Ouch, @76collector that is ROUGH, man. I did the same thing with an '89 Donruss rack case and subbed the ONE Griffey that was absolutely perfect. It got an 8.
even with the buy out rumors swirling, i broke down and prepared my first ever sgc sub. lower end stuff but such a pain trying to move raw. figured the difference in value will be offset by cheaper grading cost ($30 vs $??) and the tvm. waiting 18 months timeline simply not worth it anymore.
76collector, Does all the cards appear to be in the same condition that they were sent? Some of the ones I have received back seem to have imperfections that I would have noticed before submitting.
@76collector said:
111 card value modern
arrived - 10/7/2020
recieved - 11/7/2020
assembly - 7/2/2021
QA1 and QA2 - 7/7/2021
grades popped 7/9
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On the bright side, when I start selling these cards to pay for my 1K+ in grading fees I PROMISE I will have some super happy customers that will be telling me how beautiful their psa 8's are...
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Depending on what you have into this one- you might just be OK in the long run buddy
89 1 51973162 NEAR MINT 7 2000 Bowman 236 Tom Brady Card
Unless of course this was a flyer costing you several hundred to buy.
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p.s. And yes I'm happy with the PSA 8 Brady I got from ya
Well, this is my most disappointing sub yet. 1 gem mint 10 out of 111 and there were 20ish 2010 and later cards subbed, so not like they have been mishandled or have printing issues.
Sorry man that's a kick in the groin. There ought to have been a few more 10s in there just by accident ffs.
Would really appreciate it if you could post some scans. If you can stomach it, that is.
Have this order that is showing completed but no E-Mail yet with grades. Their not going to make me wait all weekend are they!!! It shows as shipped but without any ship date? Today just not updated yet?
Got an email at 10:55 PM tonight (Friday) asking me to check my submission received 1/29/21 for errors. Just moved from research to grading. Value modern, 20 cards.
Here is something different, I sent in a few on the PSA / DNA special. I was checking somehting else and I saw that they popped. The ones that came back as Questionable are all head scratchers to me, but oh well.
Line # Cert # Item Primary Subject Result/Grade
1 84361547 Trading Card Willie Roaf Authentic
2 84361548 Trading Card Bill Doran Authentic
3 84361549 Trading Card Mike Scott Authentic
4 84361550 Trading Card Doug Drabek Authentic
5 84361551 Trading Card Roberto Alomar Authentic
6 84361552 Trading Card Roy Sievers Authentic
7 84361553 Trading Card Johnny Pesky Authentic
8 84361555 Trading Card Mark Grace Authentic
8 84361554 Trading Card Mark Grace Authentic
9 Trading Card Don Mattingly Questionable Authenticity
10 Trading Card Jose Canseco Questionable Authenticity
11 84361558 Trading Card Rafael Palmeiro Authentic
12 84361559 Trading Card Terry Pendleton Authentic
13 84361560 Trading Card Tom Herr Authentic
14 84361561 Trading Card Will Clark Authentic
15 84361562 Trading Card Gregg Jefferies Authentic
16 84361563 Trading Card Brian Jordan Authentic
17 84361564 Trading Card Hakeem Olajuwon Authentic
18 84361565 Trading Card Scottie Pippen Authentic
19 84361566 Trading Card Clyde Drexler Authentic
20 84361567 Trading Card Ken Stabler Authentic
21 84361568 Trading Card Billy Sims Authentic
22 84361569 Trading Card Mike Singletary Authentic
23 84361570 Trading Card Bobby Hebert Authentic
24 84361571 Trading Card Tom Rathman Authentic
25 84361572 Trading Card John Taylor Authentic
26 Trading Card Tony Gonzalez Questionable Authenticity
27 84361574 Trading Card Jim Wilks Authentic
28 84361575 Trading Card Warren Rabb Authentic
29 Trading Card John Elway Questionable Authenticity
Got Finished today.
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 51680847 MINT 9 1996 Bowman's Best 80 Michael Jordan Card
2 1 51680848 MINT 9 1997 Metal Universe 20 Allen Iverson Card
3 1 51680849 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1997 Topps Chrome Topps 40 T40-5 Michael Jordan Card
4 1 51680850 MINT 9 1996 Topps Mystery Finest M14 Michael Jordan Super Team Division Winner Card
5 1 51680851 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Fleer All-Stars 5 Michael Jordan Card
6 1 51680852 MINT 9 1997 Stadium Club Hoop Screams HS10 Michael Jordan Card
7 1 51680853 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1998 Fleer 1 Kobe Bryant Card
8 1 51680854 NEAR MINT 7 1997 Stadium Club Hardcourt Heroics H1 Michael Jordan Card
9 1 51680855 MINT 9 1996 Hoops Head to Head HH2 M.Jordan/S.Pippen Card
10 1 51680856 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1995 Finest Mystery M1 Michael Jordan Card
11 1 51680857 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1997 Stadium Club 201 Tim Duncan Card
12 1 51680858 MINT 9 1996 Topps Season's Best 1 Michael Jordan Card
13 1 51680859 MINT 9 1997 Fleer Soaring Stars 9 Michael Jordan Card
14 1 51680860 NEAR MINT 7 1995 Metal Maximum Metal 4 Michael Jordan Card
15 1 51680861 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1997 Metal Universe Championship 72 Tim Duncan Card
16 1 51680862 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1997 Metal Universe 81 Kobe Bryant Card
17 1 51680863 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2000 SPx Masters M1 Michael Jordan Card
18 1 51680864 MINT 9 1997 Ultra Big Shots 1 Michael Jordan Card
19 1 51680865 MINT 9 1998 Finest 81 Michael Jordan w/Coating Card
20 1 51680866 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1995 Hoops Power Palette 1 Michael Jordan C
this was at the $300 level. the Pokémon guy knew nothing about baseball cards but was obliged to help him.
