@envoy982 said: @jeffv96masters what was the entered date? I have a regular sub that arrived in Feb, entered 4/9 still in grading. CTD whos 99% of march so I'm hopeful it'll pop this month.
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Mailed 2/28
Arrived 3/6 ( this was the week the PO got overwhelmed)
Entered 5/11
Took about 40 business days from order arrival to show entered
Popped on business day 55. This was a 1/1 Elite Die Cut Tom Brady
1 1 XXXXXXX NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2013 Panini Elite 58 Tom Brady Black Status Die-Cut 1/1
This was the "end" of a slew of Regulars. All the rest have been back for weeks.
If yours has been sitting there a while I'd inquire into it. Email the info@pascard.com address
No reason for a 4/9 entered sub to sit there unless some slabs require scanning- which is WAY behind.
Not sure I understand the "batch FIFO" plan PSA talks about, but I had 2 Quarterly specials go to Assembly yesterday. One entered on 09/02/20, and the other was 01/13/21. Those batches must be monsters.
Bernie Carlen
Currently collecting.....your guess is as good as mine.
@PlayBall said:
Not sure I understand the "batch FIFO" plan PSA talks about, but I had 2 Quarterly specials go to Assembly yesterday. One entered on 09/02/20, and the other was 01/13/21. Those batches must be monsters.
Wow, that’s quite a spread. I had a quarterly special entered after yours on 9/15/20 that completed back on 07/07/21. I have two others entered 11/30/20 and 12/01/20 that are still grading. Their operations are quite a mystery.
Havent been on here much because my last two Subs that PSA had didnt look like they were coming out anytime soon. My most recent one I submitted before the shutdown in March was a 6 card Regular Service that arrived 3/11 and wasnt entered until 5/11.
Just by chance the other day I glanced at my account and was shocked to see the 6 Card Regular Sub was in QA2 stage - have no clue as to when it went througha s I wasnt expecting to get them until at earliest end of August.
Well a few minutes ago I get "that email" that stated one of my sub required an upcharge due to one of the cards graded put at a higher level of service. I took a look and replied instantly!
My Sub:
1990 Marvel Universe
Captain America # 1 - PSA 10
Hulk # 3 - PSA 6 Spiderman # 29 - PSA 10
Doctor Strange # 34 - PSA 10
1992 Marvel Masterpieces
Wolverine # 94 - PSA 9
1991 Marvel Universe
Venom - PSA 8
The Spidey # 29 was the only one getting an upcharge and I am definately okay with it as well as the entire sub. Ill have to take a look at the Hulk, for some reason Im missing something on the scans and screening
Anyways its definately nice to expect a sub back soon - that leaves me with a 30 Modern Sub that is in Grading and was Entered in October of last year
@chuckman said:
Explain upcharge and higher level of service. I am not sure what that means. Thanks
After grading the card was deemed more valuable than the maximum declared value of the level of service you selected, therefore PSA is charging you the rate for the service level which the graded value is deemed to be in.
Example: You sent a card with the maximum declared value of $499 at the value level, but it graded a 10 and 10's currently selling for $2500, PSA at their discretion decides to upcharge you to the Express level fee.
100 card value that i had enter on 11/3/20 has just went into QA1 on 7/30/21. I was in assembly for a few weeks so I am unsure I will be stuck here.
BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
@wrestlingcardking said:
100 card value that i had enter on 11/3/20 has just went into QA1 on 7/30/21. I was in assembly for a few weeks so I am unsure I will be stuck here.
should be pretty quick if so, rob. not sure how much the national will put a kink in the chain, but all of my subs that sit in assembly for weeks breeze thru the qas. unless upcharges occur. ones that breeze thru assembly always seem to get stuck in qa2 for a lengthier time.
Welcome to the boards Czone. How were the grades? What you expected? How long did it take when they moved to grading? I have a quarterly special that was sent in early December and entered 2 months later moved to grading last week. Much earlier than I expected.
Hi Shawther, thanks for the greeting and thanks to you and everyone on here that so generously shares information. I started collecting in 1968 but have not been active since 2010 until Covid. I have a lot of catching up to do.
My order sat in Grading for several months. As far as the grades, Apparently I forgot how to grade in the last several months. It was embarrassingly bad. I've never had anything like it. I'm looking forward to receiving the cards back and see if I was drinking during my submission or if I just had bad luck on my grader(s). Most everything was one full grade below expectations.
Best grade was a 1988 Fleer Jordan All Star graded 9. A better example would be my 9 1988 Fleer Rodmans where I received 4 8s, 3 7s, a 6 and a 5. My 7 1978 Bernard Kings were worse: 1 7, 1 6 and 5 5s.
