Expecting 8/9, got 3's. For 50$ regular cost. Definitely have submitted for the last time.
2
DATE RECEIVED
3/31/2021
DATE SHIPPED
N/A
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 57209473 VERY GOOD 3 1967 Topps Red Sox Stickers 29 Carl Yastrzemski for Mayor Card
2 1 57209474 VERY GOOD 3 1967 Topps Red Sox Stickers 32 Red Sox Logo Card
"...life is but a dream."
Used to working on HOF SS Baseballs--Now just '67 Sox Stickers and anything Boston related.
My oldest sub is still out there from August 12th. They say there are older subs than mine out there. I find that hard to believe. Not anyone on the boards anyway.
@bobbyw8469 said:
My oldest sub is still out there from August 12th. They say there are older subs than mine out there. I find that hard to believe. Not anyone on the boards anyway.
hard to compare, but still have a sub that arrived 12/28/20 that still isn't marked as recvd or even logged yet. assured it has arrived via tracking number and verbal confirmation but....
@blurryface said:
where as i have express and regulars been there since 3/1, 3/19 that still aren't recvd. 😉
shoulda even been back by now. hopefully they get fast tracked once entered. but still.
Ahh, that sucks! How the hell does an Express sub not get logged in over two months?
hoping one of my ultra moderns that was just entered will pop this month. i just like to think it all evens out in the end. if ya think of it any other way, it'd drive ya crazy! 😉
Still waiting for the "official" notification, but the pizza tracker went to "Shipping" at noon and I can see the grades via the Set Registry tonight (I edited that information to the usual notification format for convenience), my guesses in ():
The Good:
The Billy Herman was cracked out of an SGC 7.5 slab and one of the Mathews was cracked out of an SGC 7 slab. I got the second Matthews raw in an auction for just $36. Great results so far; two nice HOFer cards for my 1955 PSA set and a surprise 7 that I can sell to cover the total grading cost.
The Ugly:
The Woodling was cracked from a BVG 8 case, looked like a great card to me, and I took a bath on it. I pulled the Brett from vintage wax several months ago and it really looked beautiful, too. Hopefully i just missed something on both of those.
Oh well, I'm pretty happy with this, except I need to figure out what to do (if anything) with the Woodling. Now the long wait for the mostly 1955 Value Vintage submission.
@blurryface said:
wait. explain how you could see the grades via registry and pre-official popping? thats an amazing glitch id like to know more about...
and congrats! “pretty happy” is excellent, imo!
Here's what I did in FIrefox: Go to the menu in the upper left and select "Orders". There's a column "Available To Add" and it indicated that I had 5 cards from this order available. Selecting the Order # from the first column took me to the following list (with Page Not Found errors for the "View Item" links):
I was able to successfully add these to my Registry via the button below the list. I still haven't received a notification email and can't access my grades through main PSA site.
only 23 gems. 37% gem rate. 4 cards came back psa 7s. again, ultra modern. something just isnt right.
extremely discouraged about a lot of things. finding it very difficult to stay positive.
Damn, sorry Blurry. Very frustrating. I have 2 orders in QA1 now and usually I’m excited about that but now I’m nervous and not sure if I want to know. My overall excitement about this hobby has taken a hit.
Well, good news is I'm getting an express order back to hold me over until all my bulks get finished. Bad news is it's a grade below what I was "hoping" for. I love the card. It's centered and has great eye appeal and I wanted it slabbed for protection, so I'm not overly concerned.
arrived 02/24/21
recvd 03/25/21
popped 05/11/21
my guess is in bold
1 1 57969774 VERY GOOD 3 1956 Topps 30 Jackie Robinson Gray Back Card (4)
I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid. Collecting: post world war II HOF rookie 76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals) successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
Just had an Economy pop that was received 9/1. Grades are disappointing but I am in no way surprised. 4 of these were mine. 3 were subbed for friends. The 4 cards I subbed were to be pc but now I will be selling because I will be disgusted every time I look at them. The Rose I hoped for a 6 but I thought could have been a 5. The Soto hoped for a 9 but thought maybe an 8.5, The Acuna was 9/10 to me, flip a coin and the Lewis I thought was an easy a 10 as I ever submitted
Here are the results the above mentioned cards are mine. The good news here is that my cards were not harshly singled out they just crapped on the entire thing
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 50392611 MINT 9 2018 Panini Donruss 317 Lamar Jackson Card
2 1 50392612 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1966 Topps 30 Pete Rose Card
3 1 50392613 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2018 Topps Pro Debut 133 Juan Soto Red Card
4 1 50392614 MINT 9 2019 Topps Heritage Real One Autographs RA Ronald Acuna Jr. Red Ink Card
5 1 50392615 MINT 9 2016 Bowman Draft Chrome Draft Picks Autographs Cdakl Kyle Lewis Card
6 1 50392616 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2020 Bowman Chrome Prospect Autographs Cparp Robert Puason Blue Refractor Card
7 1 50392617 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 249 JA Morant Card
My 15 card C.C. sub recently popped. All cards were around a grade lower than I thought they should be. And my Jim Brown rookie didn't even get graded. It was worth $300 when I sent it in. $3,000 now. I feel disgusted.
