@76collector said:
My 76 grades just popped. Sent in July of last year, received in sep. I feel like an 18 year old again, with the possible acceptance letter to my top college of choice in my hand. Nervous to open it, lol. Here goes nothing... Will post grades later.
Next I'd like to post some pictures of what were some of the best cards in the set
My expected grade are in parenthesis.
1 1 49824824 MINT 9 1985 Fleer 335 Dale Murphy Card (10)
2 1 49824825 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 240 Nolan Ryan Card (10)
3 1 49824826 MINT 9 1981 Topps 254 Ozzie Smith Card (10)
4 1 49824827 NEAR MINT 7 1981 Topps 479 Expos Future Stars T.Raines/R.Ramos/B.Pate Card (8)
5 1 49824828 EXCELLENT 5 1981 Topps 479 Expos Future Stars T.Raines/R.Ramos/B.Pate Card (7)
6 1 49824829 NEAR MINT 7 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card (10)
7 1 49824830 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Topps 170 Bo Jackson Future Stars Card (10)
8 1 49824831 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1987 Topps 200 Pete Rose Card (10)
9 1 49824832 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 Donruss 61 Pete Rose Card (10)
10 1 49824833 MINT 9 1984 Donruss 68 Darryl Strawberry Card (9)
11 1 49824834 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 Donruss 66 Dale Murphy Card (10)
12 1 49824835 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 Donruss 302 Carlton Fisk Card (10)
13 1 49824836 MINT 9 1984 Donruss 355 Joe Morgan Card (10)
14 1 49824837 MINT 9 2013 Topps Chrome 78 Nolan Arenado Refractor Card (10)
15 1 49824838 MINT 9 2013 Bowman 136 Derek Jeter Gold Card (10)
16 1 49824839 EXCELLENT 5 1985 Topps 600 Pete Rose Card (10)
17 1 49824840 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1977 Topps 144 Bruce Sutter Card (8)
18 1 49824841 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1972 Topps 411 Bob Montgomery Card (8)
19 1 49824842 NEAR MINT 7 1986 Topps Traded 24T Will Clark Card (10)
20 1 49824843 MINT 9 1976 Topps 64 Jerry Koosman Card (10)
21 1 49824844 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1976 Topps 294 Ed Kirkpatrick Card (10)
22 1 49824845 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 70 Father & Son R.Smalley/R.Smalley Jr. Card (10)
23 1 49824846 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 68 Father & Son J.Coleman/J.Coleman Jr. Card (10)
24 1 49824847 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 284 Steve Ontiveros Card (10)
25 1 49824848 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 381 Denny Doyle Card (10)
26 1 49824849 MINT 9 1976 Topps 431 Dick Ruthven Card (10)
27 1 49824850 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 319 Larry Gura Card (10)
28 1 49824851 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 142 Dick Drago Card (10)
29 1 49824852 MINT 9 1976 Topps 275 Rick Manning Card (10)
30 1 49824853 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 292 Leon Roberts Card (10)
31 1 49824854 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 386 Ed Goodson Card (10)
32 1 49824855 MINT 9 1976 Topps 338 Bob Bailey Card (10)
33 1 49824856 MINT 9 1976 Topps 336 Vic Albury Card (10)
34 1 49824857 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 391 Jerry Hairston Card (10)
35 1 49824858 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 293 Bill Castro Card (10)
36 1 49824859 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 394 Fran Healy Card (10)
37 1 49824860 MINT 9 1976 Topps 25 Mike Torrez Card (10)
38 1 49824861 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 326 Dick Pole Card (10)
39 1 49824862 MINT 9 1976 Topps 412 Toby Harrah Card (10)
40 1 49824863 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 406 Ed Herrmann Card (10)
41 1 49824864 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1976 Topps 305 Andy Messersmith Card (10)
42 1 49824865 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 329 Joe Ferguson Card (10)
43 1 49824866 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 401 Ken Brett Card (10)
44 1 49824867 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 398 Dave Tomlin Card (10)
45 1 49824868 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 369 Frank White Card (10)
46 1 49824869 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 370 Ron Cey Card (10)
47 1 49824870 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 599 Rookie Pitchers Card (10)
48 1 49824871 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 380 Bobby Bonds Card (10)
49 1 49824872 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 300 Johnny Bench Card (9)
50 1 49824873 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 343 Pie Traynor All Time All-Star Card (10)
51 1 49824874 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 250 Fergie Jenkins Card (10)
52 1 49824875 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 441 Gary Carter All-Star Rookie Card (8)
53 1 49824876 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 400 Rod Carew Card (8)
54 1 49824877 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 100 Jim Hunter Card (10)
55 1 49824878 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 316 Robin Yount Card (9)
56 1 49824879 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1976 Topps 240 Pete Rose Card (8)
57 1 49824880 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 270 Willie Stargell Card 9)
58 1 49824881 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 420 Joe Morgan Card (10)
59 1 49824882 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 340 Jim Rice Card (10)
60 1 49824883 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 520 Willie McCovey Card (9)
61 1 49824884 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 325 Tony Perez Card (10)
62 1 49824885 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 450 Jim Palmer Card (9)
63 1 49824886 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 10 Lou Brock Card (9)
64 1 49824887 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 405 Rollie Fingers Card (10)
65 1 49824888 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 242 Dan Meyer Card (10)
66 1 49824889 GEM MINT 10 1976 Topps 274 Tommy Harper Card (10)
67 1 49824890 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 209 Alan Ashby Card (10)
68 1 49824891 GEM MINT 10 1976 Topps 371 Ellie Hendricks Card (10)
69 1 49824892 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 424 Phil Roof Card (10)
70 1 49824893 MINT 9 1976 Topps 282 Dan Osborn Card (10)
71 1 49824894 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 273 Joe Niekro Card (9)
72 1 49824895 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 286 Jim Wohlford Card (10)
73 1 49824896 MINT 9 1976 Topps 344 Honus Wagner All Time All-Star Card (10)
74 1 49824897 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 349 Walter Johnson All Time All-Star Card (10)
75 1 49824898 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 566 Ken McMullen Card (10)
76 1 49824899 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 547 Roric Harrison Card (10)
77 1 49824900 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 568 Rob Andrews Card (10)
78 1 49824901 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 532 Milt May Card (10)
79 1 49824902 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 510 Amos Otis Card (10)
80 1 49824903 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 194 AL Home Run Leaders Jackson/Scott/Mayberry Card (10)
81 1 49824904 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 192 AL Batting Leaders R.Carew/F.Lynn/T.Munson Card (10)
82 1 49824905 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 197 NL Stolen Base Ldrs D.Lopes/J.Morgan/L.Brock Card (10)
83 1 49824906 MINT 9 1976 Topps 377 Mike Hegan Card (10)
84 1 49824907 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 311 Cookie Rojas Card (10)
85 1 49824908 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 297 Roger Metzger Card (10)
86 1 49824909 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 151 Bill Bonham Card (10)
87 1 49824910 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 567 George Stone Card (10)
88 1 49824911 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 418 Jose Morales Card (10)
89 1 49824912 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 413 Pete Varney Card (10)
90 1 49824913 MINT 9 1976 Topps 444 Gary Nolan Card (10)
91 1 49824914 MINT 9 1976 Topps 457 Ed Crosby Card (10)
92 1 49824915 MINT 9 1976 Topps 466 Bob Stinson Card (10)
93 1 49824916 MINT 9 1976 Topps 494 Craig Swan Card (10)
94 1 49824917 MINT 9 1976 Topps 516 Wayne Granger Card (10)
95 1 49824918 MINT 9 1976 Topps 492 Marty Pattin Card (10)
96 1 49824919 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 415 Vada Pinson Card (10)
97 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1976 Topps 509 Bill Hands Card (10)
98 1 49824921 MINT 9 1976 Topps 551 Jerry DaVanon Card (10)
99 1 49824922 MINT 9 1976 Topps 483 Mickey Stanley Card (10)
100 1 49824923 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 498 Glenn Borgmann Card (10)
101 1 49824924 MINT 9 1976 Topps 528 Dock Ellis Card (10)
102 1 49824925 MINT 9 1976 Topps 493 Derrel Thomas Card (10)
Looks like I too have succumbed to age, and no longer have the ability to accurately predict the grade of a card. I have went from the ability to predict a gem mint 10 70's card at about 10-15% accuracy over the last 15 years down to 1.9% accuracy now. I always mix in a dud or two, so I don't worry about that. In 25 years of collecting 70's cards I've never come across a nicer lot than what I sent in. I've built 1976 sets by combining upwards of 15 sets, opening rack packs/wax packs and cello's and this set alone was as nice or nicer than the combination of those 15 high end sets. If there were truly only 2 gem mint 10's in that lot, then it is beyond worthless for me to ever buy cards with the intent on submitting them, because I have zero idea what a gem mint 10 card is, hell I don't even know what a mint card is any more. NOT 1, NOT even 1 of the 1976 hall of fame players I sent came back a 9, when I felt the Morgan, Rice and Perez all had VERY good shots at gemming. 10 months of time having my money/cards tied up and I believe I would have to sell every single card just to recoup my thousand dollars worth of grading fees if I chose to. The good news is I'm now the owner of a $3K 1976 set with one of the top 23 ellie hendricks and tommy harper cards in the world, so I'm very proud of that (sarcasm being poured on thick)
Jeff
I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid. Collecting: post world war II HOF rookie 76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals) successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
Wow Jeff, my condolences. What a kick in the teeth.
