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  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 3,381 ✭✭✭✭

    @2dueces said:
    I’m sure I’m wrong but it looks like Dallas and San Francisco are very good finesse teams but physical overmatched at times. Baltimore overwhelmed the offense line and made Purdy good look Purdy bad. Just my take

    49ers did have several injuries on the offensive line. They struggle whenever Williams is out, but when your oline are dropping like flies its not going to go well for anyone especially against a really good team like Baltimore. The health would be my concern as the injuries could very easily lead to an early playoff exit.

    Missouri 14 OSU 3

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,045 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:

    @Maywood said:
    @BillJones said: I think the Ravens have crept up on pro football this season.

    Fans who haven't paid attention have missed some good football from the Ravens. Lamar Jackson is everything he's hyped to be but fans dismiss him for their own reasons. He was criticized because he ran too much. He was criticized as weak for not playing at the end of the season when injured. He was criticized as stupid for not having an agent and letting his Mother help him in negotiations. Add whatever else you might think of, but you get the idea.

    In the meantime he continues to play at a level above most other NFL QB's. My personal opinion is that Jackson and the Ravens have been hampered as much as anything else by his Head Coach. His play during his career has been pretty consistent and top tier, yet he is criticized.

    I have never been impressed with Lamar Jackson because of the injury thing. He's been down for the past two postseasons. The few times I have seen him, he's made some bad judgements on passes, and yea, quarterbacks who run too much are asking for trouble. There is a reason why running backs have the shortest careers in pro football. They get beat up game after game.

    I sorta follow Baltimore because they were almost as close to where I grew up as Philadelphia, and I have gone to many Baltimore coin shows. I followed the team in the days of Johnnie Unitus, Raymond Berry, lineman, Jim Parker. and announcer Chuck Thomson. The trouble is the Colts "carpetbagged it out town, as the late Howard Cosell used to say. I never warmed up the Ravens as much.

    Do you remember Art Donovan?

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  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:

    @BillJones said:

    @Maywood said:
    @BillJones said: I think the Ravens have crept up on pro football this season.

    Fans who haven't paid attention have missed some good football from the Ravens. Lamar Jackson is everything he's hyped to be but fans dismiss him for their own reasons. He was criticized because he ran too much. He was criticized as weak for not playing at the end of the season when injured. He was criticized as stupid for not having an agent and letting his Mother help him in negotiations. Add whatever else you might think of, but you get the idea.

    In the meantime he continues to play at a level above most other NFL QB's. My personal opinion is that Jackson and the Ravens have been hampered as much as anything else by his Head Coach. His play during his career has been pretty consistent and top tier, yet he is criticized.

    I have never been impressed with Lamar Jackson because of the injury thing. He's been down for the past two postseasons. The few times I have seen him, he's made some bad judgements on passes, and yea, quarterbacks who run too much are asking for trouble. There is a reason why running backs have the shortest careers in pro football. They get beat up game after game.

    I sorta follow Baltimore because they were almost as close to where I grew up as Philadelphia, and I have gone to many Baltimore coin shows. I followed the team in the days of Johnnie Unitus, Raymond Berry, lineman, Jim Parker. and announcer Chuck Thomson. The trouble is the Colts "carpetbagged it out town, as the late Howard Cosell used to say. I never warmed up the Ravens as much.

    Do you remember Art Donovan?

    I can almost recite the Colts of those days. Johnny U was one of my childhood favorites. But jack kemp was my ultimate favorite

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,963 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:

    @BillJones said:

    @Maywood said:
    @BillJones said: I think the Ravens have crept up on pro football this season.

    Fans who haven't paid attention have missed some good football from the Ravens. Lamar Jackson is everything he's hyped to be but fans dismiss him for their own reasons. He was criticized because he ran too much. He was criticized as weak for not playing at the end of the season when injured. He was criticized as stupid for not having an agent and letting his Mother help him in negotiations. Add whatever else you might think of, but you get the idea.

