@erikthredd said:
LB Mack Wilson re-signed on a 1yr/2M deal. Their entire 2022 LB core is returning for 2023.
LB position was strong so this is good
98.5 doesn't think so and they're absolutely killing their free agent moves right now which is no surprise lol.
The LBs were so slow and they shouldn't have spent that 2M on Wilson returning.
Signing Jerome Robinson when they could re-sign Harris and just drafted two RBs last year even though Robinson would be the best option as a 3rd down back.
Signing 34yr old T Riley Reiff to a 1yr deal will apparently somehow hurt them in the long run.
Tendering CB Myles Bryant & OL Yodny Cajuste as if this means they're already signed to guaranteed money,which they're not.
Not sure about adding a high second on top of what would be the 14th pick in the draft for Jeudy. Maybe include WR Ty Montgomery or one of the two RBs drafted last year,Harris or Strong.
As much as I want Jeudy no.way I'd give 1 & 2 picks for him, the 2nd with Harris is do able but not goi g to get it done I don't believe
As far as 98.5 they stir the pot to get more callers and hot button discussions going, if they said they loved every move it wouldn't draw as much ire lol
So far.... Additions:
WR JuJu Smith-Schuster
TE Mike Gesicki
RB James Robinson
OT Riley Reiff
OL Calvin Anderson
Returning:
CB Jonathan Jones
S Jabril Peppers
LB Mack Wilson
ILB Raekwon McMillan
WR/ST Matt SLater
LS Joe Cardona
DT CArl Davis
DT Daniel Ekuale
OL JamesFerentz
OT Conor McDermott
Tendered:
CB Myles Bryant
OT Yody Cajuste
Lost:
WR Jakobi Meyers
S Devin Mccourty
TE Jonnu SMith
QB Brian Hoyer
P Jake Bailey
Their offense has slowly started looking much better with:
Wr: JuJu/Parker/Bourne/Thornton/Montgomery
RB: Stevenson/Robinson/Strong/K.Harris/Taylor
TE: Henry/Gesicki/Sokol
My master plan going forward 😎
Either trade for jeudy or draft another WR somewhat high
draft a starting caliber LT or RT
draft another young TE
Use remaining picks on OL/DL depth and CBs
re-sign Damien Harris cheap if possible.
@erikthredd said:
Here's hoping BoB can turn them into a poor man's pairing of Gronk & Hernandez but at least better than the Hunter Henry/Jonnu Smith duo.
Their offense has slowly started looking much better with:
Wr: JuJu/Parker/Bourne/Thornton/Montgomery
RB: Stevenson/Robinson/Strong/K.Harris/Taylor
TE: Henry/Gesicki/Sokol
My master plan going forward 😎
Either trade for jeudy or draft another WR somewhat high
draft a starting caliber LT or RT
draft another young TE
Use remaining picks on OL/DL depth and CBs
re-sign Damien Harris cheap if possible.
...
Easier said than done, but I hope it comes to fruition. Pats are not meant to be AFC cellar dwellers.
@craig44 said:
so far i am liking how this is turning out. I would love Jeudy. not at the expense of the 1st round pick though.
Yeah,I'm good with who they've brought in and brought back too. If Bill can sign Rams safety Taylor Rapp to replace Mccourty that would be the cherry on top. He visited NE yesterday and was heading to Cincy today but the Bengals just signed another Rams safety Nick Scott earlier so hopefully that works in our favor.
SI.com’s Albert Breer reports that the Cardinals are seeking “a second-rounder plus something else of value” or “similar to what the Texans got for DeAndre Hopkins” in 2020. The Cardinals’ deal with the Texans was getting Hopkins and a fourth-round pick in exchange for a second-rounder, a fourth-rounder and running back David Johnson.
Hopkins would have to definitely renegotiate his contract if BB made a deal for him when he's due to count for 30/26M over the next two seasons.
I have a sneaking suspicion that the next time we make a playoff run it's going to feel a little like it did during the 85 season. I am not talking about the way it ended, but rather the idea of it being unexpected and bringing much joy to the fan base.
We will all buy our 'kill the Bills' shirts, and our 'don't sweat the Jets' hats, and get down to business.
@thisistheshow said:
I have a sneaking suspicion that the next time we make a playoff run it's going to feel a little like it did during the 85 season. I am not talking about the way it ended, but rather the idea of it being unexpected and bringing much joy to the fan base.
We will all buy our 'kill the Bills' shirts, and our 'don't sweat the Jets' hats, and get down to business.
I think we will need "Squish the Fish" shirts more than Bills or Jets shirts
@thisistheshow said:
I have a sneaking suspicion that the next time we make a playoff run it's going to feel a little like it did during the 85 season. I am not talking about the way it ended, but rather the idea of it being unexpected and bringing much joy to the fan base.
We will all buy our 'kill the Bills' shirts, and our 'don't sweat the Jets' hats, and get down to business.
I think we will need "Squish the Fish" shirts more than Bills or Jets shirts
@thisistheshow said:
I have a sneaking suspicion that the next time we make a playoff run it's going to feel a little like it did during the 85 season. I am not talking about the way it ended, but rather the idea of it being unexpected and bringing much joy to the fan base.
We will all buy our 'kill the Bills' shirts, and our 'don't sweat the Jets' hats, and get down to business.
I think we will need "Squish the Fish" shirts more than Bills or Jets shirts
....
I still see Josh Allen as the real threat...
I don't, he wears down towards the end d of the season both physically and mentally, by no means do I think Tua is better but overall the Fins will have a much stronger team this year I believe
@thisistheshow said:
I have a sneaking suspicion that the next time we make a playoff run it's going to feel a little like it did during the 85 season. I am not talking about the way it ended, but rather the idea of it being unexpected and bringing much joy to the fan base.
We will all buy our 'kill the Bills' shirts, and our 'don't sweat the Jets' hats, and get down to business.
I think we will need "Squish the Fish" shirts more than Bills or Jets shirts
....
I still see Josh Allen as the real threat...
I don't, he wears down towards the end d of the season both physically and mentally, by no means do I think Tua is better but overall the Fins will have a much stronger team this year I believe
Obviously there is a major breakdown Between Mac and Hoodies staff
Mac's value is low I'm thinking
I was listening to Gresh & Fauria and they think that this is nothing but clickbait and don't believe any of it. That if the Raiders were really interested they would have just made a deal for him rather than paying Jimmy G's 72M over 3 years where Mac is due to make roughly 9M in 2023-24.
