@Mindy9773 said:
I’m sorry I’m just repeating what the pcgs guy said, he said I could not use a voucher. I wanted to get the platinum package to grade these two plus the 5 Morgan’s and peace dollar.
Just So you know, If you want to use the voucher you need to send all four coins at the same time.
They won't have a new set to send me. I'd rather keep these, even if they will never realize top value (I collect, do not flip) I will still have them.
They won't have a new set to send me. I'd rather keep these, even if they will never realize top value (I collect, do not flip) I will still have them.
But you can buy one on the secondary market that you like
the eagles have landed. now, do I blindly send them in for grading or open the package and inspect first? it seems, by what I read on their website for submissions, that either way is acceptable as long as it doesn't pass the cutoff date for first strike on Oct. 13th. correct me if I'm wrong.
@Onedollarnohollar said:
the eagles have landed. now, do I blindly send them in for grading or open the package and inspect first? it seems, by what I read on their website for submissions, that either way is acceptable as long as it doesn't pass the cutoff date for first strike on Oct. 13th. correct me if I'm wrong.
Since we are still in the FS 'window', I suggest "open & inspect".
If they look good, then you can submit the coins (in capsules) prior to the cutoff date.
Edited to Add:
At this point in time, there is no reason to send these in "blind".
This is especially true as a couple of quality issues have been reported earlier in this thread. Example #1 Example #2
Just out of curiosity what does it cost to send in this set in total to get graded and get all the preferred designations? I've never submitted coins myself and would likely also submit my 2019 enhanced reverse proof eagle which is still sealed.
my order number was 1154XXXX at 1:09PM first day 9/13
1. Tuesday morning 9/28 shipping method changed to USPS
2. Wednesday morning 9/29 shipping label printed
3. Thursday afternoon 9/30 not at USPS yet
4. Friday morning 10/1 credit card charged
5. Friday afternoon 10/1 arrived at USPS expected delivery Tuesday 10/5
6. Saturday morning 10/2 Departed Nashville
7. Sunday morning 10/3 In Philadelphia could be delivered tomorrow
"I'll wait for delivery each day until 3:00" " Oh mailman please bring my Mint coins to me"
I will update the progress "As the Hamster Turns"
" If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. " The 1st Law of Opposition from The Firesign Theater
I believe part of the problem with getting items purchased from the mint shipped is the limit of 1 per household. With the 2 coin set that's 125,000 packages. It's great that more people have opportunity to purchase direct but it is going to take longer to get everything shipped.
Just out of curiosity what does it cost to send in this set in total to get graded and get all the preferred designations? I've never submitted coins myself and would likely also submit my 2019 enhanced reverse proof eagle which is still sealed.
@OLC said:
I believe part of the problem with getting items purchased from the mint shipped is the limit of 1 per household. With the 2 coin set that's 125,000 packages. It's great that more people have opportunity to purchase direct but it is going to take longer to get everything shipped.
@OLC said:
I believe part of the problem with getting items purchased from the mint shipped is the limit of 1 per household. With the 2 coin set that's 125,000 packages. It's great that more people have opportunity to purchase direct but it is going to take longer to get everything shipped.
One would think that the mint was equipped to handle it after all these years of being in existence. Even the Uncirculated Coin Set 2021released last week is being shown as processing for me (and been almost a month since the 2021 ASE Uncirculated Coins went on offer but they already had a December date for roll out to start with).
Logistical nightmare for sure at the mint's end plus it is going to get further delayed in the future because USPS has announced a slowing down
@MaineJim said: Just out of curiosity what does it cost to send in this set in total to get graded and get all the preferred designations? I've never submitted coins myself and would likely also submit my 2019 enhanced reverse proof eagle which is still sealed.
Jim
I did not price out all of the different possibilities, but here is one scenario ...