    In the meantime he continues to play at a level above most other NFL QB's. My personal opinion is that Jackson and the Ravens have been hampered as much as anything else by his Head Coach. His play during his career has been pretty consistent and top tier, yet he is criticized.

    I have never been impressed with Lamar Jackson because of the injury thing. He's been down for the past two postseasons. The few times I have seen him, he's made some bad judgements on passes, and yea, quarterbacks who run too much are asking for trouble. There is a reason why running backs have the shortest careers in pro football. They get beat up game after game.

    I sorta follow Baltimore because they were almost as close to where I grew up as Philadelphia, and I have gone to many Baltimore coin shows. I followed the team in the days of Johnnie Unitus, Raymond Berry, lineman, Jim Parker. and announcer Chuck Thomson. The trouble is the Colts "carpetbagged it out town, as the late Howard Cosell used to say. I never warmed up the Ravens as much.

    Do you remember Art Donovan?

    No, I don’t remember Art Donovan, but I do remember Randal Cunningham and Robert Griffin the Third. Cunningham was a great running quarterback with the Eagles, but after he broke his leg, he was never the same.

    Griffin wrecked his knee in a play-off game. He could barely stand, and yet the stupid coach had him out there trying to play. That coach got fired, and he richly deserved it. No playoff game is worth sacrificing the career of a potential franchise player. The coach should have been symbolically horse wiped and booed off the sidelines.

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  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭✭✭

    but I do remember Randal Cunningham and Robert Griffin the Third

    Looking at Lamar Jackson through the lens of Cunningham and RG3 isn't a good comparison at all. Sometimes it's best to put aside bias and acknowledge what a player like Jackson is doing.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,600 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Randall Cunningham is one of my all time favorite QB's

    Loved watching him play

  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,045 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    Randall Cunningham is one of my all time favorite QB's

    Loved watching him play

    Harold Carmichael was a player for the Eagles I remember well. Tall wide receiver.

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  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,045 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:

    @BillJones said:

    @Maywood said:
    @BillJones said: I think the Ravens have crept up on pro football this season.

    Fans who haven't paid attention have missed some good football from the Ravens. Lamar Jackson is everything he's hyped to be but fans dismiss him for their own reasons. He was criticized because he ran too much. He was criticized as weak for not playing at the end of the season when injured. He was criticized as stupid for not having an agent and letting his Mother help him in negotiations. Add whatever else you might think of, but you get the idea.

    In the meantime he continues to play at a level above most other NFL QB's. My personal opinion is that Jackson and the Ravens have been hampered as much as anything else by his Head Coach. His play during his career has been pretty consistent and top tier, yet he is criticized.

    I have never been impressed with Lamar Jackson because of the injury thing. He's been down for the past two postseasons. The few times I have seen him, he's made some bad judgements on passes, and yea, quarterbacks who run too much are asking for trouble. There is a reason why running backs have the shortest careers in pro football. They get beat up game after game.

    I sorta follow Baltimore because they were almost as close to where I grew up as Philadelphia, and I have gone to many Baltimore coin shows. I followed the team in the days of Johnnie Unitus, Raymond Berry, lineman, Jim Parker. and announcer Chuck Thomson. The trouble is the Colts "carpetbagged it out town, as the late Howard Cosell used to say. I never warmed up the Ravens as much.

    Do you remember Art Donovan?

    No, I don’t remember Art Donovan, but I do remember Randal Cunningham and Robert Griffin the Third. Cunningham was a great running quarterback with the Eagles, but after he broke his leg, he was never the same.

    Griffin wrecked his knee in a play-off game. He could barely stand, and yet the stupid coach had him out there trying to play. That coach got fired, and he richly deserved it. No playoff game is worth sacrificing the career of a potential franchise player. The coach should have been symbolically horse wiped and booed off the sidelines.

