two conference would play each other to start the season. 1 would play 1, 2 v 2, 3v3, 16 v 16 etc. Wed be getting some playoff caliber games right away and possibly even an immediate national championship rematch right away. Theres a long way to go and a lot to happen for it happen but its a very exciting proposal thats gaining momentum
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This is an odd year where there are two bye weeks.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
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It's kind of disturbing what lengths some of these coaches are doing(cheating) to win games. Like this idiot coach at Ole Miss..
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/ole-miss-responds-allegations-players-faking-injuries-ahead-big-game-against-lsu
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One of the many reasons why I don't care for Kirby Smart. Shoving an opposing player should be immediate grounds for at least a one if not two game suspension. As I hit a few googles, the really sad part is that Smart claims "No, I really don't remember it". Even after watching video he claims amnesia...what a pathetic soul. Having watched too many GA games, he always acts like he's pumped up on something, maybe he should consider a valium to calm his nerves. It is disgusting that the SEC or powers to be at GA didn't discipline him in some fashion.
All the more reason why I hope Texas cleans his clock this Saturday.
And there it is - time can be put back on the clock: https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/41832824/ncaa-issues-interpretation-restore-12-man-penalty
But he can just have a guy line up offsides and get the same result. Or really any intentional penalty that wouldn’t gain enough yardage to result in a scoring opportunity. Even a 5 yd holding penalty on a DB. Too many rules to close all the gaps.
Jim
Rules should never be changed mid season. Half the seasons been played with one set of rules and the other half will now be played with another. MLB has done this before too and it just threatens the integrity of the season by doing so
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NCAA mulling in-season action after Oregon's controversial late-game situational move helped Ducks beat Ohio State.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/ncaa-mulling-in-season-action-after-oregons-controversial-late-game-situational-move-helped-ducks-beat-ohio-state-154542363.html
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Oregon should be #1. They have two better wins than Texas (#4 Ohio State, #15 Boise State) Only ranked team texas has beaten is Michigan.
Amazing that there is still whining from Stan about SEC bias when the B10 has 3 of the top 4 spots in the polls and OSU only dropped two places after gifting away a game to the Ducks. He has complained incessantly over the years about how when two top ranked SEC teams play the loser doesn't drop far enough in the polls due to "SEC bias". Then claimed the same would never occur for B10 teams.
Yet not a word when we see the exact same thing occur when two top ranked B10 teams play. This would be the time where Stan would have been criticizing the losing SEC team for playing a creampuff out of conference schedule and beating no one but still maintaining their high ranking. Literally exactly what has happened with Ohio State.
Now, do I think Ohio State is a top 5 team in the country, sure. They played on the road against one of the best teams in the country and gave the game away. But their schedule has been a complete joke so far this season outside of Oregon.
The more interesting question for Ohio State is, if they lose 3 games (one to Penn State, Indiana, or Michigan and one in the B10 title game) would they deserve to be in the playoffs? Seems far fetched given their talent but backloading your schedule can lead to some quirky results when you play good teams in rapid succession.
Robb
This coming from the BIG TEN hater who said before 2023. BIG TEN teams dont deserve to make the playoffs LOL.
Go away troll. Its not even debatable that the only reason why Oregon won is because they played the 12 man loophole which is now BANNED by the NCAA. Get a clue.
Im not the only one by far who mentioned that it is a travesty that Oregon is not #1. WHO HAS TEXAS BEAT???? I'll wait.
And to your your last ridiculous point, although Iowa is not ranked, I believe they can beat more than half of the sec teams. So yes the BUCKEYES were tested before they played Oregon. Iowa beat the same team that beat Michigan by 24 points and lost to an undefeated Iowa State team by one point.
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ESPN top rated quarterbacks
1
Blake Horvath
NAVY
2
Cam Ward
MIA
3
Kurtis Rourke
IU
4
Bryson Daily
ARMY
5
Cade Klubnik
CLEM
6
Will Howard
OSU
7
Drew Allar
PSU
8
Jordan McCloud
TXST
9
Sawyer Robertson
BAY
10
Dillon Gabriel
ORE
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ESPN showing BIG10 bias again.....ESPN kisses up to the BIG10, always have...