@bobbyw8469 said:
My 15 card C.C. sub recently popped. All cards were around a grade lower than I thought they should be. And my Jim Brown rookie didn't even get graded. It was worth $300 when I sent it in. $3,000 now. I feel disgusted.
sorry, bobby. know the feeling all too well. i remember anxiously awaiting for subs to pop. not so much anymore.
I had a small Economy order of 10 cards go from Assembly to QA2 today which was a pleasant surprise. However, like many others, I am not all that excited to see my grades. They are 76-78 Topps so I feel fortune is not on my side. It's almost like 8 is the new 9, 9 is the new 10, and you can simply forget about a 10 for these years currently.
While I won’t win any votes for prom king with this comment...
...if I was in charge, I would basically do exactly what everyone already thinks has been done, too.
If you hire a boatload of new graders, I think it makes good sense for a variety of reasons to tell them, implicitly or explicitly, Whatever you think it is, lower it by 1.
Believe it or not, it is at least partially the fact that the standards are so tight that keeps PSA on top. I think the idea that ‘if it fails at PSA, send it to another company’ is a good thing for their brand and it’s perception: the best cards are in PSA holders.
I don’t believe it would be wise to disseminate this information in a formal way but it seems informally the word is out: standards are now tighter under new management.
Communication is key but in many ways this is how communication happens in this day and age. Word of mouth (and tweets and Facebook posts and Submission clocks and result portals and YouTube videos, etc.) and while I wish things were a little more transparent, you can often read between the lines with the information that has been provided.
It is great to have this place to break down and analyze information as well as commiserate over cards we miss looking at while we hope for better days ahead.
Good luck everyone; I root for quick poppage for you all.
Curious about the rare, mysterious and beautiful 1951 Wheaties Premium Photos?
@1951WheatiesPremium said:
If you hire a boatload of new graders, I think it makes good sense for a variety of reasons to tell them, implicitly or explicitly, Whatever you think it is, lower it by 1.
Interesting take. I can't disagree more. The grade is the grade based off standards that are published. They should never implicitly or explicitly tell their graders to cheat their customers in an attempt to artificially keep numbers of high grade cards low. It's dishonest. We are sending in our cards to whom we deem is the preeminent voice in determining the grade. All that most of us want is for the grade to be accurate whether disappointed or not. If I inspect a card later and notice a flaw I missed I'm never upset with PSA. What upsets me is when I can not determine in any way shape or form how one card I sent in gets graded an 8 this week for example, and another copy of the same card that I had graded 2 years ago is a 9. How can the customer begin to determine what is appropriate for grading under these circumstances ?
Jeff
I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid. Collecting: post world war II HOF rookie 76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals) successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
@1951WheatiesPremium said:
If you hire a boatload of new graders, I think it makes good sense for a variety of reasons to tell them, implicitly or explicitly, Whatever you think it is, lower it by 1.
Interesting take. I can't disagree more. The grade is the grade based off standards that are published. They should never implicitly or explicitly tell their graders to cheat their customers in an attempt to artificially keep numbers of high grade cards low. It's dishonest. We are sending in our cards to whom we deem is the preeminent voice in determining the grade. All that most of us want is for the grade to be accurate whether disappointed or not. If I inspect a card later and notice a flaw I missed I'm never upset with PSA. What upsets me is when I can not determine in any way shape or form how one card I sent in gets graded an 8 this week for example, and another copy of the same card that I had graded 2 years ago is a 9. How can the customer begin to determine what is appropriate for grading under these circumstances ?
Jeff
Jeff,
You assigned the part about keeping populations low artificially and cheating customers. I didn’t say that and I think it’s more about newly hired graders not giving away high grades in error. Since we know there are lots of new ones, this makes a ton of sense based on known outcomes.
Not asking ANYONE to like it but rather seeking plausible explanations and this was the best I could come up with without being overtly negative.
Best,
Tim
Curious about the rare, mysterious and beautiful 1951 Wheaties Premium Photos?
@1951WheatiesPremium said:
If you hire a boatload of new graders, I think it makes good sense for a variety of reasons to tell them, implicitly or explicitly, Whatever you think it is, lower it by 1.
Interesting take. I can't disagree more. The grade is the grade based off standards that are published. They should never implicitly or explicitly tell their graders to cheat their customers in an attempt to artificially keep numbers of high grade cards low. It's dishonest. We are sending in our cards to whom we deem is the preeminent voice in determining the grade. All that most of us want is for the grade to be accurate whether disappointed or not. If I inspect a card later and notice a flaw I missed I'm never upset with PSA. What upsets me is when I can not determine in any way shape or form how one card I sent in gets graded an 8 this week for example, and another copy of the same card that I had graded 2 years ago is a 9. How can the customer begin to determine what is appropriate for grading under these circumstances ?
Jeff
Jeff,
You assigned the part about keeping populations low artificially and cheating customers. I didn’t say that and I think it’s more about newly hired graders not giving away high grades in error. Since we know there are lots of new ones, this makes a ton of sense based on known outcomes.