$??.?? - shipping coins to PCGS
$69.00 - Silver Membership (provides direct submission privileges; delete if you are already a 'Collectors Club' member);
$10.00 - Gold Shield ($5.00 x 2 coins; includes TrueView; delete if you do not want it);
$34.00 - Grading Fee ($17.00 x 2 coins; "modern value" service level with a max coin value of $300.00);
$36.00 - First Strike ($18.00 x 2 coins; delete if you do not want it);
$10.00 - Handling Fee (per submission form);
$22.00 - Return Shipping Fee (1-4 coins; $1 - $1,000 total declared value)
Note - You could select a higher service level for a shorter turnaround time (e.g. "regular"). The new "grading fee" would depend on the level you select.
I see...so getting the First Strike designation cost more than the actual grading fees? Am I reading that correctly? I guess it does guarantee the coins haven't been submitted multiple times looking for a better grade...not trying to get off topic here but was just considering it.
@MaineJim said: Just out of curiosity what does it cost to send in this set in total to get graded and get all the preferred designations? I've never submitted coins myself and would likely also submit my 2019 enhanced reverse proof eagle which is still sealed.
Jim
I did not price out all of the different possibilities, but here is one scenario ...
$??.?? - shipping coins to PCGS
$69.00 - Silver Membership (provides direct submission privileges; delete if you are already a 'Collectors Club' member);
$10.00 - Gold Shield ($5.00 x 2 coins; includes TrueView; delete if you do not want it);
$34.00 - Grading Fee ($17.00 x 2 coins; "modern value" service level with a max coin value of $300.00);
$36.00 - First Strike ($18.00 x 2 coins; delete if you do not want it);
$10.00 - Handling Fee (per submission form);
$22.00 - Return Shipping Fee (1-4 coins; $1 - $1,000 total declared value)
Note - You could select a higher service level for a shorter turnaround time (e.g. "regular"). The new "grading fee" would depend on the level you select.
@MaineJim said:
I see...so getting the First Strike designation cost more than the actual grading fees? Am I reading that correctly? I guess it does guarantee the coins haven't been submitted multiple times looking for a better grade...not trying to get off topic here but was just considering it.
Thanks,
Jim
In this particular case, yes.
I chose "modern value" for the service level (i.e., grading fee = $17.00/coin; max coin value = $300). In short, it was the lowest cost option for this set.
In instances where the coin is more valuable, or you decide to select a higher service level for speed, the grading fee will be greater than the FS designation. For example, a "regular" service level has a grading fee of $38.00/coin, and a max coin value of $2,500.00.
For example, a "regular" service level has a grading fee of $38.00/coin, and a max coin value of $2,500.00.
I've often wondered what the coin value is: if you get a 69 or worse, you could end up with bullion value, a 70 could be worth thousands. The one who submits COA number 00001 could be worth 10s of thousands. Undervalue your submission for cheaper service level or shipping and you under insure it. Get a lesser grade and you'll over insure it. Does CS call when submissions are CLEARLY declared under valued? Is the insurance coverage on return shipping underwritten by PCGS or the carrier?
[...] Does CS call when submissions are CLEARLY declared under valued? [...]
"If PCGS determines, in its sole discretion and at any point in the process, that the submitted Declared Value has been understated relative to the market value of the item, or the submission form provided by the customer has been incorrectly or incompletely filled out, PCGS reserves the right to adjust the PCGS Grading Fees (including any Shipping or Handling fees) accordingly. Customer acknowledges and agrees that PCGS may adjust/increase any fees as necessary without explicit customer notification." PCGS Grading Terms & Conditions (back of the submission form), Clause #6
Well all I can tell you is I just did it, sent in blind, express service level with first strike. Insured each coin for 200 as normally my luck sucks and I pull 69’s. Got lucky this time. They did not raise insurance for 70/70 will arrive here tomorrow
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@Mgarmy said:
Well all I can tell you is I just did it, sent in blind, express service level with first strike. Insured each coin for 200 as normally my luck sucks and I pull 69’s. Got lucky this time. They did not raise insurance for 70/70 will arrive here tomorrow
Congrats on the grades.
IMHO, PCGS recognizes the challenge of determining a coin value prior to grading. As such, they do not 'adjust/increase' fees unless there is a moderate-to-material discrepancy. At least that has been my experience. This approach also makes sense from a business perspective.
