@blurryface said:
sources indicate $50 economy is the new floor once put back in place.
I don't think they can handle the volume that comes in when they are priced at anything less frankly...based on how little they've caught up w relatively few orders still trickling in is what I'm basing that on. If things get slow they'll simply run specials that appeal to the many who were dormant. I don't think they've been able to find graders beyond their core staff because they would have been able to cover far more ground after a month than this virtual standstill state that it's currently struggling to get ahead of. No specials equal no memberships because the voucher being at such a long turnaround time won't sell them alone like it did before...which would be a big contributing factor for making the cost of economy $50. It would make the pitch of savings theoretically an easy sell ($500 value (10 card voucher instead of 15) for only $299!) but I have my doubts that it would be received that way
I agree with you in logic and with regard to current premise; however PSA is basically going to be turning their backs on a sizable group of submitters who have significantly helped make them successful over the past several decades. Plus, they are no longer consistent nor accurate these days. $50 for any card? No thanks. It is simply not a remotely reasonable option for a 77 Topps Toby Harrah.
you won't get any rebuttal from me...I think there's a better/more profitable angle to take personally because of the blatant disregard of what built the foundation as you mentioned. Not much loyalty these days unfortunately so it's common to see the willingness to sacrifice regulars in lieu of greed for lack of desire in sugarcoating. I believe its publicly traded stock now so w that you welcome influences that won't necessarily benefit the customer base of any kind, so as long as it bumps the stock a fraction of a percent...welcome to the era of "scrap the cust service dept" because in case you haven't noticed there just aren't any anymore...and for those remaining they're trained to put you through a meat grinder for hours just to get ultimately hung up on i.e. AT&T
@Tron said:
you won't get any rebuttal from me...I think there's a better/more profitable angle to take personally because of the blatant disregard of what built the foundation as you mentioned. Not much loyalty these days unfortunately so it's common to see the willingness to sacrifice regulars in lieu of greed for lack of desire in sugarcoating. I believe its publicly traded stock now so w that you welcome influences that won't necessarily benefit the customer base of any kind, so as long as it bumps the stock a fraction of a percent...welcome to the era of "scrap the cust service dept" because in case you haven't noticed there just aren't any anymore...and for those remaining they're trained to put you through a meat grinder for hours just to get ultimately hung up on i.e. AT&T
Thank you for an honest, well-stated reply and I am SO glad you didn't take my response as a personal attack. Very refreshing!!!!!!!
@Tron said:
you won't get any rebuttal from me...I think there's a better/more profitable angle to take personally because of the blatant disregard of what built the foundation as you mentioned. Not much loyalty these days unfortunately so it's common to see the willingness to sacrifice regulars in lieu of greed for lack of desire in sugarcoating. I believe its publicly traded stock now so w that you welcome influences that won't necessarily benefit the customer base of any kind, so as long as it bumps the stock a fraction of a percent...welcome to the era of "scrap the cust service dept" because in case you haven't noticed there just aren't any anymore...and for those remaining they're trained to put you through a meat grinder for hours just to get ultimately hung up on i.e. AT&T
you realize they just went from being a publicly traded company to a private company, right?
@Tron said:
you won't get any rebuttal from me...I think there's a better/more profitable angle to take personally because of the blatant disregard of what built the foundation as you mentioned. Not much loyalty these days unfortunately so it's common to see the willingness to sacrifice regulars in lieu of greed for lack of desire in sugarcoating. I believe its publicly traded stock now so w that you welcome influences that won't necessarily benefit the customer base of any kind, so as long as it bumps the stock a fraction of a percent...welcome to the era of "scrap the cust service dept" because in case you haven't noticed there just aren't any anymore...and for those remaining they're trained to put you through a meat grinder for hours just to get ultimately hung up on i.e. AT&T
you realize they just went from being a publicly traded company to a private company, right?
yes. That was not really acknowledged nor the point. Sorry. However, it is still unethical to change the rules midstream. Profitable? short-term for sure. And, **my money **still spends where I choose to spend it. At the long, long, end of the day, it is ALWAYS a buyer's market. We will see, I suppose. Still, it feels like a royal F U from "taking my hacks." He is completely out of touch with the collector. He knows the investor well.
@Tron said:
you won't get any rebuttal from me...I think there's a better/more profitable angle to take personally because of the blatant disregard of what built the foundation as you mentioned. Not much loyalty these days unfortunately so it's common to see the willingness to sacrifice regulars in lieu of greed for lack of desire in sugarcoating. I believe its publicly traded stock now so w that you welcome influences that won't necessarily benefit the customer base of any kind, so as long as it bumps the stock a fraction of a percent...welcome to the era of "scrap the cust service dept" because in case you haven't noticed there just aren't any anymore...and for those remaining they're trained to put you through a meat grinder for hours just to get ultimately hung up on i.e. AT&T
you realize they just went from being a publicly traded company to a private company, right?
yes. That was not really acknowledged nor the point. Sorry. However, it is still unethical to change the rules midstream. Profitable? short-term for sure. And, **my money **still spends where I choose to spend it. At the long, long, end of the day, it is ALWAYS a buyer's market. We will see, I suppose. Still, it feels like a royal F U from "taking my hacks." He is completely out of touch with the collector. He knows the investor well.
@Tron said:
you won't get any rebuttal from me...I think there's a better/more profitable angle to take personally because of the blatant disregard of what built the foundation as you mentioned. Not much loyalty these days unfortunately so it's common to see the willingness to sacrifice regulars in lieu of greed for lack of desire in sugarcoating. I believe its publicly traded stock now so w that you welcome influences that won't necessarily benefit the customer base of any kind, so as long as it bumps the stock a fraction of a percent...welcome to the era of "scrap the cust service dept" because in case you haven't noticed there just aren't any anymore...and for those remaining they're trained to put you through a meat grinder for hours just to get ultimately hung up on i.e. AT&T
you realize they just went from being a publicly traded company to a private company, right?
yes. That was not really acknowledged nor the point. Sorry. However, it is still unethical to change the rules midstream. Profitable? short-term for sure. And, **my money **still spends where I choose to spend it. At the long, long, end of the day, it is ALWAYS a buyer's market. We will see, I suppose. Still, it feels like a royal F U from "taking my hacks." He is completely out of touch with the collector. He knows the investor well.