I don't pretend to be a good grader but I never missed so bad on any previous submissions. Hope you guys do better!
I have a couple submissions of the 88 Fleer set as well. I know that centering and fish eyes are a big issue with the set. I divided up those into 2 different subs. Expecting 8’s and 9’s and hopefully a couple 10’s on the one submission. Expecting grades of 7 though 10 on the other with most of the non rookies being in the 9 range. I am curious to what you think when you get them in hand.
1 1 57200732 1981 Topps 4 Larry Bird NEAR MINT 7 - Auto Grade: MINT 9
notes: a bit absurd on every stage. regular service. 1.25 months to log. 5 months to grade. had card pegged at an 8 minimum. but the 6+ month process on a regular service level just to get kicked square in the (blank) is literally the kicker. hopefully this one gets lost in the mail too.
@Czone said:
Hi Shawther, thanks for the greeting and thanks to you and everyone on here that so generously shares information. I started collecting in 1968 but have not been active since 2010 until Covid. I have a lot of catching up to do.
My order sat in Grading for several months. As far as the grades, Apparently I forgot how to grade in the last several months. It was embarrassingly bad. I've never had anything like it. I'm looking forward to receiving the cards back and see if I was drinking during my submission or if I just had bad luck on my grader(s). Most everything was one full grade below expectations.
Best grade was a 1988 Fleer Jordan All Star graded 9. A better example would be my 9 1988 Fleer Rodmans where I received 4 8s, 3 7s, a 6 and a 5. My 7 1978 Bernard Kings were worse: 1 7, 1 6 and 5 5s.
I don't pretend to be a good grader but I never missed so bad on any previous submissions. Hope you guys do better!
I’m pretty sure having collected for so long that you didn’t suddenly forget how to grade. There have just been too many cases from people on here of getting worse grades than they used to receive. PSA seems to be really tough on grades now. It doesn’t even make sense to me why they would go that direction. It not only results in fewer chances to up charge, but people are not going to want to grade as many cards if they are going to get disappointing grades returned. PSA just needs to be realistic with their grading and more importantly be consistent with how they’ve graded in the past.
I just had an express grade pop and tracking hit (tracking not active)...how long does it normally take the certification link to be active? Would have thought this would be a go once it hit shipping....only been a couple of hours, but just checking to make sure I don't have to go back through PSA if they didn't properly assign it in the database with pics. TIA
@thebighurt35 said:
I just had an express grade pop and tracking hit (tracking not active)...how long does it normally take the certification link to be active? Would have thought this would be a go once it hit shipping....only been a couple of hours, but just checking to make sure I don't have to go back through PSA if they didn't properly assign it in the database with pics. TIA
Took my most recent sub a few days, maybe a week since I stopped checking after a few days. But they are showing now and they shipped Jul 23.
By comparison, SGC 15 card regular sub sent 7/15. entered 7/21, post-grade-processing today (8/3). Should see grades tonight or tomorrow. It's a small sample of 2020 select & mosaic Herbert/Burrow/Tua type stuff. Nothing high end. A couple with minor flaws I wanted to see how they would grade some flaws ie (small dent on back or front, minor surface scratch/lines common to the issues). I'm expecting ~10 gems and the rest 8-9's but really don't know how they downgrade for the flaws so it was $30 for each one to get the education.
I completely understand long durations from loggage date until they start working on the research stage, and I can be OK with long waits for research too. However, I don't understand why once they seem to be actively working on an order, why the grading stage takes as long as it does. I am specifically referencing an example of one of my pending orders, which is comprised of a grand total of two cards (a higher pricing tier sub). The order has been in the grading stage for a few months now, which makes no sense to me.
@miwlvrn said:
I completely understand long durations from loggage date until they start working on the research stage, and I can be OK with long waits for research too. However, I don't understand why once they seem to be actively working on an order, why the grading stage takes as long as it does. I am specifically referencing an example of one of my pending orders, which is comprised of a grand total of two cards (a higher pricing tier sub). The order has been in the grading stage for a few months now, which makes no sense to me.
Yes, I'd be curious how long it actually takes them to grade each card during the several month period when it shows your order in grading.
@marshallfaulk28@miwlvrn - I suspect "Grading" is just a placeholder for "we have identified your card and it is either waiting to be graded, is being graded or has been graded but is waiting to move to Assembly". The act of actually grading the card is probably a couple of minutes. Problem is, you're #2,047,219 in line. Please wait your turn.