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No one is obliged to help anyone be financially foolish. This is called "lemming theory" and anyone deliberately helping someone else do it -- well that person has an ethics problem. We don't need to add to that ethics issues list this hobby is full of them currently. I'd have been obliged personally to inform that someone I wanted no part in their $300 submission, and would have tried convincing them why the lower level amounts made more financial sense. If they decided against my advice= well they'd have been pointed elsewhere. I try not to allow myself to be a conduit of financial ignorance- if I can help it.
Interesting tier subber poppage figures shown also . No sympathy on tier sub return levels-part of being a tier subber with lower fees is an expectation that we are required to deal with "longer wait times at a lower price"- a part of the contract pricing verbiage many seem to have overlooked in their haste to get those lower fees. Oh well= life on life's terms. It's always been an issue ( waiting) even when business was "slower". People would complain about 40 day waits on 25 day "approximate" subs, or an 11 business day wait on a 5 day "approximate" I used to average 35-37 days on those 25 day subs , and was happy as all get out to have them back that quick, as they were 'consistent" on the speed and accuracy. And the price was completely acceptable unlike this current nonsense. I've never been dumb enough to overpay for 'speed" sake no matter how hot some fool was. If they are worth a crap "investing" in they are worth short and long term patience.
Club members put up with more and pay more money. Personally I'm trying not to let that wait negativity affect my outlooks. I may have missed some open windows, but that doesn't mean those doors are closed. Just means I'll need to pounce on that next opportunity when it arises. Just like everyone else I'd have loved to have snagged tons of the free Covid funds- just had other things going on and couldn't fully take advantage . Either I couldn't get the orders entered fast enough or the cards back quick enough. Life on life's terms once again.
Anyways to the subject at hand- that sub I showed above and the 2 others from 9/09 both spent 1 day in QA1 and now are in QA2. Guess I'll be spending more time than usual when they return viewing the labels and cards for damages.
Sigh
Hope many of you enjoy the National. Takes some pics please.
what are the new turn around times looking like for an express $200 service level single card order? CTD shows they are at 100% completion. need a card for a quick turn around, but want sure what the new express times looked like these days.
@rexvos said:
Here is something different, I sent in a few on the PSA / DNA special. I was checking somehting else and I saw that they popped. The ones that came back as Questionable are all head scratchers to me, but oh well.
Line # Cert # Item Primary Subject Result/Grade
1 84361547 Trading Card Willie Roaf Authentic
2 84361548 Trading Card Bill Doran Authentic
3 84361549 Trading Card Mike Scott Authentic
4 84361550 Trading Card Doug Drabek Authentic
5 84361551 Trading Card Roberto Alomar Authentic
6 84361552 Trading Card Roy Sievers Authentic
7 84361553 Trading Card Johnny Pesky Authentic
8 84361555 Trading Card Mark Grace Authentic
8 84361554 Trading Card Mark Grace Authentic
9 Trading Card Don Mattingly Questionable Authenticity
10 Trading Card Jose Canseco Questionable Authenticity
11 84361558 Trading Card Rafael Palmeiro Authentic
12 84361559 Trading Card Terry Pendleton Authentic
13 84361560 Trading Card Tom Herr Authentic
14 84361561 Trading Card Will Clark Authentic
15 84361562 Trading Card Gregg Jefferies Authentic
16 84361563 Trading Card Brian Jordan Authentic
17 84361564 Trading Card Hakeem Olajuwon Authentic
18 84361565 Trading Card Scottie Pippen Authentic
19 84361566 Trading Card Clyde Drexler Authentic
20 84361567 Trading Card Ken Stabler Authentic
21 84361568 Trading Card Billy Sims Authentic
22 84361569 Trading Card Mike Singletary Authentic
23 84361570 Trading Card Bobby Hebert Authentic
24 84361571 Trading Card Tom Rathman Authentic
25 84361572 Trading Card John Taylor Authentic
26 Trading Card Tony Gonzalez Questionable Authenticity
27 84361574 Trading Card Jim Wilks Authentic
28 84361575 Trading Card Warren Rabb Authentic
29 Trading Card John Elway Questionable Authenticity
Great names in here, Rexvos. Did you seek out these autos yourself or were they acquired second hand?
@rexvos said:
Here is something different, I sent in a few on the PSA / DNA special. I was checking somehting else and I saw that they popped. The ones that came back as Questionable are all head scratchers to me, but oh well.
Line # Cert # Item Primary Subject Result/Grade
1 84361547 Trading Card Willie Roaf Authentic
2 84361548 Trading Card Bill Doran Authentic
3 84361549 Trading Card Mike Scott Authentic
4 84361550 Trading Card Doug Drabek Authentic
5 84361551 Trading Card Roberto Alomar Authentic
6 84361552 Trading Card Roy Sievers Authentic
7 84361553 Trading Card Johnny Pesky Authentic
8 84361555 Trading Card Mark Grace Authentic
8 84361554 Trading Card Mark Grace Authentic
9 Trading Card Don Mattingly Questionable Authenticity
10 Trading Card Jose Canseco Questionable Authenticity
11 84361558 Trading Card Rafael Palmeiro Authentic
12 84361559 Trading Card Terry Pendleton Authentic
13 84361560 Trading Card Tom Herr Authentic
14 84361561 Trading Card Will Clark Authentic
15 84361562 Trading Card Gregg Jefferies Authentic
16 84361563 Trading Card Brian Jordan Authentic
17 84361564 Trading Card Hakeem Olajuwon Authentic
18 84361565 Trading Card Scottie Pippen Authentic
19 84361566 Trading Card Clyde Drexler Authentic
20 84361567 Trading Card Ken Stabler Authentic
21 84361568 Trading Card Billy Sims Authentic
22 84361569 Trading Card Mike Singletary Authentic
23 84361570 Trading Card Bobby Hebert Authentic
24 84361571 Trading Card Tom Rathman Authentic
25 84361572 Trading Card John Taylor Authentic
26 Trading Card Tony Gonzalez Questionable Authenticity
27 84361574 Trading Card Jim Wilks Authentic
28 84361575 Trading Card Warren Rabb Authentic
29 Trading Card John Elway Questionable Authenticity
Great names in here, Rexvos. Did you seek out these autos yourself or were they acquired second hand?