i was quoting tron! 😉
Sorry my man. I am on your side 99% of the time. Bobby
My brother and I joke all the time that card collectors are addicts. We are addicts. Lol. PSA will run specials,,,I'm sure of it. Probably not right away because they have millions of cards basically falling out of the building. At $50 per card they are trying to thin things out a bit at the moment. If they stuck with only $50 they would be out of business. To keep the registry going they will have to run specials that are for specific years. I can't even man up at over $7-$8 for things like 72 commons that are NM-MT because in many cases they're only worth $6 or so. Same for 73, 74,75,76 and even worse for later years. PSA has lot of great challenges ahead of them. It's all about the way they conduct their business from this point forward. Someone needs to figure out the barcode and how to enter and grade the subs in some kind of orderly fashion. Hearing of bulk entered before EXPRESS is a breakdown in the system. A failure in that regard. I'm assuming ownership will look into this. What does PSA do when their local USPS can't handle the volume...????? I mean that is a completely different problem all of it's own. PSA needs an East coast office that can grade cards. One where graders and other employees can work and live in the area. Don't open a facility in Beverly Hills, Paris, Miami Beach....etc.
@Mickey71 said:
My brother and I joke all the time that card collectors are addicts. We are addicts. Lol. PSA will run specials,,,I'm sure of it. Probably not right away because they have millions of cards basically falling out of the building. At $50 per card they are trying to thin things out a bit at the moment. If they stuck with only $50 they would be out of business. To keep the registry going they will have to run specials that are for specific years. I can't even man up at over $7-$8 for things like 72 commons that are NM-MT because in many cases they're only worth $6 or so. Same for 73, 74,75,76 and even worse for later years. PSA has lot of great challenges ahead of them. It's all about the way they conduct their business from this point forward. Someone needs to figure out the barcode and how to enter and grade the subs in some kind of orderly fashion. Hearing of bulk entered before EXPRESS is a breakdown in the system. A failure in that regard.. I'm assuming ownership will look into this. What does PSA do when their local USPS can't handle the volume...????? I mean that is a completely different problem all of it's own. PSA needs an East coast office that can grade cards. One where graders and other employees can work and live in the area. Don't open a facility in Beverly Hills, Paris, Miami Beach....etc.
here, here!
and exactly. but we can erase “hearing”. seeing, rather subbing is believing. its actually been going on since mid-janurary. people are just now starting to realize it is the problem.
@Mickey71 said:
My brother and I joke all the time that card collectors are addicts. We are addicts. Lol. PSA will run specials,,,I'm sure of it. Probably not right away because they have millions of cards basically falling out of the building. At $50 per card they are trying to thin things out a bit at the moment. If they stuck with only $50 they would be out of business. To keep the registry going they will have to run specials that are for specific years. I can't even man up at over $7-$8 for things like 72 commons that are NM-MT because in many cases they're only worth $6 or so. Same for 73, 74,75,76 and even worse for later years. PSA has lot of great challenges ahead of them. It's all about the way they conduct their business from this point forward. Someone needs to figure out the barcode and how to enter and grade the subs in some kind of orderly fashion. Hearing of bulk entered before EXPRESS is a breakdown in the system. A failure in that regard.. I'm assuming ownership will look into this. What does PSA do when their local USPS can't handle the volume...????? I mean that is a completely different problem all of it's own. PSA needs an East coast office that can grade cards. One where graders and other employees can work and live in the area. Don't open a facility in Beverly Hills, Paris, Miami Beach....etc.
here, here!
and exactly. and we can erase “hearing”. seeing, rather subbing is believing:
(not entered)
(all this lower entered, that arrived after)
They need to figure that out. I'm just going to be patient as I have about 100-200 vintage to sub; but only with reasonable prices. I can wait 10 years to sub them...who knows though. Maybe it will never happen. I do not depend on cards to pay my bills, or all of this would be a different story.
@Mickey71 said:
My brother and I joke all the time that card collectors are addicts. We are addicts. Lol. PSA will run specials,,,I'm sure of it. Probably not right away because they have millions of cards basically falling out of the building. At $50 per card they are trying to thin things out a bit at the moment. If they stuck with only $50 they would be out of business. To keep the registry going they will have to run specials that are for specific years. I can't even man up at over $7-$8 for things like 72 commons that are NM-MT because in many cases they're only worth $6 or so. Same for 73, 74,75,76 and even worse for later years. PSA has lot of great challenges ahead of them. It's all about the way they conduct their business from this point forward. Someone needs to figure out the barcode and how to enter and grade the subs in some kind of orderly fashion. Hearing of bulk entered before EXPRESS is a breakdown in the system. A failure in that regard.. I'm assuming ownership will look into this. What does PSA do when their local USPS can't handle the volume...????? I mean that is a completely different problem all of it's own. PSA needs an East coast office that can grade cards. One where graders and other employees can work and live in the area. Don't open a facility in Beverly Hills, Paris, Miami Beach....etc.
here, here!
and exactly. and we can erase “hearing”. seeing, rather subbing is believing:
(not entered)
(all this lower entered, that arrived after)
They need to figure that out. I'm just going to be patient as I have about 100-200 vintage to sub; but only with reasonable prices. I can wait 10 years to sub them...who knows though. Maybe it will never happen. I do not depend on cards to pay my bills, or all of this would be a different story.
i have a huge pile that is/was ready to go myself. wouldnt even send’em in right now if they did open it back up. i dont depend on cards to pay my bills either, but i dont need them to create headaches and frustrations either. thats for sure. as you mentioned, theres a ton of things that need to be ironed out. i will say, the overall backwards regression has me stumped. i was expecting much better things.