With respect to the return insurance, I assume that their liability in the event of 'damage/loss' would be limited to the declared value on the submission form (i.e., $200.00 x 2 = $400.00).
Yep that is what I am thinking. I shot the over on the 2019 S erp…insured for 70 and got a 69…they don’t lower the insurance either😂
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Goldmines- I was testing a theory, I think the more that they see of a set, the higher the bar becomes for that particular coin(s). I wanted to be one of the first couple dozen or so in and to do that required two day shipping all over the place and expedited grading. But you are dead on, expensive experiment.
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my order number was 1154XXXX at 1:09PM first day 9/13
1. Tuesday morning 9/28 shipping method changed to USPS
2. Wednesday morning 9/29 shipping label printed
3. Thursday afternoon 9/30 not at USPS yet
4. Friday morning 10/1 credit card charged
5. Friday afternoon 10/1 arrived at USPS expected delivery Tuesday 10/5
6. Saturday morning 10/2 Departed Nashville
7. Sunday morning 10/3 In Philadelphia could be delivered tomorrow
8. Monday 10/4 Out for Delivery today 21 days from order to delivery USPS 3 days from receipt to delivery
"I'll wait for delivery each day until 3:00" " Oh mailman please bring my Mint coins to me"
I will update the progress "As the Hamster Turns
" If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. " The 1st Law of Opposition from The Firesign Theater
Received coins on Friday. Opened today. One of the capsules was open and the coin was just sliding around in the box. I have never received a us mint coin in a capsule and the capsule was opened. The coins are solid(70?). The coin was not damaged. Sloppy packing. The shipping box had a custom piece of styrofoam that prevented the inner box from moving within the shipping box.
Tracking History
October 4, 2021
Pre-Shipment Info Sent to USPS, USPS Awaiting Item
The U.S. Postal Service was electronically notified by the shipper on October 4, 2021 to expect your package for mailing. This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date. Delivery status information will be provided if/when available.
Looks like mine is on its way
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Just So you know, If you want to use the voucher you need to send all four coins at the same time.
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Source
my order number was 1154XXXX at 1:09PM first day 9/13
1. Tuesday morning 9/28 shipping method changed to USPS
2. Wednesday morning 9/29 shipping label printed
3. Thursday afternoon 9/30 not at USPS yet
4. Friday morning 10/1 credit card charged
5. Friday afternoon 10/1 arrived at USPS expected delivery Tuesday 10/5
6. Saturday morning 10/2 Departed Nashville
"I'll wait for delivery each day until 3:00" " Oh mailman please bring my Mint coins to me"
I will update the progress "As the Hamster Turns"
my order is due to be delivered today. hopefully in good (perfect) condition.
Finally got my set in the mail. I wasn’t that big a fan of the type 2 reverse, but I’ll admit it looks much better in reverse proof.
My Jefferson nickel registry
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/alltimeset/188986
My classic commemorative registry
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/alltimeset/255614
They won't have a new set to send me. I'd rather keep these, even if they will never realize top value (I collect, do not flip) I will still have them.
But you can buy one on the secondary market that you like
yeah in person these are beautiful
Order 11504xxx finally marked as shipped. Almost three weeks for one of the earlier order numbers. But finally something other than Processing,
Just got updated that my order has left LaVergue,Tennessee and is “on time “ 😉
Absolutely thanks for the correction 👻
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You mean “on time”
the eagles have landed. now, do I blindly send them in for grading or open the package and inspect first? it seems, by what I read on their website for submissions, that either way is acceptable as long as it doesn't pass the cutoff date for first strike on Oct. 13th. correct me if I'm wrong.
Correct
Since we are still in the FS 'window', I suggest "open & inspect".
If they look good, then you can submit the coins (in capsules) prior to the cutoff date.
FS Reference
Edited to Add:
At this point in time, there is no reason to send these in "blind".
This is especially true as a couple of quality issues have been reported earlier in this thread.