    Art Donovan was an old school Colt. Played defense. Reason I remember him is from his appearances on the old David Letterman show. He regaled Dave with humorous story's of early Colt football. He was quite funny with his reminiscing If you can find some old clips of his appearances on the show, they are worth a watch.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,963 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Maywood said:
    but I do remember Randal Cunningham and Robert Griffin the Third

    Looking at Lamar Jackson through the lens of Cunningham and RG3 isn't a good comparison at all. Sometimes it's best to put aside bias and acknowledge what a player like Jackson is doing.

    All it takes is one big hit, or an accumulation of them. That's why the smart guys take a slide and give up a few years. The few yards are not worth a season or career ending injury.

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,600 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:

    @BillJones said:

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:

    @BillJones said:

    @Maywood said:
    @BillJones said: I think the Ravens have crept up on pro football this season.

    Fans who haven't paid attention have missed some good football from the Ravens. Lamar Jackson is everything he's hyped to be but fans dismiss him for their own reasons. He was criticized because he ran too much. He was criticized as weak for not playing at the end of the season when injured. He was criticized as stupid for not having an agent and letting his Mother help him in negotiations. Add whatever else you might think of, but you get the idea.

    In the meantime he continues to play at a level above most other NFL QB's. My personal opinion is that Jackson and the Ravens have been hampered as much as anything else by his Head Coach. His play during his career has been pretty consistent and top tier, yet he is criticized.

    I have never been impressed with Lamar Jackson because of the injury thing. He's been down for the past two postseasons. The few times I have seen him, he's made some bad judgements on passes, and yea, quarterbacks who run too much are asking for trouble. There is a reason why running backs have the shortest careers in pro football. They get beat up game after game.

    I sorta follow Baltimore because they were almost as close to where I grew up as Philadelphia, and I have gone to many Baltimore coin shows. I followed the team in the days of Johnnie Unitus, Raymond Berry, lineman, Jim Parker. and announcer Chuck Thomson. The trouble is the Colts "carpetbagged it out town, as the late Howard Cosell used to say. I never warmed up the Ravens as much.

    Do you remember Art Donovan?

    No, I don’t remember Art Donovan, but I do remember Randal Cunningham and Robert Griffin the Third. Cunningham was a great running quarterback with the Eagles, but after he broke his leg, he was never the same.

    Griffin wrecked his knee in a play-off game. He could barely stand, and yet the stupid coach had him out there trying to play. That coach got fired, and he richly deserved it. No playoff game is worth sacrificing the career of a potential franchise player. The coach should have been symbolically horse wiped and booed off the sidelines.

    Art Donovan was an old school Colt. Played defense. Reason I remember him is from his appearances on the old David Letterman show. He regaled Dave with humorous story's of early Colt football. He was quite funny with his reminiscing If you can find some old clips of his appearances on the show, they are worth a watch.

    He was definitely a character, I've seen the clips

  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Russell Wilson’s time in Denver is over. Bench for injury concerns for the rest of the season.
    Makes the trade Seattle made for Adams pale in comparison.

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 27, 2023 2:53PM

    All it takes is one big hit, or an accumulation of them. That's why the smart guys take a slide and give up a few years. The few yards are not worth a season or career ending injury.

    I understand that thinking , I just don't understand why Lamar Jackson tends to be the only QB who really gets criticized for running. In today's NFL if you can't do that you probably won't succeed. All the "pocket passers" that we grew up with and that style of play are pretty much gone.

    Lamar Jackson has been viewed as a Running Back who plays QB ever since he came in the league. He is actually quite an accomplished passer who has worked the bulk of his career without much help. Right now Josh Allen is considered one of the top five QB's in the NFL. His first season is the same as Lamar Jackson, 2018. Take a look at their stats and be surprised how similar they are.

    One is seen as a premier runner, the other as a premier passer. Fans need to start looking at them differently.