@Mickey71 said:
My brother and I joke all the time that card collectors are addicts. We are addicts. Lol. PSA will run specials,,,I'm sure of it. Probably not right away because they have millions of cards basically falling out of the building. At $50 per card they are trying to thin things out a bit at the moment. If they stuck with only $50 they would be out of business. To keep the registry going they will have to run specials that are for specific years. I can't even man up at over $7-$8 for things like 72 commons that are NM-MT because in many cases they're only worth $6 or so. Same for 73, 74,75,76 and even worse for later years. PSA has lot of great challenges ahead of them. It's all about the way they conduct their business from this point forward. Someone needs to figure out the barcode and how to enter and grade the subs in some kind of orderly fashion. Hearing of bulk entered before EXPRESS is a breakdown in the system. A failure in that regard.. I'm assuming ownership will look into this. What does PSA do when their local USPS can't handle the volume...????? I mean that is a completely different problem all of it's own. PSA needs an East coast office that can grade cards. One where graders and other employees can work and live in the area. Don't open a facility in Beverly Hills, Paris, Miami Beach....etc.
here, here!
and exactly. and we can erase “hearing”. seeing, rather subbing is believing:
(not entered)
(all this lower entered, that arrived after)
They need to figure that out. I'm just going to be patient as I have about 100-200 vintage to sub; but only with reasonable prices. I can wait 10 years to sub them...who knows though. Maybe it will never happen. I do not depend on cards to pay my bills, or all of this would be a different story.
i have a huge pile that is/was ready to go myself. wouldnt even send’em in right now if they did open it back up. i dont depend on cards to pay my bills either, but i dont need them to create headaches and frustrations either. thats for sure. as you mentioned, theres a ton of things that need to be ironed out. i will say, the overall backwards regression has me stumped. i was expecting much better things.
I agree also. I really do hope it gets cleared up as I like cards as a way to relax and have fun. And yes, no one needs headaches from them. Can be very frustrating. Good luck on all of your subs.
@Mickey71 said:
PSA needs an East coast office that can grade cards. One where graders and other employees can work and live in the area. Don't open a facility in Beverly Hills, Paris, Miami Beach....etc.
Totally agree. 3-4 offices throughout the country in locations with a reasonable cost of living and affordable real estate (e.g., Indianapolis, Cincinnati, Charlotte, Phoenix, KC, STL, Atlanta, Pittsburgh) would seem to make a lot of sense.
@Mickey71 said:
PSA needs an East coast office that can grade cards. One where graders and other employees can work and live in the area. Don't open a facility in Beverly Hills, Paris, Miami Beach....etc.
Totally agree. 3-4 offices throughout the country in locations with a reasonable cost of living and affordable real estate (e.g., Indianapolis, Cincinnati, Charlotte, Phoenix, KC, STL, Atlanta, Pittsburgh) would seem to make a lot of sense.
should just go w detroit. theres a warehouse there w half of whats on the graded block already! 😉
A little movement this weekend on an Express sub:
Arrived 3/3
Logged 3/31
Went into grading about a week ago, then assembly this weekend, and QA1 overnight.
Another Express sub that was logged the same day is still in Research & ID, although it is an auto sub.
@scmavl said:
A little movement this weekend on an Express sub:
Arrived 3/3
Logged 3/31
Went into grading about a week ago, then assembly this weekend, and QA1 overnight.
Another Express sub that was logged the same day is still in Research & ID, although it is an auto sub.
Same here. Finally got movement on my 1 card express. Arrived 02/24/21 logged 03/25/21 grading 4/12/21 and assembly 5/3. Mine is a 56 jackie robinson grey back. Not an obscure card or a unicorn bedazzled rainbow refractor either. You would think it would be pretty straight forward to grade it being a pretty common card and only a 1 card order. But I'm glad to finally have movement after 3 weeks of a standstill.
Jeff
I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid. Collecting: post world war II HOF rookie 76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals) successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
over 2 months for an express... that is unreal. I did get my 21 card economy order delivered today. 8 months and 9 days after I shipped it. I think the labels were correct and I didn't see any scratches or anything obvious on my quick-inspection. It was odd that it showed "delivered" and it requires a signature. I go out to my mailbox and there it is. USPS says it was signed for my some R. Oll. No idea who that is so I'm glad they made it to the correct mailbox.
If we haven't realized that cards moved way past the collector in the past year then we have been asleep. It is not greedy PSA, it is what the new buyers dictated and the "collectors" who jumped in to feed them. Unfortunately as long as the buyers are around who are not collectors, it is going to take quite a while to filter through the system to any normal approach.
PSA does not have a duty to the collector, I am sure they would like to do what they can which will probably be how they handle specials. The reality is if they set the price at a minimum $50 which I doubt will last long because they won't keep up , as long as the non-collector population keeps flooding them what do you expect them to do? Do I like it as someone who gets therapy from subbing 70's cards for $8 bucks a piece , no I don't but it is the reality.
And everyone who is spelling dome and gloom for not thinking of the collector is a bit out of touch. Once the non-collector money starts to slow , they will offer services to bring the collectors back and we will all flock to PSA , even the majority of guys on this board who are saying I am done(I am included in that group so I am not poking fingers at anyone in particular)
per the "check your cards" things, here's another head scratcher. this time, graciously deemed a 7 vs a 6.
i know nat is a huge anti-trim guy and w/ genamint fingerprint technology, perhaps they are setting traps to catch the trimmers? not sure what else it could be.
i quit trusting my eyes a long time ago. but. w/ this set up, i do know there is zero way i would have missed this:
just noticed how the edge wear stops at the inside bumpers. on both of them? cant be coincidence, right?
@OAKESY25 said:
I don't know what you are getting at? are you saying it is trimmed? it looks not trimmed with a dinged corner to me?
in other news,, my 2 express orders got logged today, received 3/8 for what it is worth
no. this is a card in one of my subs that just came back. i never would have sent this card in as a bulk, let alone as a regular order. 100% unequivocally damaged in house.
what i'm getting at, is this is now a trimmers aqua-dreama. a $100 card that could easily be turned into a $5k card...prior to genamint fingerprint technology. bc that's the only thing that makes since to me. how can this much damage be done to a card w/o them saying "my bad". are they setting traps for trimmers? i don't know. i do know that there is zero way, w my set up and subbing process that this card was sent to them in this condition.
@blurryface - I think I am picking up what you are putting down but are you specifically referring to this part of the press-release " – by identifying the exact card in order to track provenance, resubmissions, condition changes and other attributes over time." If so, what is your specific takeaway from the edges? Do you think it happened while it was there? It was deliberately added to make that identification easier?