Not asking ANYONE to like it but rather seeking plausible explanations and this was the best I could come up with without being overtly negative.
Best,
Tim
Tim,
Gotcha. Yeah, I read into that a little too much apparently. I can agree that is a plausible reason we seem to be seeing lower grades, but I still don't believe it is an appropriate practice if it is indeed taking place.
Jeff
I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid. Collecting: post world war II HOF rookie 76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals) successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
@1951WheatiesPremium said:
If you hire a boatload of new graders, I think it makes good sense for a variety of reasons to tell them, implicitly or explicitly, Whatever you think it is, lower it by 1.
Interesting take. I can't disagree more. The grade is the grade based off standards that are published. They should never implicitly or explicitly tell their graders to cheat their customers in an attempt to artificially keep numbers of high grade cards low. It's dishonest. We are sending in our cards to whom we deem is the preeminent voice in determining the grade. All that most of us want is for the grade to be accurate whether disappointed or not. If I inspect a card later and notice a flaw I missed I'm never upset with PSA. What upsets me is when I can not determine in any way shape or form how one card I sent in gets graded an 8 this week for example, and another copy of the same card that I had graded 2 years ago is a 9. How can the customer begin to determine what is appropriate for grading under these circumstances ?
Jeff
Jeff,
You assigned the part about keeping populations low artificially and cheating customers. I didn’t say that and I think it’s more about newly hired graders not giving away high grades in error. Since we know there are lots of new ones, this makes a ton of sense based on known outcomes.
Not asking ANYONE to like it but rather seeking plausible explanations and this was the best I could come up with without being overtly negative.
Best,
Tim
Tim,
Gotcha. Yeah, I read into that a little too much apparently. I can agree that is a plausible reason we seem to be seeing lower grades, but I still don't believe it is an appropriate practice if it is indeed taking place.
Jeff
Jeff,
One of my favorite authors - Michael Crichton- wrote a really good book called Rising Sun (also a Sean Connery movie) wherein he outlines a cultural difference between Japanese and Americans, at least at the time. Americans, he said, spend too much time worrying about blame before the solution whereas the Japanese work on the solution first and blame after.
For whatever reason, that really stuck with me and has shaped the way I handle my own problems.
Find the solution first.
Best,
Tim
Curious about the rare, mysterious and beautiful 1951 Wheaties Premium Photos?
Under no circumstances is it acceptable for THE premier grading company to arbitrarily shift their grading standards. Isn’t the point of a third party grader to be as consistent as possible. I have 2700 cards there right now. I’ll be damned if I’m gonna get crushed on them and lose my hard earned money. I have 4 in q7. If I get killed on those, I will pull all of my orders that haven’t hit grading.
Really the 7 is the big ?. The 2? Ugh. The N8? Ok, we will see, as it was not in my practice as of that time to measure etc.
Pics when I get them....definitely some learning curve in there....definitely some WTF in there.
I have a group of 88 Jordans (6), 81 Magic (1) and 96 Kobe(2) coming in soon, as well as about 75 1986 Fleer basketball commons/stars mixed with a few biggies ( Malone, Mullin, Nique and all but the Jordan and Kareem stockers)
@blurryface said:
wait. explain how you could see the grades via registry and pre-official popping? thats an amazing glitch id like to know more about...
and congrats! “pretty happy” is excellent, imo!
Here's what I did in FIrefox: Go to the menu in the upper left and select "Orders". There's a column "Available To Add" and it indicated that I had 5 cards from this order available. Selecting the Order # from the first column took me to the following list (with Page Not Found errors for the "View Item" links):
I was able to successfully add these to my Registry via the button below the list. I still haven't received a notification email and can't access my grades through main PSA site.
FYI, my cards have been in the Registry for 2 days now, but I still can't see the grades outside the Registry, no poppage email, no shipping notification, no CC charge. Not complaining, they'll get here when they get here, but it sounds like this isn't the way things are supposed to work.
Didnt think Id have anything to post for awhile but surprisingly my Regular Sub that arrived on 3/16 and has been sitting there finally got logged into Research on 5/11 and then today I get notified its now in Grading
6 Card Sub we will see how long it takes to poke thru
Checked in 11/16
Been in grading for about a month, moved to assembly today! I'm curious on the results, as I have a 69 Mantle that I had since I was A kid. I kept it in a screwdown, so it will probably come back n8, but worth a shot.
Oldest order is an 80s special checked in 8/22. Been in grading forever...
Pleasantly surprised with the results, hopefully this keeps up for all of my currently outstanding subs. Thought I had a shot for at least one St.Louis Gem 10, but the grading gods said no.