The worst part about all of this is that the media covering this team will drag this drama out for as long as they can. It does kind of suck that his trade value is as low as it is because I'd say just cut bait and start over with Zappe until they can find a better option.
Obviously there is a major breakdown Between Mac and Hoodies staff
Mac's value is low I'm thinking
I was listening to Gresh & Fauria and they think that this is nothing but clickbait and don't believe any of it. That if the Raiders were really interested they would have just made a deal for him rather than paying Jimmy G's 72M over 3 years where Mac is due to make roughly 9M in 2023-24.
The worst part about all of this is that the media covering this team will drag this drama out for as long as they can. It does kind of suck that his trade value is as low as it is because I'd say just cut bait and start over with Zappe until they can find a better option.
I'm hoping that Zappe gets a real shot if Mac fails miserable, I'm not rooting for Mac to fail though
Obviously there is a major breakdown Between Mac and Hoodies staff
Mac's value is low I'm thinking
I was listening to Gresh & Fauria and they think that this is nothing but clickbait and don't believe any of it. That if the Raiders were really interested they would have just made a deal for him rather than paying Jimmy G's 72M over 3 years where Mac is due to make roughly 9M in 2023-24.
The worst part about all of this is that the media covering this team will drag this drama out for as long as they can. It does kind of suck that his trade value is as low as it is because I'd say just cut bait and start over with Zappe until they can find a better option.
I'm hoping that Zappe gets a real shot if Mac fails miserable, I'm not rooting for Mac to fail though
I'm not either but its turned into Days of Our Lives down there in Foxboro over the past year and doesn't look like its going to stop anytime soon. Bill needs his 18 wins to pass Shula then if the rumors are true Jerod Mayo would take over as HC that next offseason.
I just want to see them pick their guy then do everything they can to help him succeed,be it Mac,Zappe or whoever.
Obviously there is a major breakdown Between Mac and Hoodies staff
Mac's value is low I'm thinking
I was listening to Gresh & Fauria and they think that this is nothing but clickbait and don't believe any of it. That if the Raiders were really interested they would have just made a deal for him rather than paying Jimmy G's 72M over 3 years where Mac is due to make roughly 9M in 2023-24.
The worst part about all of this is that the media covering this team will drag this drama out for as long as they can. It does kind of suck that his trade value is as low as it is because I'd say just cut bait and start over with Zappe until they can find a better option.
I'm hoping that Zappe gets a real shot if Mac fails miserable, I'm not rooting for Mac to fail though
I'm not either but its turned into Days of Our Lives down there in Foxboro over the past year and doesn't look like its going to stop anytime soon. Bill needs his 18 wins to pass Shula then if the rumors are true Jerod Mayo would take over as HC that next offseason.
I just want to see them pick their guy then do everything they can to help him succeed,be it Mac,Zappe or whoever.
Obviously we want what's best for our team so be it Mac or Zappe or whoever, I don't really care I just want it ironed out.
Last season was an utter disaster, I'm not looking forward to next season being a carbon copy of last year.
It's early, we got time and if Mac is definitely being shopped then the sooner the better so we can move forward
I am definitely not rooting against Mac, but my confidence in him is not high either. I would be willing to give him another chance with a real OC, but that would be it as far as I am concerned
@craig44 said:
I am definitely not rooting against Mac, but my confidence in him is not high either. I would be willing to give him another chance with a real OC, but that would be it as far as I am concerned
Well I'm with you but have zero faith in Bill Obrien to be honest, plus if Bill is not a fan of this kid then the drama is just going to get worse
@craig44 said:
I am definitely not rooting against Mac, but my confidence in him is not high either. I would be willing to give him another chance with a real OC, but that would be it as far as I am concerned
Well I'm with you but have zero faith in Bill Obrien to be honest, plus if Bill is not a fan of this kid then the drama is just going to get worse
Well that one year that BoB did run the Pats offense in 2011 they finished with the 10th (at the time) highest scoring offense in history but since then that 2011 team has fallen to 17th best all time. He's not Josh McDaniels but imo he's not far behind him when it comes to running an offense.
If we're being honest,he really doesn't need to pull any miracles here with this team just come in and do a steady job while helping to develop Mac. Where both Patricia & Judge had never run an offense before,by adding BoB its already been an improvement. BB stills needs to add another playmaker or two at the WR/TE positions though even if it means trading back in the first to add some additional picks.
@craig44 said:
I am definitely not rooting against Mac, but my confidence in him is not high either. I would be willing to give him another chance with a real OC, but that would be it as far as I am concerned
Well I'm with you but have zero faith in Bill Obrien to be honest, plus if Bill is not a fan of this kid then the drama is just going to get worse
Well that one year that BoB did run the Pats offense in 2011 they finished with the 10th (at the time) highest scoring offense in history but since then that 2011 team has fallen to 17th best all time. He's not Josh McDaniels but imo he's not far behind him when it comes to running an offense.
If we're being honest,he really doesn't need to pull any miracles here with this team just come in and do a steady job while helping to develop Mac. Where both Patricia & Judge had never run an offense before,by adding BoB its already been an improvement. BB stills needs to add another playmaker or two at the WR/TE positions though even if it means trading back in the first to add some additional picks.
Sure I get the BoB doing well with Brady and Co but he turned Houston into an utter disaster, I just can't see him having the patience to deal with Mac while Hoodie is barking at him, like Mac could be putting BoB and Hoodie at odds and all this could add to the drama but who knows what's really going on.
As I said I don't expect a Playoff appearance especially if Rodgers comes to the Jets, the AFC East could be one of the toughest divisions in the NFL with the Pats looking up at everyone
@craig44 said:
I am definitely not rooting against Mac, but my confidence in him is not high either. I would be willing to give him another chance with a real OC, but that would be it as far as I am concerned
Well I'm with you but have zero faith in Bill Obrien to be honest, plus if Bill is not a fan of this kid then the drama is just going to get worse
Well that one year that BoB did run the Pats offense in 2011 they finished with the 10th (at the time) highest scoring offense in history but since then that 2011 team has fallen to 17th best all time. He's not Josh McDaniels but imo he's not far behind him when it comes to running an offense.
If we're being honest,he really doesn't need to pull any miracles here with this team just come in and do a steady job while helping to develop Mac. Where both Patricia & Judge had never run an offense before,by adding BoB its already been an improvement. BB stills needs to add another playmaker or two at the WR/TE positions though even if it means trading back in the first to add some additional picks.
Sure I get the BoB doing well with Brady and Co but he turned Houston into an utter disaster, I just can't see him having the patience to deal with Mac while Hoodie is barking at him, like Mac could be putting BoB and Hoodie at odds and all this could add to the drama but who knows what's really going on.