Example #1
Example #2
Just out of curiosity what does it cost to send in this set in total to get graded and get all the preferred designations? I've never submitted coins myself and would likely also submit my 2019 enhanced reverse proof eagle which is still sealed.
Jim
my order number was 1154XXXX at 1:09PM first day 9/13
1. Tuesday morning 9/28 shipping method changed to USPS
2. Wednesday morning 9/29 shipping label printed
3. Thursday afternoon 9/30 not at USPS yet
4. Friday morning 10/1 credit card charged
5. Friday afternoon 10/1 arrived at USPS expected delivery Tuesday 10/5
6. Saturday morning 10/2 Departed Nashville
7. Sunday morning 10/3 In Philadelphia could be delivered tomorrow
"I'll wait for delivery each day until 3:00" " Oh mailman please bring my Mint coins to me"
I will update the progress "As the Hamster Turns"
I believe part of the problem with getting items purchased from the mint shipped is the limit of 1 per household. With the 2 coin set that's 125,000 packages. It's great that more people have opportunity to purchase direct but it is going to take longer to get everything shipped.
@MaineJim said:
https://www.pcgs.com/servicesandfees
That’s ok. It’s something.
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶
One would think that the mint was equipped to handle it after all these years of being in existence. Even the Uncirculated Coin Set 2021released last week is being shown as processing for me (and been almost a month since the 2021 ASE Uncirculated Coins went on offer but they already had a December date for roll out to start with).
Logistical nightmare for sure at the mint's end plus it is going to get further delayed in the future because USPS has announced a slowing down
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1064245/mail-delivery-slowdown-usps-to-slow-delivery-starting-october-1
Can only imagine the mayhem when the Morgans and Peace get ready to be shipped out
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/quarters/PCGS-2020-quarter-quest/album/247091
Oh my. This is good news 🙀😂😉
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I did not price out all of the different possibilities, but here is one scenario ...
$??.?? - shipping coins to PCGS
$69.00 - Silver Membership (provides direct submission privileges; delete if you are already a 'Collectors Club' member);
$10.00 - Gold Shield ($5.00 x 2 coins; includes TrueView; delete if you do not want it);
$34.00 - Grading Fee ($17.00 x 2 coins; "modern value" service level with a max coin value of $300.00);
$36.00 - First Strike ($18.00 x 2 coins; delete if you do not want it);
$10.00 - Handling Fee (per submission form);
$22.00 - Return Shipping Fee (1-4 coins; $1 - $1,000 total declared value)
Submission Form
Note - You could select a higher service level for a shorter turnaround time (e.g. "regular"). The new "grading fee" would depend on the level you select.
i haven't heard a word
Sorry. I think there’s a couple like yours. Check back through this thread a couple days. Good luck
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I see...so getting the First Strike designation cost more than the actual grading fees? Am I reading that correctly? I guess it does guarantee the coins haven't been submitted multiple times looking for a better grade...not trying to get off topic here but was just considering it.
Thanks,
Jim
USM11764XXX Ordered 9/15 Shipped
My first order after release date.
In this particular case, yes.
I chose "modern value" for the service level (i.e., grading fee = $17.00/coin; max coin value = $300). In short, it was the lowest cost option for this set.
In instances where the coin is more valuable, or you decide to select a higher service level for speed, the grading fee will be greater than the FS designation. For example, a "regular" service level has a grading fee of $38.00/coin, and a max coin value of $2,500.00.
For example, a "regular" service level has a grading fee of $38.00/coin, and a max coin value of $2,500.00.
I've often wondered what the coin value is: if you get a 69 or worse, you could end up with bullion value, a 70 could be worth thousands. The one who submits COA number 00001 could be worth 10s of thousands. Undervalue your submission for cheaper service level or shipping and you under insure it. Get a lesser grade and you'll over insure it. Does CS call when submissions are CLEARLY declared under valued? Is the insurance coverage on return shipping underwritten by PCGS or the carrier?
(l8-)>>
[...] Does CS call when submissions are CLEARLY declared under valued? [...]