Economy (15 vouchers)
Arrived Sep 28, 2020
Entered Nov 2, 2020
Popped May 13, 2021
1 1 51463200 MINT 9 1996 Topps 171 Allen Iverson NBA 50th
2 1 51463201 GEM MINT 10 1996 Topps 171 Allen Iverson
3 1 51463202 GEM MINT 10 1996 Topps 171 Allen Iverson
4 1 51463203 GEM MINT 10 1990 O-Pee-Chee Premier 50 Jaromir Jagr
5 1 51463204 MINT 9 1998 Upper Deck 234 Martin St. Louis
6 1 51463205 MINT 9 1998 Upper Deck 234 Martin St. Louis
7 1 51463206 MINT 9 1998 Upper Deck 234 Martin St. Louis
8 1 51463207 MINT 9 2007 Upper Deck 210 Patrick Kane
9 1 51463208 GEM MINT 10 2008 Upper Deck 245 Steven Stamkos
10 1 51463209 MINT 9 2009 Upper Deck 452 Brad Marchand
11 1 51463210 GEM MINT 10 2018 Upper Deck 491 Carter Hart
12 1 51463211 GEM MINT 10 2019 Upper Deck 471 Nick Suzuki
13 1 51463212 GEM MINT 10 2019 Upper Deck 471 Nick Suzuki
14 1 51463213 GEM MINT 10 2019 Upper Deck 201 Jack Hughes
15 1 51463214 GEM MINT 10 2019 Upper Deck 249 Quinn Hughes
16 1 51463215 GEM MINT 10 2019 Upper Deck 493 Cale Makar
17 1 51463216 GEM MINT 10 2019 Upper Deck Canvas C94 Cale Makar
18 1 51463217 GEM MINT 10 2014 Upper Deck Canvas C104 Leon Draisaitl
19 1 51463218 NEAR MINT 7 1984 O-Pee-Chee 67 Steve Yzerman
Collectors Club Platinum renewal 15 "free" modern, manufacturer certified, baseball autos (card graded only) submitted, apparently, just under the gun (before PSA "sold-out" of these).
Quick question... I just sent an autographed album page for authentication/encapsulation. It required me to use the paper form. Will this still show up on my normal page of orders with my graded card subs on the PSA website?
My small CC order just bumped to Assembly.
Order Type: CC vouchers
Card total: 2
Order delivered: 10-27
Order received per PSA: 11-20
Research & ID: 11-20
Grading: 4-8
Assembly: 5-13
QA1:
QA2:
Shipped:
@scmavl said:
Quick question... I just sent an autographed album page for authentication/encapsulation. It required me to use the paper form. Will this still show up on my normal page of orders with my graded card subs on the PSA website?
Yes.
Curious about the rare, mysterious and beautiful 1951 Wheaties Premium Photos?
@blurryface said:
wait. explain how you could see the grades via registry and pre-official popping? thats an amazing glitch id like to know more about...
and congrats! “pretty happy” is excellent, imo!
Here's what I did in FIrefox: Go to the menu in the upper left and select "Orders". There's a column "Available To Add" and it indicated that I had 5 cards from this order available. Selecting the Order # from the first column took me to the following list (with Page Not Found errors for the "View Item" links):
I was able to successfully add these to my Registry via the button below the list. I still haven't received a notification email and can't access my grades through main PSA site.
FYI, my cards have been in the Registry for 2 days now, but I still can't see the grades outside the Registry, no poppage email, no shipping notification, no CC charge. Not complaining, they'll get here when they get here, but it sounds like this isn't the way things are supposed to work.
Just to complete this saga, my grades officially popped today. So that was 3 days of advance notice via the Set Registry. If anyone else wants this sort of advance notice, it might be worth keeping an eye on "Orders" in your Set Registry account.
No "new" grading standards used for my order despite all the doom and gloom on these boards. Only surprise was the Topps Prime Wilson auto, was a BGS 8.5 crackout and I was hoping for a 9 but expecting an 8.
GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 249 JA Morant pack pulled
GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 254 Jaxson Hayes Choice Prizm-Green pack pulled
GEM MINT 10 2018 Panini Prizm 252 Kevin Durant Choice Prizm-Tiger Stripe pack pulled
MINT 9 2018 Panini Prizm 78 Trae Young pack pulled
MINT 9 2018 Panini Chronicles 255 Luka Doncic pack pulled
MINT 9 2018 Panini Donruss 177 Luka Doncic pack pulled
GEM MINT 10 2017 Panini Prizm 16 Jayson Tatum Silver Prizm pack pulled
GEM MINT 10 2015 Panini Prizm 335 Nikola Jokic pack pulled
GEM MINT 10 2003 Topps Chrome 36 Kobe Bryant pack pulled
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1997 Topps Chrome 171 Kobe Bryant pack pulled
GEM MINT 10 2012 Panini Contenders Rookie Stallions Autograph 20 Russell Wilson BGS RCR 9.5 #/25
MINT 9 2012 Panini Elite 190 Russell Wilson Turn of the Century Autograph ebay bought raw
EXCELLENT-MINT 6 2012 Topps Prime 78 Russell Wilson Autograph BGS 8.5 crackout
MINT 9 2013 Panini Prizm Perennial Draft Picks Prospect Signatures 97 Mookie Betts Prizm BGS 9 crackout
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2002 Bowman Chrome Draft Picks 44 Joey Votto Refractor ebay bought raw, everyone of these is OC T/B but was hoping to squeak out a 9
Welcome home Mr. Robinson. When I sent it in I was hoping for a 4, but now that I have it I think a 3 is justified. The centering of the card makes me love it, and probably why I was hoping for a 4.