As I said I don't expect a Playoff appearance especially if Rodgers comes to the Jets, the AFC East could be one of the toughest divisions in the NFL with the Pats looking up at everyone
But in Houston he was the head coach and in an entirely different role. Some coordinators that have been great here then went elsewhere and weren't that good as the HC...BoB,McDaniels,Patricia,Judge,Romeo Crennel,Charlie Weis. Running a certain unit is an entirely different beast than being responsible for everything.
I thing the BB barking at Mac stuff has been way overblown,in fact its really been the exact opposite where it came out that he didn't want to do that with Mac like he did with Brady. With Tom it was, he treats Brady like he does everyone else and Brady had no problem with that if it helped keep the team in line.
We know Belichick didn't like that Mac went for advice outside of the team but that all came out after the season ended so there never was a retaliation moment from BB towards Mac.
As for your last part,then so be it. This will be the fourth season removed from Brady and we knew all along that there wasn't going to be a quick flip back to being a top 1-3 contender in football. Last year was a setback but so far this offseason they've done a good job to this point at improving the coaching staff and roster.
IMO,the only real needs heading into the draft are a starting caliber Tackle,a talented WR and a rotational CB. One more pass catching TE and a late round punter would be nice too.
@craig44 said:
I am definitely not rooting against Mac, but my confidence in him is not high either. I would be willing to give him another chance with a real OC, but that would be it as far as I am concerned
Well I'm with you but have zero faith in Bill Obrien to be honest, plus if Bill is not a fan of this kid then the drama is just going to get worse
Well that one year that BoB did run the Pats offense in 2011 they finished with the 10th (at the time) highest scoring offense in history but since then that 2011 team has fallen to 17th best all time. He's not Josh McDaniels but imo he's not far behind him when it comes to running an offense.
If we're being honest,he really doesn't need to pull any miracles here with this team just come in and do a steady job while helping to develop Mac. Where both Patricia & Judge had never run an offense before,by adding BoB its already been an improvement. BB stills needs to add another playmaker or two at the WR/TE positions though even if it means trading back in the first to add some additional picks.
Sure I get the BoB doing well with Brady and Co but he turned Houston into an utter disaster, I just can't see him having the patience to deal with Mac while Hoodie is barking at him, like Mac could be putting BoB and Hoodie at odds and all this could add to the drama but who knows what's really going on.
As I said I don't expect a Playoff appearance especially if Rodgers comes to the Jets, the AFC East could be one of the toughest divisions in the NFL with the Pats looking up at everyone
But in Houston he was the head coach and in an entirely different role. Some coordinators that have been great here then went elsewhere and weren't that good as the HC...BoB,McDaniels,Patricia,Judge,Romeo Crennel,Charlie Weis. Running a certain unit is an entirely different beast than being responsible for everything.
I thing the BB barking at Mac stuff has been way overblown,in fact its really been the exact opposite where it came out that he didn't want to do that with Mac like he did with Brady. With Tom it was, he treats Brady like he does everyone else and Brady had no problem with that if it helped keep the team in line.
We know Belichick didn't like that Mac went for advice outside of the team but that all came out after the season ended so there never was a retaliation moment from BB towards Mac.
As for your last part,then so be it. This will be the fourth season removed from Brady and we knew all along that there wasn't going to be a quick flip back to being a top 1-3 contender in football. Last year was a setback but so far this offseason they've done a good job to this point at improving the coaching staff and roster.
IMO,the only real needs heading into the draft are a starting caliber Tackle,a talented WR and a rotational CB. One more pass catching TE and a late round punter would be nice too.
After I posted I realized that BoB was the HC not the OC so maybe your right
As far as Hoodie vs Mac and their drama if thete id any lets hope it gets sorted out before training camp
@craig44 said:
I am definitely not rooting against Mac, but my confidence in him is not high either. I would be willing to give him another chance with a real OC, but that would be it as far as I am concerned
Well I'm with you but have zero faith in Bill Obrien to be honest, plus if Bill is not a fan of this kid then the drama is just going to get worse
Well that one year that BoB did run the Pats offense in 2011 they finished with the 10th (at the time) highest scoring offense in history but since then that 2011 team has fallen to 17th best all time. He's not Josh McDaniels but imo he's not far behind him when it comes to running an offense.
If we're being honest,he really doesn't need to pull any miracles here with this team just come in and do a steady job while helping to develop Mac. Where both Patricia & Judge had never run an offense before,by adding BoB its already been an improvement. BB stills needs to add another playmaker or two at the WR/TE positions though even if it means trading back in the first to add some additional picks.
Sure I get the BoB doing well with Brady and Co but he turned Houston into an utter disaster, I just can't see him having the patience to deal with Mac while Hoodie is barking at him, like Mac could be putting BoB and Hoodie at odds and all this could add to the drama but who knows what's really going on.
As I said I don't expect a Playoff appearance especially if Rodgers comes to the Jets, the AFC East could be one of the toughest divisions in the NFL with the Pats looking up at everyone
But in Houston he was the head coach and in an entirely different role. Some coordinators that have been great here then went elsewhere and weren't that good as the HC...BoB,McDaniels,Patricia,Judge,Romeo Crennel,Charlie Weis. Running a certain unit is an entirely different beast than being responsible for everything.
I thing the BB barking at Mac stuff has been way overblown,in fact its really been the exact opposite where it came out that he didn't want to do that with Mac like he did with Brady. With Tom it was, he treats Brady like he does everyone else and Brady had no problem with that if it helped keep the team in line.
We know Belichick didn't like that Mac went for advice outside of the team but that all came out after the season ended so there never was a retaliation moment from BB towards Mac.
As for your last part,then so be it. This will be the fourth season removed from Brady and we knew all along that there wasn't going to be a quick flip back to being a top 1-3 contender in football. Last year was a setback but so far this offseason they've done a good job to this point at improving the coaching staff and roster.
IMO,the only real needs heading into the draft are a starting caliber Tackle,a talented WR and a rotational CB. One more pass catching TE and a late round punter would be nice too.
After I posted I realized that BoB was the HC not the OC so maybe your right
As far as Hoodie vs Mac and their drama if thete id any lets hope it gets sorted out before training camp
If we see BoB call three straight screen passes then I'll grab my stake & pitchfork and we can head down to Foxboro. 😉
I don't have much to add (for now, gotta do the dishes) other than...remember this classic moment? ...and I think that the fact that Mac was not Belichick's guy is important. Seems like it was a Kraft pick. 🤷 But I still have hope for a turnaround, if the Mac Attack can get back on track (and up off the clearance rack).