From the scans, I would have said the Joe Morgan and Willie McCovey cards were equal or better than the Tommy Harper. If PSA thinks this is going to go well for them in the long term, then they should start reading these threads from long time customers. Driving off well respected and knowledgable registry collectors and anyone who collects vintage will leave them to the boom and bust of shiny modern subs.
I couldn't even finish looking through the grades, as seeing those minty fresh ungraded cards and matching them with 7's and 6's was too much.
@Frozencaribou said:
Wow Jeff, my condolences. What a kick in the teeth.
From the scans, I would have said the Joe Morgan and Willie McCovey cards were equal or better than the Tommy Harper. If PSA thinks this is going to go well for them in the long term, then they should start reading these threads from long time customers. Driving off well respected and knowledgable registry collectors and anyone who collects vintage will leave them to the boom and bust of shiny modern subs.
I couldn't even finish looking through the grades, as seeing those minty fresh ungraded cards and matching them with 7's and 6's was too much.
That is what makes it so irritating to me. If I could wrap my head around what they are thinking (MAYBE GIVE US SOME GRADER NOTES) maybe I could understand. But I agree there was nothing I saw that distinguishes the Tommy Harper card from virtually any of the others. Sure when I get it in hand, maybe I can see some flaws on some of the other cards. But they have had my cards so long I really don't remember what they looked like other than the pictures, and that I was SUPER excited about the Morgan card especially. Here is another picture. The Varney and Morales are both 8's as well and show nicer than the Harper card IMO.
I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid. Collecting: post world war II HOF rookie 76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals) successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
Ok, my first big lot just came in an email with some up charges !!!
Here they are!! Happy to finally get them back.
Zion Williamson 2019-2020 Optic RC #158 PSA 9
Zion Williamson 2019-2020 Prizm Pink #248 PSA 8
Zion Williamson 2019-2020 Prizm RWB #248 PSA 8
Zion Williamson 2019-2020 PRIZM BASE #248 PSA 9
Zion Williamson 2019-2020 PRIZM BASE #248 PSA 10
Ja Morant 2019-2020 Prizm base #249 PSA 10
Ja Morant 2019-2020 Prizm SILVER #249 PSA 10
Ja Morant 2019-2020 Prizm Cracked Pink #249 PSA 8
Ja Morant 2019-2020 Prizm RWB #249 PSA 8
Michael Porter Jr 2018-19 Chronicles Red/149 #508 PSA 9
Michael Porter JR 2019-2020 PRIZM SILVER PSA 9
Michael Porter Jr 2018-2019 Prizm red wave RC. PSA 9
Luka Doncic 2018-19 Prizm RC #280 PSA 10
Luka Doncic 2018-19 Prizm RC #280 PSA 9
Luka Doncic 2018-19 DONRUSS SIGNIFICANT SIGNATURES PSA 9
Luka Doncic 2018-19 Select Concourse #25 RC PSA 9
Luka Doncic 2018-19 Obsidian Silver #571 PSA 8
Luka Doncic 2018-19 Threads #141 PSA 10
Luka Doncic 2018-19 NBA Hoops #268 PSA 9
Luka Doncic 2019-2020 NBA Hoops High Voltage #9 PSA 10
Luka Doncic 2019-20 Mosaic Reactive Blue Prizm #44 PSA 10
Luka Doncic 2018-19 Optic Rated Rookie #177 PSA 10
Luka Doncic 2019-2020 Optic Blue Velocity #16 PSA 10
Luka Doncic 2018-2019 Chronicles Pink RC #71 PSA 10
Luka Doncic 2019-2020 Optic Hyper Pink #16 PSA 10
Luka Doncic 2019-2020 Optic Hyper Pink #16 PSA 10
Luka Doncic 2019-2020 Optic Purple #16 PSA 10
Your sub results just anger me. There is no reason for that type of return. I wish one person at PSA with the ability to effect a positive change would look at these boards and read through this thread. Just absolutely an abomination to do something like this
@Frozencaribou said:
Wow Jeff, my condolences. What a kick in the teeth.
From the scans, I would have said the Joe Morgan and Willie McCovey cards were equal or better than the Tommy Harper. If PSA thinks this is going to go well for them in the long term, then they should start reading these threads from long time customers. Driving off well respected and knowledgable registry collectors and anyone who collects vintage will leave them to the boom and bust of shiny modern subs.
I couldn't even finish looking through the grades, as seeing those minty fresh ungraded cards and matching them with 7's and 6's was too much.
thats the thing though. this type of sub isnt just happening w vintage. its happening across the board.
what happens when theyve expanded, buy out sgc perhaps, sunk tons of money into training personnel and IT, the flippers flee and theyve run off loyal guys from every subbing era w this [expletive delete] and/or price points? weve seen plenty of good peeps here alone getting pushed to their own personal breaking points just this week. and this isnt exactly midtown manhattan when it comes to the on line collecting world. how many more months of backlogs and gut punches are left at this pace? i have a nice stack of cards that’d be ready to sub at the current $300 level. even more at the $150 and even $50 level. no way im subbing them anytime soon even if they opened up tomorrow. i can put up w the price increases & the crazy delays but i refuse to pay and wait months on end just to get insulted. because thats basically what it is. a good old fashion slap to the face. nothing more. nothing less.
and here’s the scary thing, i havent looked at the CTD but my sub history and calculations, we are just getting into that huge sept/oct bottlenecking influx. so if they are just flying thru and 9’n things to death in a mad scramble to tackle the mountain, things are gonna get a whole lot slower and worse.
Is there a way to request a review of a small subset of your submission before they are shipped back ?
Jeff
I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid. Collecting: post world war II HOF rookie 76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals) successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
Thanks blurry. Sad, because I will never send them back and pay more for review. The vast majority will be shattered upon arrival and just stuck into my binder with the rest of the set that I didn't deem worthy of grading.
I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid. Collecting: post world war II HOF rookie 76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals) successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
Thanks blurry. Sad, because I will never send them back and pay more for review. The vast majority will be shattered upon arrival and just stuck into my binder with the rest of the set that I didn't deem worthy of grading.
yep. know the feeling. never have i ever requested such until that last herro sub. i certainly didnt want to burn my big bridges w this modern sub so just emailed the info@ email and thats what i got back.
ive been conversing privately w kevin (genamint founder) and tagged him above. he’s been very receptive which is reassuring. will bring it up next time we speak as just another sound example.
Sorry to see that Jeff. You had a lot of 10 predictions in there but, as you said, you were only expecting 10% of those to hit. Your grader was probably blinded by refractors when he got your order and none of your cards met 21st century technology expectations. PSA has to be very careful here. Mass overgrading of cards (think BCCG/Pro) can destroy a brand but so can mass undergrading damage the brand. Both impact the brand's credibility.
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My 76 grades just popped. Sent in July of last year, received in sep.
That's just plain ridiculous, I'm sorry. Pretty much nothing in terms of an update in relation to progress being made which tells me that there isn't anything to be proud of enough to speak of it. I'm hoping that I'm simply misinformed and that there are 300k cards shooting through there everyday. I'm not even that pressed for it but for having been shut down for 2 months only to find progress actually slowing is inexcusable
Though it can be quite expensive, there's always the option to send a few of the more perplexing undergraded cards to a service that offers subgrades - just to get a more detailed review.
Just like everyone here, I consider PSA the top grading service, but I've never understood why services that offer MORE information about a card's grade - especially since detailed grading notes seem to be in demand - are often held in such low regard compared to PSA.
@gemint said:
Sorry to see that Jeff. You had a lot of 10 predictions in there but, as you said, you were only expecting 10% of those to hit. Your grader was probably blinded by refractors when he got your order
Definitely should preface those (10) predictions with what you mentioned. I went through the set and stacked cards that were centered well enough to sub. Then I go through them quickly for flaws and make an additional stack. That yielded around 200 cards. At that point I get out the magnifying glasses and look at each in much more detail. If I don’t think a 76 common has a chance at a 10 I won’t bother submitting it. That process has yielded a success rate of between 10-15% on 70’s cards over the last 15 years I’ve been submitting. So I just put 10 by every common though history told me most of them wouldn’t get a 10. Only getting 2 was a shock to the system as I don’t believe I’ve ever had that low of a success rate and these were even higher end than most of my past submissions.
Here is an example of one of my subs from 2017. This is an average sub. They all look like this in the past, I just chose this because it's 50 cards so easy to see percentages.