@envoy982 said: @blurryface - I think I am picking up what you are putting down but are you specifically referring to this part of the press-release " – by identifying the exact card in order to track provenance, resubmissions, condition changes and other attributes over time." If so, what is your specific takeaway from the edges? Do you think it happened while it was there? It was deliberately added to make that identification easier?
no. would never say done deliberately. but i am noticing a timing issue from the time popped, to the time shipped on these orders that have 6s or 7s. i'm also noticing that similar delay on cards that also get upcharged, which that delay is due to in-house imaging. perhaps when a card is damaged like this, they are doing the image/genamint fingerprint thing (which would explain a delay vs shipping w/i a day or two) to go into the database. again, this would be an extremely, and i mean extremely easy target for a trimmer both for the recent surge in popularity & risk vs reward angle.
cliff notes: i'm basically reaching & praying there's a bigger reason as to why a card that was damaged in house, wasnt disclosed and then took 5 days to ship once the sub popped other than them just saying "eff it, send it".
@Frozencaribou said:
If the Griffey 1989 rookies are trending lower now, before the presumed massive influx of 1989 Griffey’s have been graded and returned to their owners, what will happen in the next 6-9 months for his psa 10’s and the marketplace that they will be entering.
That’s one player and one sport and one collecting niche, but it does make one wonder what the attitude will be for all those customers who missed a long selling window due to turnaround times.
No doubt, it’s been a banner year for PSA and all of us that have cards swept up in the boom.
It will be interesting to see how we all fare as millions of graded cards come into the marketplace perhaps six months too late.
I was wondering the same thing. I am waiting on 50 1989 Griffeys to come back.
Gretzky,Ripken, and Sandberg collection. Still trying to complete 1975 Topps baseball set from when I was a kid.
That’s one player and one sport and one collecting niche, but it does make one wonder what the attitude will be for all those customers who missed a long selling window due to turnaround times.
I was wondering the same thing. I am waiting on 50 1989 Griffeys to come back.
Me being one of those! I am a very very small player and tying up $3+ Grand in grading fees is simply not sustainable...,And if I'm screwed on the outcomes! Well its been mentioned, this may be it for me and PSA! Got back in Cause I missed collecting AND I thought I could make a couple bucks in Retirement.....Now, not so much!!!
9 Subs, another 1-2 weeks ABSOLUTELY ZERO movement out of R & I, 9 Subs in R & I, One since last August!
10527397 02/17/21 04/08/21 N/A See Details 26 Value Modern (1972- 2017)
22204496 10478355 01/20/21 03/29/21 N/A See Details 22 Value Modern (1972- 2017)
22180512 10478295 01/19/21 03/18/21 N/A See Details 20 Value Vintage (1971-)
22157840 10458692 01/06/21 03/04/21 N/A See Details 20 Value Modern (1972- 2017)
22157821 10458614 01/06/21 03/04/21 N/A See Details 36 Value Vintage (1971-)
22027958 10405226 11/24/20 12/01/20 N/A See Details 22 Value Vintage (1971-)
22085052 10363151 10/21/20 01/20/21 N/A See Details 24 Monthly Special 17
22075604 10348192 10/05/20 01/13/21 N/A See Details 88 Monthly Special 1
21973288 10292632 08/13/20 10/16/20 N/A See Details 20 Monthly Special 1
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 56003053 MINT 9 2020 Panini Donruss Optic Downtown DT40 Joe Burrow Card
2 1 56003054 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Fortnite 300 Luxe Holofoil Card
3 1 N9: NOT GRADED No Spec Info, No Grade, No Charge Card
gonna start adding the actual “ship” date. line 3 was an undertaker rookie printing plate. can never figure out psa stances on plates. some they do, some they dont. no biggie though. did not expect a 10 on the burrow downtown. luxe holo 10 is pretty big though. they are still in the dog house though. 😉
1 card super express
Shipped 4/26
Arrived 4/27
Entered ->grading 4/29
Assembly 4/30
QA1 4/30 QA2 5/3
Let the obsessive checking begin!
I’m nervous for this one. I feel like I always miss a spider wrinkle on the ‘70 tall boys.
Here’s what I have self-subbed so far:
My CC sub of 15 cards that was received on 09/17 and entered on 10/17 just went into assembly. I haven't checked in a few days so could have been any time since last Friday.
15 Card Voucher submission
Mailed 9/16/20
Logged 10/15/20
Entered Grading 11/12/20
5/3/21 received notice of one card not meeting voucher submission rules due to valuation.... which I'll gladly take!
Although I'm happy about the 10, I'm disappointed about the 7 for the Jordan stickers. One of them was previously graded 8(ST). I cracked it out, cleaned the stain and re-submitted. Was hoping for a 8 without qualifiers. Bummer. I also thought the Rodman and Miller looked just like the Stockton, yet they both got 8. Go figure.
@brion8 said:
15 Card Voucher submission
Mailed 9/16/20
Logged 10/15/20
Entered Grading 11/12/20
5/3/21 received notice of one card not meeting voucher submission rules due to valuation.... which I'll gladly take!
Although I'm happy about the 10, I'm disappointed about the 7 for the Jordan stickers. One of them was previously graded 8(ST). I cracked it out, cleaned the stain and re-submitted. Was hoping for a 8 without qualifiers. Bummer. I also thought the Rodman and Miller looked just like the Stockton, yet they both got 8. Go figure.
Nice sub man, Great hit on the Stockton !
I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid. Collecting: post world war II HOF rookie 76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals) successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
@brion8 said:
15 Card Voucher submission
Mailed 9/16/20
Logged 10/15/20
Entered Grading 11/12/20
5/3/21 received notice of one card not meeting voucher submission rules due to valuation.... which I'll gladly take!
Although I'm happy about the 10, I'm disappointed about the 7 for the Jordan stickers. One of them was previously graded 8(ST). I cracked it out, cleaned the stain and re-submitted. Was hoping for a 8 without qualifiers. Bummer. I also thought the Rodman and Miller looked just like the Stockton, yet they both got 8. Go figure.
are they not updating the CTD page? doesnt seem like anything has moved in a bit? is it just like at any job I have ever had that a change is put into motion then slowly but surely it dies and everyone just continues doing exactly what they did before?