    --- Your point about injuries is a good one, but what's happened in the NFL this season doesn't really support it. Guys are falling who aren't running like Jackson, they're dropping behind the line of scrimmage.

  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Maywood said:
    All it takes is one big hit, or an accumulation of them. That's why the smart guys take a slide and give up a few years. The few yards are not worth a season or career ending injury.

    I understand that thinking , I just don't understand why Lamar Jackson tends to be the only QB who really gets criticized for running. In today's NFL if you can't do that you probably won't succeed. All the "pocket passers" that we grew up with and that style of play are pretty much gone.

    Lamar Jackson has been viewed as a Running Back who plays QB ever since he came in the league. He is actually quite an accomplished passer who has worked the bulk of his career without much help. Right now Josh Allen is considered one of the top five QB's in the NFL. His first season is the same as Lamar Jackson, 2018. Take a look at their stats and be surprised how similar they are.

    One is seen as a premier runner, the other as a premier passer. Fans need to start looking at them differently.

    --- Your point about injuries is a good one, but what's happened in the NFL this season doesn't really support it. Guys are falling who aren't running like Jackson, they're dropping behind the line of scrimmage.

    58 quarterbacks started a game this season proves your point that not only running QB’s are susceptible to injuries

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’ve never been a Jackson supporter that’s been well documented but there’s something different this season. Maybe OC, maybe scheme it maybe maturity. I don’t think he’s an elite passer but has always been dynamic. Still I gotta see him get it done down late and carry the team to victory.
    My same thoughts about Purdy. Anyone can win ahead. I haven’t seen him carry the team.

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,600 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No matter what anyone says about Lamar Jackson on 3rd and less than 10 I'm absolutely concerned about him scrambling and running for a first more so than him throwing

  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Everyone knows I’m a Bills fan or you’ve been under a rock.
    This weekend sets up a number of scenarios. Every one starts with Baltimore beating Miami and the Bills squeaking out a victory against New England
    Buffalo beats Miami week 18 to not only win the AFC east but over take’s Kansas City for the #2 seed.
    This sets up the chance after 5 straight Bills games in Kansas City, they come to Buffalo for the conference semifinals.
    And if Baltimore stumbles the road to the Super Bowl goes through Buffalo

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,801 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 28, 2023 10:53AM

    i did not think Baltimore would go into San Fran and win. i thought the Niners' D would neutralize L Jax. not so much. Fred Warner wouldn't even blitz him; he just sat back there and spied. that strategy went over like a lead balloon.............a handful of times Jackson took off and Warner had to pick up his own jockstrap

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @galaxy27 said:
    i did not think Baltimore would go into San Fran and win. i thought the Niners' D would neutralize L Jax. not so much. Fred Warner wouldn't even blitz him; he just sat back there and spied. that strategy went over like a lead balloon.............a handful of times Jackson took off and Warner had to pick up his own jockstrap

    Tough sledding for a middle linebacker to be a spy for Jackson. I’d imagine on obvious passing downs a nickle or even a cornerback would be more obvious
    Remember his first playoff game the Chargers had 6 defensive backs on and frustrated him for 3 quarters

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • Basebal21Basebal21 Posts: 3,381 ✭✭✭✭

    @2dueces said:

    @galaxy27 said:
    i did not think Baltimore would go into San Fran and win. i thought the Niners' D would neutralize L Jax. not so much. Fred Warner wouldn't even blitz him; he just sat back there and spied. that strategy went over like a lead balloon.............a handful of times Jackson took off and Warner had to pick up his own jockstrap

    Tough sledding for a middle linebacker to be a spy for Jackson. I’d imagine on obvious passing downs a nickle or even a cornerback would be more obvious
    Remember his first playoff game the Chargers had 6 defensive backs on and frustrated him for 3 quarters

    The Chargers would have the most super bowls in history if games were only 3 quarters.