I got the Hakeem for my son at Tri Star in Houston a few years back on an 85 Star Card I had, same as the Singletary on his rookie card, The Roaf I got in person after his rookie year (we went to La Tech together, he was a SR when I was a Freshman), The Doran and Mike Scott I picked up ttm as an Astros fan in the late 80s, Hebert was also in person at their training camp, as was Jim Wilks. The rest came through collections I bought, and thought they would look good slabbed. I'll post pics in the main forum when they get in.
this was at the $300 level. the Pokémon guy knew nothing about baseball cards but was obliged to help him.
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No one is obliged to help anyone be financially foolish. This is called "lemming theory" and anyone deliberately helping someone else do it -- well that person has an ethics problem. We don't need to add to that ethics issues list this hobby is full of them currently. I'd have been obliged personally to inform that someone I wanted no part in their $300 submission, and would have tried convincing them why the lower level amounts made more financial sense. If they decided against my advice= well they'd have been pointed elsewhere. I try not to allow myself to be a conduit of financial ignorance- if I can help it.
so. do you still feel the pokemon sub guy was taking advantage of the griffey subber? its more than obvious that the guy in the vid knew basically nothing about sports cards and that he only threw them in to help his buddy, not to profit off of him. the video even says $300 level which is what psa charges. not $325 or $350. theres also no minimum quantity needed for express. so its not like he needed his griffeys to fill out a sub. this is not a lemming. this is a piggyback. a terrible one, yes. but like i said earlier, his friend asked him to throw in these cards w his pokemon sub and he obliged. zero unethical things going on here. dumb? absolutely. but certainly not unethical.
getting back to the rest of the op, this is exactly why the backlog is what it is. people sending in griffey 4s and 6s even way back when at the bulk - regular levels. but yes. a total waste of $1800. 😂
GRADING
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PSA is not accepting drop-off submissions for take-home service levels.
PSA will be encapsulating ALL card sizes, including tallboy, jumbo and thick/memorabilia patch cards.
PSA is not grading tickets, packs, pins or coins on-site and is not accepting drop-off submissions for take-home service.
PSA is not offering on-site bulk discounts during the 2021 National.
Monday morning Poppage, realized I had to update me CC on Fri. Now this sub is exactly what I was expecting, should have got, and not even a single real surprise! Really, Really Pleased with this little sub!
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DATE RECEIVED
12/1/2020
DATE SHIPPED
N/A
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 52274727 NEAR MINT 7 1965 A & BC Civil War News 1 the Angry Man Card SCORE!
2 1 52274728 NEAR MINT 7 1965 A & BC Civil War News 2 Pres. Jeff Davis Card SCORE
3 1 52274729 NEAR MINT 7 1965 A & BC Civil War News 6 Pulled to Safety Card
4 1 52274730 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 A & BC Civil War News 8 Destructive Blow Card SCORE
5 1 52274731 NEAR MINT 7 1965 A & BC Civil War News 10 Destruction at Sea Card
6 1 52274732 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 A & BC Civil War News 11 Attack Card
7 1 52274733 NEAR MINT 7 1965 A & BC Civil War News 13 Dying Effort Card
8 1 52274734 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 A & BC Civil War News 34 Wall of Corpses Card SCORE
9 1 52274735 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1941 Uncle Sam 104 Enlisting Home Guard Card
10 1 52274736 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 A & BC Civil War News 39 General Lee Card
11 1 52274737 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 A & BC Civil War News 58 Angel of Mercy Card
12 1 52274738 NEAR MINT 7 1965 A & BC Civil War News 65 Flaming Death Card
13 1 52274739 NEAR MINT 7 1965 A & BC Civil War News 67 Deadly Duel Card
14 1 52274740 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 A & BC Civil War News 68 the Will to Win Card
15 1 52274741 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 A & BC Civil War News 81 Deadly Defense Card SCORE
16 1 52274742 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 A & BC Civil War News 83 the Looters Card SCORE
17 1 52274743 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1965 A & BC Civil War News 88 Checklist #1-88 Card
18 1 52274744 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1941 Uncle Sam 100 Air Raid Warden Card
19 1 52274745 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1941 Uncle Sam 102 Women's Duties Card
20 1 52274746 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1941 Uncle Sam 105 Home Guard Rifle Practice Card
21 1 52274747 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1941 Uncle Sam 108 Drivers Corps Card
22 1 52274748 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1971 Topps 695 Joe Niekro Card LOL LOL LOL
All of the AB&C were weeded out of a lot of about 150 of them, three time dwindled down. And scoring on the #1 #2 as 7's is Awesome! All of the Uncle Sam are exactly where they should have been, at VG-EX 4 very rare cards and especially hardly found better than EX 5, but oh well.
The Niekro is another of my Random Test cards I put into every order to show the ludicrousness of Grading. I now have about 20-30 cards that have been submitted multiple times. This was once a 5, twice, 7's, 3 times EOT, and now an 8 where it stays! I had guessed at 3 8's, 8 7's and the rest 6's on the Civil War News, which was right where I regraded. them!
Due to the Grades of my last Sub with the 1959 3 Stooges and this one, that most are PSA's grading on vintage is almost exactly where my Pregrading was!