I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid. Collecting: post world war II HOF rookie 76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals) successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
cc sub that was entered 11/20 went into assembly within the last few days so that's a pretty significant surge forward based on what has been reported of late...hopefully that carries over into reg/exp orders because I'm thinking once those start getting expedited as they normally would flow then all hands on deck to start blowing through the real backlog in the mountain of bulk that's literally been running backwards so far
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Expecting 8/9, got 3's. For 50$ regular cost. Definitely have submitted for the last time.
2
DATE RECEIVED
3/31/2021
DATE SHIPPED
N/A
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 57209473 VERY GOOD 3 1967 Topps Red Sox Stickers 29 Carl Yastrzemski for Mayor Card
2 1 57209474 VERY GOOD 3 1967 Topps Red Sox Stickers 32 Red Sox Logo Card
Used to working on HOF SS Baseballs--Now just '67 Sox Stickers and anything Boston related.
for anyone interested or doesn't want to wait, apparently sgc lowered their grading fee down to $30. think it was $75.
My oldest sub is still out there from August 12th. They say there are older subs than mine out there. I find that hard to believe. Not anyone on the boards anyway.
My oldest sub is from July 27 and is still in the grading stage.
hard to compare, but still have a sub that arrived 12/28/20 that still isn't marked as recvd or even logged yet. assured it has arrived via tracking number and verbal confirmation but....
Very surprised they got those three Value Modern ($20 per card) logged. Just barely over a month. Not bad.
where as i have express and regulars been there since 3/1, 3/19 that still aren't recvd. 😉
shoulda even been back by now. hopefully they get fast tracked once entered. but still.
Ahh, that sucks! How the hell does an Express sub not get logged in over two months?
hoping one of my ultra moderns that was just entered will pop this month. i just like to think it all evens out in the end. if ya think of it any other way, it'd drive ya crazy! 😉
If you want to get technical. my sub from August 12th was RECEIVED on June 18th. You have to go by when it was logged in though.
QA 2 and Grades: 5/10/21
Still waiting for the "official" notification, but the pizza tracker went to "Shipping" at noon and I can see the grades via the Set Registry tonight (I edited that information to the usual notification format for convenience), my guesses in ():
1 1 57740066 NM-MT 8 1955 Topps 19 Billy Herman (7/7.5)
2 1 57740067 NM 7 1955 Topps 155 Ed Mathews (7)
3 1 57740068 NM 7 1955 Topps 155 Ed Mathews (6/6.5)
4 1 57740069 EX-MT 6 1955 Topps 190 Gene Woodling (8)
5 1 57740070 NM 7 1977 Topps 580 George Brett (9)
The Good:
The Billy Herman was cracked out of an SGC 7.5 slab and one of the Mathews was cracked out of an SGC 7 slab. I got the second Matthews raw in an auction for just $36. Great results so far; two nice HOFer cards for my 1955 PSA set and a surprise 7 that I can sell to cover the total grading cost.
The Ugly:
The Woodling was cracked from a BVG 8 case, looked like a great card to me, and I took a bath on it. I pulled the Brett from vintage wax several months ago and it really looked beautiful, too. Hopefully i just missed something on both of those.
Oh well, I'm pretty happy with this, except I need to figure out what to do (if anything) with the Woodling. Now the long wait for the mostly 1955 Value Vintage submission.
wait. explain how you could see the grades via registry and pre-official popping? thats an amazing glitch id like to know more about...
and congrats! “pretty happy” is excellent, imo!
Here's what I did in FIrefox: Go to the menu in the upper left and select "Orders". There's a column "Available To Add" and it indicated that I had 5 cards from this order available. Selecting the Order # from the first column took me to the following list (with Page Not Found errors for the "View Item" links):
View Item 57740066 0101550190 1955 TOPPS 19 BILLY HERMAN 8 Cert Printed
View Item 57740067 0101551550 1955 TOPPS 155 ED MATHEWS 7 Cert Printed
View Item 57740068 0101551550 1955 TOPPS 155 ED MATHEWS 7 Cert Printed
View Item 57740069 0101551900 1955 TOPPS 190 GENE WOODLING 6 Cert Printed
View Item 57740070 0101775800 1977 TOPPS 580 GEORGE BRETT 7 Cert Printed
I was able to successfully add these to my Registry via the button below the list. I still haven't received a notification email and can't access my grades through main PSA site.
62 cards, economy
ultra modern
arrived: 9/03/20
recvd: 10/01/20
popped: 5/11/21
shipped: ???
only 23 gems. 37% gem rate. 4 cards came back psa 7s. again, ultra modern. something just isnt right.
extremely discouraged about a lot of things. finding it very difficult to stay positive.
only 23 gems. 37% gem rate. 4 cards came back psa 7s. again, ultra modern. something just isnt right.
ouch man, that is a blood bath especially seeing your other orders, your grading eye is strong. New graders erring on the side of caution is my guess.
Damn, sorry Blurry. Very frustrating. I have 2 orders in QA1 now and usually I’m excited about that but now I’m nervous and not sure if I want to know. My overall excitement about this hobby has taken a hit.