1 1 27196687 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1993 SP 279 Derek Jeter Foil Card
2 1 27196688 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1976 Topps 355 Steve Carlton Card
3 1 27196689 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1976 Topps 330 Nolan Ryan Card
4 1 27196690 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1976 Topps 300 Johnny Bench Card
5 1 27196691 EXCELLENT 5 1976 Topps 655 Mike Vail Card
6 1 27196692 MINT 9 1976 Topps 273 Joe Niekro Card
7 1 27196693 MINT 9 1976 Topps 235 Bert Blyleven Card
8 1 27196694 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 325 Tony Perez Card
9 1 27196695 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 347 Ted Williams All Time All-Star Card
10 1 27196696 GEM MINT 10 1976 Topps 318 Bob Boone Card
11 1 27196697 MINT 9 1976 Topps 509 Bill Hands Card
12 1 27196698 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 531 Mets Team Card
13 1 27196699 MINT 9 1978 Topps 188 Al Bumbry Card
14 1 27196700 MINT 9 1978 Topps 682 Ken Brett Card
15 1 27196701 GEM MINT 10 1978 Topps 315 Mark Belanger Card
16 1 27196702 MINT 9 1978 Topps 422 Steve Braun Card
17 1 27196703 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 Topps 500 George Foster Card
18 1 27196704 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 2003 Topps 221 LeBron James Collection Card
19 1 27196705 MINT 9 2010 Bowman Chrome Prospects BCP91 Nolan Arenado Blue Refractor Card
20 1 27196706 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Topps 100 Nolan Ryan Card
21 1 27196707 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 Topps 708 Rookie Catchers Card
22 1 27196708 NEAR MINT 7 1978 Topps 100 George Brett Card
23 1 27196709 MINT 9 1978 Topps 604 Earl Williams Card
24 1 27196710 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 Topps 60 Thurman Munson Card
25 1 27196711 MINT 9 1978 Topps 270 Carlton Fisk Card
26 1 27196712 MINT 9 1978 Topps 200 Reggie Jackson Card
27 1 27196713 GEM MINT 10 1978 Topps 510 Willie Stargell Card
28 1 27196714 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 Topps 400 Nolan Ryan Card
29 1 27196715 MINT 9 1978 Topps 170 Lou Brock Card
30 1 27196716 GEM MINT 10 1978 Topps 160 Jim Palmer Card
31 1 27196717 NEAR MINT 7 1978 Topps 707 Rookie Shortstops Card
32 1 27196718 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1978 Topps 36 Eddie Murray Card
33 1 27196719 MINT 9 1978 Topps 175 Jerry Morales Card
34 1 27196720 MINT 9 1978 Topps 98 Jim Essian Card
35 1 27196721 MINT 9 1978 Topps 247 Larry Christenson Card
36 1 27196722 GEM MINT 10 1978 Topps 238 Juan Beniquez Card
37 1 27196723 MINT 9 1978 Topps 672 Don Kessinger Card
38 1 27196724 MINT 9 1978 Topps 611 Pat Scanlon Card
39 1 27196725 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1978 Topps 641 Doug Rau Card
40 1 27196726 MINT 9 1978 Topps 242 Barry Bonnell Card
41 1 27196727 MINT 9 1978 Topps 223 Bruce Kison Card
42 1 27196728 NEAR MINT 7 1978 Topps 330 Bob Watson Card
43 1 27196729 MINT 9 1978 Topps 219 Mike Cubbage Card
44 1 27196730 MINT 9 1978 Topps 663 Paul Reuschel Card
45 1 27196731 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 Topps 244 Expos Team Card
46 1 27196732 GEM MINT 10 1978 Topps 309 Cliff Johnson Card
47 1 27196733 GEM MINT 10 1978 Topps 692 Ken Reitz Card
48 1 27196734 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1978 Topps 703 Rookie Pitchers Card
49 1 27196735 NEAR MINT 7 1978 Topps 620 Willie Randolph Card
50 1 27196736 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 Topps 72 Andre Dawson Card
Jeff
I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid. Collecting: post world war II HOF rookie 76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals) successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
You do a lot better than I do on 10s. I typically get 3-5 per 500 card sub. That tracks with the overall success rate of vintage 10s as a % of overall submissions. Based on their tighter standards, I expect to go down to 1 10 per 500 if I'm lucky and from 50-75 9's per 500 down to 15-20, again if I'm lucky. Same quality cards but lower grade distribution. I'm glad I'm not a dealer trying to make a living at this or it would put me out of business with that kind of drop in grades.
Just had this one move to assembly, 6 card with an array of vintage and a 1985 Nike Jordan. Also had a regular sub that was logged 4/13/21 go into grading which blows my mind since the dual grading bulk sub is still in r&d.
Generally when I first see sub results I react with irritation, some curse words, a few choice adjectives about parentage etc. I then go ask the wife if she wants comfort food and I leave and get it. Afterwards I stew for a bit, chill, and come back and see if I missed something
I'm viewing it quickly at lunch but I'll make a quick remark on the below four. I could pick more but don't have much time during my break- my opinion of these of course just an "opinion" =
57 1 49824880 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 270 Willie Stargell Card 9)
59 1 49824882 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 340 Jim Rice Card (10)
65 1 49824888 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 242 Dan Meyer Card (10)
67 1 49824890 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 209 Alan Ashby Card (10)
Fish eyes on a card disqualifies any card from getting a 10. And a 9 most times. Has to be very minor or stick somewhere where it will not detract visually from eye appeal.
Print marks of any type also will cause immediate lowering
Look at the S in Tigers name on Meyer, and on Alan Ashby by his first name. Printing flaws = eye appeal lowering.
Could be more scans don't show.
On the Harper quick note- deeper hues would have brought that up. Merely look at the depth of color and clarity on the Stargell -and compare it to the Harper. Darker green/yellow- I can see that one highly graded.
Opinion only of course--quick viewing during lunch. Those are quality cards and coming from a raw set that looks great- can see why they were subbed.
On another note-- my three May 30th bulk tiers shot from grading to QA1 as did the personal sub below-this sub below is the "latest" dated of the June subs that moved to QA1. Had almost every June 2020 tier and personal bulk have some type of movement. Seems they are attacking Modern June 2020 this week.
Also had movement on some 2021 re-slab special subs as well into Assembly.
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@jeffv96masters said:
Generally when I first see sub results I react with irritation, some curse words, a few choice adjectives about parentage etc. I then go ask the wife if she wants comfort food and I leave and get it. Afterwards I stew for a bit, chill, and come back and see if I missed something
I'm viewing it quickly at lunch but I'll make a quick remark on the below four. I could pick more but don't have much time during my break- my opinion of these of course just an "opinion" =
57 1 49824880 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 270 Willie Stargell Card 9)
59 1 49824882 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 340 Jim Rice Card (10)
65 1 49824888 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 242 Dan Meyer Card (10)
67 1 49824890 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 209 Alan Ashby Card (10)
Fish eyes on a card disqualifies any card from getting a 10. And a 9 most times. Has to be very minor or stick somewhere where it will not detract visually from eye appeal.
Print marks of any type also will cause immediate lowering
Look at the S in Tigers name on Meyer, and on Alan Ashby by his first name. Printing flaws = eye appeal lowering.
Could be more scans don't show.
On the Harper quick note- deeper hues would have brought that up. Merely look at the depth of color and clarity on the Stargell -and compare it to the Harper. Darker green/yellow- I can see that one highly graded.
Opinion only of course--quick viewing during lunch. Those are quality cards and coming from a raw set that looks great- can see why they were subbed.
Hey Jeff, thanks for you comments. I agree on the fisheye after Stargell's name. I knew that would keep it from a 10 but never imagined it would drop it to a 7. I subbed it because everything else was perfect IMO. As for printing i can find countless examples of 76's and really any 70's or 80's cards that are sitting in 9 holders with printing issues. If I looked I'm betting I could even find some 10's with slight printing imperfections. I'm glad this was just a quick look at lunch from you, because I think you hit on my point with your comment about the Harper. "deeper hues would have brought that up" Brought that up to what ? An 11 ? That is one of the 2 gem mint 10's I got, and why I remain perplexed. When I look at the Harper card in the images vs the Stargell I feel like the colors/gloss are much stronger on the Stargell and it ended up in a 7. To be honest it's just a matter of wanting to understand more so than being upset. When I get the cards in hand I will compare the 2 10's to everything else so I can try and spot what the graders felt were the weaknesses, especially in the Morgan and the Perez because I could find no weaknesses in them and they didn't even 9. It's my personal opinion that standards have changed, and they are being much more picky on big cards and cards of hall of famers. I'd love to see examples of people landing 10's on pre 1980 hall of famer cards. That would ease my mind a little at least.
Jeff
I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid. Collecting: post world war II HOF rookie 76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals) successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
@76collector said:
My 76 grades just popped. Sent in July of last year, received in sep. I feel like an 18 year old again, with the possible acceptance letter to my top college of choice in my hand. Nervous to open it, lol. Here goes nothing... Will post grades later.
@76collector yeah understood on wanting to understand grades. It may be my 8 yr old phone but Stargell appears also to have chipping left edge and that eye appeal fish eye. Check that left edge when it comes back.
@OneDaysRide said:
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Nice work on this...
...and I especially appreciate your moving CC vouchers to the absolute bottom of the list.
Do you think - if I called you later - that you could also tell me that that’s where’s it’s always been and that it wasn’t ever listed right there with regular turnaround times?
Curious about the rare, mysterious and beautiful 1951 Wheaties Premium Photos?
It is discouraging to say the least that quarterly specials haven't moved. Mine is so old, it is actually a MONTHLY special back then. The fact that it is almost taking a year is really heartbreaking.
@gemint said:
I'm glad I'm not a dealer trying to make a living at this or it would put me out of business with that kind of drop in grades.
I agree and I think if you are a dealer and grading registry/pc cards was your niche, you just stop trying to grade those as the wait, grades returned, grading fees and opportunity cost are all against you actually making money. You're better off selling raw and letting someone else take the beating. This isn't entirely new as I used to know/see dealers that would buy "undergraded" cards and review them and send off the ones they really thought were undergraded and the rest they'd sell raw as "high end examples" that they just hadn't gotten graded yet. And as 76 said, he'd have to sell all the cards to pay the grading fees. That's brutal and I don't think anyone is going to keep doing that long-term.
Next I'd like to post some pictures of what were some of the best cards in the set
My expected grade are in parenthesis.