Thats 's a bummer they aren't grading packs at the show. My dream would be to be able to drop off packs at PSA, have them immediately shuttled over to Steve Hart for authentication and then back to the PSA booth for holdering all in one day and with no risk of damage in the mail!
PSA/DNA AUTO ENCAPSULATION
Arrived 5/12/2021
Entered 5/20/2021
Popped 7/12/2021
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 8436XXXX MINT 9 ALBUM PAGE ELVIS PRESLEY
That’s exactly what I hoped it would grade. I knew it wouldn’t get a 10, but it’s a beautiful auto signed in 1956. Really happy with this, as long as the encapsulation looks nice.
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 8436XXXX MINT 9 ALBUM PAGE ELVIS PRESLEY
That’s exactly what I hoped it would grade. I knew it wouldn’t get a 10, but it’s a beautiful auto signed in 1956. Really happy with this, as long as the encapsulation looks nice.
Sounds cool! Show us a picture of it when you get it back!
Holy schnikies! Grading earlier today, reported an error in my review of the descriptions, fixed the error pronto, and already into Assembly?!?! Wow, I figured the graders would need days/weeks once the packs came back from Steve.
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 8436XXXX MINT 9 ALBUM PAGE ELVIS PRESLEY
That’s exactly what I hoped it would grade. I knew it wouldn’t get a 10, but it’s a beautiful auto signed in 1956. Really happy with this, as long as the encapsulation looks nice.
Yes, absolutely show us a picture and a little story about the item. That's a great item. I'm a huge Elvis fan too.
I guess they are caught up on the entry side as announced. I sent in a cc voucher order that I had left over, received yesterday , in grading today. Totally was not expecting that
This is crazy! $300 for these Griffey cards and the “Friend” was blindly sending in these apparently with no knowledge of how to grade or what makes sense to grade. This guy claims to have no knowledge of sports cards (and he talks like that is true). That 90D DK is not a super, mechanical error.. What this guys says is just so wrong in every account. Ufff I need a cold shower after that massacre.
This is crazy! $300 for these Griffey cards and the “Friend” was blindly sending in these apparently with no knowledge of how to grade or what makes sense to grade. This guy claims to have no knowledge of sports cards (and he talks like that is true). That 90D DK is not a super, mechanical error.. What this guys says is just so wrong in every account. Ufff I need a cold shower after that massacre.
my favorite part was the unlicensed griffey that came back unholdered. pretty telling that neither of them had a clue. at least that saved him $300. 😉
This is crazy! $300 for these Griffey cards and the “Friend” was blindly sending in these apparently with no knowledge of how to grade or what makes sense to grade. This guy claims to have no knowledge of sports cards (and he talks like that is true). That 90D DK is not a super, mechanical error.. What this guys says is just so wrong in every account. Ufff I need a cold shower after that massacre.
my favorite part was the unlicensed griffey that came back unholdered. pretty telling that neither of them had a clue. at least that saved him $300. 😉
I have 3 Value Modern subs with entry dates of 12/28 and 1/12 moving from grading to Assembly and a 3 card Regular that popped with entry date of 5/10. Got killed on it, but previous regular sub of a simlar age/players of 6 cards was within expectations with maybe a gift 9 on a 88 Jordan, so....we will see. I have about 70 1986 fleer basketball out of the 105 in those 3 VM subs....verrry pins and needly around here....also have my first SGC sub of 27 in grading and about 40 at HGA w 5 back from them so far. Going to be an exciting summer...
Express sub for my son-in-law: 2 Pokemon cards from his childhood (1999 Blastoise 1st edition holo & 1997 Japanese Rocket Dark Charizard-Holo). Both look to be in pretty good shape, so we'll see...
Like the other July Express subs recently posted in this thread, this one had one-day loggage, so that's promising.
@weaselpuppy said:
Also, I am holding out hope that Value Ultra Modern next month sees the movement of Value Modern, but I suspect its more like 2-3 months.
well they supposedly reorganized everything. so technically its not really a level thing anymore, but first in, first out. im skeptical too.
Yeah, so far the 2 Ultra's I have that were in there logged date between the dates of my 3 Modern subs are all still in R/ID -3, so I'm calling BS on that FIFO lip service too until proven otherwise
@weaselpuppy said:
Yeah, so far the 2 Ultra's I have that were in there logged date between the dates of my 3 Modern subs are all still in R/ID -3, so I'm calling BS on that FIFO lip service too until proven otherwise
perfect timing. i have a regular in that was entered on 3/31. still in grading.
today:
2 card regular
arrived: 3/29/21
entered: 5/14/21
popped: 7/13/21
1 1 62678786 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2018 Panini Donruss Optic 177 Luka Doncic Choice
2 1 62678787 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Select 279 Keldon Johnson Zebra Prizm
notes: one testi-slap. one home run. not happy, not mad. a draw, i guess. could be worse. fifo definitely not happening at this point though.
More updates at least I can say the CRC system is working flawlessly. I got replies quickly and labels faster even over a holiday weekend. Great job from my CRC rep
Hard to believed a March 31 "entered" still isn't done- that one would have me on the phone. No reason for that they should be nearly done with March 'entered" they were 75% nearly on June 7th for lords sake ==how many could they have gotten those last few weeks ? Not worried most of my Regulars all have late April early May "entered" dates should all pop in August as planned.
They use "batch" FIFO - not regular FIFO . Think the JUNE BLOG explained it nicely. Some of these orders though =not sure why they get held up.
so. do you still feel the pokemon sub guy was taking advantage of the griffey subber? its more than obvious that the guy in the vid knew basically nothing about sports cards and that he only threw them in to help his buddy, not to profit off of him.
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I see your side and understand it. See below for my side.