@brion8 said:
15 Card Voucher submission
Mailed 9/16/20
Logged 10/15/20
Entered Grading 11/12/20
5/3/21 received notice of one card not meeting voucher submission rules due to valuation.... which I'll gladly take!
Although I'm happy about the 10, I'm disappointed about the 7 for the Jordan stickers. One of them was previously graded 8(ST). I cracked it out, cleaned the stain and re-submitted. Was hoping for a 8 without qualifiers. Bummer. I also thought the Rodman and Miller looked just like the Stockton, yet they both got 8. Go figure.
Slight damage to the surface while cleaning the stain? The stain hid a flaw?
@brion8 said:
15 Card Voucher submission
Mailed 9/16/20
Logged 10/15/20
Entered Grading 11/12/20
5/3/21 received notice of one card not meeting voucher submission rules due to valuation.... which I'll gladly take!
Although I'm happy about the 10, I'm disappointed about the 7 for the Jordan stickers. One of them was previously graded 8(ST). I cracked it out, cleaned the stain and re-submitted. Was hoping for a 8 without qualifiers. Bummer. I also thought the Rodman and Miller looked just like the Stockton, yet they both got 8. Go figure.
seems like a weak upcharge, card is going for 800 these days , was going about the same back in october when it was entered. seams a bit nit picky to me to upcharge that card. but I am hearing a lot more of these days on the upcharges
since they charged you the full $50, do you at least still have a grading voucher on your account?
IMO not really. The CTD tracker, while imperfect, isn't indicating net days ahead progress. Even if you account for the idea that subs 2 to 4 weeks ahead of the CTD date are popping and/or completing...well, for everything below regular it means w/o an increase in pace, cards that got in before the shutoff have a good chance of not being seen again until the turning of the year.
Had good movement today, my 2 express orders logged yesterday went into grading today and 3 of my economy orders entered 10/21 all went into assembly today. I have 1 more economy a 1 card order I am hoping goes into assembly too.
@bobbybradyjr said:
So, is there a sense that suspending most submissions is working to help clear the backlog?
If so, obviously that would be great news.
not really a simple yes or no answer unfortunately. yes, cards that have dust are starting to move. however that comes at the cost of regular and express orders taking nearly 2 months just to get logged. and while some things seem to be picking up steam, more accidents during holdering seem to be occurring as well. not sure what the perfect formula is. i know they just havent found it yet and feels more like simply a trade off.
I really feel like opening some other offices throughout the US could be the best answer for clearing the backlog. Tap into graders and other talent in other areas. IMO, Until that happens it’s going to be slow going!
Don't shoot the messenger, but two very reliable sources (and big submitters ) at two locations both stated that PSA has 13 Million cards to grade. That's 13,000,000. And I believe it.
@1959 said:
Don't shoot the messenger, but two very reliable sources (and big submitters ) at two locations both stated that PSA has 13 Million cards to grade. That's 13,000,000. And I believe it.
13 mil is not an unreasonable number in my book. any reliable info on how many they send out each day? or anyway that somebody can guesstimate based off the ctd information?
@brion8 said:
15 Card Voucher submission
Mailed 9/16/20
Logged 10/15/20
Entered Grading 11/12/20
5/3/21 received notice of one card not meeting voucher submission rules due to valuation.... which I'll gladly take!
Although I'm happy about the 10, I'm disappointed about the 7 for the Jordan stickers. One of them was previously graded 8(ST). I cracked it out, cleaned the stain and re-submitted. Was hoping for a 8 without qualifiers. Bummer. I also thought the Rodman and Miller looked just like the Stockton, yet they both got 8. Go figure.
seems like a weak upcharge, card is going for 800 these days , was going about the same back in october when it was entered. seams a bit nit picky to me to upcharge that card. but I am hearing a lot more of these days on the upcharges
since they charged you the full $50, do you at least still have a grading voucher on your account?
Yeah, they said I now have a credit of one voucher that I can use on a future submission.
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I agree with you in logic and with regard to current premise; however PSA is basically going to be turning their backs on a sizable group of submitters who have significantly helped make them successful over the past several decades. Plus, they are no longer consistent nor accurate these days. $50 for any card? No thanks. It is simply not a remotely reasonable option for a 77 Topps Toby Harrah.
you won't get any rebuttal from me...I think there's a better/more profitable angle to take personally because of the blatant disregard of what built the foundation as you mentioned. Not much loyalty these days unfortunately so it's common to see the willingness to sacrifice regulars in lieu of greed for lack of desire in sugarcoating. I believe its publicly traded stock now so w that you welcome influences that won't necessarily benefit the customer base of any kind, so as long as it bumps the stock a fraction of a percent...welcome to the era of "scrap the cust service dept" because in case you haven't noticed there just aren't any anymore...and for those remaining they're trained to put you through a meat grinder for hours just to get ultimately hung up on i.e. AT&T
Thank you for an honest, well-stated reply and I am SO glad you didn't take my response as a personal attack. Very refreshing!!!!!!!
you realize they just went from being a publicly traded company to a private company, right?
yes. That was not really acknowledged nor the point. Sorry. However, it is still unethical to change the rules midstream. Profitable? short-term for sure. And, **my money **still spends where I choose to spend it. At the long, long, end of the day, it is ALWAYS a buyer's market. We will see, I suppose. Still, it feels like a royal F U from "taking my hacks." He is completely out of touch with the collector. He knows the investor well.
i was quoting tron! 😉
Sorry my man. I am on your side 99% of the time. Bobby
I had a 50/50 chance on that one lol...or as in The Anchor "50% of the time...every time"
My brother and I joke all the time that card collectors are addicts. We are addicts. Lol. PSA will run specials,,,I'm sure of it. Probably not right away because they have millions of cards basically falling out of the building. At $50 per card they are trying to thin things out a bit at the moment. If they stuck with only $50 they would be out of business. To keep the registry going they will have to run specials that are for specific years. I can't even man up at over $7-$8 for things like 72 commons that are NM-MT because in many cases they're only worth $6 or so. Same for 73, 74,75,76 and even worse for later years. PSA has lot of great challenges ahead of them. It's all about the way they conduct their business from this point forward. Someone needs to figure out the barcode and how to enter and grade the subs in some kind of orderly fashion. Hearing of bulk entered before EXPRESS is a breakdown in the system. A failure in that regard. I'm assuming ownership will look into this. What does PSA do when their local USPS can't handle the volume...????? I mean that is a completely different problem all of it's own. PSA needs an East coast office that can grade cards. One where graders and other employees can work and live in the area. Don't open a facility in Beverly Hills, Paris, Miami Beach....etc.
here, here!
and exactly. but we can erase “hearing”. seeing, rather subbing is believing. its actually been going on since mid-janurary. people are just now starting to realize it is the problem.