1 1 49824824 MINT 9 1985 Fleer 335 Dale Murphy Card (10)
2 1 49824825 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 240 Nolan Ryan Card (10)
3 1 49824826 MINT 9 1981 Topps 254 Ozzie Smith Card (10)
4 1 49824827 NEAR MINT 7 1981 Topps 479 Expos Future Stars T.Raines/R.Ramos/B.Pate Card (8)
5 1 49824828 EXCELLENT 5 1981 Topps 479 Expos Future Stars T.Raines/R.Ramos/B.Pate Card (7)
6 1 49824829 NEAR MINT 7 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card (10)
7 1 49824830 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Topps 170 Bo Jackson Future Stars Card (10)
8 1 49824831 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1987 Topps 200 Pete Rose Card (10)
9 1 49824832 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 Donruss 61 Pete Rose Card (10)
10 1 49824833 MINT 9 1984 Donruss 68 Darryl Strawberry Card (9)
11 1 49824834 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 Donruss 66 Dale Murphy Card (10)
12 1 49824835 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 Donruss 302 Carlton Fisk Card (10)
13 1 49824836 MINT 9 1984 Donruss 355 Joe Morgan Card (10)
14 1 49824837 MINT 9 2013 Topps Chrome 78 Nolan Arenado Refractor Card (10)
15 1 49824838 MINT 9 2013 Bowman 136 Derek Jeter Gold Card (10)
16 1 49824839 EXCELLENT 5 1985 Topps 600 Pete Rose Card (10)
17 1 49824840 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1977 Topps 144 Bruce Sutter Card (8)
18 1 49824841 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1972 Topps 411 Bob Montgomery Card (8)
19 1 49824842 NEAR MINT 7 1986 Topps Traded 24T Will Clark Card (10)
20 1 49824843 MINT 9 1976 Topps 64 Jerry Koosman Card (10)
21 1 49824844 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1976 Topps 294 Ed Kirkpatrick Card (10)
22 1 49824845 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 70 Father & Son R.Smalley/R.Smalley Jr. Card (10)
23 1 49824846 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 68 Father & Son J.Coleman/J.Coleman Jr. Card (10)
24 1 49824847 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 284 Steve Ontiveros Card (10)
25 1 49824848 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 381 Denny Doyle Card (10)
26 1 49824849 MINT 9 1976 Topps 431 Dick Ruthven Card (10)
27 1 49824850 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 319 Larry Gura Card (10)
28 1 49824851 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 142 Dick Drago Card (10)
29 1 49824852 MINT 9 1976 Topps 275 Rick Manning Card (10)
30 1 49824853 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 292 Leon Roberts Card (10)
31 1 49824854 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 386 Ed Goodson Card (10)
32 1 49824855 MINT 9 1976 Topps 338 Bob Bailey Card (10)
33 1 49824856 MINT 9 1976 Topps 336 Vic Albury Card (10)
34 1 49824857 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 391 Jerry Hairston Card (10)
35 1 49824858 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 293 Bill Castro Card (10)
36 1 49824859 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 394 Fran Healy Card (10)
37 1 49824860 MINT 9 1976 Topps 25 Mike Torrez Card (10)
38 1 49824861 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 326 Dick Pole Card (10)
39 1 49824862 MINT 9 1976 Topps 412 Toby Harrah Card (10)
40 1 49824863 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 406 Ed Herrmann Card (10)
41 1 49824864 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1976 Topps 305 Andy Messersmith Card (10)
42 1 49824865 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 329 Joe Ferguson Card (10)
43 1 49824866 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 401 Ken Brett Card (10)
44 1 49824867 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 398 Dave Tomlin Card (10)
45 1 49824868 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 369 Frank White Card (10)
46 1 49824869 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 370 Ron Cey Card (10)
47 1 49824870 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 599 Rookie Pitchers Card (10)
48 1 49824871 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 380 Bobby Bonds Card (10)
49 1 49824872 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 300 Johnny Bench Card (9)
50 1 49824873 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 343 Pie Traynor All Time All-Star Card (10)
51 1 49824874 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 250 Fergie Jenkins Card (10)
52 1 49824875 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 441 Gary Carter All-Star Rookie Card (8)
53 1 49824876 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 400 Rod Carew Card (8)
54 1 49824877 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 100 Jim Hunter Card (10)
55 1 49824878 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 316 Robin Yount Card (9)
56 1 49824879 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1976 Topps 240 Pete Rose Card (8)
57 1 49824880 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 270 Willie Stargell Card 9)
58 1 49824881 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 420 Joe Morgan Card (10)
59 1 49824882 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 340 Jim Rice Card (10)
60 1 49824883 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 520 Willie McCovey Card (9)
61 1 49824884 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 325 Tony Perez Card (10)
62 1 49824885 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 450 Jim Palmer Card (9)
63 1 49824886 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 10 Lou Brock Card (9)
64 1 49824887 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 405 Rollie Fingers Card (10)
65 1 49824888 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 242 Dan Meyer Card (10)
66 1 49824889 GEM MINT 10 1976 Topps 274 Tommy Harper Card (10)
67 1 49824890 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 209 Alan Ashby Card (10)
68 1 49824891 GEM MINT 10 1976 Topps 371 Ellie Hendricks Card (10)
69 1 49824892 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 424 Phil Roof Card (10)
70 1 49824893 MINT 9 1976 Topps 282 Dan Osborn Card (10)
71 1 49824894 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 273 Joe Niekro Card (9)
72 1 49824895 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 286 Jim Wohlford Card (10)
73 1 49824896 MINT 9 1976 Topps 344 Honus Wagner All Time All-Star Card (10)
74 1 49824897 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 349 Walter Johnson All Time All-Star Card (10)
75 1 49824898 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 566 Ken McMullen Card (10)
76 1 49824899 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 547 Roric Harrison Card (10)
77 1 49824900 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 568 Rob Andrews Card (10)
78 1 49824901 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 532 Milt May Card (10)
79 1 49824902 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 510 Amos Otis Card (10)
80 1 49824903 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 194 AL Home Run Leaders Jackson/Scott/Mayberry Card (10)
81 1 49824904 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 192 AL Batting Leaders R.Carew/F.Lynn/T.Munson Card (10)
82 1 49824905 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 197 NL Stolen Base Ldrs D.Lopes/J.Morgan/L.Brock Card (10)
83 1 49824906 MINT 9 1976 Topps 377 Mike Hegan Card (10)
84 1 49824907 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 311 Cookie Rojas Card (10)
85 1 49824908 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 297 Roger Metzger Card (10)
86 1 49824909 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 151 Bill Bonham Card (10)
87 1 49824910 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 567 George Stone Card (10)
88 1 49824911 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 418 Jose Morales Card (10)
89 1 49824912 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 413 Pete Varney Card (10)
90 1 49824913 MINT 9 1976 Topps 444 Gary Nolan Card (10)
91 1 49824914 MINT 9 1976 Topps 457 Ed Crosby Card (10)
92 1 49824915 MINT 9 1976 Topps 466 Bob Stinson Card (10)
93 1 49824916 MINT 9 1976 Topps 494 Craig Swan Card (10)
94 1 49824917 MINT 9 1976 Topps 516 Wayne Granger Card (10)
95 1 49824918 MINT 9 1976 Topps 492 Marty Pattin Card (10)
96 1 49824919 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 415 Vada Pinson Card (10)
97 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1976 Topps 509 Bill Hands Card (10)
98 1 49824921 MINT 9 1976 Topps 551 Jerry DaVanon Card (10)
99 1 49824922 MINT 9 1976 Topps 483 Mickey Stanley Card (10)
100 1 49824923 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 498 Glenn Borgmann Card (10)
101 1 49824924 MINT 9 1976 Topps 528 Dock Ellis Card (10)
102 1 49824925 MINT 9 1976 Topps 493 Derrel Thomas Card (10)
Looks like I too have succumbed to age, and no longer have the ability to accurately predict the grade of a card. I have went from the ability to predict a gem mint 10 70's card at about 10-15% accuracy over the last 15 years down to 1.9% accuracy now. I always mix in a dud or two, so I don't worry about that. In 25 years of collecting 70's cards I've never come across a nicer lot than what I sent in. I've built 1976 sets by combining upwards of 15 sets, opening rack packs/wax packs and cello's and this set alone was as nice or nicer than the combination of those 15 high end sets. If there were truly only 2 gem mint 10's in that lot, then it is beyond worthless for me to ever buy cards with the intent on submitting them, because I have zero idea what a gem mint 10 card is, hell I don't even know what a mint card is any more. NOT 1, NOT even 1 of the 1976 hall of fame players I sent came back a 9, when I felt the Morgan, Rice and Perez all had VERY good shots at gemming. 10 months of time having my money/cards tied up and I believe I would have to sell every single card just to recoup my thousand dollars worth of grading fees if I chose to. The good news is I'm now the owner of a $3K 1976 set with one of the top 23 ellie hendricks and tommy harper cards in the world, so I'm very proud of that (sarcasm being poured on thick)
Jeff
Those are danged nice cards, my friend. I don't think it's your age; I think it is ever shifting standards.I have been dissappointed with my last 5 subs as the grades came back at least one level lower than expected. A 9 on a '76 is rare. You can forget about a 10 these days. Love those cards though!!!!
...and I especially appreciate your moving CC vouchers to the absolute bottom of the list.
Do you think - if I called you later - that you could also tell me that that’s where’s it’s always been and that it wasn’t ever listed right there with regular turnaround times?
Thanks!
When PSA CTD reporting appeared on March 1, PSA didn't include CC Vouchers or Reholder categories. Weeks later PSA added them, and they've been at the bottom of my daily update ever since. Interestingly, CC Vouchers and Economy seem to have the same CTD timing.
...and I especially appreciate your moving CC vouchers to the absolute bottom of the list.
Do you think - if I called you later - that you could also tell me that that’s where’s it’s always been and that it wasn’t ever listed right there with regular turnaround times?