Someone with a moral compass that guides basic right and wrong common sense actions would not have done it. He may not have done it deliberately on purpose to his friend- but his actions make me question his own moral compass and thought process .
Maybe its a generational thing. I have operated my entire life with a code of personal conduct in place that places common sense above all else , and tells me when I'm clueless about something, I should then start asking a whole bunch of professional and personal opinions before I take action on anything. Doesn't sound like even the most basic attempts at that occurred in this case. Yeah- personal and professional code of conduct (its called " ethics " ) issue with Pokemon card guy .
Now- if they'd have done their homework- told their friend " Hey bro doesn't seem like a good idea maybe you should wait for lower prices" and the friend told him "send them anyways" - then fine he'd do it with their blessing. But blindly doing things- lemmings. Others can call it what they want.......I hold myself to a stricter standard of conduct. I need to sleep at night knowing I did everything I could to help my friend out, and nothing I did hurt him in any way ,financial or otherwise.
some good news. without going into details, set collectors need not fret about getting priced out. it is gonna be a while and well after the backlog is taken care of and the initial reopening wave is confirmed under control, but there will be a modest discount for pre-80ish cards. a heftier premium and rightfully so will be placed on modern/ultra modern. specials will definitely be done for intermediary years after 80. supposedly a lot of other things in the works as well.
now if we can just get some consistency and/or a new rule book to grading guidelines.
76 card modern arrived 10/9/20 and entered 1/14/21 has been in QA2 for about a week. Just got an up-charge email for 4 of the cards.
1982 Wrestling All stars Andre the Giant PSA 5
1982 Wrestling All stars Bruiser Brody
PSA 9
1998 Topps Chrome Dirk Nowitzki PSA 10
2002 Topps Chrome Ginobili PSA 10
@mrburns443 said:
76 card modern arrived 10/9/20 and entered 1/14/21 has been in QA2 for about a week. Just got an up-charge email for 4 of the cards.
1982 Wrestling All stars Andre the Giant PSA 5
1982 Wrestling All stars Bruiser Brody
PSA 9
1998 Topps Chrome Dirk Nowitzki PSA 10
2002 Topps Chrome Ginobili PSA 10
You should be happy with your Wrestling All Stars grades......congrats!
BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
Express sub for my son-in-law: 2 Pokemon cards from his childhood (1999 Blastoise 1st edition holo & 1997 Japanese Rocket Dark Charizard-Holo). Both look to be in pretty good shape, so we'll see...
Like the other July Express subs recently posted in this thread, this one had one-day loggage, so that's promising.
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Ouch, @76collector that is ROUGH, man. I did the same thing with an '89 Donruss rack case and subbed the ONE Griffey that was absolutely perfect. It got an 8.
even with the buy out rumors swirling, i broke down and prepared my first ever sgc sub. lower end stuff but such a pain trying to move raw. figured the difference in value will be offset by cheaper grading cost ($30 vs $??) and the tvm. waiting 18 months timeline simply not worth it anymore.
76collector, Does all the cards appear to be in the same condition that they were sent? Some of the ones I have received back seem to have imperfections that I would have noticed before submitting.
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Depending on what you have into this one- you might just be OK in the long run buddy
89 1 51973162 NEAR MINT 7 2000 Bowman 236 Tom Brady Card
Unless of course this was a flyer costing you several hundred to buy.
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p.s. And yes I'm happy with the PSA 8 Brady I got from ya
Sorry man that's a kick in the groin. There ought to have been a few more 10s in there just by accident ffs.
Would really appreciate it if you could post some scans. If you can stomach it, that is.
Yo,
Have this order that is showing completed but no E-Mail yet with grades. Their not going to make me wait all weekend are they!!! It shows as shipped but without any ship date? Today just not updated yet?
YeeHaw!
Neil
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Mine popped today, 129 card value modern went to QA2 on July 7th, popped a couple hours ago
Got an email at 10:55 PM tonight (Friday) asking me to check my submission received 1/29/21 for errors. Just moved from research to grading. Value modern, 20 cards.
so much for all that time spent to reorganize subs into a fifo operation.
Here is something different, I sent in a few on the PSA / DNA special. I was checking somehting else and I saw that they popped. The ones that came back as Questionable are all head scratchers to me, but oh well.
Line # Cert # Item Primary Subject Result/Grade
1 84361547 Trading Card Willie Roaf Authentic
2 84361548 Trading Card Bill Doran Authentic
3 84361549 Trading Card Mike Scott Authentic
4 84361550 Trading Card Doug Drabek Authentic
5 84361551 Trading Card Roberto Alomar Authentic
6 84361552 Trading Card Roy Sievers Authentic
7 84361553 Trading Card Johnny Pesky Authentic
8 84361555 Trading Card Mark Grace Authentic
8 84361554 Trading Card Mark Grace Authentic
9 Trading Card Don Mattingly Questionable Authenticity
10 Trading Card Jose Canseco Questionable Authenticity
11 84361558 Trading Card Rafael Palmeiro Authentic
12 84361559 Trading Card Terry Pendleton Authentic
13 84361560 Trading Card Tom Herr Authentic
14 84361561 Trading Card Will Clark Authentic
15 84361562 Trading Card Gregg Jefferies Authentic
16 84361563 Trading Card Brian Jordan Authentic
17 84361564 Trading Card Hakeem Olajuwon Authentic
18 84361565 Trading Card Scottie Pippen Authentic
19 84361566 Trading Card Clyde Drexler Authentic
20 84361567 Trading Card Ken Stabler Authentic
21 84361568 Trading Card Billy Sims Authentic
22 84361569 Trading Card Mike Singletary Authentic
23 84361570 Trading Card Bobby Hebert Authentic
24 84361571 Trading Card Tom Rathman Authentic
25 84361572 Trading Card John Taylor Authentic
26 Trading Card Tony Gonzalez Questionable Authenticity
27 84361574 Trading Card Jim Wilks Authentic
28 84361575 Trading Card Warren Rabb Authentic
29 Trading Card John Elway Questionable Authenticity
Got Finished today.