(not entered)
(all this lower entered, that arrived after)
They need to figure that out. I'm just going to be patient as I have about 100-200 vintage to sub; but only with reasonable prices. I can wait 10 years to sub them...who knows though. Maybe it will never happen. I do not depend on cards to pay my bills, or all of this would be a different story.
i have a huge pile that is/was ready to go myself. wouldnt even send’em in right now if they did open it back up. i dont depend on cards to pay my bills either, but i dont need them to create headaches and frustrations either. thats for sure. as you mentioned, theres a ton of things that need to be ironed out. i will say, the overall backwards regression has me stumped. i was expecting much better things.
I agree also. I really do hope it gets cleared up as I like cards as a way to relax and have fun. And yes, no one needs headaches from them. Can be very frustrating. Good luck on all of your subs.
Totally agree. 3-4 offices throughout the country in locations with a reasonable cost of living and affordable real estate (e.g., Indianapolis, Cincinnati, Charlotte, Phoenix, KC, STL, Atlanta, Pittsburgh) would seem to make a lot of sense.
should just go w detroit. theres a warehouse there w half of whats on the graded block already! 😉
https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com/abandoned-sports-cards-inside-detroit-warehouse/
A little movement this weekend on an Express sub:
Arrived 3/3
Logged 3/31
Went into grading about a week ago, then assembly this weekend, and QA1 overnight.
Another Express sub that was logged the same day is still in Research & ID, although it is an auto sub.
Same here. Finally got movement on my 1 card express. Arrived 02/24/21 logged 03/25/21 grading 4/12/21 and assembly 5/3. Mine is a 56 jackie robinson grey back. Not an obscure card or a unicorn bedazzled rainbow refractor either. You would think it would be pretty straight forward to grade it being a pretty common card and only a 1 card order. But I'm glad to finally have movement after 3 weeks of a standstill.
Jeff
Collecting:
post world war II HOF rookie
76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars
Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals)
successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
over 2 months for an express... that is unreal. I did get my 21 card economy order delivered today. 8 months and 9 days after I shipped it. I think the labels were correct and I didn't see any scratches or anything obvious on my quick-inspection. It was odd that it showed "delivered" and it requires a signature. I go out to my mailbox and there it is. USPS says it was signed for my some R. Oll. No idea who that is so I'm glad they made it to the correct mailbox.
If we haven't realized that cards moved way past the collector in the past year then we have been asleep. It is not greedy PSA, it is what the new buyers dictated and the "collectors" who jumped in to feed them. Unfortunately as long as the buyers are around who are not collectors, it is going to take quite a while to filter through the system to any normal approach.
PSA does not have a duty to the collector, I am sure they would like to do what they can which will probably be how they handle specials. The reality is if they set the price at a minimum $50 which I doubt will last long because they won't keep up , as long as the non-collector population keeps flooding them what do you expect them to do? Do I like it as someone who gets therapy from subbing 70's cards for $8 bucks a piece , no I don't but it is the reality.
And everyone who is spelling dome and gloom for not thinking of the collector is a bit out of touch. Once the non-collector money starts to slow , they will offer services to bring the collectors back and we will all flock to PSA , even the majority of guys on this board who are saying I am done(I am included in that group so I am not poking fingers at anyone in particular)
per the "check your cards" things, here's another head scratcher. this time, graciously deemed a 7 vs a 6.
i know nat is a huge anti-trim guy and w/ genamint fingerprint technology, perhaps they are setting traps to catch the trimmers? not sure what else it could be.
i quit trusting my eyes a long time ago. but. w/ this set up, i do know there is zero way i would have missed this:
just noticed how the edge wear stops at the inside bumpers. on both of them? cant be coincidence, right?
I don't know what you are getting at? are you saying it is trimmed? it looks not trimmed with a dinged corner to me?
in other news,, my 2 express orders got logged today, received 3/8 for what it is worth
no. this is a card in one of my subs that just came back. i never would have sent this card in as a bulk, let alone as a regular order. 100% unequivocally damaged in house.
what i'm getting at, is this is now a trimmers aqua-dreama. a $100 card that could easily be turned into a $5k card...prior to genamint fingerprint technology. bc that's the only thing that makes since to me. how can this much damage be done to a card w/o them saying "my bad". are they setting traps for trimmers? i don't know. i do know that there is zero way, w my set up and subbing process that this card was sent to them in this condition.
@blurryface ahh I gotcha
@blurryface - I think I am picking up what you are putting down but are you specifically referring to this part of the press-release " – by identifying the exact card in order to track provenance, resubmissions, condition changes and other attributes over time." If so, what is your specific takeaway from the edges? Do you think it happened while it was there? It was deliberately added to make that identification easier?
no. would never say done deliberately. but i am noticing a timing issue from the time popped, to the time shipped on these orders that have 6s or 7s. i'm also noticing that similar delay on cards that also get upcharged, which that delay is due to in-house imaging. perhaps when a card is damaged like this, they are doing the image/genamint fingerprint thing (which would explain a delay vs shipping w/i a day or two) to go into the database. again, this would be an extremely, and i mean extremely easy target for a trimmer both for the recent surge in popularity & risk vs reward angle.
cliff notes: i'm basically reaching & praying there's a bigger reason as to why a card that was damaged in house, wasnt disclosed and then took 5 days to ship once the sub popped other than them just saying "eff it, send it".