@envoy982 said: @marshallfaulk28@miwlvrn - I suspect "Grading" is just a placeholder for "we have identified your card and it is either waiting to be graded, is being graded or has been graded but is waiting to move to Assembly". The act of actually grading the card is probably a couple of minutes. Problem is, you're #2,047,219 in line. Please wait your turn.
Makes total sense, I am pretty sure there are many orders out there that have been in "grading" for up to 6 months at this point. the longest one I am personally involved with is at 4 months in the grading room
heck i got stuff thats been there since 10/12/20, logged since 1/12/21 and still hasnt even sniffed the grading phase! 7+ months to research ultra modern? and who we fooling, 10+ months really. and not even in grading?
@blurryface said:
heck i got stuff thats been there since 10/12/20, logged since 1/12/21 and still hasnt even sniffed the grading phase! 7+ months to research ultra modern? and who we fooling, 10+ months really. and not even in grading?
Wow, that is really slow. I have a modern bundle tracking very similarly to yours. Arrived on 10/14, logged on 1/14, but grading started on 6/15. My order size is half of yours, but I would think yours should have reached grading by now.
@MarshallFaulk28 said:
Wow, that is really slow. I have a modern bundle tracking very similarly to yours. Arrived on 10/14, logged on 1/14, but grading started on 6/15. My order size is half of yours, but I would think yours should have reached grading by now.
scary thing is i have a quite a few that are like this. none of these have entered grading,..even the ones that arrived 2 weeks prior to the one above:
this is just whats logged in the month of january, no need to even bring up february's orders considering…
@MarshallFaulk28 said:
Wow, that is really slow. I have a modern bundle tracking very similarly to yours. Arrived on 10/14, logged on 1/14, but grading started on 6/15. My order size is half of yours, but I would think yours should have reached grading by now.
scary thing is i have a quite a few that are like this. none of these have entered grading,..even the ones that arrived 2 weeks prior to the one above:
this is just whats logged in the month of january, no need to even bring up february's orders considering…
Wow, that's a lot of orders and cards! They need to assign a dedicated grader to you. Hope at least one of these pops for you soon.
@Kyser said:
Thanks blurry. The guy is fun to watch. I’m way over exposed on Ohtani right now. I need to decide on just one or two to hold.
just went ohtani searching through my open subs. still not entered, but these were very nice surprises. hopefully he stays healthy! i doubt i can just recall the 1/1 cyan plate. would love to have that in hand right about now…
@envoy982 said: @marshallfaulk28@miwlvrn - I suspect "Grading" is just a placeholder for "we have identified your card and it is either waiting to be graded, is being graded or has been graded but is waiting to move to Assembly". The act of actually grading the card is probably a couple of minutes. Problem is, you're #2,047,219 in line. Please wait your turn.
I'm well accustomed to the long wait and know very well to accept it rather than expect sooner results. My orders sent in during June 2020 just popped a couple weeks ago, which seems pretty standard, and I'm hoping to see some movement on my orders that were subbed between July - October 2020 sooner than later. I'm questioning the nomenclature choice of 'grading' for a place holder stage, rather than the actual duration it takes them to grade the items. To call that time period grading seems inaccurate or disingenuous. But I of course realize that it has nothing to do with the actual wait time.
@miwlvrn - It certainly feels a bit misleading. In the good ol' days, we didn't have any kind of "pizza tracker" so I appreciate that. It is frustrating now though because now you have insight into a current status but it has zero correlation to a time context.
@Historicalwood71 said:
Ballpark figure..... How many cards right now in backlog? Still 2 million or 3?
It may be more appropriate to ask if is down below 5 million. If I had to guess, I’d say it’s closer to 6.
Did we ever get a company-line on what the backlog was? I had heard 8mil, 10mil, 13mil but no idea if any of those numbers were official company numbers or just speculation. We can see they are grading 150-190k cards per week and I believe there was a comment in one of the updates they were receiving 3x as many cards as they could grade per day. So, I think you're right, it has to still be several million deep still.
What problems would result if PSA was attacked by RANSOMWARE? do they have a back-up system? How much would they pay and would our prices go up? Just a thought.
@1959 said:
What problems would result if PSA was attacked by RANSOMWARE? do they have a back-up system? How much would they pay and would our prices go up? Just a thought.
i feel my cards are being held for ransom. after nearly a year, i havent even gotten proof of life yet! 😉
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Mailed 2/28
Arrived 3/6 ( this was the week the PO got overwhelmed)
Entered 5/11
Took about 40 business days from order arrival to show entered
Popped on business day 55. This was a 1/1 Elite Die Cut Tom Brady
1 1 XXXXXXX NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2013 Panini Elite 58 Tom Brady Black Status Die-Cut 1/1
This was the "end" of a slew of Regulars. All the rest have been back for weeks.
