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****Official Silver Eagle 2021 Silver Reverse Proof Two-Coin Designer Edition Order Thread #2****

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    OLCOLC Posts: 394 ✭✭✭

    W proof and gold designer set also.

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    CXDCXD Posts: 141 ✭✭✭

    In a time and place when we ALL support fairness and equality for the oppressed little guy or gal or other humanoids; the HHL = 1 is a global victory for all humankind🌎. 😢

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 32,723 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CXD said:
    In a time and place when we ALL support fairness and equality for the oppressed little guy or gal or other humanoids; the HHL = 1 is a global victory for all humankind🌎. 😢

    Unless you have 2 grandchildren. Or 3. Or 4.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 32,723 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mintymint said:
    wow i can't believe these hit $250 on ebay.

    As I said before, ASEs with mintages between 100k and 150k are with $125 to $150. That is the "correct" long term price. We just got there more quickly than usual.

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @CXD said:
    In a time and place when we ALL support fairness and equality for the oppressed little guy or gal or other humanoids; the HHL = 1 is a global victory for all humankind🌎. 😢

    Unless you have 2 grandchildren. Or 3. Or 4.

    are you trying to "fix" issues with sales distribution? it'd be so unlike you

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
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    GoldminersGoldminers Posts: 3,647 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @CXD said:
    In a time and place when we ALL support fairness and equality for the oppressed little guy or gal or other humanoids; the HHL = 1 is a global victory for all humankind🌎. 😢

    Unless you have 2 grandchildren. Or 3. Or 4.

    D.L. Hansen has over 50 grandchildren, and he collects quite a few coins for them ;)

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    Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Never seen that but there it is! HHL 1

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

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    CXDCXD Posts: 141 ✭✭✭

    HHL=1: I have only received two of my six, with a third in transit…..am I at risk of not getting the other three? OMG what a sh-t show😱

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    Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    All this goodness and the Morgan’s and peace dollar are coming 🙀😉

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

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    Weather11amWeather11am Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭

    So confused haha

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    CXDCXD Posts: 141 ✭✭✭
    edited October 6, 2021 6:29AM

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @CXD said:
    In a time and place when we ALL support fairness and equality for the oppressed little guy or gal or other humanoids; the HHL = 1 is a global victory for all humankind🌎. 😢

    Unless you have 2 grandchildren. Or 3. Or 4.

    The more I think about this global equity crap (I referenced above)....I kind of agree there should be a government HHL exemption (e.g. "Carve Out") for grandchildren or other connected peoples. :)

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 32,723 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 6, 2021 11:22AM

    @vulcanize said:

    @mintymint said:
    wow i can't believe these hit $250 on ebay.

    Hopefully the begining of the end for flipping. :naughty:

    That's still a $75 profit.

    The only way to end flipping is to either end returns or at least charge a restocking fee. There's no risk to buying what you can return for free if it doesn't work out.

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    HATTRICKHATTRICK Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Over 300 sets sold on Ebay since Monday. Somebody wants them . :o

    " If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. " The 1st Law of Opposition from The Firesign Theater
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    CXDCXD Posts: 141 ✭✭✭
    edited October 6, 2021 7:53AM

    I am not into the "boogy-man" theory regarding 'flippers". I think they are part of the transactional ecosystem and they do contribute to the early price discovery of the overly hyped product from the US Mint. :|

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    coinpalicecoinpalice Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭✭✭

    if you look at us mint products, 90 percent of the coins fall back down to around issue price or below within 2 to 6 months, the 2001 buffalo series is one of the few that held the value

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 32,723 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinpalice said:
    if you look at us mint products, 90 percent of the coins fall back down to around issue price or below within 2 to 6 months, the 2001 buffalo series is one of the few that held the value

    You're lucky if they just fall down to the issue price.

    Patience rewards the modern Mint collector.

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    vulcanizevulcanize Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @coinpalice said:
    if you look at us mint products, 90 percent of the coins fall back down to around issue price or below within 2 to 6 months, the 2001 buffalo series is one of the few that held the value

    You're lucky if they just fall down to the issue price.

    Patience rewards the modern Mint collector.

    I totally agree. Waited for quite a while before picking up the gold mercury and SLQ commemmoratives issued in 2016 :)

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    HATTRICKHATTRICK Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 6, 2021 1:50PM

    In the future you may not have to wait. New coins may be issued to demand to allow all who want one to get one at mint issue price. >:)

    " If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. " The 1st Law of Opposition from The Firesign Theater
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    meluaufeetmeluaufeet Posts: 758 ✭✭✭

    Shipped: USM11777XXX Date Order: 09/25/2021

    They must be close to finish shipping out ALL orders.