Thanks!
When PSA CTD reporting appeared on March 1, PSA didn't include CC Vouchers or Reholder categories. Weeks later PSA added them, and they've been at the bottom of my daily update ever since. Interestingly, CC Vouchers and Economy seem to have the same CTD timing.
As I said, you’ve done excellent work.
Keep it up; it helps everyone.
Curious about the rare, mysterious and beautiful 1951 Wheaties Premium Photos?
@rexvos said:
I think my last 80s sub will be over a year there before it is done
very could be. i have bulk subs that date back as entered on 9/14/20 that still have not reached the grading phase yet. well over 8 months of dust. of course im not so sure i even want them back until they get outta “just mark it an 8” mode.
@rexvos said:
I think my last 80s sub will be over a year there before it is done
very could be. i have bulk subs that date back as entered on 9/14/20 that still have not reached the grading phase yet. well over 8 months of dust. of course im not so sure i even want them back until they get outta “just mark it an 8” mode.
@rexvos said:
I think my last 80s sub will be over a year there before it is done
very could be. i have bulk subs that date back as entered on 9/14/20 that still have not reached the grading phase yet. well over 8 months of dust. of course im not so sure i even want them back until they get outta “just mark it an 8” mode.
1 1 51669072 GEM MINT 10 2020 Panini Mosaic Men of Mastery MM1 Tom Brady Mosaic
2 1 51669073 MINT 9 2018 Panini Prizm 6 LeBron James Silver Prizm Card
3 1 51669074 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2019 Panini Prizm 8 Kobe Bryant Choice Prizm-Tiger Stripe
4 1 51669075 MINT 9 2017 Panini Prizm 16 Jayson Tatum Card
5 1 51669076 GEM MINT 10 2018 Panini Prizm 280 Luka Doncic Card
6 1 51669077 MINT 9 2019 Panini Mosaic 274 JA Morant Fusion Red Choice Card
7 1 51669078 GEM MINT 10 2018 Panini Prizm 280 Luka Doncic Green Prizm Card
8 1 51669079 MINT 9 2019 Panini Mosaic 219 JA Morant Red Green Choice Card
9 1 51669080 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 249 JA Morant Card
10 1 51669081 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Mosaic 298 LeBron James Red Mosaic Card
11 1 51669082 MINT 9 2019 Panini Mosaic Stained Glass 4 Trae Young Card
12 1 51669083 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Mosaic Blue Chips 8 Zion Williamson Mosaic Card
13 1 51669084 GEM MINT 10 2016 Panini Select 4 Jamal Murray Card
14 1 51669085 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Donruss Optic My House! 7 JA Morant Purple Card
15 1 51669086 MINT 9 2019 Panini Donruss Optic 168 JA Morant Blue Velocity Card
16 1 51669087 MINT 9 2019 Panini Donruss Optic 158 Zion Williamson Blue Velocity Card
17 1 51669088 MINT 9 2019 Panini Donruss Optic 172 Tyler Herro Blue Velocity Card
18 1 51669089 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 254 Jaxson Hayes Choice Prizm-Red Card
19 1 51669090 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 278 Cody Martin Silver Prizm Card
20 1 51669091 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 252 Jarrett Culver Silver Prizm Card
21 1 51669092 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 260 Romeo Langford Silver Prizm Card
22 1 51669093 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 272 Jordan Poole Silver Prizm Card
23 1 51669094 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 253 Coby White Silver Prizm Card
24 1 51669095 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 271 Mfiondu Kabengele Silver Prizm Card
25 1 51669096 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 257 Cameron Johnson Silver Prizm Card
26 1 51669097 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 257 Cameron Johnson Silver Prizm Card
27 1 51669098 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 299 Alen Smailagic Silver Prizm Card
28 1 51669099 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 273 Keldon Johnson Silver Prizm Card
29 1 51669100 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 285 Quinndary Weatherspoon Silver Prizm Card
notes: this was about right. hit a few big ones w no upcharges. got some player set fillers in here too. only real head scratcher is the kobe tiger. naturally the best card and an 8? rest is pretty spot on. all blue velocitys are oc for the most part. the silvers at the bottom had the rc badge mis-stamp oc a bit. pretty normal for the issue. some slide thru as 10s, some get pegged w 9s. so cant really complain or expect those to have 10’d. all in all, doesnt feel like a loss at least. they are still on my **** list for now.
Hi all, newbie here. I am also new to PSA. I submitted my first order of 100 cards in January. They show them arrived as of 02/23/2021 and entered as 04/02/2021. I have been following the "Complete Through Date" chart and thought maybe I was missing something so I joined here to read up.
Based on what I am reading (and seeing for myself) the CTD for Value-Modern. it seems to stay on one date conservatively for at least 4 days. By that math, and my entered date I should receive my cards back in 2.7 years from today. Am I missing something? Turn-around time when I submitted was like 5 months.
@chuckman said:
Hi all, newbie here. I am also new to PSA. I submitted my first order of 100 cards in January. They show them arrived as of 02/23/2021 and entered as 04/02/2021. I have been following the "Complete Through Date" chart and thought maybe I was missing something so I joined here to read up.
Based on what I am reading (and seeing for myself) the CTD for Value-Modern. it seems to stay on one date conservatively for at least 4 days. By that math, and my entered date I should receive my cards back in 2.7 years from today. Am I missing something? Turn-around time when I submitted was like 5 months.
@blurryface said:
for those that subbed packs prior to october 1 and while i havent gotten any back yet myself, ive heard they started shipping some out yesterday.
My packs arrived 10/13 but weren’t logged until 1/14 - do you think that means I’m a few weeks away, or a few months away? I know you don’t have a crystal ball, but just curious if “subbed” in your statement aligns more closely with “arrived” or “entered”... Thanks either way for the info.
@blurryface said:
for those that subbed packs prior to october 1 and while i havent gotten any back yet myself, ive heard they started shipping some out yesterday.
My packs arrived 10/13 but weren’t logged until 1/14 - do you think that means I’m a few weeks away, or a few months away? I know you don’t have a crystal ball, but just curious if “subbed” in your statement aligns more closely with “arrived” or “entered”... Thanks either way for the info.
if i had to guess, you will probably be in 2 months time.
it's looking like this batch was for packs actually logged by 11/15ish time period.
grote will probably give you a little better insight into how often psa sends bbce the packs and when.
eta: actually, i might push my guesstimate out another month. your log date is right on the bubble of that first massive influx they talked about after the first price increase, i think.
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Good luck!
good luck Jeff!!
Want to start my post of my grades with a link to my thread opening this 1976 set that I bought last year from pwcc.
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1040281/here-goes-nothin-never-seen-since-1976/p1
Next I'd like to post some pictures of what were some of the best cards in the set
My expected grade are in parenthesis.