If yours has been sitting there a while I'd inquire into it. Email the info@pascard.com address
No reason for a 4/9 entered sub to sit there unless some slabs require scanning- which is WAY behind.
Jeff
Almost a year after sending my cards out, the grades have finally popped. Overall not to bad, some boxes that my son and I opened up together.
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 51446474 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Donruss Rookies 38 Bo Jackson Card
2 1 51446475 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Fleer 649 Major League Pros. E.Plunk/J.Canseco Card
3 1 51446476 NEAR MINT 7 1986 Topps Traded 11T Barry Bonds Card
4 1 51446477 EXCELLENT 5 1986 Topps Traded 20T Jose Canseco Card
5 1 51446478 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Topps Traded 20T Jose Canseco Card
6 1 51446479 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Donruss 172 Roger Clemens Card
7 1 51446480 MINT 9 1986 Donruss 33 Andres Galarraga No Accent Mark Card
8 1 51446481 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Donruss 37 Paul O'Neill Card
9 1 51446482 GEM MINT 10 1987 Donruss 97 Jose Canseco Card
10 1 51446483 MINT 9 1987 Donruss 97 Jose Canseco Card
11 1 51446484 MINT 9 1987 Donruss 36 Greg Maddux Card
12 1 51446485 MINT 9 1987 Donruss 361 Barry Bonds Card
13 1 51446486 MINT 9 1987 Topps 320 Barry Bonds Card
14 1 51446487 GEM MINT 10 1987 Topps 320 Barry Bonds Card
15 1 51446488 GEM MINT 10 1987 Topps 320 Barry Bonds Card
16 1 51446489 MINT 9 1987 Topps 320 Barry Bonds Card
17 1 51446490 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Topps 320 Barry Bonds Card
18 1 51446491 MINT 9 1987 Topps 620 Jose Canseco Card
19 1 51446492 MINT 9 1987 Topps 620 Jose Canseco Card
20 1 51446493 GEM MINT 10 1987 Topps 170 Bo Jackson Future Stars Card
21 1 51446494 GEM MINT 10 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card
22 1 51446495 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card
23 1 51446496 MINT 9 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card
24 1 51446497 EXCELLENT 5 1987 Topps 634 Rafael Palmeiro Future Stars Card
25 1 51446498 MINT 9 1987 Topps 300 Reggie Jackson Card
26 1 51446499 MINT 9 1988 Leaf 124 Mike Schmidt Card
27 1 51446500 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Leaf 124 Mike Schmidt Card
28 1 51446501 MINT 9 1988 Leaf 124 Mike Schmidt Card
29 1 51446502 MINT 9 1988 Leaf 40 Mark Grace Card
30 1 51446503 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Leaf 40 Mark Grace Card
31 1 51446504 MINT 9 1988 Leaf 172 Eddie Murray Card
32 1 51446505 MINT 9 1988 Leaf 187 Bo Jackson Card
33 1 51446506 MINT 9 1988 Leaf 187 Bo Jackson Card
34 1 51446507 GEM MINT 10 1988 Leaf 177 Don Mattingly Card
35 1 51446508 MINT 9 1988 Leaf 177 Don Mattingly Card
36 1 51446509 MINT 9 1988 Leaf 177 Don Mattingly Card
37 1 51446510 GEM MINT 10 1988 Leaf 194 Mark McGwire Card
38 1 51446511 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Leaf 113 Barry Bonds Card
39 1 51446512 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Leaf 113 Barry Bonds Card
40 1 51446513 MINT 9 1988 Leaf 34 Roberto Alomar Card
41 1 51446514 EXCELLENT 5 1989 Topps Traded 57T Randy Johnson Card
42 1 51446515 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1989 Topps Traded 41T Ken Griffey Jr. Card
43 1 51446516 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Fleer 616 Bill Ripken FF Error Card
44 1 51446517 MINT 9 1989 Fleer 616 Bill Ripken Black Box Over Error Card
45 1 51446518 NEAR MINT 7 1989 Fleer 381 Randy Johnson Ad Partially Obscured Card
46 1 51446519 NEAR MINT 7 1989 Fleer 381 Randy Johnson Ad Completely Blacked Out Card
47 1 51446520 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Fleer 548 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
48 1 51446521 NEAR MINT 7 1989 Fleer 548 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
49 1 51446522 GEM MINT 10 1989 Bowman 176 Don Mattingly Card
50 1 51446523 MINT 9 1989 Bowman 220 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
51 1 51446524 GEM MINT 10 1989 Bowman 220 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
52 1 51446525 MINT 9 1989 Donruss 42 Randy Johnson Card
53 1 51446526 MINT 9 1989 Donruss 42 Randy Johnson Card
54 1 51446527 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Donruss 42 Randy Johnson Card
55 1 51446528 MINT 9 1989 Donruss 42 Randy Johnson Card
56 1 51446529 MINT 9 1989 Donruss 42 Randy Johnson Card
57 1 51446530 GEM MINT 10 1989 Donruss 42 Randy Johnson Card