@craig44 said:
I am definitely not rooting against Mac, but my confidence in him is not high either. I would be willing to give him another chance with a real OC, but that would be it as far as I am concerned
Well I'm with you but have zero faith in Bill Obrien to be honest, plus if Bill is not a fan of this kid then the drama is just going to get worse
Well that one year that BoB did run the Pats offense in 2011 they finished with the 10th (at the time) highest scoring offense in history but since then that 2011 team has fallen to 17th best all time. He's not Josh McDaniels but imo he's not far behind him when it comes to running an offense.
If we're being honest,he really doesn't need to pull any miracles here with this team just come in and do a steady job while helping to develop Mac. Where both Patricia & Judge had never run an offense before,by adding BoB its already been an improvement. BB stills needs to add another playmaker or two at the WR/TE positions though even if it means trading back in the first to add some additional picks.
Sure I get the BoB doing well with Brady and Co but he turned Houston into an utter disaster, I just can't see him having the patience to deal with Mac while Hoodie is barking at him, like Mac could be putting BoB and Hoodie at odds and all this could add to the drama but who knows what's really going on.
As I said I don't expect a Playoff appearance especially if Rodgers comes to the Jets, the AFC East could be one of the toughest divisions in the NFL with the Pats looking up at everyone
But in Houston he was the head coach and in an entirely different role. Some coordinators that have been great here then went elsewhere and weren't that good as the HC...BoB,McDaniels,Patricia,Judge,Romeo Crennel,Charlie Weis. Running a certain unit is an entirely different beast than being responsible for everything.
I thing the BB barking at Mac stuff has been way overblown,in fact its really been the exact opposite where it came out that he didn't want to do that with Mac like he did with Brady. With Tom it was, he treats Brady like he does everyone else and Brady had no problem with that if it helped keep the team in line.
We know Belichick didn't like that Mac went for advice outside of the team but that all came out after the season ended so there never was a retaliation moment from BB towards Mac.
As for your last part,then so be it. This will be the fourth season removed from Brady and we knew all along that there wasn't going to be a quick flip back to being a top 1-3 contender in football. Last year was a setback but so far this offseason they've done a good job to this point at improving the coaching staff and roster.
IMO,the only real needs heading into the draft are a starting caliber Tackle,a talented WR and a rotational CB. One more pass catching TE and a late round punter would be nice too.
After I posted I realized that BoB was the HC not the OC so maybe your right
As far as Hoodie vs Mac and their drama if thete id any lets hope it gets sorted out before training camp
If we see BoB call three straight screen passes then I'll grab my stake & pitchfork and we can head down to Foxboro. 😉
....
I'm taking a break from the dishes. I tend to be overly slow with these sorts of tasks. Anyway, let me know if we are doing some sort of football related civil disobedience at Foxboro. Give me some advance notice so I can make my way North. Thank you in advance. 😜🏈 💣⚔️🚔👀🤬🤦🙁
@craig44 said:
I am definitely not rooting against Mac, but my confidence in him is not high either. I would be willing to give him another chance with a real OC, but that would be it as far as I am concerned
Well I'm with you but have zero faith in Bill Obrien to be honest, plus if Bill is not a fan of this kid then the drama is just going to get worse
Well that one year that BoB did run the Pats offense in 2011 they finished with the 10th (at the time) highest scoring offense in history but since then that 2011 team has fallen to 17th best all time. He's not Josh McDaniels but imo he's not far behind him when it comes to running an offense.
If we're being honest,he really doesn't need to pull any miracles here with this team just come in and do a steady job while helping to develop Mac. Where both Patricia & Judge had never run an offense before,by adding BoB its already been an improvement. BB stills needs to add another playmaker or two at the WR/TE positions though even if it means trading back in the first to add some additional picks.
Sure I get the BoB doing well with Brady and Co but he turned Houston into an utter disaster, I just can't see him having the patience to deal with Mac while Hoodie is barking at him, like Mac could be putting BoB and Hoodie at odds and all this could add to the drama but who knows what's really going on.
As I said I don't expect a Playoff appearance especially if Rodgers comes to the Jets, the AFC East could be one of the toughest divisions in the NFL with the Pats looking up at everyone
But in Houston he was the head coach and in an entirely different role. Some coordinators that have been great here then went elsewhere and weren't that good as the HC...BoB,McDaniels,Patricia,Judge,Romeo Crennel,Charlie Weis. Running a certain unit is an entirely different beast than being responsible for everything.
I thing the BB barking at Mac stuff has been way overblown,in fact its really been the exact opposite where it came out that he didn't want to do that with Mac like he did with Brady. With Tom it was, he treats Brady like he does everyone else and Brady had no problem with that if it helped keep the team in line.
We know Belichick didn't like that Mac went for advice outside of the team but that all came out after the season ended so there never was a retaliation moment from BB towards Mac.
As for your last part,then so be it. This will be the fourth season removed from Brady and we knew all along that there wasn't going to be a quick flip back to being a top 1-3 contender in football. Last year was a setback but so far this offseason they've done a good job to this point at improving the coaching staff and roster.
IMO,the only real needs heading into the draft are a starting caliber Tackle,a talented WR and a rotational CB. One more pass catching TE and a late round punter would be nice too.
After I posted I realized that BoB was the HC not the OC so maybe your right
As far as Hoodie vs Mac and their drama if thete id any lets hope it gets sorted out before training camp
If we see BoB call three straight screen passes then I'll grab my stake & pitchfork and we can head down to Foxboro. 😉
....
I'm taking a break from the dishes. I tend to be overly slow with these sorts of tasks. Anyway, let me know if we are doing some sort of football related civil disobedience at Foxboro. Give me some advance notice so I can make my way North. Thank you in advance. 😜🏈 💣⚔️🚔👀🤬🤦🙁
That all depends on if our fearless leader lets everything go t!ts up again. 👿
@craig44 said:
I am definitely not rooting against Mac, but my confidence in him is not high either. I would be willing to give him another chance with a real OC, but that would be it as far as I am concerned
Well I'm with you but have zero faith in Bill Obrien to be honest, plus if Bill is not a fan of this kid then the drama is just going to get worse
Well that one year that BoB did run the Pats offense in 2011 they finished with the 10th (at the time) highest scoring offense in history but since then that 2011 team has fallen to 17th best all time. He's not Josh McDaniels but imo he's not far behind him when it comes to running an offense.