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 51680847 MINT 9 1996 Bowman's Best 80 Michael Jordan Card
2 1 51680848 MINT 9 1997 Metal Universe 20 Allen Iverson Card
3 1 51680849 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1997 Topps Chrome Topps 40 T40-5 Michael Jordan Card
4 1 51680850 MINT 9 1996 Topps Mystery Finest M14 Michael Jordan Super Team Division Winner Card
5 1 51680851 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Fleer All-Stars 5 Michael Jordan Card
6 1 51680852 MINT 9 1997 Stadium Club Hoop Screams HS10 Michael Jordan Card
7 1 51680853 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1998 Fleer 1 Kobe Bryant Card
8 1 51680854 NEAR MINT 7 1997 Stadium Club Hardcourt Heroics H1 Michael Jordan Card
9 1 51680855 MINT 9 1996 Hoops Head to Head HH2 M.Jordan/S.Pippen Card
10 1 51680856 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1995 Finest Mystery M1 Michael Jordan Card
11 1 51680857 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1997 Stadium Club 201 Tim Duncan Card
12 1 51680858 MINT 9 1996 Topps Season's Best 1 Michael Jordan Card
13 1 51680859 MINT 9 1997 Fleer Soaring Stars 9 Michael Jordan Card
14 1 51680860 NEAR MINT 7 1995 Metal Maximum Metal 4 Michael Jordan Card
15 1 51680861 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1997 Metal Universe Championship 72 Tim Duncan Card
16 1 51680862 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1997 Metal Universe 81 Kobe Bryant Card
17 1 51680863 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2000 SPx Masters M1 Michael Jordan Card
18 1 51680864 MINT 9 1997 Ultra Big Shots 1 Michael Jordan Card
19 1 51680865 MINT 9 1998 Finest 81 Michael Jordan w/Coating Card
20 1 51680866 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1995 Hoops Power Palette 1 Michael Jordan C
this was at the $300 level. the Pokémon guy knew nothing about baseball cards but was obliged to help him.
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No one is obliged to help anyone be financially foolish. This is called "lemming theory" and anyone deliberately helping someone else do it -- well that person has an ethics problem. We don't need to add to that ethics issues list this hobby is full of them currently. I'd have been obliged personally to inform that someone I wanted no part in their $300 submission, and would have tried convincing them why the lower level amounts made more financial sense. If they decided against my advice= well they'd have been pointed elsewhere. I try not to allow myself to be a conduit of financial ignorance- if I can help it.
Interesting tier subber poppage figures shown also . No sympathy on tier sub return levels-part of being a tier subber with lower fees is an expectation that we are required to deal with "longer wait times at a lower price"- a part of the contract pricing verbiage many seem to have overlooked in their haste to get those lower fees. Oh well= life on life's terms. It's always been an issue ( waiting) even when business was "slower". People would complain about 40 day waits on 25 day "approximate" subs, or an 11 business day wait on a 5 day "approximate"
I used to average 35-37 days on those 25 day subs , and was happy as all get out to have them back that quick, as they were 'consistent" on the speed and accuracy. And the price was completely acceptable unlike this current nonsense. I've never been dumb enough to overpay for 'speed" sake no matter how hot some fool was. If they are worth a crap "investing" in they are worth short and long term patience.
Club members put up with more and pay more money. Personally I'm trying not to let that wait negativity affect my outlooks. I may have missed some open windows, but that doesn't mean those doors are closed. Just means I'll need to pounce on that next opportunity when it arises. Just like everyone else I'd have loved to have snagged tons of the free Covid funds- just had other things going on and couldn't fully take advantage . Either I couldn't get the orders entered fast enough or the cards back quick enough. Life on life's terms once again.
Anyways to the subject at hand- that sub I showed above and the 2 others from 9/09 both spent 1 day in QA1 and now are in QA2. Guess I'll be spending more time than usual when they return viewing the labels and cards for damages.
Sigh
Hope many of you enjoy the National. Takes some pics please.
what are the new turn around times looking like for an express $200 service level single card order? CTD shows they are at 100% completion. need a card for a quick turn around, but want sure what the new express times looked like these days.
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Great names in here, Rexvos. Did you seek out these autos yourself or were they acquired second hand?
ethics problem?
What was this. $300 to grade those Griffey's ?? That's simply crazy.
I got the Hakeem for my son at Tri Star in Houston a few years back on an 85 Star Card I had, same as the Singletary on his rookie card, The Roaf I got in person after his rookie year (we went to La Tech together, he was a SR when I was a Freshman), The Doran and Mike Scott I picked up ttm as an Astros fan in the late 80s, Hebert was also in person at their training camp, as was Jim Wilks. The rest came through collections I bought, and thought they would look good slabbed. I'll post pics in the main forum when they get in.
A $300 sub of a 1990 Donruss DK Griffey that graded a 4? Money well spent.
so. do you still feel the pokemon sub guy was taking advantage of the griffey subber? its more than obvious that the guy in the vid knew basically nothing about sports cards and that he only threw them in to help his buddy, not to profit off of him. the video even says $300 level which is what psa charges. not $325 or $350. theres also no minimum quantity needed for express. so its not like he needed his griffeys to fill out a sub. this is not a lemming. this is a piggyback. a terrible one, yes. but like i said earlier, his friend asked him to throw in these cards w his pokemon sub and he obliged. zero unethical things going on here. dumb? absolutely. but certainly not unethical.
getting back to the rest of the op, this is exactly why the backlog is what it is. people sending in griffey 4s and 6s even way back when at the bulk - regular levels. but yes. a total waste of $1800. 😂
national pricing:
GRADING
$250 - $0-$4,999 Value - End of Show
$600 - $5000-$9,999 Value - End of Day
$1000 - $10,000-$24,999 Value - 2 Hours (Approx.)