58 1 51446531 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Donruss 31 Gary Sheffield Card
59 1 51446532 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Donruss 31 Gary Sheffield Card
60 1 51446533 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Donruss 28 Sandy Alomar Jr. Card
61 1 51446534 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Donruss 28 Sandy Alomar Jr. Card
62 1 51446535 NEAR MINT 7 1989 Donruss 33 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
63 1 51446536 NEAR MINT 7 1989 Donruss 33 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
64 1 51446537 GEM MINT 10 1989 Donruss 91 Jose Canseco Card
65 1 51446538 GEM MINT 10 1989 Donruss 208 Bo Jackson Card
66 1 51446539 GEM MINT 10 1989 Donruss 208 Bo Jackson Card
67 1 51446540 MINT 9 1989 Donruss 31 Gary Sheffield Card
68 1 51446541 MINT 9 1989 Donruss 204 George Brett Card
69 1 51446542 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Donruss 642 John Smoltz Card
70 1 51446543 MINT 9 1989 Donruss 561 Craig Biggio Card
71 1 51446544 MINT 9 1989 Donruss 561 Craig Biggio Card
72 1 51446545 MINT 9 1989 Donruss 245 Rickey Henderson Card
73 1 51446546 GEM MINT 10 1989 Donruss 245 Rickey Henderson Card
74 1 51446547 MINT 9 1989 Donruss 245 Rickey Henderson Card
75 1 51446548 MINT 9 1989 Donruss 635 Curt Schilling Card
76 1 51446549 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Donruss 193 Mike Schmidt Card
77 1 51446550 MINT 9 1989 Donruss 193 Mike Schmidt Card
78 1 51446551 GEM MINT 10 1989 Donruss 95 Mark McGwire Card
79 1 51446552 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1989 Donruss 154 Nolan Ryan Card
80 1 51446553 MINT 9 1990 Upper Deck 466 Larry Walker Card
81 1 51446554 EXCELLENT 5 1990 Upper Deck 156 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
82 1 51446555 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Upper Deck 13 Deion Sanders Star Rookie Card
83 1 51446556 MINT 9 1990 Upper Deck 17 Sammy Sosa Star Rookie Card
84 1 51446557 MINT 9 1990 Upper Deck 24 Ken Griffey Jr. Mariners Checklist Card
85 1 51446558 GEM MINT 10 1990 Upper Deck 54 Ben McDonald Star Rookie Logo Card
86 1 51446559 MINT 9 1990 Upper Deck 544 Nolan Ryan Card
87 1 51446560 GEM MINT 10 1990 Upper Deck 72 Juan Gonzalez Star Rookie Card
88 1 51446561 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1990 Score 663 Frank Thomas Card
89 1 51446562 GEM MINT 10 1990 Topps 757 Larry Walker Card
90 1 51446563 GEM MINT 10 1990 Topps 757 Larry Walker Card
91 1 51446564 MINT 9 1990 Topps 757 Larry Walker Card
92 1 51446565 MINT 9 1990 Topps 757 Larry Walker Card
93 1 51446566 MINT 9 1990 Topps 692 Sammy Sosa Card
94 1 51446567 MINT 9 1990 Topps 692 Sammy Sosa Card
95 1 51446568 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps 336 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
96 1 51446569 MINT 9 1990 Topps 336 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
97 1 51446570 EXCELLENT 5 1990 Topps 336 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
98 1 51446571 MINT 9 1990 Topps 414 Frank Thomas Name on Front Card
99 1 51446572 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps 414 Frank Thomas Name on Front Card
100 1 51446573 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Topps 414 Frank Thomas Name on Front Card
101 1 51446574 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1990 Topps 414 Frank Thomas Name on Front Card
102 1 51446575 MINT 9 1990 Topps 414 Frank Thomas Name on Front Card
103 1 51446576 EXCELLENT 5 1990 Topps 1 Nolan Ryan Card
104 1 51446577 EXCELLENT 5 1990 Topps 1 Nolan Ryan Card
105 1 51446578 MINT 9 1990 Topps 570 Cal Ripken Jr. Card
106 1 51446579 MINT 9 2006 Topps Wal-Mart WM34 Don Mattingly Card
107 1 51446580 NEAR MINT 7 1980 Topps 580 Nolan Ryan Card
108 1 51446581 MINT 9 1989 Bowman 225 Nolan Ryan Card
109 1 51446582 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Fleer 26 Michael Jordan Card
110 1 51446583 MINT 9 1990 Fleer 26 Michael Jordan Card
111 1 51446584 MINT 9 1990 Fleer 30 Scottie Pippen Card
112 1 51446585 MINT 9 1990 Fleer 30 Scottie Pippen Card
113 1 51446586 MINT 9 1990 Fleer 91 Vlade Divac Card
114 1 51446587 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Fleer 139 Charles Barkley Card
115 1 51446588 MINT 9 1990 Fleer 172 David Robinson Card
116 1 51446589 NEAR MINT 7 1990 Fleer 178 Shawn Kemp Card
Vintage Rookies
Not sure I understand the "batch FIFO" plan PSA talks about, but I had 2 Quarterly specials go to Assembly yesterday. One entered on 09/02/20, and the other was 01/13/21. Those batches must be monsters.