If we're being honest,he really doesn't need to pull any miracles here with this team just come in and do a steady job while helping to develop Mac. Where both Patricia & Judge had never run an offense before,by adding BoB its already been an improvement. BB stills needs to add another playmaker or two at the WR/TE positions though even if it means trading back in the first to add some additional picks.
Sure I get the BoB doing well with Brady and Co but he turned Houston into an utter disaster, I just can't see him having the patience to deal with Mac while Hoodie is barking at him, like Mac could be putting BoB and Hoodie at odds and all this could add to the drama but who knows what's really going on.
As I said I don't expect a Playoff appearance especially if Rodgers comes to the Jets, the AFC East could be one of the toughest divisions in the NFL with the Pats looking up at everyone
But in Houston he was the head coach and in an entirely different role. Some coordinators that have been great here then went elsewhere and weren't that good as the HC...BoB,McDaniels,Patricia,Judge,Romeo Crennel,Charlie Weis. Running a certain unit is an entirely different beast than being responsible for everything.
I thing the BB barking at Mac stuff has been way overblown,in fact its really been the exact opposite where it came out that he didn't want to do that with Mac like he did with Brady. With Tom it was, he treats Brady like he does everyone else and Brady had no problem with that if it helped keep the team in line.
We know Belichick didn't like that Mac went for advice outside of the team but that all came out after the season ended so there never was a retaliation moment from BB towards Mac.
As for your last part,then so be it. This will be the fourth season removed from Brady and we knew all along that there wasn't going to be a quick flip back to being a top 1-3 contender in football. Last year was a setback but so far this offseason they've done a good job to this point at improving the coaching staff and roster.
IMO,the only real needs heading into the draft are a starting caliber Tackle,a talented WR and a rotational CB. One more pass catching TE and a late round punter would be nice too.
After I posted I realized that BoB was the HC not the OC so maybe your right
As far as Hoodie vs Mac and their drama if thete id any lets hope it gets sorted out before training camp
If we see BoB call three straight screen passes then I'll grab my stake & pitchfork and we can head down to Foxboro. 😉
....
I'm taking a break from the dishes. I tend to be overly slow with these sorts of tasks. Anyway, let me know if we are doing some sort of football related civil disobedience at Foxboro. Give me some advance notice so I can make my way North. Thank you in advance. 😜🏈 💣⚔️🚔👀🤬🤦🙁
That all depends on if our fearless leader lets everything go t!ts up again. 👿
...
One of my main disappointments of the post Brady years has been the sloppiness of the team and seeming lack of situational preparation, etc. The fundamentals and discipline are what always buoyed the team. I imagine there has been a lack of effort and buy in. That happens when the team is not winning and the expectation is no longer SB or bust. Still, I also imagine that sone of this is top down, meaning as a direct result of changes to Belichick's attitude, or ability to control guys, or...
@craig44 said:
I am definitely not rooting against Mac, but my confidence in him is not high either. I would be willing to give him another chance with a real OC, but that would be it as far as I am concerned
Well I'm with you but have zero faith in Bill Obrien to be honest, plus if Bill is not a fan of this kid then the drama is just going to get worse
Well that one year that BoB did run the Pats offense in 2011 they finished with the 10th (at the time) highest scoring offense in history but since then that 2011 team has fallen to 17th best all time. He's not Josh McDaniels but imo he's not far behind him when it comes to running an offense.
If we're being honest,he really doesn't need to pull any miracles here with this team just come in and do a steady job while helping to develop Mac. Where both Patricia & Judge had never run an offense before,by adding BoB its already been an improvement. BB stills needs to add another playmaker or two at the WR/TE positions though even if it means trading back in the first to add some additional picks.
Sure I get the BoB doing well with Brady and Co but he turned Houston into an utter disaster, I just can't see him having the patience to deal with Mac while Hoodie is barking at him, like Mac could be putting BoB and Hoodie at odds and all this could add to the drama but who knows what's really going on.
As I said I don't expect a Playoff appearance especially if Rodgers comes to the Jets, the AFC East could be one of the toughest divisions in the NFL with the Pats looking up at everyone
But in Houston he was the head coach and in an entirely different role. Some coordinators that have been great here then went elsewhere and weren't that good as the HC...BoB,McDaniels,Patricia,Judge,Romeo Crennel,Charlie Weis. Running a certain unit is an entirely different beast than being responsible for everything.
I thing the BB barking at Mac stuff has been way overblown,in fact its really been the exact opposite where it came out that he didn't want to do that with Mac like he did with Brady. With Tom it was, he treats Brady like he does everyone else and Brady had no problem with that if it helped keep the team in line.
We know Belichick didn't like that Mac went for advice outside of the team but that all came out after the season ended so there never was a retaliation moment from BB towards Mac.
As for your last part,then so be it. This will be the fourth season removed from Brady and we knew all along that there wasn't going to be a quick flip back to being a top 1-3 contender in football. Last year was a setback but so far this offseason they've done a good job to this point at improving the coaching staff and roster.
IMO,the only real needs heading into the draft are a starting caliber Tackle,a talented WR and a rotational CB. One more pass catching TE and a late round punter would be nice too.
After I posted I realized that BoB was the HC not the OC so maybe your right
As far as Hoodie vs Mac and their drama if thete id any lets hope it gets sorted out before training camp
If we see BoB call three straight screen passes then I'll grab my stake & pitchfork and we can head down to Foxboro. 😉
....
I'm taking a break from the dishes. I tend to be overly slow with these sorts of tasks. Anyway, let me know if we are doing some sort of football related civil disobedience at Foxboro. Give me some advance notice so I can make my way North. Thank you in advance. 😜🏈 💣⚔️🚔👀🤬🤦🙁
That all depends on if our fearless leader lets everything go t!ts up again. 👿
...
One of my main disappointments of the post Brady years has been the sloppiness of the team and seeming lack of situational preparation, etc. The fundamentals and discipline are what always buoyed the team. I imagine there has been a lack of effort and buy in. That happens when the team is not winning and the expectation is no longer SB or bust. Still, I also imagine that sone of this is top down, meaning as a direct result of changes to Belichick's attitude, or ability to control guys, or...
I think most of that has to do with losing Brady,who was like another OC on the field,then losing McDaniels. That was alot of stability at the top who had literally been in every situation possible on offense,then last season we had 2nd year Mac and two coaches in Patricia & Judge who had never been in that OC role before.
The offensive side of the ball didn't have that veteran type voice to turn too like it had in the past. James White was closest to possibly taking on that role but he retired early last season. Ideally we'd like to see Mac take the reins but between the team dropping the ball on his development in year two and getting injured only to return to then get benched first game made it hard for him to take on that leadership role.
