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  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,499 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If your posts "disappear" when you click post I have gotten into the habit of coping & pasting it before I submit then if it does "disappear" I simply paste it back into the message,,,,,,, saves a lot of frustration.

    GrandAm :)
  • DeutscherGeistDeutscherGeist Posts: 2,990 ✭✭✭✭

    I have not paid so much attention to these coins, but appreciate the excitement surrounding them. I do like the idea of a 100th anniversary coin for both the Morgan and Peace dollars. I ordered the Philadelphia version.

    As the title suggests, are these coins really going for above their nominal purchase price? I purchased them from the first day of availability and it was not hard to do. No website crashed and there was no sellout in the first few minutes. It was easy to order. A friend of mine passed on them because the ordering process was so easy, he felt these coins are not going anywhere and could buy them cheaper later. Perhaps he might be right, much later. I just wanted to get mine fresh from the mint.

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  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 15, 2021 4:40AM

    JM. I live a science experiment. What are you talking about. I am hands on Not a come and go grandpa Full time , think single parent . When’s the last time you were at a skate park or rec center ? Hang around and see what the kids are doing and talking about. I am fairly educated and am not anti science. Mostly your correct on a number of things but because you are speculating. Why not a little positivity. Again, I am sorry you don’t think the kids today are growing up differently than you or I. Carry on my brother. 🙏

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,775 ✭✭✭✭✭

    didn't we buy theses KNOWING that shipping would not begin until Oct.?

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • coinpalicecoinpalice Posts: 2,453 ✭✭✭✭✭

    well, some people bought in at 4,495, at $2895 you have a chance of coming fairly close to breaking even someday ;)

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 33,921 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @HoneyMarket said:

    @MsMorrisine said:
    if you don't know what a CC O D S P refer to in a Morgan thread, then you must be solely a flipper.

    How DARE you call me a Flipper! Oh Yeah, I am! B)

    Yes, I'll admit...I started here as a Flipper but ya know what - I've actually started collecting coins as well!

    I've picked up a few coins over that past few months at some local estate auctions.
    Heck, I even almost went to the Richmond show, as I was down in that area at the time!

    As to your comment about not knowing.
    My comment about the different Morgan's, with their respective privy marks, was more geared to the fact that other Morgan's (with the Privy marks) have their own threads. ...yet this thread seems geared toward the Peace and Morgan (without the privy mark) coins.

    Then again, looking at how some see this thread, I can now see that this is also the "catch-all be-all Morgan thread".

    On last comment about flipping...Ain't everyone here a flipper at some point?
    Is there that many here who've never sold a coin - they've only been buyers?

    Buying a coin and selling it 25 years later is not flipping. Buying a coin for the sole purpose of selling it is flipping.

    I'd also suggest that flipping an occasional coin while collecting isn't the same as predominantly flipping.

  • Golden1Golden1 Posts: 208 ✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    I'd also suggest that flipping an occasional coin while collecting isn't the same as predominantly flipping.

    I flip to lower the cost of what I keep.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 33,921 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Golden1 said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    I'd also suggest that flipping an occasional coin while collecting isn't the same as predominantly flipping.

    I flip to lower the cost of what I keep.

    A lot of people do, including myself. I have no trouble with flipping. I just don't think you would consider yourself a "flipper" rather than a "collector", would you?

  • MilesWaitsMilesWaits Posts: 5,338 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Semantics.
    Love the one your with.

    Now riding the swell in PM's and surf.
  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 5,801 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Metal said:
    @cheezhed said:

    I got shut out of the Peace release if any forum member has an extra they could part with I would be grateful.

    I'm going to have six, but I missed out on the CC and O. I'd be up for a bit of horse-trading.
    I intended to overnight them all to our host. Do you want them raw or graded?

    Unfortunately I only have one of each of the O and CC. Raw is perfect.

    Many happy BST transactions
  • Golden1Golden1 Posts: 208 ✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Golden1 said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    I'd also suggest that flipping an occasional coin while collecting isn't the same as predominantly flipping.

    I flip to lower the cost of what I keep.

    A lot of people do, including myself. I have no trouble with flipping. I just don't think you would consider yourself a "flipper" rather than a "collector", would you?

    These last purchases I was hoping to make a few bucks on the reverse proof sets to lower the cost of the 3 Peace Dollars I plan to keep. Didn't work out that way, so I'll keep both and maybe sell the proofs later.

  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,232 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's now October 15th, isn't it about time the Mint starts shipping these coins?

    And I quote, Product shipments will begin in October

    Does that mean the week of the 18th or does it mean the week of the 25th?

    Or..........................does it mean, they will 'hopefully' ship in October.

    Anyone receive theirs or been notified of shipping?

    Mine still say backorder.

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @djm said:
    From what I was told... The Bulk Dealers pick their coins up in Memphis today. It sounded like they got all 6 coins today. I was also told that the coins ordered by non Bulk Dealers will begin shipping on Tuesday or Wednesday.