Currently collecting.....your guess is as good as mine.
Wow, that’s quite a spread. I had a quarterly special entered after yours on 9/15/20 that completed back on 07/07/21. I have two others entered 11/30/20 and 12/01/20 that are still grading. Their operations are quite a mystery.
@lilmule somebody has good eye for 88 Leafs some nice hits there
Nice sub !
Hope everyone is enjoying the Summer
Havent been on here much because my last two Subs that PSA had didnt look like they were coming out anytime soon. My most recent one I submitted before the shutdown in March was a 6 card Regular Service that arrived 3/11 and wasnt entered until 5/11.
Just by chance the other day I glanced at my account and was shocked to see the 6 Card Regular Sub was in QA2 stage - have no clue as to when it went througha s I wasnt expecting to get them until at earliest end of August.
Well a few minutes ago I get "that email" that stated one of my sub required an upcharge due to one of the cards graded put at a higher level of service. I took a look and replied instantly!
My Sub:
1990 Marvel Universe
Captain America # 1 - PSA 10
Hulk # 3 - PSA 6
Spiderman # 29 - PSA 10
Doctor Strange # 34 - PSA 10
1992 Marvel Masterpieces
Wolverine # 94 - PSA 9
1991 Marvel Universe
Venom - PSA 8
The Spidey # 29 was the only one getting an upcharge and I am definately okay with it as well as the entire sub. Ill have to take a look at the Hulk, for some reason Im missing something on the scans and screening
Anyways its definately nice to expect a sub back soon - that leaves me with a 30 Modern Sub that is in Grading and was Entered in October of last year
Enjoy the weekend!
Explain upcharge and higher level of service. I am not sure what that means. Thanks
After grading the card was deemed more valuable than the maximum declared value of the level of service you selected, therefore PSA is charging you the rate for the service level which the graded value is deemed to be in.
Example: You sent a card with the maximum declared value of $499 at the value level, but it graded a 10 and 10's currently selling for $2500, PSA at their discretion decides to upcharge you to the Express level fee.
not finished but had some pack movement…
‘72 - present
arrived: 1/20/21
entered: 2/02/21
assembly: 7/30/21
100 card value that i had enter on 11/3/20 has just went into QA1 on 7/30/21. I was in assembly for a few weeks so I am unsure I will be stuck here.
Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
should be pretty quick if so, rob. not sure how much the national will put a kink in the chain, but all of my subs that sit in assembly for weeks breeze thru the qas. unless upcharges occur. ones that breeze thru assembly always seem to get stuck in qa2 for a lengthier time.
71 Card Value 2 Modern entered on 11/02 has shipped after sitting in assembly for about a week.
Welcome to the boards Czone. How were the grades? What you expected? How long did it take when they moved to grading? I have a quarterly special that was sent in early December and entered 2 months later moved to grading last week. Much earlier than I expected.
Where these recent pack or set pulls or cards you had for years ?
Hi Shawther, thanks for the greeting and thanks to you and everyone on here that so generously shares information. I started collecting in 1968 but have not been active since 2010 until Covid. I have a lot of catching up to do.
My order sat in Grading for several months. As far as the grades, Apparently I forgot how to grade in the last several months. It was embarrassingly bad. I've never had anything like it. I'm looking forward to receiving the cards back and see if I was drinking during my submission or if I just had bad luck on my grader(s). Most everything was one full grade below expectations.