@craig44 said:
I am definitely not rooting against Mac, but my confidence in him is not high either. I would be willing to give him another chance with a real OC, but that would be it as far as I am concerned
Well I'm with you but have zero faith in Bill Obrien to be honest, plus if Bill is not a fan of this kid then the drama is just going to get worse
Well that one year that BoB did run the Pats offense in 2011 they finished with the 10th (at the time) highest scoring offense in history but since then that 2011 team has fallen to 17th best all time. He's not Josh McDaniels but imo he's not far behind him when it comes to running an offense.
If we're being honest,he really doesn't need to pull any miracles here with this team just come in and do a steady job while helping to develop Mac. Where both Patricia & Judge had never run an offense before,by adding BoB its already been an improvement. BB stills needs to add another playmaker or two at the WR/TE positions though even if it means trading back in the first to add some additional picks.
Sure I get the BoB doing well with Brady and Co but he turned Houston into an utter disaster, I just can't see him having the patience to deal with Mac while Hoodie is barking at him, like Mac could be putting BoB and Hoodie at odds and all this could add to the drama but who knows what's really going on.
As I said I don't expect a Playoff appearance especially if Rodgers comes to the Jets, the AFC East could be one of the toughest divisions in the NFL with the Pats looking up at everyone
But in Houston he was the head coach and in an entirely different role. Some coordinators that have been great here then went elsewhere and weren't that good as the HC...BoB,McDaniels,Patricia,Judge,Romeo Crennel,Charlie Weis. Running a certain unit is an entirely different beast than being responsible for everything.
I thing the BB barking at Mac stuff has been way overblown,in fact its really been the exact opposite where it came out that he didn't want to do that with Mac like he did with Brady. With Tom it was, he treats Brady like he does everyone else and Brady had no problem with that if it helped keep the team in line.
We know Belichick didn't like that Mac went for advice outside of the team but that all came out after the season ended so there never was a retaliation moment from BB towards Mac.
As for your last part,then so be it. This will be the fourth season removed from Brady and we knew all along that there wasn't going to be a quick flip back to being a top 1-3 contender in football. Last year was a setback but so far this offseason they've done a good job to this point at improving the coaching staff and roster.
IMO,the only real needs heading into the draft are a starting caliber Tackle,a talented WR and a rotational CB. One more pass catching TE and a late round punter would be nice too.
After I posted I realized that BoB was the HC not the OC so maybe your right
As far as Hoodie vs Mac and their drama if thete id any lets hope it gets sorted out before training camp
If we see BoB call three straight screen passes then I'll grab my stake & pitchfork and we can head down to Foxboro. 😉
@craig44 said:
I am definitely not rooting against Mac, but my confidence in him is not high either. I would be willing to give him another chance with a real OC, but that would be it as far as I am concerned
Well I'm with you but have zero faith in Bill Obrien to be honest, plus if Bill is not a fan of this kid then the drama is just going to get worse
Well that one year that BoB did run the Pats offense in 2011 they finished with the 10th (at the time) highest scoring offense in history but since then that 2011 team has fallen to 17th best all time. He's not Josh McDaniels but imo he's not far behind him when it comes to running an offense.
If we're being honest,he really doesn't need to pull any miracles here with this team just come in and do a steady job while helping to develop Mac. Where both Patricia & Judge had never run an offense before,by adding BoB its already been an improvement. BB stills needs to add another playmaker or two at the WR/TE positions though even if it means trading back in the first to add some additional picks.
Sure I get the BoB doing well with Brady and Co but he turned Houston into an utter disaster, I just can't see him having the patience to deal with Mac while Hoodie is barking at him, like Mac could be putting BoB and Hoodie at odds and all this could add to the drama but who knows what's really going on.
As I said I don't expect a Playoff appearance especially if Rodgers comes to the Jets, the AFC East could be one of the toughest divisions in the NFL with the Pats looking up at everyone
But in Houston he was the head coach and in an entirely different role. Some coordinators that have been great here then went elsewhere and weren't that good as the HC...BoB,McDaniels,Patricia,Judge,Romeo Crennel,Charlie Weis. Running a certain unit is an entirely different beast than being responsible for everything.
I thing the BB barking at Mac stuff has been way overblown,in fact its really been the exact opposite where it came out that he didn't want to do that with Mac like he did with Brady. With Tom it was, he treats Brady like he does everyone else and Brady had no problem with that if it helped keep the team in line.
We know Belichick didn't like that Mac went for advice outside of the team but that all came out after the season ended so there never was a retaliation moment from BB towards Mac.
As for your last part,then so be it. This will be the fourth season removed from Brady and we knew all along that there wasn't going to be a quick flip back to being a top 1-3 contender in football. Last year was a setback but so far this offseason they've done a good job to this point at improving the coaching staff and roster.
IMO,the only real needs heading into the draft are a starting caliber Tackle,a talented WR and a rotational CB. One more pass catching TE and a late round punter would be nice too.
After I posted I realized that BoB was the HC not the OC so maybe your right
As far as Hoodie vs Mac and their drama if thete id any lets hope it gets sorted out before training camp
If we see BoB call three straight screen passes then I'll grab my stake & pitchfork and we can head down to Foxboro. 😉
....
I'm taking a break from the dishes. I tend to be overly slow with these sorts of tasks. Anyway, let me know if we are doing some sort of football related civil disobedience at Foxboro. Give me some advance notice so I can make my way North. Thank you in advance. 😜🏈 💣⚔️🚔👀🤬🤦🙁
That all depends on if our fearless leader lets everything go t!ts up again. 👿
...
One of my main disappointments of the post Brady years has been the sloppiness of the team and seeming lack of situational preparation, etc. The fundamentals and discipline are what always buoyed the team. I imagine there has been a lack of effort and buy in. That happens when the team is not winning and the expectation is no longer SB or bust. Still, I also imagine that sone of this is top down, meaning as a direct result of changes to Belichick's attitude, or ability to control guys, or...
I think most of that has to do with losing Brady,who was like another OC on the field,then losing McDaniels. That was alot of stability at the top who had literally been in every situation possible on offense,then last season we had 2nd year Mac and two coaches in Patricia & Judge who had never been in that OC role before.
The offensive side of the ball didn't have that veteran type voice to turn too like it had in the past. James White was closest to possibly taking on that role but he retired early last season. Ideally we'd like to see Mac take the reins but between the team dropping the ball on his development in year two and getting injured only to return to then get benched first game made it hard for him to take on that leadership role.