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    OnastoneOnastone Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭✭✭

    When did they restore HHLs??? Why would they and will this be a new standard? Or is it just a programming blip?

    Mine finally switched from processing to shipped! Now to wait on the delivery service.

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    HHL test….

    Friday 8th @ high noon

    Check the HHL on the gold uncirculated on sale tomorrow at noon.

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
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    OKCCOKCC Posts: 522 ✭✭✭
    edited October 6, 2021 5:49PM

    What is required to get "Designer Edition" on the PCGS label. I see some labels where that is omitted. Aren't all the 2021 Reverse Proof Silver Eagles from the Designer set automatically? I called PCGS, but she didn't really know.

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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 16,957 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just hammered.....2 other eBay NGC graded auctions within $15.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/284475100086

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    MetroDMetroD Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OKCC said:
    What is required to get "Designer Edition" on the PCGS label. I see some labels where that is omitted. Aren't all the 2021 Reverse Proof Silver Eagles from the Designer set automatically? I called PCGS, but she didn't really know.

    All of the RP ASE come from the "designer edition" (i.e., Mint 21XJ).

    Here are the current options for label designations from 'PCGS Number Lookup':

    Source

    Did you see something that was not on the list?

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    vulcanizevulcanize Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Was initially thinking of sending them in for grading and now decided against it.

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    RichRRichR Posts: 3,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 6, 2021 7:54PM

    I'll ask a potentially stupid question...but please humor me...

    If the HHL limit is back to 1...is this retroactive to Day 1 sales...or simply to 1 of this item moving forward regardless? Because I have two sets already delivered and 2 more sitting in my cart, which would now seem to be an impossibility.

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    RichRRichR Posts: 3,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 6, 2021 7:59PM

    Update...just a few minutes ago...right before my eyes when I logged in to my Mint account...the number of sets in my bag changed from 2 to 1.

    Does anyone else believe that the HHL limit being restored might indicate that some additional sets may be about to drop?

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    Mindy9773Mindy9773 Posts: 160 ✭✭✭

    Just received an email from pcgs problem with order what could this be?

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    MetroDMetroD Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 7, 2021 4:13AM

    @Mindy9773 said:
    Just received an email from pcgs problem with order what could this be?

    :(

    After speaking with PCGS, please consider sharing specifics about your issue here.

    Perhaps it will help someone else that has not yet submitted.

    Edited to Add:
    IF the "problem" is related to a fee for the two-coin holder, I humbly suggest that you 'stick to your guns'.
    It is NOT unreasonable for you to expect PCGS to honor a 'policy/price' that you can find on their website.
    Link

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    MgarmyMgarmy Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Mindy- what did you submit with specifics

    For example, I submitted 2 w’s and an S all in boxes unopened for first strike. Got that email from them, called and found out that even in the original box’s unopened that the w’s were past date for first strike.

    100% positive transactions with SurfinxHI, bigole, 1madman, collectorcoins, proofmorgan, Luke Marshall, silver pop, golden egg, point five zero,coin22lover, alohagary, blaircountycoin,joebb21

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    donzmedonzme Posts: 161 ✭✭✭

    @meluaufeet said:
    Shipped: USM11777XXX Date Order: 09/25/2021

    They must be close to finish shipping out ALL orders.

    USM11517XXX is still processing. 🙁

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    MgarmyMgarmy Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MetroD said:

    @Mindy9773 said:
    Just received an email from pcgs problem with order what could this be?

    :(

    After speaking with PCGS, please consider sharing specifics about your issue here.

    Perhaps it will help someone else that has not yet submitted.

    Edited to Add:
    IF the "problem" is related to a fee for the two-coin holder, I humbly suggest that you 'stick to your guns'.
    It is NOT unreasonable for you to expect PCGS to honor a 'policy/price' that you can find on their website.
    Link

    I was not charged an additional fee

    100% positive transactions with SurfinxHI, bigole, 1madman, collectorcoins, proofmorgan, Luke Marshall, silver pop, golden egg, point five zero,coin22lover, alohagary, blaircountycoin,joebb21

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    MetroDMetroD Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Mgarmy said:
    I was not charged an additional fee

    Thanks for taking the time to post this information. I appreciate it.