Well, good news is I'm getting an express order back to hold me over until all my bulks get finished. Bad news is it's a grade below what I was "hoping" for. I love the card. It's centered and has great eye appeal and I wanted it slabbed for protection, so I'm not overly concerned.
arrived 02/24/21
recvd 03/25/21
popped 05/11/21
my guess is in bold
1 1 57969774 VERY GOOD 3 1956 Topps 30 Jackie Robinson Gray Back Card (4)
Collecting:
post world war II HOF rookie
76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars
Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals)
successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
Just had an Economy pop that was received 9/1. Grades are disappointing but I am in no way surprised. 4 of these were mine. 3 were subbed for friends. The 4 cards I subbed were to be pc but now I will be selling because I will be disgusted every time I look at them. The Rose I hoped for a 6 but I thought could have been a 5. The Soto hoped for a 9 but thought maybe an 8.5, The Acuna was 9/10 to me, flip a coin and the Lewis I thought was an easy a 10 as I ever submitted
Here are the results the above mentioned cards are mine. The good news here is that my cards were not harshly singled out they just crapped on the entire thing
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 50392611 MINT 9 2018 Panini Donruss 317 Lamar Jackson Card
2 1 50392612 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1966 Topps 30 Pete Rose Card
3 1 50392613 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2018 Topps Pro Debut 133 Juan Soto Red Card
4 1 50392614 MINT 9 2019 Topps Heritage Real One Autographs RA Ronald Acuna Jr. Red Ink Card
5 1 50392615 MINT 9 2016 Bowman Draft Chrome Draft Picks Autographs Cdakl Kyle Lewis Card
6 1 50392616 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2020 Bowman Chrome Prospect Autographs Cparp Robert Puason Blue Refractor Card
7 1 50392617 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 249 JA Morant Card
My CC sub:
Received 09/17
Entered 10/17
Grading 11/2020
Assembly 05/04
QA1 05/10
QA2 05/11
Almost there...
Robb
My 15 card C.C. sub recently popped. All cards were around a grade lower than I thought they should be. And my Jim Brown rookie didn't even get graded. It was worth $300 when I sent it in. $3,000 now. I feel disgusted.
sorry, bobby. know the feeling all too well. i remember anxiously awaiting for subs to pop. not so much anymore.
“scoot over guys! need to make room for one more”
I had a small Economy order of 10 cards go from Assembly to QA2 today which was a pleasant surprise. However, like many others, I am not all that excited to see my grades. They are 76-78 Topps so I feel fortune is not on my side. It's almost like 8 is the new 9, 9 is the new 10, and you can simply forget about a 10 for these years currently.
While I won’t win any votes for prom king with this comment...
...if I was in charge, I would basically do exactly what everyone already thinks has been done, too.
If you hire a boatload of new graders, I think it makes good sense for a variety of reasons to tell them, implicitly or explicitly, Whatever you think it is, lower it by 1.
Believe it or not, it is at least partially the fact that the standards are so tight that keeps PSA on top. I think the idea that ‘if it fails at PSA, send it to another company’ is a good thing for their brand and it’s perception: the best cards are in PSA holders.
I don’t believe it would be wise to disseminate this information in a formal way but it seems informally the word is out: standards are now tighter under new management.
Communication is key but in many ways this is how communication happens in this day and age. Word of mouth (and tweets and Facebook posts and Submission clocks and result portals and YouTube videos, etc.) and while I wish things were a little more transparent, you can often read between the lines with the information that has been provided.
It is great to have this place to break down and analyze information as well as commiserate over cards we miss looking at while we hope for better days ahead.
Good luck everyone; I root for quick poppage for you all.
Curious about the rare, mysterious and beautiful 1951 Wheaties Premium Photos?
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/987963/1951-wheaties-premium-photos-set-registry#latest
Interesting take. I can't disagree more. The grade is the grade based off standards that are published. They should never implicitly or explicitly tell their graders to cheat their customers in an attempt to artificially keep numbers of high grade cards low. It's dishonest. We are sending in our cards to whom we deem is the preeminent voice in determining the grade. All that most of us want is for the grade to be accurate whether disappointed or not. If I inspect a card later and notice a flaw I missed I'm never upset with PSA. What upsets me is when I can not determine in any way shape or form how one card I sent in gets graded an 8 this week for example, and another copy of the same card that I had graded 2 years ago is a 9. How can the customer begin to determine what is appropriate for grading under these circumstances ?
Jeff
Collecting:
post world war II HOF rookie
76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars
Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals)
successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
The notions of tougher grading standards, while seeking more upcharges for nice hits would seem to be at loggerheads.
Bosox1976
Jeff,
You assigned the part about keeping populations low artificially and cheating customers. I didn’t say that and I think it’s more about newly hired graders not giving away high grades in error. Since we know there are lots of new ones, this makes a ton of sense based on known outcomes.
Not asking ANYONE to like it but rather seeking plausible explanations and this was the best I could come up with without being overtly negative.
Best,
Tim
Curious about the rare, mysterious and beautiful 1951 Wheaties Premium Photos?