Best grade was a 1988 Fleer Jordan All Star graded 9. A better example would be my 9 1988 Fleer Rodmans where I received 4 8s, 3 7s, a 6 and a 5. My 7 1978 Bernard Kings were worse: 1 7, 1 6 and 5 5s.
I don't pretend to be a good grader but I never missed so bad on any previous submissions. Hope you guys do better!
I have a couple submissions of the 88 Fleer set as well. I know that centering and fish eyes are a big issue with the set. I divided up those into 2 different subs. Expecting 8’s and 9’s and hopefully a couple 10’s on the one submission. Expecting grades of 7 though 10 on the other with most of the non rookies being in the 9 range. I am curious to what you think when you get them in hand.
These were pulled from some unopened boxes that my son and I have acquired over time and just decided to open them.
Vintage Rookies
1 card, regular (dual service)
arrived: 2/24/21
entered: 3/31/21
popped: 8/1/21
1 1 57200732 1981 Topps 4 Larry Bird NEAR MINT 7 - Auto Grade: MINT 9
notes: a bit absurd on every stage. regular service. 1.25 months to log. 5 months to grade. had card pegged at an 8 minimum. but the 6+ month process on a regular service level just to get kicked square in the (blank) is literally the kicker. hopefully this one gets lost in the mail too.
I’m pretty sure having collected for so long that you didn’t suddenly forget how to grade. There have just been too many cases from people on here of getting worse grades than they used to receive. PSA seems to be really tough on grades now. It doesn’t even make sense to me why they would go that direction. It not only results in fewer chances to up charge, but people are not going to want to grade as many cards if they are going to get disappointing grades returned. PSA just needs to be realistic with their grading and more importantly be consistent with how they’ve graded in the past.
I just had an express grade pop and tracking hit (tracking not active)...how long does it normally take the certification link to be active? Would have thought this would be a go once it hit shipping....only been a couple of hours, but just checking to make sure I don't have to go back through PSA if they didn't properly assign it in the database with pics. TIA
FYI to the above post...$200 express service. Received 7/16, grade popped 8/3
Took my most recent sub a few days, maybe a week since I stopped checking after a few days. But they are showing now and they shipped Jul 23.
Regular after price increase.
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DATE RECEIVED
5/12/2021
DATE SHIPPED
8/2/2021
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 62122064 NEAR MINT 7 1987 Fleer 59 Michael Jordan Card
2 1 62122065 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1998 Topps Gold Label GL3 Kobe Bryant Black Label Card
3 1 62122066 GEM MINT 10 2020 Panini Prizm Draft Picks 3 LaMelo Ball Silver Prizm Card
4 1 62122067 GEM MINT 10 2020 Panini Prizm Draft Picks 3 LaMelo Ball Silver Prizm Card
5 1 62122068 MINT 9 2012 Topps Chrome 220 Tom Brady Blue Refractor Card
6 1 62122069 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2004 Topps Chrome 154 Tom Brady Refractor Card
7 1 62122070 MINT 9 2006 Topps Chrome 106 Tom Brady Black Refractor Card
8 1 62122071 MINT 9 2000 Pacific Paramount 138 Tom Brady Card
9 1 62122072 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2000 Upper Deck 254 Tom Brady Card
10 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1977 Star Wars 1 Luke Skywalker Card
11 1 62122074 NEAR MINT 7 1977 Star Wars 5 Princess Leia Organa Card
12 1 62122075 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1977 Star Wars 42 Stormtroopers Attack! Card
13 1 62122076 EXCELLENT 5 1977 Star Wars Stickers 1 Luke Skywalker Card
14 1 62122077 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1977 Star Wars Stickers 4 Chewbacca the Wookiee Card
Express:
DATE RECEIVED
7/14/2021
DATE SHIPPED
8/2/2021
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 63182196 GEM MINT 10 2017 Bowman Mega Box Chrome Prospects BCP31 Shohei Otani Card
2 1 63182197 GEM MINT 10 2017 Bowman Mega Box Chrome Prospects BCP31 Shohei Otani Card
3 1 63182198 GEM MINT 10 2018 Topps Chrome 150 Shohei Ohtani Pitching-Sepia Refractor Card
4 1 63182199 GEM MINT 10 2018 Topps Chrome 150 Shohei Ohtani Pitching-Prism Refractor Card
5 1 63182200 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2007 Upper Deck All-Star Die-Cuts As-9 LeBron James Card
great timing around ohtani. if he can get anywhere near the 62 mark, things will get crazier than what happened leading up to the all star game.
Thanks blurry. The guy is fun to watch. I’m way over exposed on Ohtani right now. I need to decide on just one or two to hold.
cant blame ya there. with the lack of run support and previous arm injuries, i would hold batting cards vs pitching cards.
