Looking for some advice so here is the scenario: I ordered the full allotment of Morgan CCs and Morgan Os back in May. In July my Visa card company changed banks and issued new cards complete with new numbers. Now these previous orders will not be able to be processed. Has anyone had any experience with this situation in the past? I personally see no hope as a call to the Mint resulted in the statement that "we cant update credit card numbers on previously placed orders". They can update expiration dates only. Losing the orders would be bad so if anyone has any good advice, I would appreciate it.
I have a similar issue as DrJaycee. I have my orders in back order. I just learned that my CC was compromised and they closed that number. In a week or so I should be getting a new card in the mail. Same bank, different numbers. I will call the mint after I get my new card.
What has been the results for those you you in this similar situation? Am I SOL?
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Long story short I checked on my Morgan order today (D & S). the automated system indicated it was being prepped for shipping TODAY. Oddly specific?
the actual status hasn't changed from Backorder. I've never used the phone automated system.
Go ahead but the last time I did and posted my conversation. Needless to say I took a beating. Crawled off into my corner, put the hat on and mooped . Well after a couple dozen interactions with the Mint. I have learned my lesson. I was online with the mint, checking on my Carson cities when they offered a human. I was told by the online thingy that guess what? My Carson city had shipped. Long and short. Watch your order list and give it time to update. 🙀😉
@Hyperion said:
Long story short I checked on my Morgan order today (D & S). the automated system indicated it was being prepped for shipping TODAY. Oddly specific?
the actual status hasn't changed from Backorder. I've never used the phone automated system. Dare I hope?!?!?!?
the telephone system will either tell you it will "ship today" or "will ship tomorrow"
also in the other mentions of the preorder periods it just says " available for sale during that period "
I have not seen anywhere where it says " ONLY available during that period.
It's like when the Princess Beanie Baby first came out and everybody thought there would only be 12 for each store, period.
The promotion said " For the first month there would only be 12 per store." People did not understand that after the first month there would be millions of them.
It is easy to read things into a statement that are not there. At least we know the mintage limit is supposed to be 175,000
" If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. " The 1st Law of Opposition from The Firesign Theater
they are under on the CC, O and Peace, but I'd expect them to be under.
the offer for peace is not so bad, but they obviously don't have the intel we have.
they are buying the others at about market. it doesn't make up for the short fall on the CC and O though.
trading is thin on the 6 coin sets. you could make out better with a higher BIN on a 6 coin, but it appears to me that there are likely more people missing singles out of the 6.
Please note their offer is for opened boxes and therefore is the low end for 69 or less graded coins. At least it sets the bottom for raw opened boxes. Current pricing for sealed boxes should be 75% to 100% higher.
It is likely prices for 70 graded six coin sets to be $ 3,000 +
These will be a real winner when they go live. People holding out for lower prices have missed the boat.
" If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. " The 1st Law of Opposition from The Firesign Theater
I think many collectors will want 1x Morgan and 1x Peace - this type set will be more popular and affordable to the average collector than a complete set - especially if the 6 coin set is $1,000+++.
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after much outrage, and pitchforks and torches I release the new stat:
6 coin sets:
five listings
BINs $1410 - $1700
true auctions $1700 & $1853
MsMorrisine,
Thanks for the updates. Your research and updates are great and very much appreciated by many here on the Forum.
Sounds kind of harsh broad brushing a lot of people there.
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What are the ebay pre-sale policies that are being violated?
I am not well-versed on this subject, if anyone is aware please educate.
Looking for some advice so here is the scenario: I ordered the full allotment of Morgan CCs and Morgan Os back in May. In July my Visa card company changed banks and issued new cards complete with new numbers. Now these previous orders will not be able to be processed. Has anyone had any experience with this situation in the past? I personally see no hope as a call to the Mint resulted in the statement that "we cant update credit card numbers on previously placed orders". They can update expiration dates only. Losing the orders would be bad so if anyone has any good advice, I would appreciate it.
Oh boy 🤔
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I have a similar issue as DrJaycee. I have my orders in back order. I just learned that my CC was compromised and they closed that number. In a week or so I should be getting a new card in the mail. Same bank, different numbers. I will call the mint after I get my new card.
What has been the results for those you you in this similar situation? Am I SOL?
Pretty sure the policy was you had to ship within 30 days of the pre-sale.