    Congrats again on your grades. :)

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    MgarmyMgarmy Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not worries man. Good luck 🍀 if you submit

    100% positive transactions with SurfinxHI, bigole, 1madman, collectorcoins, proofmorgan, Luke Marshall, silver pop, golden egg, point five zero,coin22lover, alohagary, blaircountycoin,joebb21

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    MetroDMetroD Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you, sir. 🤞

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    Mindy9773Mindy9773 Posts: 160 ✭✭✭

    Ok I called them. Somehow someone missed that I had checked the box for silver membership and included the fees to become a member.

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    RichRRichR Posts: 3,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 7, 2021 3:19PM

    To anyone's knowledge has a HHL limit been retroactively reimposed...and nearly a month after the initial sale, no less?

    Is this because the resale value of the set has started to rise on secondary markets? And does this imply that the Mint has some remaining sets still to be released?

    I find this odd...even by odd Mint standards.

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    Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 7, 2021 3:39PM

    Yes they reset the HHL. Don’t know why. But they are back. This morning someone was denied a burnished ase because the HHL of 3. reappeared. Similar but not exactly. It’s something. We’ll see if others post on disappearance or changes

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

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    GiveMeProofGiveMeProof Posts: 569 ✭✭✭✭

    Got my second set today. Seeing that we have until the 13th for First Strike I think I will open them. :)

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    coinpalicecoinpalice Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 16,957 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 8, 2021 3:53PM

    I'll never under stand some of these eBay sellers of modern Mint coinage. This guy is either an idiot or is happy with his 7% margin....I choose the former.

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    vulcanizevulcanize Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Goldbully said:

    I'll never under stand some of these eBay sellers of modern Mint coinage. This guy is either an idiot or is happy with his 7% margin....I choose the former.

    And on the eBay listing it is claimed that 10% of the sale of this item will benefit Feeding America - so now my math is totally befuddled about his final profits.

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    Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sounds like someone had a CC payment to make. Had to sell

    🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 32,723 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Goldbully said:

    I'll never under stand some of these eBay sellers of modern Mint coinage. This guy is either an idiot or is happy with his 7% margin....I choose the former.

    With all due respect, expecting more than a 10% net margin on coins isn't reasonable in most cases. Coins are low margin by their nature.

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    coinpalicecoinpalice Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @vulcanize said:

    @Goldbully said:

    I'll never under stand some of these eBay sellers of modern Mint coinage. This guy is either an idiot or is happy with his 7% margin....I choose the former.

    And on the eBay listing it is claimed that 10% of the sale of this item will benefit Feeding America - so now my math is totally befuddled about his final profits.

    good catch, the puts him at a 9.50 loss on the sale, and that is only if he got free shipping from the mint

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    ONaRollONaRoll Posts: 10 ✭✭

    Watching out of curiosity. Seller located in Sri Lanka and Shipping from Shenzhen, China

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/234218190504?hash=item36887df6a8:g:m3EAAOSwq39hQ~l1

    Thanks to John Nanney's Discovery I stumbled upon this Great Forum and learned I had received the 2008-W ASE with 2007 Reverse from the U.S. Mint.
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    coinpalicecoinpalice Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭✭✭

    wow, that seller is selling 6 gold coins in another auction and they are all gold plated and fake, be careful. the highest sale he has had is 6 dollars :#

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    GiveMeProofGiveMeProof Posts: 569 ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 10, 2021 5:07PM

    @GiveMeProof said:
    Got my second set today. Seeing that we have until the 13th for First Strike I think I will open them. :)

    Both sets look really good. I need a memory refresh. I filled out and printed the pdf submission forms. Step 7 (Submit) has me confused. Is there a "Submit" button? That is the only step in the 1-7 steps on the form that doesn't show complete. Did I miss something?

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    djmdjm Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 10, 2021 8:45PM

    @GiveMeProof said:

    @GiveMeProof said:
    Got my second set today. Seeing that we have until the 13th for First Strike I think I will open them. :)

    Both sets look really good. I need a memory refresh. I filled out and printed the pdf submission forms. Step 7 (Submit) has me confused. Is there a "Submit" button? That is the only step in the 1-7 steps on the form that doesn't show complete. Did I miss something?

    The 7 step form is NOT the PDF form it is the online submission . There is a submit button. Did you do the check box that you agree with the terms of service. If the order processed correctly you will get an order received e-mail.

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