"If PCGS determines, in its sole discretion and at any point in the process, that the submitted Declared Value has been understated relative to the market value of the item, or the submission form provided by the customer has been incorrectly or incompletely filled out, PCGS reserves the right to adjust the PCGS Grading Fees (including any Shipping or Handling fees) accordingly. Customer acknowledges and agrees that PCGS may adjust/increase any fees as necessary without explicit customer notification."
PCGS Grading Terms & Conditions (back of the submission form), Clause #6
Well all I can tell you is I just did it, sent in blind, express service level with first strike. Insured each coin for 200 as normally my luck sucks and I pull 69’s. Got lucky this time. They did not raise insurance for 70/70 will arrive here tomorrow
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Congrats on the grades.
IMHO, PCGS recognizes the challenge of determining a coin value prior to grading. As such, they do not 'adjust/increase' fees unless there is a moderate-to-material discrepancy. At least that has been my experience. This approach also makes sense from a business perspective.
With respect to the return insurance, I assume that their liability in the event of 'damage/loss' would be limited to the declared value on the submission form (i.e., $200.00 x 2 = $400.00).
They charged his checking account "Mastermoney Card" but no Email received yet.
Yep that is what I am thinking. I shot the over on the 2019 S erp…insured for 70 and got a 69…they don’t lower the insurance either😂
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Great results, but express at $65 each plus FS $18, plus shipping, handling, I think for a $175 set to pay over $200 to grade them you deserved 70's.
National Commemorative Medals of the U.S. Mint:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/medals-tokens/national-commemorative-medals-united-states-mint-1940-present/alltimeset/195526
These last few entries should start a New Thread for "How to order from PCGS".
Goldmines- I was testing a theory, I think the more that they see of a set, the higher the bar becomes for that particular coin(s). I wanted to be one of the first couple dozen or so in and to do that required two day shipping all over the place and expedited grading. But you are dead on, expensive experiment.
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my order number was 1154XXXX at 1:09PM first day 9/13
1. Tuesday morning 9/28 shipping method changed to USPS
2. Wednesday morning 9/29 shipping label printed
3. Thursday afternoon 9/30 not at USPS yet
4. Friday morning 10/1 credit card charged
5. Friday afternoon 10/1 arrived at USPS expected delivery Tuesday 10/5
6. Saturday morning 10/2 Departed Nashville
7. Sunday morning 10/3 In Philadelphia could be delivered tomorrow
8. Monday 10/4 Out for Delivery today 21 days from order to delivery USPS 3 days from receipt to delivery
"I'll wait for delivery each day until 3:00" " Oh mailman please bring my Mint coins to me"
I will update the progress "As the Hamster Turns
Mine out for delivery today.
Received coins on Friday. Opened today. One of the capsules was open and the coin was just sliding around in the box. I have never received a us mint coin in a capsule and the capsule was opened. The coins are solid(70?). The coin was not damaged. Sloppy packing. The shipping box had a custom piece of styrofoam that prevented the inner box from moving within the shipping box.
That sucks in so many ways. Glad the coins are ok. I would be very unhappy and then grateful. The mint is something else 👻
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Somewhat different packing used on my two sets...which were received a day apart.
One set was in the shipping box wrapped in brown craft paper, with no Styrofoam insert to prevent it from sliding around.
The second set was not wrapped in brown paper while there was a Styrofoam block inside the shipping box.
A little odd that there would be simultaneous packing variations.
Has anything flipped in the past few days?
My most recent arrival. Different packaging lots of tape. Same coins
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Mine are arriving today.. I was going to sell it sealed, but off to PCGS it goes tomorrow
Tracking History
October 4, 2021
Pre-Shipment Info Sent to USPS, USPS Awaiting Item
The U.S. Postal Service was electronically notified by the shipper on October 4, 2021 to expect your package for mailing. This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date. Delivery status information will be provided if/when available.
Looks like mine is on its way
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My first day order number 11543xxx and is still processing. 😖😖😖
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The eagles have landed
...But more importantly of a question IRT your packages
...as this is the 2nd pic you've posted, with the Lava Lamp in the background!
Does the Lava Lamp still work??
BST references available on request
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