I was wondering the same thing. I am waiting on 50 1989 Griffeys to come back.
Gretzky,Ripken, and Sandberg collection. Still trying to complete 1975 Topps baseball set from when I was a kid.
Me being one of those! I am a very very small player and tying up $3+ Grand in grading fees is simply not sustainable...,And if I'm screwed on the outcomes! Well its been mentioned, this may be it for me and PSA! Got back in Cause I missed collecting AND I thought I could make a couple bucks in Retirement.....Now, not so much!!!
9 Subs, another 1-2 weeks ABSOLUTELY ZERO movement out of R & I, 9 Subs in R & I, One since last August!
10527397 02/17/21 04/08/21 N/A See Details 26 Value Modern (1972- 2017)
22204496 10478355 01/20/21 03/29/21 N/A See Details 22 Value Modern (1972- 2017)
22180512 10478295 01/19/21 03/18/21 N/A See Details 20 Value Vintage (1971-)
22157840 10458692 01/06/21 03/04/21 N/A See Details 20 Value Modern (1972- 2017)
22157821 10458614 01/06/21 03/04/21 N/A See Details 36 Value Vintage (1971-)
22027958 10405226 11/24/20 12/01/20 N/A See Details 22 Value Vintage (1971-)
22085052 10363151 10/21/20 01/20/21 N/A See Details 24 Monthly Special 17
22075604 10348192 10/05/20 01/13/21 N/A See Details 88 Monthly Special 1
21973288 10292632 08/13/20 10/16/20 N/A See Details 20 Monthly Special 1
YeeHaw!
Neil
3 card, regular
recvd: 3/01/21
logged: 3/04/21
popped: 5/04/21
shipped: 5/04/21
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 56003053 MINT 9 2020 Panini Donruss Optic Downtown DT40 Joe Burrow Card
2 1 56003054 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Fortnite 300 Luxe Holofoil Card
3 1 N9: NOT GRADED No Spec Info, No Grade, No Charge Card
gonna start adding the actual “ship” date. line 3 was an undertaker rookie printing plate. can never figure out psa stances on plates. some they do, some they dont. no biggie though. did not expect a 10 on the burrow downtown. luxe holo 10 is pretty big though. they are still in the dog house though. 😉
1 card super express
Shipped 4/26
Arrived 4/27
Entered ->grading 4/29
Assembly 4/30
QA1 4/30
QA2 5/3
Let the obsessive checking begin!
I’m nervous for this one. I feel like I always miss a spider wrinkle on the ‘70 tall boys.
Here’s what I have self-subbed so far:
My Express sub moved from Assembly all the way to QA2 yesterday. It's just a four card sub, but some biggies (for me, at least).
How did your Super grade go relative to expectation?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/192963159@N06/albums
Finally seeing some movement on economy sub 26 cards:
Entered 9/27
Grading 10/21
Assembly 5/4
My CC sub of 15 cards that was received on 09/17 and entered on 10/17 just went into assembly. I haven't checked in a few days so could have been any time since last Friday.
Robb
15 Card Voucher submission
Mailed 9/16/20
Logged 10/15/20
Entered Grading 11/12/20
5/3/21 received notice of one card not meeting voucher submission rules due to valuation.... which I'll gladly take!
Although I'm happy about the 10, I'm disappointed about the 7 for the Jordan stickers. One of them was previously graded 8(ST). I cracked it out, cleaned the stain and re-submitted. Was hoping for a 8 without qualifiers. Bummer. I also thought the Rodman and Miller looked just like the Stockton, yet they both got 8. Go figure.
Nice sub man, Great hit on the Stockton !
Collecting:
post world war II HOF rookie
76 topps gem mint 10 commons 9 stars
Arenado purple refractors(Rockies) Red (Cardinals)
successful deals with Keevan, Grote15, 1954, mbogoman
Take the Stockton and run. Congrats
are they not updating the CTD page? doesnt seem like anything has moved in a bit? is it just like at any job I have ever had that a change is put into motion then slowly but surely it dies and everyone just continues doing exactly what they did before?
74 card, economy
recvd: 9/3/20
logged: 9/30/20
popped: 5/4/21
shipped: ??? (a 6 in there)
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 50334577 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2019 Panini Donruss Optic 198 DE'Andre Hunter Fast Break-Purple
2 1 50334578 MINT 9 2019 Panini Donruss Optic 200 Cameron Johnson Fast Break-Blue Card
3 1 50334579 MINT 9 2019 Panini Mosaic 209 Zion Williamson Card
4 1 50334580 MINT 9 2019 Panini Mosaic 209 Zion Williamson Card
5 1 50334581 MINT 9 2019 Panini Mosaic 219 JA Morant Fast Break-Silver Card
6 1 50334582 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Mosaic Montage 10 LeBron James Mosaic Card
7 1 50334583 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 248 Zion Williamson Card
8 1 50334584 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 249 JA Morant Card
9 1 50334585 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 253 Coby White Green Prizm Card
10 1 50334586 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 249 JA Morant Red/White/Blue Prizm Card
11 1 50334587 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 249 JA Morant Red/White/Blue Prizm Card
12 1 50334588 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 282 Bol Bol Red/White/Blue Prizm Card
13 1 50334589 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 255 Rui Hachimura Red/White/Blue Prizm Card
14 1 50334590 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 267 Grant Williams Red/White/Blue Prizm
15 1 50334591 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 253 Coby White Red/White/Blue Prizm Card
16 1 50334592 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 255 Rui Hachimura Red/White/Blue Prizm Card
17 1 50334593 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 75 Luka Doncic Silver Prizm Card
18 1 50334594 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 256 Cam Reddish Silver Prizm Card
19 1 50334595 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 267 Grant Williams Silver Prizm Card
20 1 50334596 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 251 DE'Andre Hunter Silver Prizm Card
21 1 50334597 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 261 Sekou Doumbouya Silver Prizm Card
22 1 50334598 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2019 Panini Prizm 296 Terance Mann Silver Prizm Card
23 1 50334599 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Mosaic 270 RJ Barrett Fast Break-Silver Card
24 1 50334600 MINT 9 2017 Panini Prizm 117 Donovan Mitchell Card
25 1 50334601 GEM MINT 10 2018 Panini Prizm Freshman Phenoms 23 Luka Doncic Card
26 1 50334602 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm Get Hyped! 6 Luka Doncic Green Prizm Card
27 1 50334603 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Mosaic Center Stage 17 Luka Doncic Card
28 1 50334604 MINT 9 2018 Panini Status 172 Luka Doncic Card
29 1 50334605 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 248 Zion Williamson Red/White/Blue Prizm Card