1 1 49824824 MINT 9 1985 Fleer 335 Dale Murphy Card (10)
2 1 49824825 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Topps 240 Nolan Ryan Card (10)
3 1 49824826 MINT 9 1981 Topps 254 Ozzie Smith Card (10)
4 1 49824827 NEAR MINT 7 1981 Topps 479 Expos Future Stars T.Raines/R.Ramos/B.Pate Card (8)
5 1 49824828 EXCELLENT 5 1981 Topps 479 Expos Future Stars T.Raines/R.Ramos/B.Pate Card (7)
6 1 49824829 NEAR MINT 7 1987 Topps 366 Mark McGwire Card (10)
7 1 49824830 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1987 Topps 170 Bo Jackson Future Stars Card (10)
8 1 49824831 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1987 Topps 200 Pete Rose Card (10)
9 1 49824832 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 Donruss 61 Pete Rose Card (10)
10 1 49824833 MINT 9 1984 Donruss 68 Darryl Strawberry Card (9)
11 1 49824834 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 Donruss 66 Dale Murphy Card (10)
12 1 49824835 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 Donruss 302 Carlton Fisk Card (10)
13 1 49824836 MINT 9 1984 Donruss 355 Joe Morgan Card (10)
14 1 49824837 MINT 9 2013 Topps Chrome 78 Nolan Arenado Refractor Card (10)
15 1 49824838 MINT 9 2013 Bowman 136 Derek Jeter Gold Card (10)
16 1 49824839 EXCELLENT 5 1985 Topps 600 Pete Rose Card (10)
17 1 49824840 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1977 Topps 144 Bruce Sutter Card (8)
18 1 49824841 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1972 Topps 411 Bob Montgomery Card (8)
19 1 49824842 NEAR MINT 7 1986 Topps Traded 24T Will Clark Card (10)
20 1 49824843 MINT 9 1976 Topps 64 Jerry Koosman Card (10)
21 1 49824844 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1976 Topps 294 Ed Kirkpatrick Card (10)
22 1 49824845 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 70 Father & Son R.Smalley/R.Smalley Jr. Card (10)
23 1 49824846 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 68 Father & Son J.Coleman/J.Coleman Jr. Card (10)
24 1 49824847 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 284 Steve Ontiveros Card (10)
25 1 49824848 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 381 Denny Doyle Card (10)
26 1 49824849 MINT 9 1976 Topps 431 Dick Ruthven Card (10)
27 1 49824850 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 319 Larry Gura Card (10)
28 1 49824851 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 142 Dick Drago Card (10)
29 1 49824852 MINT 9 1976 Topps 275 Rick Manning Card (10)
30 1 49824853 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 292 Leon Roberts Card (10)
31 1 49824854 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 386 Ed Goodson Card (10)
32 1 49824855 MINT 9 1976 Topps 338 Bob Bailey Card (10)
33 1 49824856 MINT 9 1976 Topps 336 Vic Albury Card (10)
34 1 49824857 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 391 Jerry Hairston Card (10)
35 1 49824858 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 293 Bill Castro Card (10)
36 1 49824859 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 394 Fran Healy Card (10)
37 1 49824860 MINT 9 1976 Topps 25 Mike Torrez Card (10)
38 1 49824861 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 326 Dick Pole Card (10)
39 1 49824862 MINT 9 1976 Topps 412 Toby Harrah Card (10)
40 1 49824863 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 406 Ed Herrmann Card (10)
41 1 49824864 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1976 Topps 305 Andy Messersmith Card (10)
42 1 49824865 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 329 Joe Ferguson Card (10)
43 1 49824866 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 401 Ken Brett Card (10)
44 1 49824867 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 398 Dave Tomlin Card (10)
45 1 49824868 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 369 Frank White Card (10)
46 1 49824869 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 370 Ron Cey Card (10)
47 1 49824870 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 599 Rookie Pitchers Card (10)
48 1 49824871 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 380 Bobby Bonds Card (10)
49 1 49824872 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 300 Johnny Bench Card (9)
50 1 49824873 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 343 Pie Traynor All Time All-Star Card (10)
51 1 49824874 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 250 Fergie Jenkins Card (10)
52 1 49824875 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 441 Gary Carter All-Star Rookie Card (8)
53 1 49824876 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 400 Rod Carew Card (8)
54 1 49824877 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 100 Jim Hunter Card (10)
55 1 49824878 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 316 Robin Yount Card (9)
56 1 49824879 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1976 Topps 240 Pete Rose Card (8)
57 1 49824880 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 270 Willie Stargell Card 9)
58 1 49824881 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 420 Joe Morgan Card (10)
59 1 49824882 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 340 Jim Rice Card (10)
60 1 49824883 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 520 Willie McCovey Card (9)
61 1 49824884 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 325 Tony Perez Card (10)
62 1 49824885 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 450 Jim Palmer Card (9)
63 1 49824886 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 10 Lou Brock Card (9)
64 1 49824887 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 405 Rollie Fingers Card (10)
65 1 49824888 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 242 Dan Meyer Card (10)
66 1 49824889 GEM MINT 10 1976 Topps 274 Tommy Harper Card (10)
67 1 49824890 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 209 Alan Ashby Card (10)
68 1 49824891 GEM MINT 10 1976 Topps 371 Ellie Hendricks Card (10)
69 1 49824892 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 424 Phil Roof Card (10)
70 1 49824893 MINT 9 1976 Topps 282 Dan Osborn Card (10)
71 1 49824894 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 273 Joe Niekro Card (9)
72 1 49824895 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 286 Jim Wohlford Card (10)
73 1 49824896 MINT 9 1976 Topps 344 Honus Wagner All Time All-Star Card (10)
74 1 49824897 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 349 Walter Johnson All Time All-Star Card (10)
75 1 49824898 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 566 Ken McMullen Card (10)
76 1 49824899 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 547 Roric Harrison Card (10)
77 1 49824900 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 568 Rob Andrews Card (10)
78 1 49824901 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 532 Milt May Card (10)
79 1 49824902 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 510 Amos Otis Card (10)
80 1 49824903 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 194 AL Home Run Leaders Jackson/Scott/Mayberry Card (10)
81 1 49824904 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 192 AL Batting Leaders R.Carew/F.Lynn/T.Munson Card (10)
82 1 49824905 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 197 NL Stolen Base Ldrs D.Lopes/J.Morgan/L.Brock Card (10)
83 1 49824906 MINT 9 1976 Topps 377 Mike Hegan Card (10)
84 1 49824907 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 311 Cookie Rojas Card (10)
85 1 49824908 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 297 Roger Metzger Card (10)
86 1 49824909 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 151 Bill Bonham Card (10)
87 1 49824910 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 567 George Stone Card (10)
88 1 49824911 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 418 Jose Morales Card (10)
89 1 49824912 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 413 Pete Varney Card (10)
90 1 49824913 MINT 9 1976 Topps 444 Gary Nolan Card (10)
91 1 49824914 MINT 9 1976 Topps 457 Ed Crosby Card (10)
92 1 49824915 MINT 9 1976 Topps 466 Bob Stinson Card (10)
93 1 49824916 MINT 9 1976 Topps 494 Craig Swan Card (10)
94 1 49824917 MINT 9 1976 Topps 516 Wayne Granger Card (10)
95 1 49824918 MINT 9 1976 Topps 492 Marty Pattin Card (10)
96 1 49824919 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 415 Vada Pinson Card (10)
97 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1976 Topps 509 Bill Hands Card (10)
98 1 49824921 MINT 9 1976 Topps 551 Jerry DaVanon Card (10)
99 1 49824922 MINT 9 1976 Topps 483 Mickey Stanley Card (10)
100 1 49824923 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 498 Glenn Borgmann Card (10)
101 1 49824924 MINT 9 1976 Topps 528 Dock Ellis Card (10)
102 1 49824925 MINT 9 1976 Topps 493 Derrel Thomas Card (10)
Looks like I too have succumbed to age, and no longer have the ability to accurately predict the grade of a card. I have went from the ability to predict a gem mint 10 70's card at about 10-15% accuracy over the last 15 years down to 1.9% accuracy now. I always mix in a dud or two, so I don't worry about that. In 25 years of collecting 70's cards I've never come across a nicer lot than what I sent in. I've built 1976 sets by combining upwards of 15 sets, opening rack packs/wax packs and cello's and this set alone was as nice or nicer than the combination of those 15 high end sets. If there were truly only 2 gem mint 10's in that lot, then it is beyond worthless for me to ever buy cards with the intent on submitting them, because I have zero idea what a gem mint 10 card is, hell I don't even know what a mint card is any more. NOT 1, NOT even 1 of the 1976 hall of fame players I sent came back a 9, when I felt the Morgan, Rice and Perez all had VERY good shots at gemming. 10 months of time having my money/cards tied up and I believe I would have to sell every single card just to recoup my thousand dollars worth of grading fees if I chose to. The good news is I'm now the owner of a $3K 1976 set with one of the top 23 ellie hendricks and tommy harper cards in the world, so I'm very proud of that (sarcasm being poured on thick)
Jeff
Collecting:
post world war II HOF rookie
76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars
Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals)
successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
dayum. i know the feeling and there are no words. so i wont even try...
Wow Jeff, my condolences. What a kick in the teeth.
From the scans, I would have said the Joe Morgan and Willie McCovey cards were equal or better than the Tommy Harper. If PSA thinks this is going to go well for them in the long term, then they should start reading these threads from long time customers. Driving off well respected and knowledgable registry collectors and anyone who collects vintage will leave them to the boom and bust of shiny modern subs.
I couldn't even finish looking through the grades, as seeing those minty fresh ungraded cards and matching them with 7's and 6's was too much.
oh man, that is rough, sorry
That is what makes it so irritating to me. If I could wrap my head around what they are thinking (MAYBE GIVE US SOME GRADER NOTES) maybe I could understand. But I agree there was nothing I saw that distinguishes the Tommy Harper card from virtually any of the others. Sure when I get it in hand, maybe I can see some flaws on some of the other cards. But they have had my cards so long I really don't remember what they looked like other than the pictures, and that I was SUPER excited about the Morgan card especially. Here is another picture. The Varney and Morales are both 8's as well and show nicer than the Harper card IMO.
Collecting:
post world war II HOF rookie
76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars
Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals)
successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
Ok, my first big lot just came in an email with some up charges !!!
Here they are!! Happy to finally get them back.
Zion Williamson 2019-2020 Optic RC #158 PSA 9
Zion Williamson 2019-2020 Prizm Pink #248 PSA 8
Zion Williamson 2019-2020 Prizm RWB #248 PSA 8
Zion Williamson 2019-2020 PRIZM BASE #248 PSA 9
Zion Williamson 2019-2020 PRIZM BASE #248 PSA 10
Ja Morant 2019-2020 Prizm base #249 PSA 10
Ja Morant 2019-2020 Prizm SILVER #249 PSA 10
Ja Morant 2019-2020 Prizm Cracked Pink #249 PSA 8
Ja Morant 2019-2020 Prizm RWB #249 PSA 8
Michael Porter Jr 2018-19 Chronicles Red/149 #508 PSA 9
Michael Porter JR 2019-2020 PRIZM SILVER PSA 9
Michael Porter Jr 2018-2019 Prizm red wave RC. PSA 9
Luka Doncic 2018-19 Prizm RC #280 PSA 10
Luka Doncic 2018-19 Prizm RC #280 PSA 9
Luka Doncic 2018-19 DONRUSS SIGNIFICANT SIGNATURES PSA 9
Luka Doncic 2018-19 Select Concourse #25 RC PSA 9
Luka Doncic 2018-19 Obsidian Silver #571 PSA 8
Luka Doncic 2018-19 Threads #141 PSA 10
Luka Doncic 2018-19 NBA Hoops #268 PSA 9
Luka Doncic 2019-2020 NBA Hoops High Voltage #9 PSA 10
Luka Doncic 2019-20 Mosaic Reactive Blue Prizm #44 PSA 10
Luka Doncic 2018-19 Optic Rated Rookie #177 PSA 10
Luka Doncic 2019-2020 Optic Blue Velocity #16 PSA 10
Luka Doncic 2018-2019 Chronicles Pink RC #71 PSA 10
Luka Doncic 2019-2020 Optic Hyper Pink #16 PSA 10
Luka Doncic 2019-2020 Optic Hyper Pink #16 PSA 10
Luka Doncic 2019-2020 Optic Purple #16 PSA 10
2019-2020 Tyler Herro Prizm Silver #259 RC PSA 9
Jayson Tatum 2018-2019 Ruby Red Wave Prizm #118 PSA 9
Jayson Taytum 2018-2019 Pink Cracked Prizm #118 PSA 9
I am extremely pleased with the 10's , being these are my first ones to get from them!!!!