$2000 - $25,000-$49,999 Value - 2 Hours (Approx.)
$3000 - $50,000-$99,999 Value - 2 Hours (Approx.)
$5000 - $100,000-$249,999 Value - 2 Hours (Approx.)
$10,000 - $250,000 + Value - 2 Hours (Approx.)
REHOLDER
$100 - $99,999 & Under VALUE - End of Day
$250 - $499,999 & Under VALUE - 2 Hours (Approx.)
$500 - $500,000 + VALUE - 2 Hours (Approx.)
Good Day,
Monday morning Poppage, realized I had to update me CC on Fri. Now this sub is exactly what I was expecting, should have got, and not even a single real surprise! Really, Really Pleased with this little sub!
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DATE RECEIVED
12/1/2020
DATE SHIPPED
N/A
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 52274727 NEAR MINT 7 1965 A & BC Civil War News 1 the Angry Man Card SCORE!
2 1 52274728 NEAR MINT 7 1965 A & BC Civil War News 2 Pres. Jeff Davis Card SCORE
3 1 52274729 NEAR MINT 7 1965 A & BC Civil War News 6 Pulled to Safety Card
4 1 52274730 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 A & BC Civil War News 8 Destructive Blow Card SCORE
5 1 52274731 NEAR MINT 7 1965 A & BC Civil War News 10 Destruction at Sea Card
6 1 52274732 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 A & BC Civil War News 11 Attack Card
7 1 52274733 NEAR MINT 7 1965 A & BC Civil War News 13 Dying Effort Card
8 1 52274734 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 A & BC Civil War News 34 Wall of Corpses Card SCORE
9 1 52274735 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1941 Uncle Sam 104 Enlisting Home Guard Card
10 1 52274736 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 A & BC Civil War News 39 General Lee Card
11 1 52274737 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 A & BC Civil War News 58 Angel of Mercy Card
12 1 52274738 NEAR MINT 7 1965 A & BC Civil War News 65 Flaming Death Card
13 1 52274739 NEAR MINT 7 1965 A & BC Civil War News 67 Deadly Duel Card
14 1 52274740 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1965 A & BC Civil War News 68 the Will to Win Card
15 1 52274741 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 A & BC Civil War News 81 Deadly Defense Card SCORE
16 1 52274742 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 A & BC Civil War News 83 the Looters Card SCORE
17 1 52274743 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1965 A & BC Civil War News 88 Checklist #1-88 Card
18 1 52274744 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1941 Uncle Sam 100 Air Raid Warden Card
19 1 52274745 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1941 Uncle Sam 102 Women's Duties Card
20 1 52274746 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1941 Uncle Sam 105 Home Guard Rifle Practice Card
21 1 52274747 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1941 Uncle Sam 108 Drivers Corps Card
22 1 52274748 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1971 Topps 695 Joe Niekro Card LOL LOL LOL
All of the AB&C were weeded out of a lot of about 150 of them, three time dwindled down. And scoring on the #1 #2 as 7's is Awesome! All of the Uncle Sam are exactly where they should have been, at VG-EX 4 very rare cards and especially hardly found better than EX 5, but oh well.
The Niekro is another of my Random Test cards I put into every order to show the ludicrousness of Grading. I now have about 20-30 cards that have been submitted multiple times. This was once a 5, twice, 7's, 3 times EOT, and now an 8 where it stays! I had guessed at 3 8's, 8 7's and the rest 6's on the Civil War News, which was right where I regraded. them!
Due to the Grades of my last Sub with the 1959 3 Stooges and this one, that most are PSA's grading on vintage is almost exactly where my Pregrading was!
Thanks
YeeHaw!
Neil!
seeing a lil movement into ass - qa2 on a few regular subs entered on 5/4.
still have one stuck in grading entered back on 3/31 though.
Had a pack sub move into grading today.
Received: 1/7
Entered: 1/11
Grading: 7/12
My pack sub went to grading also - 19 packs 1982 and newer:
Arrived 10/13/2020
Entered 1/14/2021
Grading 7/12/2021
Jim
Thats 's a bummer they aren't grading packs at the show. My dream would be to be able to drop off packs at PSA, have them immediately shuttled over to Steve Hart for authentication and then back to the PSA booth for holdering all in one day and with no risk of damage in the mail!
PSA/DNA AUTO ENCAPSULATION
Arrived 5/12/2021
Entered 5/20/2021
Popped 7/12/2021
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 8436XXXX MINT 9 ALBUM PAGE ELVIS PRESLEY
That’s exactly what I hoped it would grade. I knew it wouldn’t get a 10, but it’s a beautiful auto signed in 1956. Really happy with this, as long as the encapsulation looks nice.
Sounds cool! Show us a picture of it when you get it back!
Holy schnikies! Grading earlier today, reported an error in my review of the descriptions, fixed the error pronto, and already into Assembly?!?! Wow, I figured the graders would need days/weeks once the packs came back from Steve.
Jim
Yes, absolutely show us a picture and a little story about the item. That's a great item. I'm a huge Elvis fan too.
I guess they are caught up on the entry side as announced. I sent in a cc voucher order that I had left over, received yesterday , in grading today. Totally was not expecting that
This is crazy! $300 for these Griffey cards and the “Friend” was blindly sending in these apparently with no knowledge of how to grade or what makes sense to grade. This guy claims to have no knowledge of sports cards (and he talks like that is true). That 90D DK is not a super, mechanical error.. What this guys says is just so wrong in every account. Ufff I need a cold shower after that massacre.