    Missouri 14 OSU 3

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,649 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow! What a first half for the Browns. Flacco 296 yds with 3 TDs. Up 33-17

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,216 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Steven59 said:
    Wow! What a first half for the Browns. Flacco 296 yds with 3 TDs. Up 33-17

    wow, the man can still play

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,649 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ok now - looks like the "real" Browns finally showed up for the game and played the second half.

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭✭✭

    We're in, baby!! B)

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,649 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Browns have locked up a playoff spot.
    See that? Getting DeShawn Watson is paying off :D

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 28, 2023 10:39PM

    @Maywood said:
    We're in, baby!! B)

    Congratulations !!

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,045 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Steven59 said:
    Browns have locked up a playoff spot.
    See that? Getting DeShawn Watson is paying off :D

    He did his part. Got hurt so Flacco could take over.

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  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,216 ✭✭✭✭✭

    congrats to the Browns

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Maywood said:
    We're in, baby!! B)

    I guarantee that the Browns won’t be intimidated by any team in the playoffs. They beat Baltimore in Baltimore with PJ Walker. I would rather play KC than them at this point.

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Game of the week. Predictions. I could throw a slew of useless stats at you about how Miami is 0 fer in games under 45 degrees, etc. how Miami is 1-4 (win against Dallas) (Does that really count?) against teams with winning records.
    Or how this could be a slight letdown for Baltimore after last week’s game although the #1 seed is at stake.
    So who you got and why?
    Miami at Baltimore

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Don't be too hard on Deshaun Watson, his record this season as a starter is 5-1 and I don't know how healthy he was for all those games. Cleveland certainly had the benefit of playing an easier schedule than many other teams but they manhandled Cincinnati, beat the 49ers after playing them to a stand-still and came back in the 4th quarter to beat the Ravens. They have a hill to climb for a few reasons, penalties and turnovers at the top of the list, but they should be fun to watch and will be a WildCard in the true sense of the word.

    Cleveland will most likely play the AFC South Champion. They played and beat all four of those teams this season but a 2nd road win will be hard.

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,801 ✭✭✭✭✭

    here it looked like a rare promising season for Cleveland was going to fall by the wayside. a slew of injuries. QBs dropping like flies. the Watson trade was looking like an unmitigated disaster. continued suffering for that fan base.

    then, out of nowhere, Joe freaking Flacco surfaces and starts making it happen at age 38.

    Brownie fans deserve this. what. a. story.

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • countdouglascountdouglas Posts: 2,430 ✭✭✭✭✭

    .

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The average age of an NFL player is 26 years and 5 months, it truly is a young man's game. I think QB and Kicker are about the only two positions that older men can realistically play. Even then, it brings into perspective how remarkable it was for Tom Brady to have been playing in his mid-40's!! Just unheard of.

    Joe Flacco will celebrate his 39th birthday on January 26th so he's still six years shy of the warhorse's incredible feat. Even though Flacco is more nimble than Brady the fact that these guys play NFL football with their much younger brothers freaks me out. If you watched the game last night you were probably as amazed as me watching that 50 yard TD with Flacco being chased to his left with 6'3"/303lb. Quinnen Williams closing in on him.

    That was a good play for a nimble and much younger QB but I think Flacco was running for his life!! :s

  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 29, 2023 9:17AM

    It’s great to see Joe Flacco come off his couch and lead the Browns to the playoffs. But let’s be realistic, he was on the couch for a reason. He can’t do this for 17 weeks.
    It’s a great story, I’m happy for Browns fan but Watson was 5-1 before he got hurt.
    Flacco’s wins Jags, Bears, Texans, Jets.
    Jags in a serious free fall and Texans without Stroud, so not exactly world beaters.
    Still I don’t think anyone would want to face this team at the moment with this momentum

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,649 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The way this season has gone, with underdogs winning when they shouldn't, who can even try to predict what's going to happen in the playoffs?