...
The Mac benching was wild.
Anyone remember the movie Brewster's Millions? 1985. John Candy. Richard Pryor. Looking it up just now, I was shocked to see how many versions were made throughout the 20th century prior to that one. Anyway, in the movie (as far as I recall) Richard Pryor has to spend 30 million to get 300 million. But there are rules. He can't just give it away, etc, and he can't tell people what he's doing. So as the movie goes on, he looks like he is just wasting away the money. He is forced to find ways to lose it. Anyway ...
Thinking about Belichick and the Pats reminded me of this. Imagine Belichick is tasked with giving away his legacy, and position of respect within the team. What decisions would he make? Bench Mac like he did? Bring in Patricia? Judge? Etc. Etc. And what is he doing it for? 🤷🏈🤬🤣
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Regarding Meyers and Ju Ju, there is no question in my mind that Ju Ju has better hands
LB Mack Wilson re-signed on a 1yr/2M deal. Their entire 2022 LB core is returning for 2023.
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LB position was strong so this is good
98.5 doesn't think so and they're absolutely killing their free agent moves right now which is no surprise lol.
The LBs were so slow and they shouldn't have spent that 2M on Wilson returning.
Signing Jerome Robinson when they could re-sign Harris and just drafted two RBs last year even though Robinson would be the best option as a 3rd down back.
Signing 34yr old T Riley Reiff to a 1yr deal will apparently somehow hurt them in the long run.
Tendering CB Myles Bryant & OL Yodny Cajuste as if this means they're already signed to guaranteed money,which they're not.
😂🤣😂🤣
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Waiting to hear how Rams FS Taylor Rapp's trip to Foxboro went today. He'd be a decent Mccourty replacement.
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Not sure about adding a high second on top of what would be the 14th pick in the draft for Jeudy. Maybe include WR Ty Montgomery or one of the two RBs drafted last year,Harris or Strong.
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As much as I want Jeudy no.way I'd give 1 & 2 picks for him, the 2nd with Harris is do able but not goi g to get it done I don't believe
As far as 98.5 they stir the pot to get more callers and hot button discussions going, if they said they loved every move it wouldn't draw as much ire lol
Big TE signing confirmed! Multiple reports out that Fins TE Mike Gesicki signed with NE on 1yr/9M deal.
Pats LS Joe Cardona re-signs on 4yr deal and also DT Daniel Ekuale,no details though.
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So far....
Additions:
WR JuJu Smith-Schuster
TE Mike Gesicki
RB James Robinson
OT Riley Reiff
OL Calvin Anderson
Returning:
CB Jonathan Jones
S Jabril Peppers
LB Mack Wilson
ILB Raekwon McMillan
WR/ST Matt SLater
LS Joe Cardona
DT CArl Davis
DT Daniel Ekuale
OL JamesFerentz
OT Conor McDermott
Tendered:
CB Myles Bryant
OT Yody Cajuste
Lost:
WR Jakobi Meyers
S Devin Mccourty
TE Jonnu SMith
QB Brian Hoyer
P Jake Bailey
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Here's hoping BoB can turn them into a poor man's pairing of Gronk & Hernandez but at least better than the Hunter Henry/Jonnu Smith duo.
Their offense has slowly started looking much better with:
Wr: JuJu/Parker/Bourne/Thornton/Montgomery
RB: Stevenson/Robinson/Strong/K.Harris/Taylor
TE: Henry/Gesicki/Sokol
My master plan going forward 😎
Either trade for jeudy or draft another WR somewhat high
draft a starting caliber LT or RT
draft another young TE
Use remaining picks on OL/DL depth and CBs
re-sign Damien Harris cheap if possible.
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Easier said than done, but I hope it comes to fruition. Pats are not meant to be AFC cellar dwellers.
It won't take much to out do the Henry/Smith fiasco
Henry/Gesieki sounds much better 👌
so far i am liking how this is turning out. I would love Jeudy. not at the expense of the 1st round pick though.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Honesty I'd give a first for him but not a chance I'm including our 2nd pick as well
Agreed,we could get two very good players with those 14th & 46th picks,add a later pick in the 4-5th round with that 1st for Jeudy then ok.
We just signed former Giants LB Chris Board to a 2yr deal. Sounds like he's more of a special teamer than LB.
Also they released CB Jalen Mills.
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Yeah,I'm good with who they've brought in and brought back too. If Bill can sign Rams safety Taylor Rapp to replace Mccourty that would be the cherry on top. He visited NE yesterday and was heading to Cincy today but the Bengals just signed another Rams safety Nick Scott earlier so hopefully that works in our favor.
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SI.com’s Albert Breer reports that the Cardinals are seeking “a second-rounder plus something else of value” or “similar to what the Texans got for DeAndre Hopkins” in 2020.
The Cardinals’ deal with the Texans was getting Hopkins and a fourth-round pick in exchange for a second-rounder, a fourth-rounder and running back David Johnson.
Hopkins would have to definitely renegotiate his contract if BB made a deal for him when he's due to count for 30/26M over the next two seasons.
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I don't think Hopkins is the right move.
Hopkins is an elite talent, he just happens to be on AZ
Not sure I'd pay huge money for him at this point, he is or will be 31 I think
Down here in Tex, it's a little Pats reunion with Cooks and Gilmore.
I'm out of the loop ...who's going to be doing our punting? ~per the norm, I'm askin for a friend
With four 6th rounders plus a 7th round pick they'll likely find someone.
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I am sitting right by the phone waiting for BB to call. I have been practicing. When I really get into one, I can punt it a solid 15-20 yards!!
I will even sign for the veteran minimum.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
overpaying for Nuk would be a mistake imo
he's missed 13 games the past two seasons and is on the wrong side of 30
but signing craig to punt would be the stuff of legend
RB Damien Harris signed a 1yr deal with the Bills
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I have a sneaking suspicion that the next time we make a playoff run it's going to feel a little like it did during the 85 season. I am not talking about the way it ended, but rather the idea of it being unexpected and bringing much joy to the fan base.
We will all buy our 'kill the Bills' shirts, and our 'don't sweat the Jets' hats, and get down to business.
I think we will need "Squish the Fish" shirts more than Bills or Jets shirts
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I still see Josh Allen as the real threat...