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/987963/1951-wheaties-premium-photos-set-registry#latest
Tim,
Gotcha. Yeah, I read into that a little too much apparently. I can agree that is a plausible reason we seem to be seeing lower grades, but I still don't believe it is an appropriate practice if it is indeed taking place.
Jeff
Collecting:
post world war II HOF rookie
76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars
Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals)
successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
Jeff,
One of my favorite authors - Michael Crichton- wrote a really good book called Rising Sun (also a Sean Connery movie) wherein he outlines a cultural difference between Japanese and Americans, at least at the time. Americans, he said, spend too much time worrying about blame before the solution whereas the Japanese work on the solution first and blame after.
For whatever reason, that really stuck with me and has shaped the way I handle my own problems.
Find the solution first.
Best,
Tim
Curious about the rare, mysterious and beautiful 1951 Wheaties Premium Photos?
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/987963/1951-wheaties-premium-photos-set-registry#latest
Same boat- Mailed early Sept, Received9/22 Entered 10/22 Grading -Late Nov Assembly 5/10 QA1 5/11 QA2 5/12
Under no circumstances is it acceptable for THE premier grading company to arbitrarily shift their grading standards. Isn’t the point of a third party grader to be as consistent as possible. I have 2700 cards there right now. I’ll be damned if I’m gonna get crushed on them and lose my hard earned money. I have 4 in q7. If I get killed on those, I will pull all of my orders that haven’t hit grading.
They popped.
Hiroshima'd the Bench and Morgan rookies (2 and N8) (expecting 5-6 and 4)
Of the modern cards, they are all Ja/Zion/Tatis/LouBob
8 2019-2020 Base or Update Topps or Panini (Chronicles and Illusions) 2@10 3@9 2@8 1@7 ( 8s and 7s straight from rips into CS) -sad face-
4 Chrome cards( 2 Topps Chrome, 2 Optic) 1@10, 3@9
Really the 7 is the big ?. The 2? Ugh. The N8? Ok, we will see, as it was not in my practice as of that time to measure etc.
Pics when I get them....definitely some learning curve in there....definitely some WTF in there.
I have a group of 88 Jordans (6), 81 Magic (1) and 96 Kobe(2) coming in soon, as well as about 75 1986 Fleer basketball commons/stars mixed with a few biggies ( Malone, Mullin, Nique and all but the Jordan and Kareem stockers)
That is where the rubber will meet the road....
My value modern sub dated 10/23/20 just moved into grading today. My value vintage sub date 10/24/20 moved into grading last week on 5/6.
Late 60's and early to mid 70's non-sports
FYI, my cards have been in the Registry for 2 days now, but I still can't see the grades outside the Registry, no poppage email, no shipping notification, no CC charge. Not complaining, they'll get here when they get here, but it sounds like this isn't the way things are supposed to work.
Didnt think Id have anything to post for awhile but surprisingly my Regular Sub that arrived on 3/16 and has been sitting there finally got logged into Research on 5/11 and then today I get notified its now in Grading
6 Card Sub we will see how long it takes to poke thru
Some Economy movement!
Checked in 11/16
Been in grading for about a month, moved to assembly today! I'm curious on the results, as I have a 69 Mantle that I had since I was A kid. I kept it in a screwdown, so it will probably come back n8, but worth a shot.
Oldest order is an 80s special checked in 8/22. Been in grading forever...
Pleasantly surprised with the results, hopefully this keeps up for all of my currently outstanding subs. Thought I had a shot for at least one St.Louis Gem 10, but the grading gods said no.
Economy (15 vouchers)
Arrived Sep 28, 2020
Entered Nov 2, 2020
Popped May 13, 2021
1 1 51463200 MINT 9 1996 Topps 171 Allen Iverson NBA 50th
2 1 51463201 GEM MINT 10 1996 Topps 171 Allen Iverson
3 1 51463202 GEM MINT 10 1996 Topps 171 Allen Iverson
4 1 51463203 GEM MINT 10 1990 O-Pee-Chee Premier 50 Jaromir Jagr
5 1 51463204 MINT 9 1998 Upper Deck 234 Martin St. Louis
6 1 51463205 MINT 9 1998 Upper Deck 234 Martin St. Louis
7 1 51463206 MINT 9 1998 Upper Deck 234 Martin St. Louis
8 1 51463207 MINT 9 2007 Upper Deck 210 Patrick Kane
9 1 51463208 GEM MINT 10 2008 Upper Deck 245 Steven Stamkos
10 1 51463209 MINT 9 2009 Upper Deck 452 Brad Marchand
11 1 51463210 GEM MINT 10 2018 Upper Deck 491 Carter Hart
12 1 51463211 GEM MINT 10 2019 Upper Deck 471 Nick Suzuki
13 1 51463212 GEM MINT 10 2019 Upper Deck 471 Nick Suzuki
14 1 51463213 GEM MINT 10 2019 Upper Deck 201 Jack Hughes
15 1 51463214 GEM MINT 10 2019 Upper Deck 249 Quinn Hughes
16 1 51463215 GEM MINT 10 2019 Upper Deck 493 Cale Makar
17 1 51463216 GEM MINT 10 2019 Upper Deck Canvas C94 Cale Makar
18 1 51463217 GEM MINT 10 2014 Upper Deck Canvas C104 Leon Draisaitl
19 1 51463218 NEAR MINT 7 1984 O-Pee-Chee 67 Steve Yzerman
I have two subs in QA2 and one in QA1. One of the QA2 has been that way for almost 2 weeks.