7 card regular sub.
Rec'd 2/22/21
Entered 4/7/21
Grading 6/4/21
Assembly & QA1 today (8/3/21)
By comparison, SGC 15 card regular sub sent 7/15. entered 7/21, post-grade-processing today (8/3). Should see grades tonight or tomorrow. It's a small sample of 2020 select & mosaic Herbert/Burrow/Tua type stuff. Nothing high end. A couple with minor flaws I wanted to see how they would grade some flaws ie (small dent on back or front, minor surface scratch/lines common to the issues). I'm expecting ~10 gems and the rest 8-9's but really don't know how they downgrade for the flaws so it was $30 for each one to get the education.
7 card regular sub.
Rec'd 2/22/21
Entered 4/7/21
Grading 6/4/21
Assembly & QA1 today (8/3/21)
QA2 this morning (8/4)
I completely understand long durations from loggage date until they start working on the research stage, and I can be OK with long waits for research too. However, I don't understand why once they seem to be actively working on an order, why the grading stage takes as long as it does. I am specifically referencing an example of one of my pending orders, which is comprised of a grand total of two cards (a higher pricing tier sub). The order has been in the grading stage for a few months now, which makes no sense to me.
Yes, I'd be curious how long it actually takes them to grade each card during the several month period when it shows your order in grading.
@marshallfaulk28 @miwlvrn - I suspect "Grading" is just a placeholder for "we have identified your card and it is either waiting to be graded, is being graded or has been graded but is waiting to move to Assembly". The act of actually grading the card is probably a couple of minutes. Problem is, you're #2,047,219 in line. Please wait your turn.
Makes total sense, I am pretty sure there are many orders out there that have been in "grading" for up to 6 months at this point. the longest one I am personally involved with is at 4 months in the grading room
heck i got stuff thats been there since 10/12/20, logged since 1/12/21 and still hasnt even sniffed the grading phase! 7+ months to research ultra modern? and who we fooling, 10+ months really. and not even in grading?
Wow, that is really slow. I have a modern bundle tracking very similarly to yours. Arrived on 10/14, logged on 1/14, but grading started on 6/15. My order size is half of yours, but I would think yours should have reached grading by now.
Ballpark figure..... How many cards right now in backlog? Still 2 million or 3?
scary thing is i have a quite a few that are like this. none of these have entered grading,..even the ones that arrived 2 weeks prior to the one above:
this is just whats logged in the month of january, no need to even bring up february's orders considering…
Wow, that's a lot of orders and cards! They need to assign a dedicated grader to you.
Hope at least one of these pops for you soon.
What does "Deal" service level mean?
im assuming its short for “whats the deal? why is this taking so long?”. 😉
just went ohtani searching through my open subs. still not entered, but these were very nice surprises. hopefully he stays healthy! i doubt i can just recall the 1/1 cyan plate. would love to have that in hand right about now…
All those are nice ohtani’s I want one of the 700 golds. He looked good pitching last night.
I'm well accustomed to the long wait and know very well to accept it rather than expect sooner results. My orders sent in during June 2020 just popped a couple weeks ago, which seems pretty standard, and I'm hoping to see some movement on my orders that were subbed between July - October 2020 sooner than later. I'm questioning the nomenclature choice of 'grading' for a place holder stage, rather than the actual duration it takes them to grade the items. To call that time period grading seems inaccurate or disingenuous. But I of course realize that it has nothing to do with the actual wait time.
@miwlvrn - It certainly feels a bit misleading. In the good ol' days, we didn't have any kind of "pizza tracker" so I appreciate that. It is frustrating now though because now you have insight into a current status but it has zero correlation to a time context.
It may be more appropriate to ask if is down below 5 million. If I had to guess, I’d say it’s closer to 6.
Did we ever get a company-line on what the backlog was? I had heard 8mil, 10mil, 13mil but no idea if any of those numbers were official company numbers or just speculation. We can see they are grading 150-190k cards per week and I believe there was a comment in one of the updates they were receiving 3x as many cards as they could grade per day. So, I think you're right, it has to still be several million deep still.
Enhanced 'pizza tracker' for my recent Value Modern, 125 card, 311 day submission. Red dots indicate the day activity likely happened ...
What problems would result if PSA was attacked by RANSOMWARE? do they have a back-up system? How much would they pay and would our prices go up? Just a thought.
i feel my cards are being held for ransom. after nearly a year, i havent even gotten proof of life yet! 😉
Single card express:
received: 7/19
entered: 7/20
shipped: 8/5
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06