That's why there are 4 QBs from the BIG10 and 0 from the SEC.
I will say that Howard is the best slider of the bunch.....
🏈📺🥤👍
The most talented for that conference is Rioala, Aller would be second. I have absolutely no idea what that ranking list is supposed to be based off of. Theres a 0 percent chance that the Navy QB is the best in the country and that Army is in the top 4 as well.
Whether hes cherry picking stats or someone actually made that list, that is the worst top 10 college QB list I have ever seen in my life
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Even for a hugely bias B!G conference superfan this is an insane statement to make. That play took 6 seconds. Will Howard ran out the last 6 seconds of the game to slide while in FG range.
What happened the other 59 minutes and 48 seconds of the game?
The only thing that isnt debatable is that OSU didnt lose because Oregon played a 12 man defense for one play
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I’m a Big 10 homer.
I think it’s very debatable. Without the penalty, Ohio State’s on the 43 facing 4th down with 6 seconds left. You think a 60 yd FG is guaranteed? Or that Ohio St runs a play to gain 5+ yards, calls TO, and the 55ish yarder is a gimme? Even without that happening, the odds were heavily in Oregon’s favor so it’s absolutely debatable that Oregon only won because of the penalty.
Unless your premise is that the 12th man caused the incompletion on 3rd down and they’d have absolutely gained yards on the initial 3rd down play… I’ll admit to not looking closely enough to see if he had any role in the play, but that’s still a stretch and also debatable.
Jim
Not to mention the phantom call on Smith. Take away that penalty and the 12 man BS, and they wouldve been in FG territory.
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They were with in FG range. It wouldnt have been a gimme but he has the leg. Again though there was more than another 59 minutes of the game
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Coulda, shoulda, woulda, - but in real time right now, Oregon having no problem with Purdue......
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
Oklahoma State blowing the game at the end officially seals them as the most disappointing team this year
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How about Oklahoma getting stomped by SC, Wow
USC (South Carolina was founded long before Southern Cal) is a good team with a very good defensive line. Venables has really messed up that Oklahoma team. He benched his 5 star a few games ago for a 3 star bad back up QB. Only took 3 turnovers in one quarter against a good defense for him to put the 5 star back in whose now disgruntled. Just fire him already so he can go back to being a DC or coach a lower level team where he belongs
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I picked South Carolina to win that game. Oklahoma has not looked good.
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Take that Alabama!!!
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
Michigan loses their 3rd game. How much does Alabama drop?
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Not that far but Bama boosters are going to start trying to get the coach fired soon though. Also can stop pretending Milroe is an elite QB other than physical attributes
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Looking like Oregon is gonna be #1 very soon............
Texas laying a huge egg.........
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Apparently if you throw things on the field officials will reverse calls that arent reviewable minutes later now. The PI call was bad changing a call because things are being thrown on the field is the worst officiating I have ever seen. I didnt really care who won that game but that crew needs to be removed from any big games after that debacle in the Texas GA game
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So, NIL and all the gambling all kinds of ok'd and such.....we got a good dose of some of FIFA/NFL/NBA/etc action that is coming with all those calls in UT/UGA, smh.
Looking forward to the rankings.
USC loses another game after leading in the 4th quarter.
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USC always does USC things. Big question is how long will they put up with Riley. Their seasons already over.
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Oregon makes sense at number 1, but as a PSU guy there’s no way we’re the second best team - we may be ranked #2 because that’s the way the polls work, but we’re more like 8-10. I’d probably go:
Oregon
Georgia
Ohio St
Texas
PSU
Then when we inevitably lose to OSU, we’ll slot nicely into the 8-10 range. Not our fault every team we’ve played keep losing (looking at you USC and WVU)
Jim
My team stinks, Milroe can't see and the refs suck.....period !!!
Mighty proud of Georgia for whipping Texas, that was a beat down.
But as a Bama fan I can say we beat the team that beat Texass......HORNS DOWN......