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12 listings
BINs $1450 - $1711
true auctions $1680
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CC & O
about 125 listings
28 "new listing"
45 listings ending in under 10 days
CC - $460ish with a few BINs higher - trend is flatish
O - $300 - $365 with few BINs only a couple higher - trend is flat to downward
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D & S
about 150 listings
true auctions $160 - $175 - continued firming around higher end of range
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P Morgan and Peace
P Morgan - seventeen listings
Peace - about twenty listings
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P Morgan - around $127 - towards $180 - true auctions all over the place - estimate average ~ $150-$160
Peace - $215 - $225 - up trend continues
must edit that recent stats post - sent it without changing most of it
Long story short I checked on my Morgan order today (D & S). the automated system indicated it was being prepped for shipping TODAY. Oddly specific?
the actual status hasn't changed from Backorder. I've never used the phone automated system. Dare I hope?!?!?!?
edits completed above
Btw, this only makes me more angry I have a shopping card with a CC And O in it
Freaking blocked by the crappy mint website
🚩Head to the thread “The 2021 CC Morgan is beautiful…pictures “
Wow this not your 90’s comm. It’s beautiful!🤓🙀.
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Go ahead but the last time I did and posted my conversation. Needless to say I took a beating. Crawled off into my corner, put the hat on and mooped . Well after a couple dozen interactions with the Mint. I have learned my lesson. I was online with the mint, checking on my Carson cities when they offered a human. I was told by the online thingy that guess what? My Carson city had shipped. Long and short. Watch your order list and give it time to update. 🙀😉
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶
the telephone system will either tell you it will "ship today" or "will ship tomorrow"
the telephone status is useless.
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CC & O
about 150 listings
20 "new listing"
46 listings ending in under 7 days
CC - $415 - $450 - trend is slightly downward
O - $300 - $350 - trend is downward
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D & S
about 150 listings
true auctions $150 - $175 and a few above that - flat
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P Morgan and Peace
P Morgan - about fifteen listings
Peace - about fifteen listings
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P Morgan - around $120 - towards $175 - flat
Peace - $215 - $250(a few) - trend flat but watching recents for any move up
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6 coin sets
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14 listings
BINs $1500 - $1750
true auctions $1281, $1460, $1675
ooops
did it again
info above incompletely modified
working on it still
this past weeks data updated now
Enough left to have a clearance sale.
Didn’t they have a 2week sales period. If so that explains why you don’t see them at 7:30 coffee club
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I’m guessing they will strike the limit with sales figures like this & reopen ordering
This doesn’t help because of the line or until inventory depleted
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also in the other mentions of the preorder periods it just says " available for sale during that period "
I have not seen anywhere where it says " ONLY available during that period.
It's like when the Princess Beanie Baby first came out and everybody thought there would only be 12 for each store, period.
The promotion said " For the first month there would only be 12 per store." People did not understand that after the first month there would be millions of them.
It is easy to read things into a statement that are not there. At least we know the mintage limit is supposed to be 175,000
The pre-order "window" was for approximately 2 weeks, or until inventory was depleted.
Each of the 3 double releases went "unavailable" on their respective release dates.
5/24/21
8/3/21
8/10/21
inventory is not yet depleted
past experience shows that "The mint is like a box of chocolates"
Besides, currently showing remind me and not sold out.
Just got the pinehurst offer so we must be getting close. $1000 for all6. $180 for CC $160 for other Morgan’s and peace dollar
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Weak offer on the CCs.
Yah and not much respect for the peace dollar
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they are under on the CC, O and Peace, but I'd expect them to be under.
the offer for peace is not so bad, but they obviously don't have the intel we have.
they are buying the others at about market. it doesn't make up for the short fall on the CC and O though.
trading is thin on the 6 coin sets. you could make out better with a higher BIN on a 6 coin, but it appears to me that there are likely more people missing singles out of the 6.
What a low ball hoot!!
And yes the “intel” is mostly due to your diligence in keeping track of trending sales, Ms.
Thank you.
I emailed them offering 'em my sets at 1500 ea.
"It's like God, Family, Country, except Sticker, Plastic, Coin."
I love it. Let us k ow what they say.
1500 is more like retail
They won’t offer that
Lots of room between 1000 and 1500…
$160 isn't terrible for the D or S Morgans imho.
What is the rush to sell? Do y’all believe that somehow they’re just going to tank?
Please note their offer is for opened boxes and therefore is the low end for 69 or less graded coins. At least it sets the bottom for raw opened boxes. Current pricing for sealed boxes should be 75% to 100% higher.
It is likely prices for 70 graded six coin sets to be $ 3,000 +
These will be a real winner when they go live. People holding out for lower prices have missed the boat.
that is a good price for wholesale and retail should be around $ 2,000
I would keep your sets. Valuation will take months to play out.
That Peace rendition is gorgeous.
I wanted to put a double “agree” on the gorgeous Peace dollar that y’all are gonna be salivating over here very soon!
I think many collectors will want 1x Morgan and 1x Peace - this type set will be more popular and affordable to the average collector than a complete set - especially if the 6 coin set is $1,000+++.