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,600 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2dueces said:
    Game of the week. Predictions. I could throw a slew of useless stats at you about how Miami is 0 fer in games under 45 degrees, etc. how Miami is 1-4 (win against Dallas) (Does that really count?) against teams with winning records.
    Or how this could be a slight letdown for Baltimore after last week’s game although the #1 seed is at stake.
    So who you got and why?
    Miami at Baltimore

    Baltimore is going to flat out run over Miami, they are down Waddle and they really can't eat too tier opponents, Dallas doesn't count in my opinion

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,216 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog is 100% right on baltimore/miami. i dont think it will be close. This leaves the ball in Buffalos court to run the table and win the division.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The latest report is Ramsey is nursing a knee injury, possibly swelling from returning to soon from surgery. X Howard is questionable with a hip injury. Holland is also on the injury report as questionable.
    That’s 3 of 4 starters in the defensive backfield

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,216 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2dueces said:
    The latest report is Ramsey is nursing a knee injury, possibly swelling from returning to soon from surgery. X Howard is questionable with a hip injury. Holland is also on the injury report as questionable.
    That’s 3 of 4 starters in the defensive backfield

    that does not bode well...

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:

    @2dueces said:
    The latest report is Ramsey is nursing a knee injury, possibly swelling from returning to soon from surgery. X Howard is questionable with a hip injury. Holland is also on the injury report as questionable.
    That’s 3 of 4 starters in the defensive backfield

    that does not bode well...

    Waddle is out and Hill is not 100%.

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 30, 2023 9:19AM

    Just to get away from all the happy talk that there are injured Miami Dolphins I thought I'd post the current injury report for both teams. Suffice as to say that it's late in the season and both teams have some key players who may not play. That's a sad thing, really, that in such an important game with far reaching implications we don't get to see each squad at their best.

    If it makes you happy that your team will benefit from injury, so be it. As a fan of NFL football I'd prefer everyone to be playing.


  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 30, 2023 9:50AM

    Never a fan of injuries. Not sure why you would think anyone would be fan? This is a business and players careers. Stating the current injury report is all over the internet.

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,600 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pointing out injuries for the sake of argument on who should win a football game is as old as the game itself lol

    Why get weird and post about imaginary people acting happy about Miami players being injured lol

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,216 ✭✭✭✭✭

    at this point in the schedule, almost all NFL players are dealing with something or other. even if they are not on the injury report. Look at Mahomes last week. he may not have been injured, but he was clearly exhausted.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭✭✭

    at this point in the schedule, almost all NFL players are dealing with something or other

    That's why the healthiest team(s) often has the best shot in the playoffs, the NFL schedule is brutal. And the owners/league office are so greedy they want more than just 17 games and more than just the NFL playing in the USA.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,600 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Maywood said:
    at this point in the schedule, almost all NFL players are dealing with something or other

    That's why the healthiest team(s) often has the best shot in the playoffs, the NFL schedule is brutal. And the owners/league office are so greedy they want more than just 17 games and more than just the NFL playing in the USA.

    It makes that first round bye that much more appealing but quite a few teams have lost after having a bye, they get out of sync sometimes

    But without a doubt the healthier roster is a massive advantage

  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I could point out Buffalo lost Tre White and Matt Milano to season ending injuries. Both top 10 at their position and Milano may be the best linebacker in all football.
    Von Miller is still far from 100% recovered from his 2nd knee injury.
    It’s sucks, but it happens.

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,216 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2dueces said:
    I could point out Buffalo lost Tre White and Matt Milano to season ending injuries. Both top 10 at their position and Milano may be the best linebacker in all football.
    Von Miller is still far from 100% recovered from his 2nd knee injury.
    It’s sucks, but it happens.

    good points. Buffalo could have been a juggernaut without the defensive injuries.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,216 ✭✭✭✭✭

    very nice ceremony at halftime at Dallas. Jimmie gave a great speech.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,649 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Final score: Refs 21 - Detroit 20

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

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