30 1 50334606 MINT 9 2017 Panini Prizm 16 Jayson Tatum Card
31 1 50334607 MINT 9 2017 Panini Prizm 117 Donovan Mitchell Card
32 1 50334608 GEM MINT 10 2018 Panini Status Factions 16 Dirk Nowitzki\Harrison Barnes\Luka Doncic
33 1 50334609 MINT 9 2019 Panini Mosaic 246 Terance Mann Silver Prizm Card
34 1 50334610 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 252 Jarrett Culver Red/White/Blue Prizm
35 1 50334611 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 254 Jaxson Hayes Red/White/Blue Prizm
36 1 50334612 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 253 Coby White Red/White/Blue Prizm Card
37 1 50334613 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 256 Cam Reddish Red/White/Blue Prizm
38 1 50334614 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 286 Tremont Waters Red/White/Blue Prizm
39 1 50334615 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 272 Jordan Poole Red/White/Blue Prizm
40 1 50334616 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 257 Cameron Johnson Red/White/Blue Prizm
41 1 50334617 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 258 PJ Washington Jr. Red/White/Blue Prizm
42 1 50334618 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 273 Keldon Johnson Red/White/Blue Prizm
43 1 50334619 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 261 Sekou Doumbouya Red/White/Blue Prizm
44 1 50334620 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 271 Mfiondu Kabengele Red/White/Blue Prizm
45 1 50334621 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 2019 Panini Prizm 259 Tyler Herro Red/White/Blue Prizm
46 1 50334622 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 269 Nassir Little Red/White/Blue Prizm Card
47 1 50334623 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 296 Terance Mann Red/White/Blue Prizm
48 1 50334624 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 250 RJ Barrett Red/White/Blue Prizm Card
49 1 50334625 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 276 Carsen Edwards Red/White/Blue Prizm Card
50 1 50334626 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 276 Carsen Edwards Red/White/Blue Prizm Card
51 1 50334627 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 290 Matisse Thybulle Red/White/Blue Prizm Card
52 1 50334628 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 290 Matisse Thybulle Red/White/Blue Prizm Card
53 1 50334629 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Select 56 Bol Bol Card
54 1 50334630 MINT 9 2019 Panini Donruss Optic 186 Keldon Johnson Holo Card
55 1 50334631 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Mosaic 231 Rui Hachimura Green Mosaic Card
56 1 50334632 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 274 Kevin Porter Jr. Green Prizm Card
57 1 50334633 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 288 Darius Garland Green Prizm Card
58 1 50334634 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 271 Mfiondu Kabengele Green Prizm Card
59 1 50334635 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 292 Nic Claxton Green Prizm Card
60 1 50334636 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 284 Ignas Brazdeikis Red/White/Blue Prizm
61 1 50334637 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 251 DE'Andre Hunter Red/White/Blue Prizm Card
62 1 50334638 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 256 Cam Reddish Red/White/Blue Prizm
63 1 50334639 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 291 Jordan Bone Ruby Wave Card
64 1 50334640 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 293 Jaylen Hands Ruby Wave Card
65 1 50334641 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 270 Dylan Windler Ruby Wave Card
66 1 50334642 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 297 Jalen McDaniels Ruby Wave Card
67 1 50334643 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Chronicles 254 Luka Doncic Red Card
68 1 50334644 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2003 Topps Rookie Matrix Dwyane Wade\LeBron James\Carmelo Anthony
69 1 50334645 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 75 Luka Doncic Card
70 1 50334646 MINT 9 2019 Panini Prizm 75 Luka Doncic Card
71 1 50334647 GEM MINT 10 2019 Panini Prizm 75 Luka Doncic Card
72 1 50334648 GEM MINT 10 2018 Panini Prizm Freshman Phenoms 21 Trae Young Card
73 1 50334649 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2018 Panini Prizm Freshman Phenoms 21 Trae Young
74 1 50334650 MINT 9 2018 Panini Prizm Emergent 5 Trae Young Card
Slight damage to the surface while cleaning the stain? The stain hid a flaw?
seems like a weak upcharge, card is going for 800 these days , was going about the same back in october when it was entered. seams a bit nit picky to me to upcharge that card. but I am hearing a lot more of these days on the upcharges
since they charged you the full $50, do you at least still have a grading voucher on your account?
So, is there a sense that suspending most submissions is working to help clear the backlog?
If so, obviously that would be great news.
IMO not really. The CTD tracker, while imperfect, isn't indicating net days ahead progress. Even if you account for the idea that subs 2 to 4 weeks ahead of the CTD date are popping and/or completing...well, for everything below regular it means w/o an increase in pace, cards that got in before the shutoff have a good chance of not being seen again until the turning of the year.
Had good movement today, my 2 express orders logged yesterday went into grading today and 3 of my economy orders entered 10/21 all went into assembly today. I have 1 more economy a 1 card order I am hoping goes into assembly too.
not really a simple yes or no answer unfortunately. yes, cards that have dust are starting to move. however that comes at the cost of regular and express orders taking nearly 2 months just to get logged. and while some things seem to be picking up steam, more accidents during holdering seem to be occurring as well. not sure what the perfect formula is. i know they just havent found it yet and feels more like simply a trade off.
I really feel like opening some other offices throughout the US could be the best answer for clearing the backlog. Tap into graders and other talent in other areas. IMO, Until that happens it’s going to be slow going!
Don't shoot the messenger, but two very reliable sources (and big submitters ) at two locations both stated that PSA has 13 Million cards to grade. That's 13,000,000. And I believe it.
13 mil is not an unreasonable number in my book. any reliable info on how many they send out each day? or anyway that somebody can guesstimate based off the ctd information?
Yeah, they said I now have a credit of one voucher that I can use on a future submission.