Nic
Guides Authored - Graded Card Scanning Guide PDF | History of the PSA Label PDF
my favorite part was the unlicensed griffey that came back unholdered. pretty telling that neither of them had a clue. at least that saved him $300. 😉
“always look on the bright side of life.”
Yeah, I guess!! Crazy!
Nic
Guides Authored - Graded Card Scanning Guide PDF | History of the PSA Label PDF
I have 3 Value Modern subs with entry dates of 12/28 and 1/12 moving from grading to Assembly and a 3 card Regular that popped with entry date of 5/10. Got killed on it, but previous regular sub of a simlar age/players of 6 cards was within expectations with maybe a gift 9 on a 88 Jordan, so....we will see. I have about 70 1986 fleer basketball out of the 105 in those 3 VM subs....verrry pins and needly around here....also have my first SGC sub of 27 in grading and about 40 at HGA w 5 back from them so far. Going to be an exciting summer...
Also, I am holding out hope that Value Ultra Modern next month sees the movement of Value Modern, but I suspect its more like 2-3 months.
Express sub for my son-in-law: 2 Pokemon cards from his childhood (1999 Blastoise 1st edition holo & 1997 Japanese Rocket Dark Charizard-Holo). Both look to be in pretty good shape, so we'll see...
Like the other July Express subs recently posted in this thread, this one had one-day loggage, so that's promising.
Sent: 7/8/2021
Arrived: 7/12/2021
Logged: 7/13/2021
Prep: 7/13/2021
Research & ID: 7/13/2021
well they supposedly reorganized everything. so technically its not really a level thing anymore, but first in, first out. im skeptical too.
Yeah, so far the 2 Ultra's I have that were in there logged date between the dates of my 3 Modern subs are all still in R/ID -3, so I'm calling BS on that FIFO lip service too until proven otherwise
perfect timing. i have a regular in that was entered on 3/31. still in grading.
today:
2 card regular
arrived: 3/29/21
entered: 5/14/21
popped: 7/13/21
1 1 62678786 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2018 Panini Donruss Optic 177 Luka Doncic Choice
2 1 62678787 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Select 279 Keldon Johnson Zebra Prizm
notes: one testi-slap. one home run. not happy, not mad. a draw, i guess. could be worse. fifo definitely not happening at this point though.
Went to assembly today 7/13!
BTW this was an 81-present pack special.
More updates at least I can say the CRC system is working flawlessly. I got replies quickly and labels faster even over a holiday weekend. Great job from my CRC rep
Hard to believed a March 31 "entered" still isn't done- that one would have me on the phone. No reason for that they should be nearly done with March 'entered" they were 75% nearly on June 7th for lords sake ==how many could they have gotten those last few weeks ? Not worried most of my Regulars all have late April early May "entered" dates should all pop in August as planned.
They use "batch" FIFO - not regular FIFO . Think the JUNE BLOG explained it nicely. Some of these orders though =not sure why they get held up.
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We can respectfully have our difference of opinion.
I see your side and understand it. See below for my side.
Someone with a moral compass that guides basic right and wrong common sense actions would not have done it. He may not have done it deliberately on purpose to his friend- but his actions make me question his own moral compass and thought process .
Maybe its a generational thing. I have operated my entire life with a code of personal conduct in place that places common sense above all else , and tells me when I'm clueless about something, I should then start asking a whole bunch of professional and personal opinions before I take action on anything. Doesn't sound like even the most basic attempts at that occurred in this case. Yeah- personal and professional code of conduct (its called " ethics " ) issue with Pokemon card guy .
Now- if they'd have done their homework- told their friend " Hey bro doesn't seem like a good idea maybe you should wait for lower prices" and the friend told him "send them anyways" - then fine he'd do it with their blessing. But blindly doing things- lemmings. Others can call it what they want.......I hold myself to a stricter standard of conduct. I need to sleep at night knowing I did everything I could to help my friend out, and nothing I did hurt him in any way ,financial or otherwise.
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110%. its a "discussion" board. be pretty boring if everyone agreed! 😉
some good news. without going into details, set collectors need not fret about getting priced out. it is gonna be a while and well after the backlog is taken care of and the initial reopening wave is confirmed under control, but there will be a modest discount for pre-80ish cards. a heftier premium and rightfully so will be placed on modern/ultra modern. specials will definitely be done for intermediary years after 80. supposedly a lot of other things in the works as well.
now if we can just get some consistency and/or a new rule book to grading guidelines.
76 card modern arrived 10/9/20 and entered 1/14/21 has been in QA2 for about a week. Just got an up-charge email for 4 of the cards.
1982 Wrestling All stars Andre the Giant PSA 5
1982 Wrestling All stars Bruiser Brody
PSA 9
1998 Topps Chrome Dirk Nowitzki PSA 10
2002 Topps Chrome Ginobili PSA 10
Heres the full result from this sub
You should be happy with your Wrestling All Stars grades......congrats!
Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
Yes , I am very pleased. Thanks.
They upcharged you because of a lower service on order?
UPDATE
Express sub for my son-in-law: 2 Pokemon cards from his childhood (1999 Blastoise 1st edition holo & 1997 Japanese Rocket Dark Charizard-Holo). Both look to be in pretty good shape, so we'll see...
Like the other July Express subs recently posted in this thread, this one had one-day loggage, so that's promising.
Sent: 7/8/2021
Arrived: 7/12/2021
Logged: 7/13/2021
Prep: 7/13/2021
Research & ID: 7/13/2021
Grading: 7/14/2021
Single card Express order. This is in a PSA Blue flip with an auto grade, crossing to a red flip with dual card and auto grade for a registry set.
Shipped: 7/02/2021
Arrived: 7/07/2021
Entered: 7/08/2021
Research & ID: 7/08/2021
Grading: 7/13/2021