    This is the best post I’ve seen

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  • Samuel8Samuel8 Posts: 379 ✭✭✭

    @djm said:
    From what I was told... The Bulk Dealers pick their coins up in Memphis today. It sounded like they got all 6 coins today. I was also told that the coins ordered by non Bulk Dealers will begin shipping on Tuesday or Wednesday.

    source?

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 15, 2021 10:11AM

    djm. Forum member and source of inside info extraordinar! 🤠pg 25 of this thread towards the bottom.

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  • HoneyMarketHoneyMarket Posts: 806 ✭✭✭✭

    @Jzyskowski1 said:
    djm. Forum member and source of inside info extraordinar! 🤠pg 25 of this thread towards the bottom.

    For those of us "not in the know" as to how reliable djm is...how reliable is his information based upon past performance?

    @djm said:
    From what I was told... The Bulk Dealers pick their coins up in Memphis today. It sounded like they got all 6 coins today. I was also told that the coins ordered by non Bulk Dealers will begin shipping on Tuesday or Wednesday.

    --

    For the unknowing (I.e. people like Me! o:) ), and reading the above statement from djm...it appears that he (or she - don't know - don't want to offend) has some sort of insider knowledge/info as you eluded to.

    Is that insider info from some contractor who works in Memphis, a Bulk Dealer friend, a Mint Employee friend, an actual Mint employee, etc??? Actually, I don't really want to know - especially if djm is the provider of reliable info based upon past results.

    If the consensus of those around these parts is that what djm writes is very reliable info...that's good to know!

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  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    He’s been here for 19 years. Can’t speak for others but he’s credible with me. Getting a consensus on anything around here is tuff😉

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  • Samuel8Samuel8 Posts: 379 ✭✭✭

    @Jzyskowski1 said:
    He’s been here for 19 years. Can’t speak for others but he’s credible with me. Getting a consensus on anything around here is tuff😉

    Then I need to unlock my card.
    Anyway, I have a payment-method-blank Morgan O order, probably have to call them.

  • HoneyMarketHoneyMarket Posts: 806 ✭✭✭✭

    @Samuel8 said:
    Anyway, I have a payment-method-blank Morgan O order, probably have to call them.

    Good Luck in speaking with the Mint about missing payment information on a backordered item.

    I did online chat with them and they told me that they don't know why my payment info is missing from one of my orders but is showing in all of my other pending/backordered items.

    I asked if I could re-add it and they told me no.

    I asked what would happen when it comes time to process/ship and I was told that they would reach out to me for payment info at that time.

    Somehow I just don't believe them as they had no clue as to why the payment info was missing nor did they say they had ever seen that before...but yet they seemed sure that someone would call me (when at times it takes hours for someone to reach a Mint CSR).

    Call me skeptical!

    o:)


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  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 15, 2021 11:17AM

    The word is that they will email you if there’s a question. When I spent the afternoon (just kidding) on the phone with the mint, they pulled my orders up and told me that my info was showing on their side. I too, have no payment info on my order page ,for the CC Morgan’s. We’ll get through this 👍🏼
    He mentioned next week but I’m prepared for Monday on.

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  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting. I just checked my enrollment for AI reverse proof set. No CC payment showing. No payment nada🤔

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  • OLCOLC Posts: 397 ✭✭✭

    @Jzyskowski1 said:
    Interesting. I just checked my enrollment for AI reverse proof set. No CC payment showing. No payment nada🤔

    The enrollments never have the payment method showing until they go in process. FYI

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 15, 2021 5:03PM

    Thanks. It’s my first time 😂. Sorry I did have the S ase proof on enrollment. I never checked out the order before. All this Morgan and Peace stuff

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  • TxCollectorTxCollector Posts: 417 ✭✭✭✭

    Maybe a dumb question but is there really any difference between flippers and coin dealers besides the fact that dealers do it for a living and it’s just side income for flippers? Hope that everyone gets their coins soon. It feels like a lifetime since the first order in May.

  • HoneyMarketHoneyMarket Posts: 806 ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 15, 2021 4:08PM

    Wrong thread... Got my S's mixed up...

    o:)

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,984 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Are you yanking chains now?

    The 2012 S you mention is an ASE not a peace or morgan

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  • HATTRICKHATTRICK Posts: 2,145 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 15, 2021 4:59PM

    @fathom said:

    @HATTRICK said:
    It is clear whoever at the mint thought up this presale idea did not think it all the way through. No consideration was given to the credit card issues that would arise and no plan was in place to handle them.

    Conspiracy theory alert !!

    Did Ryder quit because he saw this coming or was he fired because he allowed it to happen ?? :o

    Calm down they are doing it this way so they don't get their butt kicked.

    Keep your credit cards clean and sorted and there won't be a problem.

    Presale will keep the production down and keep perceived value.