Consider yourself lucky as my dates are similar with a 1 card PSA/DNA crossover that is still in the grading stage.
arrived: 7/28/20
logged: 9/10/20
assembly: 5/12/21
qa1: 5/12/21
qa2: 5/12/21
popped: 5/13/21
I had this one shoot through all of the steps yesterday
Pleased with the results as the grades were as expected
eBay Store
Greg Maddux #1 Master SetGreg Maddux #2 Basic Set
UPDATE
Collectors Club Platinum renewal 15 "free" modern, manufacturer certified, baseball autos (card graded only) submitted, apparently, just under the gun (before PSA "sold-out" of these).
Sent to PSA: 9/14/2020 (=8 months ago)
Arrived at PSA: 9/18/2020
Logged: 10/15/2020 (=7 months ago)
"Arrived"/"Prep"/"Research & ID": 10/15/2020
Grading: 11/13/2020 (=6 months ago)
Assembly: 4/29/2021 (=2 weeks ago)
QA1: 5/13/2021
Quick question... I just sent an autographed album page for authentication/encapsulation. It required me to use the paper form. Will this still show up on my normal page of orders with my graded card subs on the PSA website?
My small CC order just bumped to Assembly.
Order Type: CC vouchers
Card total: 2
Order delivered: 10-27
Order received per PSA: 11-20
Research & ID: 11-20
Grading: 4-8
Assembly: 5-13
QA1:
QA2:
Shipped:
Eric
Erikthredd’s MJ Collection: https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/publishedset/395035
Erikthredd’s Nike Air Jordan Collection: https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/basketball/key-card-sets/nike-poster-cards-michael-jordan-1985-1992/alltimeset/408486
Yes.
Curious about the rare, mysterious and beautiful 1951 Wheaties Premium Photos?
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/987963/1951-wheaties-premium-photos-set-registry#latest
Just to complete this saga, my grades officially popped today. So that was 3 days of advance notice via the Set Registry. If anyone else wants this sort of advance notice, it might be worth keeping an eye on "Orders" in your Set Registry account.
@MountainsOfSlabs
this is great info, thank you
Ok , 2 of mine on QA2, and one is on shipping, but cant see what they are. No email yet.
No "new" grading standards used for my order despite all the doom and gloom on these boards. Only surprise was the Topps Prime Wilson auto, was a BGS 8.5 crackout and I was hoping for a 9 but expecting an 8.
My CC sub:
Received 09/17
Entered 10/17
Grading 11/2020
Assembly 05/04
QA1 05/10
QA2 05/11
Popped 05/14
Grades:
GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 249 JA Morant pack pulled
GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 254 Jaxson Hayes Choice Prizm-Green pack pulled
GEM MINT 10 2018 Panini Prizm 252 Kevin Durant Choice Prizm-Tiger Stripe pack pulled
MINT 9 2018 Panini Prizm 78 Trae Young pack pulled
MINT 9 2018 Panini Chronicles 255 Luka Doncic pack pulled
MINT 9 2018 Panini Donruss 177 Luka Doncic pack pulled
GEM MINT 10 2017 Panini Prizm 16 Jayson Tatum Silver Prizm pack pulled
GEM MINT 10 2015 Panini Prizm 335 Nikola Jokic pack pulled
GEM MINT 10 2003 Topps Chrome 36 Kobe Bryant pack pulled
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1997 Topps Chrome 171 Kobe Bryant pack pulled
GEM MINT 10 2012 Panini Contenders Rookie Stallions Autograph 20 Russell Wilson BGS RCR 9.5 #/25
MINT 9 2012 Panini Elite 190 Russell Wilson Turn of the Century Autograph ebay bought raw
EXCELLENT-MINT 6 2012 Topps Prime 78 Russell Wilson Autograph BGS 8.5 crackout
MINT 9 2013 Panini Prizm Perennial Draft Picks Prospect Signatures 97 Mookie Betts Prizm BGS 9 crackout
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2002 Bowman Chrome Draft Picks 44 Joey Votto Refractor ebay bought raw, everyone of these is OC T/B but was hoping to squeak out a 9
Robb
Welcome home Mr. Robinson. When I sent it in I was hoping for a 4, but now that I have it I think a 3 is justified. The centering of the card makes me love it, and probably why I was hoping for a 4.
Collecting:
post world war II HOF rookie
76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars
Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals)
successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
cc sub that was entered 11/20 went into assembly within the last few days so that's a pretty significant surge forward based on what has been reported of late...hopefully that carries over into reg/exp orders because I'm thinking once those start getting expedited as they normally would flow then all hands on deck to start blowing through the real backlog in the mountain of bulk that's literally been running backwards so far
26 card economy order jumped from assembly to QA2 today.
Entered 9/27/20
Grading 10/21/20
Assembly 5/4/21
QA1 5/14/21
QA2 5/14/21