I don't, he wears down towards the end d of the season both physically and mentally, by no means do I think Tua is better but overall the Fins will have a much stronger team this year I believe
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I smell what you're cookin. 👍👍
Edited to change your to you're
Ruh-Roh! https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/04/04/bill-belichick-has-shopped-mac-jones-this-offseason/
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I am not surprised
Obviously there is a major breakdown Between Mac and Hoodies staff
Mac's value is low I'm thinking
I was listening to Gresh & Fauria and they think that this is nothing but clickbait and don't believe any of it. That if the Raiders were really interested they would have just made a deal for him rather than paying Jimmy G's 72M over 3 years where Mac is due to make roughly 9M in 2023-24.
The worst part about all of this is that the media covering this team will drag this drama out for as long as they can. It does kind of suck that his trade value is as low as it is because I'd say just cut bait and start over with Zappe until they can find a better option.
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I'm hoping that Zappe gets a real shot if Mac fails miserable, I'm not rooting for Mac to fail though
I'm not either but its turned into Days of Our Lives down there in Foxboro over the past year and doesn't look like its going to stop anytime soon. Bill needs his 18 wins to pass Shula then if the rumors are true Jerod Mayo would take over as HC that next offseason.
I just want to see them pick their guy then do everything they can to help him succeed,be it Mac,Zappe or whoever.
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Obviously we want what's best for our team so be it Mac or Zappe or whoever, I don't really care I just want it ironed out.
Last season was an utter disaster, I'm not looking forward to next season being a carbon copy of last year.
It's early, we got time and if Mac is definitely being shopped then the sooner the better so we can move forward
Belichick is going to be our coach for at least two more seasons.
I want to see if Mac can get back on the track he was on two seasons ago.
It sucks being relegated to the slums of the league, where all of the stories are drama and infighting.
Ah, the memories...
I am definitely not rooting against Mac, but my confidence in him is not high either. I would be willing to give him another chance with a real OC, but that would be it as far as I am concerned
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Well I'm with you but have zero faith in Bill Obrien to be honest, plus if Bill is not a fan of this kid then the drama is just going to get worse
Well that one year that BoB did run the Pats offense in 2011 they finished with the 10th (at the time) highest scoring offense in history but since then that 2011 team has fallen to 17th best all time. He's not Josh McDaniels but imo he's not far behind him when it comes to running an offense.
If we're being honest,he really doesn't need to pull any miracles here with this team just come in and do a steady job while helping to develop Mac. Where both Patricia & Judge had never run an offense before,by adding BoB its already been an improvement. BB stills needs to add another playmaker or two at the WR/TE positions though even if it means trading back in the first to add some additional picks.
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Sure I get the BoB doing well with Brady and Co but he turned Houston into an utter disaster, I just can't see him having the patience to deal with Mac while Hoodie is barking at him, like Mac could be putting BoB and Hoodie at odds and all this could add to the drama but who knows what's really going on.
As I said I don't expect a Playoff appearance especially if Rodgers comes to the Jets, the AFC East could be one of the toughest divisions in the NFL with the Pats looking up at everyone
But in Houston he was the head coach and in an entirely different role. Some coordinators that have been great here then went elsewhere and weren't that good as the HC...BoB,McDaniels,Patricia,Judge,Romeo Crennel,Charlie Weis. Running a certain unit is an entirely different beast than being responsible for everything.
I thing the BB barking at Mac stuff has been way overblown,in fact its really been the exact opposite where it came out that he didn't want to do that with Mac like he did with Brady. With Tom it was, he treats Brady like he does everyone else and Brady had no problem with that if it helped keep the team in line.
We know Belichick didn't like that Mac went for advice outside of the team but that all came out after the season ended so there never was a retaliation moment from BB towards Mac.
As for your last part,then so be it. This will be the fourth season removed from Brady and we knew all along that there wasn't going to be a quick flip back to being a top 1-3 contender in football. Last year was a setback but so far this offseason they've done a good job to this point at improving the coaching staff and roster.
IMO,the only real needs heading into the draft are a starting caliber Tackle,a talented WR and a rotational CB. One more pass catching TE and a late round punter would be nice too.
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After I posted I realized that BoB was the HC not the OC so maybe your right
As far as Hoodie vs Mac and their drama if thete id any lets hope it gets sorted out before training camp
If we see BoB call three straight screen passes then I'll grab my stake & pitchfork and we can head down to Foxboro. 😉
Eric
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I don't have much to add (for now, gotta do the dishes) other than...remember this classic moment? ...and I think that the fact that Mac was not Belichick's guy is important. Seems like it was a Kraft pick. 🤷 But I still have hope for a turnaround, if the Mac Attack can get back on track (and up off the clearance rack).
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I'm taking a break from the dishes. I tend to be overly slow with these sorts of tasks. Anyway, let me know if we are doing some sort of football related civil disobedience at Foxboro. Give me some advance notice so I can make my way North. Thank you in advance. 😜🏈 💣⚔️🚔👀🤬🤦🙁
That all depends on if our fearless leader lets everything go t!ts up again. 👿
Eric
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One of my main disappointments of the post Brady years has been the sloppiness of the team and seeming lack of situational preparation, etc. The fundamentals and discipline are what always buoyed the team. I imagine there has been a lack of effort and buy in. That happens when the team is not winning and the expectation is no longer SB or bust. Still, I also imagine that sone of this is top down, meaning as a direct result of changes to Belichick's attitude, or ability to control guys, or...
I think most of that has to do with losing Brady,who was like another OC on the field,then losing McDaniels. That was alot of stability at the top who had literally been in every situation possible on offense,then last season we had 2nd year Mac and two coaches in Patricia & Judge who had never been in that OC role before.
The offensive side of the ball didn't have that veteran type voice to turn too like it had in the past. James White was closest to possibly taking on that role but he retired early last season. Ideally we'd like to see Mac take the reins but between the team dropping the ball on his development in year two and getting injured only to return to then get benched first game made it hard for him to take on that leadership role.
Eric
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Deal 😄😄😄
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The Mac benching was wild.
Anyone remember the movie Brewster's Millions? 1985. John Candy. Richard Pryor. Looking it up just now, I was shocked to see how many versions were made throughout the 20th century prior to that one. Anyway, in the movie (as far as I recall) Richard Pryor has to spend 30 million to get 300 million. But there are rules. He can't just give it away, etc, and he can't tell people what he's doing. So as the movie goes on, he looks like he is just wasting away the money. He is forced to find ways to lose it. Anyway ...
Thinking about Belichick and the Pats reminded me of this. Imagine Belichick is tasked with giving away his legacy, and position of respect within the team. What decisions would he make? Bench Mac like he did? Bring in Patricia? Judge? Etc. Etc. And what is he doing it for? 🤷🏈🤬🤣