    High demand items in other markets are sold this way all the time. If you don't like it this way you can cancel your orders and we can have a shot at 'em. :p

    The Ryder thing is a joke as most here for many years know I do on a regular basis. As far as comments about the planning for the credit cards the backup is direct conversations with mint officials and many dozens of postings by forum members of their experiences with mint customer reps. My 22 coins were sold to another forum member weeks ago.

    Inquiring minds want to know what is the basis of your trolling comments? :#

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  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 5,801 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Mine are all back ordered still.

    Many happy BST transactions
  • Samuel8Samuel8 Posts: 379 ✭✭✭

    @Jzyskowski1 said:
    Interesting. I just checked my enrollment for AI reverse proof set. No CC payment showing. No payment nada🤔

    Isn't the payment method for enrollment on a different tab or link?

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Samuel8 said:

    @Jzyskowski1 said:
    Interesting. I just checked my enrollment for AI reverse proof set. No CC payment showing. No payment nada🤔

    Isn't the payment method for enrollment on a different tab or link?

    I have no idea. I am just beginning to explore enrollment. Did the ase S and that was easy. My order shows no payment info on 2 enrollments I just set up.

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  • edgaredgar Posts: 886 ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 17, 2021 7:44AM

    @Jzyskowski1 said:

    @Samuel8 said:

    @Jzyskowski1 said:
    Interesting. I just checked my enrollment for AI reverse proof set. No CC payment showing. No payment nada🤔

    Isn't the payment method for enrollment on a different tab or link?

    Log into mint account, my account, my product enrollments, select an upcoming item (TBD), select address and billing tab.

    under payment options,
    when you add a payment method, it asks if you want it to be default enrollment payment method.

    I dont think there is an enrollment for AI reverse proof set .

    (l8-)>>

  • rooksmithrooksmith Posts: 971 ✭✭✭✭

    Those privy marks (fake mint marks) are overrated in terms of collectability. Just my opinion.

    Key Dates have lasting value

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  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @rooksmith said:
    Those privy marks (fake mint marks) are overrated in terms of collectability. Just my opinion.

    Key Dates have lasting value

    I’d like to think that’s true. CC Morgan’s are saying otherwise. 4x cost is pretty good and that’s the lower end of eBay

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  • kimber45ACPkimber45ACP Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭

    When I called the mint to ask about my order, she said "Is that order with the CC and O privacy marks?"

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Did you not miss a beat and reply “why yes it is “ 🙀

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  • Samuel8Samuel8 Posts: 379 ✭✭✭

    @kimber45ACP said:
    When I called the mint to ask about my order, she said "Is that order with the CC and O privacy marks?"

    What did she say about the order?

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I know I know but this is new. Just saying. In hand.

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  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I mentioned this because Mike might be one of the advance release guys or know someone. Advance release comes like 5 days early or so. It got me thinking Tuesday or Wednesday. We’ll see.

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  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 17, 2021 1:10PM

    Here’s, I guess, a price point That sure looks like OGP

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  • Samuel8Samuel8 Posts: 379 ✭✭✭

    @Jzyskowski1 said:
    I mentioned this because Mike might be one of the advance release guys or know someone. Advance release comes like 5 days early or so. It got me thinking Tuesday or Wednesday. We’ll see.

    You see Mike sells on TV now?

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 17, 2021 2:01PM

    This is from his eBay site. Always lower than his info ‘mercal. Well mostly. I have got some very good deals. It seems an indicator of movement as it’s showing the packaging and inhand as well. Anyway hope this is what I’ve been waiting for 😉

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  • Samuel8Samuel8 Posts: 379 ✭✭✭

    @Jzyskowski1 said:
    This is from his eBay site. Always lower than his info ‘mercal. Well mostly. I have got some very good deals. It seems an indicator of movement as it’s showing the packaging and inhand as well. Anyway hope this is what I’ve been waiting for 😉

    He is the only "in-hand" seller, right?
    Why he does not use real photos?

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 17, 2021 2:31PM

    I have no idea. So far he’s the first I’ve found

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  • seduloussedulous Posts: 3,218 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @rooksmith said:
    Those privy marks (fake mint marks) are overrated in terms of collectability. Just my opinion.

    Key Dates have lasting value

    I tend to agree but only that the O and CC's were not actually minted at New Orleans and Carson City... so with that point, what is the point? goes through my mind.

    A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.

  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The CC is currently $350-400 on eBay. The rest $100 less. The O is $50 less. They are very popular nonetheless 😉

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,984 ✭✭✭✭✭

    is tv mike still on tv?

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • Jzyskowski1Jzyskowski1 Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    YUPPERS and his eBay is very active 😉

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  • ebizgobroebizgobro Posts: 595 ✭✭✭

    My credit card was just pinged for an order of 3 silver dollars. I don't know which one.
    Order history doesn't show any movement yet but it may be just a few days away.
    I'm getting ready for the shipping circus.

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