Jeff,
Your sub results just anger me. There is no reason for that type of return. I wish one person at PSA with the ability to effect a positive change would look at these boards and read through this thread. Just absolutely an abomination to do something like this
The grading standards have tightened....This is mine
This is a buddy of mines......
In my opinion, some of the nicest 5's you will ever find.
thats the thing though. this type of sub isnt just happening w vintage. its happening across the board.
what happens when theyve expanded, buy out sgc perhaps, sunk tons of money into training personnel and IT, the flippers flee and theyve run off loyal guys from every subbing era w this [expletive delete] and/or price points? weve seen plenty of good peeps here alone getting pushed to their own personal breaking points just this week. and this isnt exactly midtown manhattan when it comes to the on line collecting world. how many more months of backlogs and gut punches are left at this pace? i have a nice stack of cards that’d be ready to sub at the current $300 level. even more at the $150 and even $50 level. no way im subbing them anytime soon even if they opened up tomorrow. i can put up w the price increases & the crazy delays but i refuse to pay and wait months on end just to get insulted. because thats basically what it is. a good old fashion slap to the face. nothing more. nothing less.
and here’s the scary thing, i havent looked at the CTD but my sub history and calculations, we are just getting into that huge sept/oct bottlenecking influx. so if they are just flying thru and 9’n things to death in a mad scramble to tackle the mountain, things are gonna get a whole lot slower and worse.
Sad to see that happen to you Jeff, those are some if the nicest 76's that I have ever seen.
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@AFLfan,
Is there a way to request a review of a small subset of your submission before they are shipped back ?
Jeff
Collecting:
post world war II HOF rookie
76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars
Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals)
successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
@kevinlenane
Thanks blurry. Sad, because I will never send them back and pay more for review. The vast majority will be shattered upon arrival and just stuck into my binder with the rest of the set that I didn't deem worthy of grading.
Collecting:
post world war II HOF rookie
76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars
Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals)
successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
yep. know the feeling. never have i ever requested such until that last herro sub. i certainly didnt want to burn my big bridges w this modern sub so just emailed the info@ email and thats what i got back.
ive been conversing privately w kevin (genamint founder) and tagged him above. he’s been very receptive which is reassuring. will bring it up next time we speak as just another sound example.
Sorry to see that Jeff. You had a lot of 10 predictions in there but, as you said, you were only expecting 10% of those to hit. Your grader was probably blinded by refractors when he got your order and none of your cards met 21st century technology expectations. PSA has to be very careful here. Mass overgrading of cards (think BCCG/Pro) can destroy a brand but so can mass undergrading damage the brand. Both impact the brand's credibility.
Always good to check with that sage of sages, Carl Spackler.
Carl?
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76collector Posts: 824 ✭✭✭✭May 26, 2021 10:03AM
My 76 grades just popped. Sent in July of last year, received in sep.
That's just plain ridiculous, I'm sorry. Pretty much nothing in terms of an update in relation to progress being made which tells me that there isn't anything to be proud of enough to speak of it. I'm hoping that I'm simply misinformed and that there are 300k cards shooting through there everyday. I'm not even that pressed for it but for having been shut down for 2 months only to find progress actually slowing is inexcusable
Though it can be quite expensive, there's always the option to send a few of the more perplexing undergraded cards to a service that offers subgrades - just to get a more detailed review.
Just like everyone here, I consider PSA the top grading service, but I've never understood why services that offer MORE information about a card's grade - especially since detailed grading notes seem to be in demand - are often held in such low regard compared to PSA.
Definitely should preface those (10) predictions with what you mentioned. I went through the set and stacked cards that were centered well enough to sub. Then I go through them quickly for flaws and make an additional stack. That yielded around 200 cards. At that point I get out the magnifying glasses and look at each in much more detail. If I don’t think a 76 common has a chance at a 10 I won’t bother submitting it. That process has yielded a success rate of between 10-15% on 70’s cards over the last 15 years I’ve been submitting. So I just put 10 by every common though history told me most of them wouldn’t get a 10. Only getting 2 was a shock to the system as I don’t believe I’ve ever had that low of a success rate and these were even higher end than most of my past submissions.
Here is an example of one of my subs from 2017. This is an average sub. They all look like this in the past, I just chose this because it's 50 cards so easy to see percentages.
1 1 27196687 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1993 SP 279 Derek Jeter Foil Card
2 1 27196688 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1976 Topps 355 Steve Carlton Card
3 1 27196689 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1976 Topps 330 Nolan Ryan Card
4 1 27196690 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1976 Topps 300 Johnny Bench Card
5 1 27196691 EXCELLENT 5 1976 Topps 655 Mike Vail Card
6 1 27196692 MINT 9 1976 Topps 273 Joe Niekro Card
7 1 27196693 MINT 9 1976 Topps 235 Bert Blyleven Card
8 1 27196694 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 325 Tony Perez Card
9 1 27196695 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 347 Ted Williams All Time All-Star Card
10 1 27196696 GEM MINT 10 1976 Topps 318 Bob Boone Card
11 1 27196697 MINT 9 1976 Topps 509 Bill Hands Card
12 1 27196698 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 531 Mets Team Card
13 1 27196699 MINT 9 1978 Topps 188 Al Bumbry Card
14 1 27196700 MINT 9 1978 Topps 682 Ken Brett Card
15 1 27196701 GEM MINT 10 1978 Topps 315 Mark Belanger Card
16 1 27196702 MINT 9 1978 Topps 422 Steve Braun Card
17 1 27196703 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 Topps 500 George Foster Card
18 1 27196704 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 2003 Topps 221 LeBron James Collection Card
19 1 27196705 MINT 9 2010 Bowman Chrome Prospects BCP91 Nolan Arenado Blue Refractor Card
20 1 27196706 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Topps 100 Nolan Ryan Card
21 1 27196707 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 Topps 708 Rookie Catchers Card
22 1 27196708 NEAR MINT 7 1978 Topps 100 George Brett Card
23 1 27196709 MINT 9 1978 Topps 604 Earl Williams Card
24 1 27196710 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 Topps 60 Thurman Munson Card
25 1 27196711 MINT 9 1978 Topps 270 Carlton Fisk Card
26 1 27196712 MINT 9 1978 Topps 200 Reggie Jackson Card
27 1 27196713 GEM MINT 10 1978 Topps 510 Willie Stargell Card
28 1 27196714 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 Topps 400 Nolan Ryan Card
29 1 27196715 MINT 9 1978 Topps 170 Lou Brock Card
30 1 27196716 GEM MINT 10 1978 Topps 160 Jim Palmer Card
31 1 27196717 NEAR MINT 7 1978 Topps 707 Rookie Shortstops Card
32 1 27196718 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1978 Topps 36 Eddie Murray Card
33 1 27196719 MINT 9 1978 Topps 175 Jerry Morales Card
34 1 27196720 MINT 9 1978 Topps 98 Jim Essian Card
35 1 27196721 MINT 9 1978 Topps 247 Larry Christenson Card
36 1 27196722 GEM MINT 10 1978 Topps 238 Juan Beniquez Card
37 1 27196723 MINT 9 1978 Topps 672 Don Kessinger Card
38 1 27196724 MINT 9 1978 Topps 611 Pat Scanlon Card
39 1 27196725 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1978 Topps 641 Doug Rau Card
40 1 27196726 MINT 9 1978 Topps 242 Barry Bonnell Card
41 1 27196727 MINT 9 1978 Topps 223 Bruce Kison Card
42 1 27196728 NEAR MINT 7 1978 Topps 330 Bob Watson Card
43 1 27196729 MINT 9 1978 Topps 219 Mike Cubbage Card
44 1 27196730 MINT 9 1978 Topps 663 Paul Reuschel Card
45 1 27196731 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 Topps 244 Expos Team Card
46 1 27196732 GEM MINT 10 1978 Topps 309 Cliff Johnson Card
47 1 27196733 GEM MINT 10 1978 Topps 692 Ken Reitz Card
48 1 27196734 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1978 Topps 703 Rookie Pitchers Card
49 1 27196735 NEAR MINT 7 1978 Topps 620 Willie Randolph Card
50 1 27196736 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1978 Topps 72 Andre Dawson Card
Jeff
Collecting:
post world war II HOF rookie
76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars
Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals)
successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
You do a lot better than I do on 10s. I typically get 3-5 per 500 card sub. That tracks with the overall success rate of vintage 10s as a % of overall submissions. Based on their tighter standards, I expect to go down to 1 10 per 500 if I'm lucky and from 50-75 9's per 500 down to 15-20, again if I'm lucky. Same quality cards but lower grade distribution. I'm glad I'm not a dealer trying to make a living at this or it would put me out of business with that kind of drop in grades.
Just had this one move to assembly, 6 card with an array of vintage and a 1985 Nike Jordan. Also had a regular sub that was logged 4/13/21 go into grading which blows my mind since the dual grading bulk sub is still in r&d.