Dear Texas, we know this is your first year in the SEC but we don't act like spoiled brats and throw temper tantrums when we get our butts kicked. Nothing shows class like throwing things on the field. They had to stop the game to clean up the mess.....
HORNS DOWN
ILL
INI
A game of big plays and defensive stops by the Illini. I was stunned with the fake punt play in the third quarter- wonder what Zuppke would have done. Great to see a win on such a historic occasion- the 100th anniversary of the dedication of Memorial Stadium. The Illinois AD really planned to make the date work. The uniforms looked great.
This game made the season a success… Seems we know what will be the most probable outcome at Oregon Saturday-looks as if the game will be on CBS.
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Just a random thought/question… Do you think some schools like USC, UCLA, Washington and even Oregon regret joining the Big 10? And the same question goes to the Conference expansions elsewhere? Seems traveling might be a greater challenge than what was initially anticipated.
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Those Illini helmets were the coolest helmets I’ve ever seen.
Jim
I think they’ll make adjustments and adapt to the B1G style eventually. USC and Oregon will be at or towards the top - they have too many resources to be bottom feeders - but UCLA and Washington may be middle or lower.
I just don’t understand how it makes sense for ANY B1G teams for the other sports - how can baseball, softball, field hockey, swimming, etc afford to fly across country multiple times (at least 6 teams are Eastern and 4 teams are Pacific)? Both from a $s and impact to athletes (time zone changes, more missed classes, etc.). That’s where they might have some regrets. It’ll probably speed up football moving into a separate entity from the other sports, but it’s gonna be tough on the non-football athletes and budgets until that happens.
Jim
https://sportsdata.usatoday.com/football/ncaaf/coaches-poll
Thats going to start happening a lot more with that hack of an officiating crew picking up their flag on a play that cant be reviewed after 5 minutes of the field being cleaned up. Theres definitely panic going on and people getting screamed at behind the scenes today with how they found a way to make a bad call even worse
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None of them regret it. It was about money. USC and UCLA wanted out, Oregon and Washington literally begged the B!G to take them and wont have a full media share until the next TV deal. Even with Oregon and Washington splitting a TV share theyre still making significantly more than they would have if they stayed. Its not great for the players but its great for the schools bank accounts.
Other than Oregon all the PAC 12 teams have struggled in their new conferences. Ever since Carrol left Southern Cal the PAc 12 has been a pretty soft conference that was great for QBs and WRs and now that they arent just playing each other every game its really adding fuel to the fire.
Southern Cal probably is probably regretting hiring Riley. They gave him an absurd contract that he never actually deserved and its been a disaster since he got there even before the Pac 12 falling apart. His buyout is like 80 million, but the numbers arent public. Texas A&M boosters got the money together and gave Jimbo Fisher over 75 million to fire him. Southern Cal either needs to do the same or just like losing for years to come
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Funny how all three (2)-loss teams in the polls are in the SEC. They should just change the name and call it the ''SEC POLL RANKINGS.''
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Thats what happens when the best teams in the country have to play each other.
Trying to argue for Wisconsin or Nebraska would be a joke, Wisconsin was dominated by Bama and also lost badly to Southern Cal. Nebraska just got destroyed by Indiana and struggled against a bad Rutgers team the week before. Texas Tech/Colorado/ASU/Cincinnati have no claim. After that its 3 loss teams
If I was an OSU fan Id be much more worried about the fact that my team is currently in 6th place, loses the tie breaker again one of the teams ahead of them and only has 2 teams ahead of them left on the schedule.
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Since your an sec guy, of course you're going to be ok with sec bias.
I'm sorry, but you're not going to convince me that Vanderbilt is one of the three best 2 loss teams.
No I'm not worried. Buckeyes win out they will be in the BTCG. Wisconsin and Illinois arn't winning the rest of their games.
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No such thing as an SEC guy, those teams celebrate the losses of everyone else in the conference People that root for other team in the conference arent real fans or are just rooting for really bad teams
Wisconsin and Illinois dont have to win out to keep OSU out of the B!G championship. Theres 5 teams that could keep them out. This isnt week one.
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