Regular Grading CC Renewal
Rec'd - 11/09/20
Logged - 11/24/20
Assembly- 5/26/21
Grades Popped -
Shipped -
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Generally when I first see sub results I react with irritation, some curse words, a few choice adjectives about parentage etc. I then go ask the wife if she wants comfort food and I leave and get it. Afterwards I stew for a bit, chill, and come back and see if I missed something
I'm viewing it quickly at lunch but I'll make a quick remark on the below four. I could pick more but don't have much time during my break- my opinion of these of course just an "opinion" =
57 1 49824880 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 270 Willie Stargell Card 9)
59 1 49824882 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 340 Jim Rice Card (10)
65 1 49824888 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 242 Dan Meyer Card (10)
67 1 49824890 NEAR MINT 7 1976 Topps 209 Alan Ashby Card (10)
Fish eyes on a card disqualifies any card from getting a 10. And a 9 most times. Has to be very minor or stick somewhere where it will not detract visually from eye appeal.
Print marks of any type also will cause immediate lowering
Look at the S in Tigers name on Meyer, and on Alan Ashby by his first name. Printing flaws = eye appeal lowering.
Could be more scans don't show.
On the Harper quick note- deeper hues would have brought that up. Merely look at the depth of color and clarity on the Stargell -and compare it to the Harper. Darker green/yellow- I can see that one highly graded.
Opinion only of course--quick viewing during lunch. Those are quality cards and coming from a raw set that looks great- can see why they were subbed.
On another note-- my three May 30th bulk tiers shot from grading to QA1 as did the personal sub below-this sub below is the "latest" dated of the June subs that moved to QA1. Had almost every June 2020 tier and personal bulk have some type of movement. Seems they are attacking Modern June 2020 this week.
Also had movement on some 2021 re-slab special subs as well into Assembly.
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Jeff
Hey Jeff, thanks for you comments. I agree on the fisheye after Stargell's name. I knew that would keep it from a 10 but never imagined it would drop it to a 7. I subbed it because everything else was perfect IMO. As for printing i can find countless examples of 76's and really any 70's or 80's cards that are sitting in 9 holders with printing issues. If I looked I'm betting I could even find some 10's with slight printing imperfections. I'm glad this was just a quick look at lunch from you, because I think you hit on my point with your comment about the Harper. "deeper hues would have brought that up" Brought that up to what ? An 11 ? That is one of the 2 gem mint 10's I got, and why I remain perplexed. When I look at the Harper card in the images vs the Stargell I feel like the colors/gloss are much stronger on the Stargell and it ended up in a 7. To be honest it's just a matter of wanting to understand more so than being upset. When I get the cards in hand I will compare the 2 10's to everything else so I can try and spot what the graders felt were the weaknesses, especially in the Morgan and the Perez because I could find no weaknesses in them and they didn't even 9. It's my personal opinion that standards have changed, and they are being much more picky on big cards and cards of hall of famers. I'd love to see examples of people landing 10's on pre 1980 hall of famer cards. That would ease my mind a little at least.
Jeff
Collecting:
post world war II HOF rookie
76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars
Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals)
successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
Why am I not feeling good about this?
Yeehah!!
Neil
@76collector yeah understood on wanting to understand grades. It may be my 8 yr old phone but Stargell appears also to have chipping left edge and that eye appeal fish eye. Check that left edge when it comes back.
Nice work on this...
...and I especially appreciate your moving CC vouchers to the absolute bottom of the list.
Do you think - if I called you later - that you could also tell me that that’s where’s it’s always been and that it wasn’t ever listed right there with regular turnaround times?
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It is discouraging to say the least that quarterly specials haven't moved. Mine is so old, it is actually a MONTHLY special back then. The fact that it is almost taking a year is really heartbreaking.
I agree and I think if you are a dealer and grading registry/pc cards was your niche, you just stop trying to grade those as the wait, grades returned, grading fees and opportunity cost are all against you actually making money. You're better off selling raw and letting someone else take the beating. This isn't entirely new as I used to know/see dealers that would buy "undergraded" cards and review them and send off the ones they really thought were undergraded and the rest they'd sell raw as "high end examples" that they just hadn't gotten graded yet. And as 76 said, he'd have to sell all the cards to pay the grading fees. That's brutal and I don't think anyone is going to keep doing that long-term.
Those are danged nice cards, my friend. I don't think it's your age; I think it is ever shifting standards.I have been dissappointed with my last 5 subs as the grades came back at least one level lower than expected. A 9 on a '76 is rare. You can forget about a 10 these days. Love those cards though!!!!
That bench is a 9 IMHO. It is beautiful. Nicer than the 10 Harper to me.
Thanks!
When PSA CTD reporting appeared on March 1, PSA didn't include CC Vouchers or Reholder categories. Weeks later PSA added them, and they've been at the bottom of my daily update ever since. Interestingly, CC Vouchers and Economy seem to have the same CTD timing.
As I said, you’ve done excellent work.
Keep it up; it helps everyone.
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I think my last 80s sub will be over a year there before it is done
very could be. i have bulk subs that date back as entered on 9/14/20 that still have not reached the grading phase yet. well over 8 months of dust. of course im not so sure i even want them back until they get outta “just mark it an 8” mode.
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thats exactly where i was going w that! 😉
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Shipped 5/27.
29 card, economy
recvd: 9/28/20
logged: 11/11/20
popped: 5/27/21
1 1 51669072 GEM MINT 10 2020 Panini Mosaic Men of Mastery MM1 Tom Brady Mosaic
2 1 51669073 MINT 9 2018 Panini Prizm 6 LeBron James Silver Prizm Card
3 1 51669074 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2019 Panini Prizm 8 Kobe Bryant Choice Prizm-Tiger Stripe
4 1 51669075 MINT 9 2017 Panini Prizm 16 Jayson Tatum Card
5 1 51669076 GEM MINT 10 2018 Panini Prizm 280 Luka Doncic Card
6 1 51669077 MINT 9 2019 Panini Mosaic 274 JA Morant Fusion Red Choice Card
7 1 51669078 GEM MINT 10 2018 Panini Prizm 280 Luka Doncic Green Prizm Card
8 1 51669079 MINT 9 2019 Panini Mosaic 219 JA Morant Red Green Choice Card
9 1 51669080 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 249 JA Morant Card
10 1 51669081 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Mosaic 298 LeBron James Red Mosaic Card
11 1 51669082 MINT 9 2019 Panini Mosaic Stained Glass 4 Trae Young Card
12 1 51669083 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Mosaic Blue Chips 8 Zion Williamson Mosaic Card
13 1 51669084 GEM MINT 10 2016 Panini Select 4 Jamal Murray Card
14 1 51669085 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Donruss Optic My House! 7 JA Morant Purple Card
15 1 51669086 MINT 9 2019 Panini Donruss Optic 168 JA Morant Blue Velocity Card
16 1 51669087 MINT 9 2019 Panini Donruss Optic 158 Zion Williamson Blue Velocity Card
17 1 51669088 MINT 9 2019 Panini Donruss Optic 172 Tyler Herro Blue Velocity Card
18 1 51669089 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 254 Jaxson Hayes Choice Prizm-Red Card
19 1 51669090 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 278 Cody Martin Silver Prizm Card
20 1 51669091 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 252 Jarrett Culver Silver Prizm Card
21 1 51669092 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 260 Romeo Langford Silver Prizm Card
22 1 51669093 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 272 Jordan Poole Silver Prizm Card
23 1 51669094 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 253 Coby White Silver Prizm Card
24 1 51669095 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 271 Mfiondu Kabengele Silver Prizm Card
25 1 51669096 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 257 Cameron Johnson Silver Prizm Card
26 1 51669097 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 257 Cameron Johnson Silver Prizm Card
27 1 51669098 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 299 Alen Smailagic Silver Prizm Card
28 1 51669099 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 273 Keldon Johnson Silver Prizm Card
29 1 51669100 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 285 Quinndary Weatherspoon Silver Prizm Card
notes: this was about right. hit a few big ones w no upcharges. got some player set fillers in here too. only real head scratcher is the kobe tiger. naturally the best card and an 8? rest is pretty spot on. all blue velocitys are oc for the most part. the silvers at the bottom had the rc badge mis-stamp oc a bit. pretty normal for the issue. some slide thru as 10s, some get pegged w 9s. so cant really complain or expect those to have 10’d. all in all, doesnt feel like a loss at least. they are still on my **** list for now.
Hi all, newbie here. I am also new to PSA. I submitted my first order of 100 cards in January. They show them arrived as of 02/23/2021 and entered as 04/02/2021. I have been following the "Complete Through Date" chart and thought maybe I was missing something so I joined here to read up.
Based on what I am reading (and seeing for myself) the CTD for Value-Modern. it seems to stay on one date conservatively for at least 4 days. By that math, and my entered date I should receive my cards back in 2.7 years from today. Am I missing something? Turn-around time when I submitted was like 5 months.
it will likely be 12 months or so
welcome aboard! and agree w/ oakesy.
for those that subbed packs prior to october 1 and while i havent gotten any back yet myself, ive heard they started shipping some out yesterday.
My packs arrived 10/13 but weren’t logged until 1/14 - do you think that means I’m a few weeks away, or a few months away? I know you don’t have a crystal ball, but just curious if “subbed” in your statement aligns more closely with “arrived” or “entered”... Thanks either way for the info.
Jim
if i had to guess, you will probably be in 2 months time.
it's looking like this batch was for packs actually logged by 11/15ish time period.
grote will probably give you a little better insight into how often psa sends bbce the packs and when.
eta: actually, i might push my guesstimate out another month. your log date is right on the bubble of that first massive influx they talked about after the first price increase, i think.
I was hoping there was something I was not factoring in. That's insane.
Thanks
if you follow or read the thread, especially the last couple of pages, you really dont want them anywhere near the grading table right now.
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